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WOTLK - DDAY style battleground Info
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Some new screens and info about the new battleground in wotlk. What we know is that the horde/alliance are split into attacking and defending forces. There are 4 tiers to the map (ie capture T1 before you can move onto T2).
Siege weapons will be used throughout the battleground. Offensive weapons will be used by the attacking force to break through the defenses around each tier of the map, while the defending side will have their own weapons available. Each team progresses via controlling capture points on each tier. Some capture points allow access to different types of siege weaponry.
Still some missing textures and no clue as the player numbers etc.
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Looks dull.
Always change your signature.
Even though pvp is not what I enjoy most about wow, this promises to be fun!
Looking forward to wotlk.
Looks like something a computer club could whip up in a long night in OpenGL.... Not impressed.
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That looks amazing, unlike the 2 flamers before me i see the feel of wotlk, it's not supposed to be a happy battlefield, did you want fireworks and massive sword falling on everyone? It looks like it totally fits the warcraft 3 story, i cant wait for it.
WoTLK truely promices to revive this game if only for as long as BC did, i'm just suprised only one class was introduced.
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IVE PLAYED WOW AND LIKED IT SO IM A FANBOI PLZ FLAME MY THREADS CUZ I MIGHT MENTION WOW
It's a grind point for gear... doesn't matter to the world, changes nothing and in the end, will be a trivial affair. Just another grind hidden by window dressing, once you've gotten your gear... whose gonna go back?
Yeah.
Always change your signature.
Cheer up fella.
Thsi looks really cool, I'm just curious and want more info on the siege weps
Lol, they are soooo copied WAR...
Lol, they are soooo copied WAR...
Hard to copy something that hasnt been released.. gotta love people who use this line
Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there,
80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters.
Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior,
and he will bring the others home.
-Heraclitus 500BC
They are hardly copying WAR. If that was the case it would be something more meaningfull than just for loot/gear.
For thoes that still want to play WoW and have fun with it though, it looks good. Its there for more gear/item grind and thats fine, thats what WoW is about and some people enjoy that even if its not my cup of tea. So yea, for the WoW fans looks like you guys are getting some decent new content.
1 more bg to play 353453405983450934850948509 times for gear?
yay........
But actually they did it - they copied Mythic's idea. Mythic announced their tier system like 2 years ago. We didn't hear about such system from Blizz until now. I don't tell that copying good ideas is bad, if it works, more power for Blizz. But c'mon, they at least could change names or count of tiers. This shows also, they Blizzard thinks, that WAR ideas are good, if they are trying to copy them (but I am afraid if it would work in WoW, we will see).
This kind of warfare is the sort of stuff you'd expect to see in the Warcraft universe. I don't care who announced it two years ago or so, the only important thing is that Blizzard are making it, so it's going to be 5 times more polished than anything WAR will come up with.
Remember WAR is still an unproven piece of marketware. Vanguard beta players claimed that game would be the second coming of Jesus, and look how that went...
All bets are on Blizzard for having the best seige warefare, unless you're the kind to bet on the outsider.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Lol, they are soooo copied WAR...
Hard to copy something that hasnt been released.. gotta love people who use this line
But actually they did it - they copied Mythic's idea. Mythic announced their tier system like 2 years ago. We didn't hear about such system from Blizz until now. I don't tell that copying good ideas is bad, if it works, more power for Blizz. But c'mon, they at least could change names or count of tiers. This shows also, they Blizzard thinks, that WAR ideas are good, if they are trying to copy them (but I am afraid if it would work in WoW, we will see).
LOL
HOW can you copy something from a game that isn't even published yet ????
By the sheer yelling of that guy named Paul ???
Blizz has manned tanks (not in War), air fights (not in War), anti air (not in War) and about ALL that gear was already PRESENT more than 4 years ago in the models of WOW at launch:
the airplanes taking off in ironforge, the siege engines and catapults were already in WARCRAFT 3 !!!!
So tell me: if 2 games publish at the same time, with ONE system having already all these elements in it YEARS ago, how could WOW have copied the (warcraft 3) siege engines ....
Blizzard works always YEARS in advance (it is NOT FUNCON you know). 8 years ago Death Knights were launched, 8 years ago siege engines could be played ... now they are in Wow.
Despite the yelling of "Led Zeppelin" Paul.
LOL
1 - 0 and no use to score because the referee just finished the match !
)
Lol, they are soooo copied WAR...
Hard to copy something that hasnt been released.. gotta love people who use this line
But actually they did it - they copied Mythic's idea. Mythic announced their tier system like 2 years ago. We didn't hear about such system from Blizz until now. I don't tell that copying good ideas is bad, if it works, more power for Blizz. But c'mon, they at least could change names or count of tiers. This shows also, they Blizzard thinks, that WAR ideas are good, if they are trying to copy them (but I am afraid if it would work in WoW, we will see).
LOL
HOW can you copy something from a game that isn't even published yet ????
By the sheer yelling of that guy named Paul ???
Blizz has manned tanks (not in War), air fights (not in War), anti air (not in War) and about ALL that gear was already PRESENT more than 4 years ago in the models of WOW at launch:
the airplanes taking off in ironforge, the siege engines and catapults were already in WARCRAFT 3 !!!!
So tell me: if 2 games publish at the same time, with ONE system having already all these elements in it YEARS ago, how could WOW have copied the (warcraft 3) siege engines ....
Blizzard works always YEARS in advance (it is NOT FUNCON you know). 8 years ago Death Knights were launched, 8 years ago siege engines could be played ... now they are in Wow.
Despite the yelling of "Led Zeppelin" Paul.
LOL
1 - 0 and no use to score because the referee just finished the match !
)
How do you copy something from a game not published yet?
Same way you copy scientific ideas from papers not published yet.... yes that's a crime.
Same way you copy music and lyrics not published yet from someone else's unpublished score.
The fact that a game copies from something else is fine.
Blatently denying that fact is pretty fanboish.
Lol, they are soooo copied WAR...
Hard to copy something that hasnt been released.. gotta love people who use this line
But actually they did it - they copied Mythic's idea. Mythic announced their tier system like 2 years ago. We didn't hear about such system from Blizz until now. I don't tell that copying good ideas is bad, if it works, more power for Blizz. But c'mon, they at least could change names or count of tiers. This shows also, they Blizzard thinks, that WAR ideas are good, if they are trying to copy them (but I am afraid if it would work in WoW, we will see).
LOL
HOW can you copy something from a game that isn't even published yet ????
By the sheer yelling of that guy named Paul ???
Blizz has manned tanks (not in War), air fights (not in War), anti air (not in War) and about ALL that gear was already PRESENT more than 4 years ago in the models of WOW at launch:
the airplanes taking off in ironforge, the siege engines and catapults were already in WARCRAFT 3 !!!!
So tell me: if 2 games publish at the same time, with ONE system having already all these elements in it YEARS ago, how could WOW have copied the (warcraft 3) siege engines ....
Blizzard works always YEARS in advance (it is NOT FUNCON you know). 8 years ago Death Knights were launched, 8 years ago siege engines could be played ... now they are in Wow.
Despite the yelling of "Led Zeppelin" Paul.
LOL
1 - 0 and no use to score because the referee just finished the match !
CAN YOU READ? If you can, reread my post and don't make idiot of yourself. Mythic announced their RvR idea like 2 years ago: 2 sides, 4 tiers. And know Blizzard annoucing they use exactly the same system in their expansion. It's quite obvious they copied idea. And, quite funny, Blizzard dont' even try to hide this, they even didn't change names (they have tiers like Mythic) and their number (4 tirs as well). So no, they didn't copied game, just Mythic's idea how to organise pvp fight.
Yowzas...
First of all, Warcraft was suppose to be Warhammer, so there is a pretty good argument that WoW sort of copied WAR.
But the argument that they copied WAR on parts of the pvp system is not really there. The system, if anything, is a bit more like how some FPS'es did it. These modes in both MMOs are a bit new for MMOs but not entirely innovative.
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Lol, they are soooo copied WAR...
Hard to copy something that hasnt been released.. gotta love people who use this line
But actually they did it - they copied Mythic's idea. Mythic announced their tier system like 2 years ago. We didn't hear about such system from Blizz until now. I don't tell that copying good ideas is bad, if it works, more power for Blizz. But c'mon, they at least could change names or count of tiers. This shows also, they Blizzard thinks, that WAR ideas are good, if they are trying to copy them (but I am afraid if it would work in WoW, we will see).
LOL
HOW can you copy something from a game that isn't even published yet ????
By the sheer yelling of that guy named Paul ???
Blizz has manned tanks (not in War), air fights (not in War), anti air (not in War) and about ALL that gear was already PRESENT more than 4 years ago in the models of WOW at launch:
the airplanes taking off in ironforge, the siege engines and catapults were already in WARCRAFT 3 !!!!
So tell me: if 2 games publish at the same time, with ONE system having already all these elements in it YEARS ago, how could WOW have copied the (warcraft 3) siege engines ....
Blizzard works always YEARS in advance (it is NOT FUNCON you know). 8 years ago Death Knights were launched, 8 years ago siege engines could be played ... now they are in Wow.
Despite the yelling of "Led Zeppelin" Paul.
LOL
1 - 0 and no use to score because the referee just finished the match !
CAN YOU READ? If you can, reread my post and don't make idiot of yourself. Mythic announced their RvR idea like 2 years ago: 2 sides, 4 tiers. And know Blizzard annoucing they use exactly the same system in their expansion. It's quite obvious they copied idea. And, quite funny, Blizzard dont' even try to hide this, they even didn't change names (they have tiers like Mythic) and their number (4 tirs as well). So no, they didn't copied game, just Mythic's idea how to organise pvp fight.
WoW did battlegrounds well before WAR.. but lets not go there.
The tier system is a well known PvP mechanic (Mythic did not invent this), there were tier systems in Unreal torney (an game made 8 years ago). Blizzard have done the CTF (WSG), Domination (Alteric), CTF/Domination (ES), Assasination (AV) .. the next logical step to offer a new game play mechanic is a tiered map.
I dont know why your so upset.. WAR offers this teired system over the entire game (system that will break down when 95% of the players are max cap) , WoW players get this in 1 instanced battle ground.
I don't argue about that, I just pointed tiered system with 4 tiers and 2 sides. That's I am a bit pissed about Vik's post - I wrote nothing about tanks, aircrafts or catapults, only about 2 sides/4 tiers - and he answered with some propaganda fanboi shit, which has nothing to do with my point.
I don't argue about that, I just pointed tiered system with 4 tiers and 2 sides. That's I am a bit pissed about Vik's post - I wrote nothing about tanks, aircrafts or catapults, only about 2 sides/4 tiers - and he answered with some propaganda fanboi shit, which has nothing to do with my point.
well... aehm. these are 4 lines of defenses, you know? like WALLS. and a GATE. WAR's are REGIONS, you know? with KEEPS and a full area?. the only thing I see in common is the number 4, so I guess WAR has the copyright on that number right? they have 4 classes/race after all.... oh... not anymore, wait a second there....
Really, I am looking forward to WAR, I love WoW but this is going a tad overboard.... YES they have 4 (FOUR) lines of defense! I do not see how THAT count for "copying" WAR! Get something a bit more original, will ya?
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
I don't argue about that, I just pointed tiered system with 4 tiers and 2 sides. That's I am a bit pissed about Vik's post - I wrote nothing about tanks, aircrafts or catapults, only about 2 sides/4 tiers - and he answered with some propaganda fanboi shit, which has nothing to do with my point.
well... aehm. these are 4 lines of defenses, you know? like WALLS. and a GATE. WAR's are REGIONS, you know? with KEEPS and a full area?. the only thing I see in common is the number 4, so I guess WAR has the copyright on that number right? they have 4 classes/race after all.... oh... not anymore, wait a second there....
Really, I am looking forward to WAR, I love WoW but this is going a tad overboard.... YES they have 4 (FOUR) lines of defense! I do not see how THAT count for "copying" WAR! Get something a bit more original, will ya?
Ok, I was wrong, but Vick's answer was stupid anyway.
the funny part is, that even if they did get the inspiration for this BG from WAR, it will probably be more polished and well made than the version WAR has
yes im cynical about new games...when was the last time a good one came out?!
Looks sweet! I've always loved defending in Alterec Valley. But half the time the group doesn't see defending as being important and moans and complains that a small group defends galv.
Now they won't be able to moan and complain that we are playing Defense! Woo!
"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius."
-Oscar Wilde
That's a pretty stupid thing to say considering WAR beta opens in a week or so, just wait and see. I don't even see why there's so much hate between the two games.
This is like EQ and DAoC all over again, different focus, different goals, different target audience. As for the copying argument, all gaming companies, not just MMOs do it. Look at FPS games, details change but the game itself remains very similar. Blizzard wasn't exactly innovative when they made WoW either, they took the best parts that were done before, added a few things and alot of polish and produced a great game. The specifically hired old EQ hardcore raiders and because of it, the endgame was in essence an expansion on EQ's raiding game, but more accessible to players.
I hope both games do well, the industry needs a few good games in competition to raise standards instead of more half finished games.
> 1 < new battle gorund? yay.... we need an overhaul on ATLEAST 5. How many new instances do we keep getting? We got 9 non-raid instances from BC and only 1New BG that wasnt original at all.
And now we get ONLY 1 NEW BG. And whats it about??? TURTLING!!!!! F*CK YES!
"but let's go kill some birds. I'm psyched."
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my prediction of this BG is that it will grant more honor than AV in relatively the same amount of time it takes to win a EotS or AB (which just makes in an easier grind, cause thats all we need >.> )