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  • PROdotesPROdotes Member Posts: 197

    If they do limit the OB to only certain zones, add a level cap and1 week then even IF the NDA is down i'll be concerned...

    why? because IIRC someone from the mythic team said to be concerned about an open beta that is shorter then 2-3 weeks and limits their content... so IF they do it then by THEIR definition something is wrong...

    So now i guess we have to wait for the next newsletter to see who's lying and if i'll cancel my CE preorder and go for a normal version of the game 1-2 months after release once i have time to read the forums...

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  • kegtapkegtap Member Posts: 261

    This is all not a surprise it has been talked about before

    "we are tentatively considering having everyone who pre-orders the game invited to this phase of beta."

    • Open beta will eventually encompass all willing players — we simply don’t know how many they’re going to add to the beta before release.
    • Open beta will be more of a “stress test” in terms of numbers of players flooding into the servers, and less of a focused area test.
    • There might be an option to artificially level a character to 40 to stress test city sieges.
    • The open beta will most likely not include all areas and all features of the game, according to the devs — some parts will be locked up from players.

    waaagh.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/open-beta-facts-and-speculation/

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  • GurrokGurrok Member Posts: 14

    I hope we still have the bonus in-game content — charactere heads exclusive to CE

  • bmcinvaillebmcinvaille Member Posts: 209

    And think this way the NDA will be lifted soon and the beta testers who are allowed to go through everything can alleviate concerns.

    I figure one main thing they may do as stated above is let everyone pre level to 40 and test out sieges and tier 4 if needed.

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  • bmcinvaillebmcinvaille Member Posts: 209
    Originally posted by Gurrok


    I hope we still have the bonus in-game content — charactere heads exclusive to CE

     

    MJ posted on this already. OB and Head-start will be for everyone. The other stuff listed for CE only is still CE only including the heads and such. Also it looks like head start for CE owners will be longer and maybe even OB.

    Also he says there is still one unnnounces item/perk for CE owners that will be announced soon.

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  • GurrokGurrok Member Posts: 14

    Ok thx didnt take the time to read all this thread, atleast CE owner we still have something exclusive

  • Jaga-TAOJaga-TAO Member Posts: 176


    Originally posted by bmcinvaille
    MJ posted on this already. OB and Head-start will be for everyone. The other stuff listed for CE only is still CE only including the heads and such. Also it looks like head start for CE owners will be longer and maybe even OB.
    Also he says there is still one unnnounces item/perk for CE owners that will be announced soon.

    You gotta be frikkin kidding me!

    What the hell did I pony up $80 for then, a miniature and some lore-oriented Warhammer stuff that I don't give a damn about?

    Seriously, if this actually happens you can consider me on the phone to Mythic daily. If you SELL IT as a CE BONUS, you CAN'T give it out later to people who DIDN'T PAY FOR IT.

    Jesus - what kind of business team do they have working over there?? A parrot and a deaf monkey?

    I guess the years I spent playing DAoC and believing Mythic was a "good" online gaming company was utter Bull then, can't I?

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by banthis

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by banthis


    I'm majorly pissed off if this is the case they've been sayign since april only 60k of those damn codes were ever made now Gamestop is totally saying something different.

     

    It is EA what did you expect?

    EA may do some crap things internally and ruined some games in the past but they have atleast not in my memory ever pulled a Bait and Switch.  This would be a new and rather low blow all things considered.

     

     

    EA may have not but Mythic has no problems doing stuff like this. If you ever played DAOC you'd know how bad Mythic is  I'm still looking forward to Warhammer but get use to it, Mythic will do this kind of crap a lot & it will be worse if they are still like they were with DAOC.

     

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  • AraikisAraikis Member Posts: 74
    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


     

    Originally posted by bmcinvaille

    MJ posted on this already. OB and Head-start will be for everyone. The other stuff listed for CE only is still CE only including the heads and such. Also it looks like head start for CE owners will be longer and maybe even OB.

    Also he says there is still one unnnounces item/perk for CE owners that will be announced soon.

    You gotta be frikkin kidding me!



    What the hell did I pony up $80 for then, a miniature and some lore-oriented Warhammer stuff that I don't give a damn about?



    Seriously, if this actually happens you can consider me on the phone to Mythic daily. If you SELL IT as a CE BONUS, you CAN'T give it out later to people who DIDN'T PAY FOR IT.



    Jesus - what kind of business team do they have working over there?? A parrot and a deaf monkey?



    I guess the years I spent playing DAoC and believing Mythic was a "good" online gaming company was utter Bull then, can't I?

     

     

    1. Why did you buy the CE if you "don't give a damn" about all the lore-related goodies? It could have gone to someone who wanted it for that, which is the intended market.

    2. OB and Head Start really have no monetary value. So you're right, the NE pre-order people didn't pay for it. But they shouldn't have to either.

    3. If you no longer care for Mythic, don't buy the game. It means we won't have to deal with pricks like you in-game. I'm sure Mythic won't miss that one $15 a month too badly. Or, if you still want to play, then cancel your pre-order of the CE, and put one on the NE. Then you get your oh-so-precious thirty or forty bucks or whatever back, and still get your more-important-than-life OB and head start access.

     

    You people are seriously acting like little kids, jesus christ. And I suppose I should end this with "flame on", because god knows I'm gonna take heat for at least attempting to poke a hole in your little reality bubble.

  • Tuck2000Tuck2000 Member Posts: 361
    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


     

    Originally posted by bmcinvaille

    MJ posted on this already. OB and Head-start will be for everyone. The other stuff listed for CE only is still CE only including the heads and such. Also it looks like head start for CE owners will be longer and maybe even OB.

    Also he says there is still one unnnounces item/perk for CE owners that will be announced soon.

    You gotta be frikkin kidding me!



    What the hell did I pony up $80 for then, a miniature and some lore-oriented Warhammer stuff that I don't give a damn about?



    Seriously, if this actually happens you can consider me on the phone to Mythic daily. If you SELL IT as a CE BONUS, you CAN'T give it out later to people who DIDN'T PAY FOR IT.



    Jesus - what kind of business team do they have working over there?? A parrot and a deaf monkey?



    I guess the years I spent playing DAoC and believing Mythic was a "good" online gaming company was utter Bull then, can't I?

     

     



     

    To be clear they never said they would not invite other players into open beta or not let  Pre-pay standard buyers into either OB or HS if these are the only aspects you care about then cancel CE and buy a standard copy, You save money and you get what you want. I am spending my 80 bucks because I "Collect" it's that simple. And you are not just spending it on these two points the figure alone in the box is worth aobut $20 bucks and the artwork another $25 so the software with codes is about $35.00

  • GruntiesGrunties Member Posts: 859
    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


     


    You gotta be frikkin kidding me!



    What the hell did I pony up $80 for then, a miniature and some lore-oriented Warhammer stuff that I don't give a damn about?



    Seriously, if this actually happens you can consider me on the phone to Mythic daily. If you SELL IT as a CE BONUS, you CAN'T give it out later to people who DIDN'T PAY FOR IT.



    Jesus - what kind of business team do they have working over there?? A parrot and a deaf monkey?



    I guess the years I spent playing DAoC and believing Mythic was a "good" online gaming company was utter Bull then, can't I?
     
     



     

    If they limited open beta to only people that payed for CE, then wouldn't that make them a bad greedy company that is only having an open beta to scam people out of more money? That is how you would define a 'good' online gaming company, forcing everyone to pay for beta?

    You really sound like a spoiled kid, upset that other people will get to play with 'your toy'. Your money will probably get you in a little sooner but its not giving you permanant exclusive access over everyone else. To think that it would is really your mistake. On another note, paying for beta access is really stupid.... your character will be deleted soon after, so whats the point? Should have bought the CE for the other stuff, or not at all.

    PS. I'm already in beta so it doesn't matter to me what they do with the CE or Open beta =P

     

     

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  • AraikisAraikis Member Posts: 74
    Originally posted by Tuck2000

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


     



     

     



     

    To be clear they never said they would not invite other players into open beta or not let  Pre-pay standard buyers into either OB or HS if these are the only aspects you care about then cancel CE and buy a standard copy, You save money and you get what you want. I am spending my 80 bucks because I "Collect" it's that simple. And you are not just spending it on these two points the figure alone in the box is worth aobut $20 bucks and the artwork another $25 so the software with codes is about $35.00

    Actually the art book is hard cover, so it's probably a 35-40 dollar value. Then the graphic novel is probably worth 20-25 dollars separately. And like you said the figure's probably worth about 20. So, for collectors, it's a superb value. Glad to see someone besides me who appreciates the CE for what it actually is

  • Jaga-TAOJaga-TAO Member Posts: 176

    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.

    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

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  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

  • TM_RankerTM_Ranker Member Posts: 9

    Oh noes, Mythic is truly a horrible game company now.  I can't stand WAR anymore.

     

    Get a f'ing grip people. CANCEL YOUR PRE-ORDER AND ORDER THE REGULAR VERSION THEN.  THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WANTING TO BUY YOUR CE PRE-ORDER FROM YOU.

     

     

  • AraikisAraikis Member Posts: 74
    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

    We're not arguing that thousands paid because they only care about the collector stuff. We're stating that those items are what the CE was intended to provide, and if you bought it only for the purpose of getting the jump on everyone else you're pretty foolish. And that's why you all have the option of canceling your CE pre-order and pre-ordering the SE. So just quit complaining. It's not like you're stuck with it.

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by Araikis

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

    We're not arguing that thousands paid because they only care about the collector stuff. We're stating that those items are what the CE was intended to provide, and if you bought it only for the purpose of getting the jump on everyone else you're pretty foolish. And that's why you all have the option of canceling your CE pre-order and pre-ordering the SE. So just quit complaining. It's not like you're stuck with it.

     

    I looked through the various links provided and I am leaning towards taking back what I said earlier.  It does look like a classic bait and switch due to a lot of misdirection with the wording which is quite shocking.

    As for canceling the CE that may not be so simple as you proclaim it to be for some people and it may be a timely process.

    I would venture to say that many people do not even know about this recent news.  In short expect a lot of angry gamers in the coming days.

    Just my two cents.

  • CursedseiCursedsei Member Posts: 1,012
    Originally posted by Araikis

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

    We're not arguing that thousands paid because they only care about the collector stuff. We're stating that those items are what the CE was intended to provide, and if you bought it only for the purpose of getting the jump on everyone else you're pretty foolish. And that's why you all have the option of canceling your CE pre-order and pre-ordering the SE. So just quit complaining. It's not like you're stuck with it.

     

    seriously lol

    Cancel your damn CE pre-order, that way people who actually like WAR can get it, not the people who saw the CE as a ticket for a trial of the game. Hell, I'd love to have what the CE is giving away, not just the beta crap, i could care less, but hell, I've been a fan of Warhammer, never had a chance to play the table-top version, but i had friends who i could watch play, and read all the stuff about it.

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by Cursedsei

    Originally posted by Araikis

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

    We're not arguing that thousands paid because they only care about the collector stuff. We're stating that those items are what the CE was intended to provide, and if you bought it only for the purpose of getting the jump on everyone else you're pretty foolish. And that's why you all have the option of canceling your CE pre-order and pre-ordering the SE. So just quit complaining. It's not like you're stuck with it.

     

    seriously lol

    Cancel your damn CE pre-order, that way people who actually like WAR can get it, not the people who saw the CE as a ticket for a trial of the game. Hell, I'd love to have what the CE is giving away, not just the beta crap, i could care less, but hell, I've been a fan of Warhammer, never had a chance to play the table-top version, but i had friends who i could watch play, and read all the stuff about it.

     

    I hope you do realize this is mmorpg.com right?

  • CursedseiCursedsei Member Posts: 1,012
    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Cursedsei

    Originally posted by Araikis

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

    We're not arguing that thousands paid because they only care about the collector stuff. We're stating that those items are what the CE was intended to provide, and if you bought it only for the purpose of getting the jump on everyone else you're pretty foolish. And that's why you all have the option of canceling your CE pre-order and pre-ordering the SE. So just quit complaining. It's not like you're stuck with it.

     

    seriously lol

    Cancel your damn CE pre-order, that way people who actually like WAR can get it, not the people who saw the CE as a ticket for a trial of the game. Hell, I'd love to have what the CE is giving away, not just the beta crap, i could care less, but hell, I've been a fan of Warhammer, never had a chance to play the table-top version, but i had friends who i could watch play, and read all the stuff about it.

     

    I hope you do realize this is mmorpg.com right?

     

    yes i do lol, it dont hurt to have a dilusional moment that the human race is an intelligent and sane race though here and now lol

  • xenogiasxenogias Member Posts: 1,926
    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.



     

    @TAO- Its kind of funny. Your acting like the bully stole your lunch money and you cant get it back. The diffrence here is, you CAN get it back. Cancel the CE and get the standard if all you wanted was the OB/HS. By you keeping your CE (which I would assume you are or you wouldnt have made the comment that your willing to sell your tangible goodies) you either want the other bonus IG items and shouldnt be complaining (thoes are CE only) or your not smart enough to cancel your CE and get standard (or none at all if your that pissed). Either way your ranting and raving means nothing if you dont speak with your money, its that simple.

    @hoplites. How are we going to be in for a suprise? The standard edition is NOT going to get the graphic novel, art book, or mini. The mini will NOT be reissued by GW. The SE will also not get all of the IG goodies the CE is getting. So please, explain to me how we are in for a suprise?

    @everyone else. Stop acting like 5yr olds. Boohoo you spent more money for a OB/HS that you are MORE THAN CAPABLE of canceling and getting a standard edition for less money and still getting the OB/HS. Stop saying you are getting screwed and get your money back. Its funny how so many people will bitch and moan and say they are getting screwed then not speak with there money.

    The only thing I am going to blame Mythic for is not understanding how ignorant some people are. Some people need there hand held and every little detail explained to them before they understand. They cant think for themself anymore.

    Now I will say this. If Mythic pulls the bullshit Funcom did by offering the OB through the CE or pre-order standard and THEN telling people they have to pay yet more money to Fileplanet to get in then people will be justified in there complaining. However if the OB is given through CE, SE pre-order OR Fileplanet then so be it.

    Edit: I just looked again and unless I'm missing something GS took down all dates except for the ship date. Might mean something, might not.

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by Cursedsei

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Cursedsei

    Originally posted by Araikis

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.

    We're not arguing that thousands paid because they only care about the collector stuff. We're stating that those items are what the CE was intended to provide, and if you bought it only for the purpose of getting the jump on everyone else you're pretty foolish. And that's why you all have the option of canceling your CE pre-order and pre-ordering the SE. So just quit complaining. It's not like you're stuck with it.

     

    seriously lol

    Cancel your damn CE pre-order, that way people who actually like WAR can get it, not the people who saw the CE as a ticket for a trial of the game. Hell, I'd love to have what the CE is giving away, not just the beta crap, i could care less, but hell, I've been a fan of Warhammer, never had a chance to play the table-top version, but i had friends who i could watch play, and read all the stuff about it.

     

    I hope you do realize this is mmorpg.com right?

     

    yes i do lol, it dont hurt to have a dilusional moment that the human race is an intelligent and sane race though here and now lol

     

    I never pre ordered the CE.

    Maybe you shouldn't jump to a lot of conclusions in the first place?

    For those that did I feel for their frustration.

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by xenogias

    Originally posted by Hoplites

    Originally posted by Jaga-TAO


    Feel free to PM me if you want to buy my Book/artwork/miniature. To ME they mean absolutely nothing at all, and have zero value. Zip. Zilch. Nada.



    I'm a gamer who is interested in the gaming experience, not a novel or some art, or a pretty paperweight. To me, getting a better gaming experience was what the OB/Headstart was all about. That is what I (and thousands of other people) paid more for.



    Don't believe it? Head over to WHA forums and see for yourself. The place is nearly aflame from the negative feedback.

     

    I don't disagree.

    For those arguing thousands paid because they only care about the book/artwork/miniature they are in for a suprise.



     

     

    @hoplites. How are we going to be in for a suprise? The standard edition is NOT going to get the graphic novel, art book, or mini. The mini will NOT be reissued by GW. The SE will also not get all of the IG goodies the CE is getting. So please, explain to me how we are in for a suprise?

     

    Let me play a violin for those that care about the graphic novel, art book, or mini.

    This is MMORPG.com and guess what?  We are talking about the game here and this is what everyone is interested in.

     

     

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