Legalize,then have a public building to get high at with 2 doors,1 door leads to a room where you get your fix,the second door leads to a room where you can get help.
Originally posted by Enigma Originally posted by Mylon Sorry, but pot and X are not crimes.
In America, selling it is illegal. She was selling it. She was caught. She got caught twice. No amount of antique woodstock tickets would have helped her.
For a time, selling alcohol was illegal. It encouraged tons of crime, created large criminal organizations, and there were people distilling it in lead radiators leading to poisonous product.
Just because making alcohol was a crime doesn't mean it was right.
It's easy to point at the law and say it's the law. It makes the world simple, white and black. But the difference between right and wrong is much different. The law and morality do not always agree.
There were no lawyers present in the negotiations.
SHE WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME EXCEPT HER FIRST OFFENSE OF POSSESION.
Pot is not a gateway drug, I have tried cocaine, ecstacy, alcohol, nicotine, pharmies, hallucinegens and pot and the only one I truly enjoy or have tried more than once or twice is pot and alcohol.
Pot is the only drug that has left me feeling still in control. The others are like a train you can't get off of. And all the rest have been scientifically proven to kill you.
Pot has never killed anyone from using.
Furthermore I have a close relative who has smoked pot for 35 years but never smoked cigarettes and his lungs are totally healthy. The only health problems are with his liver from drinking alcohol his whole life.
With all these drugs there are people who are habitual users (the lsd ones are the wierdest) and it kind of creates a "culture" for the drug. An example: $1 bottle happy hour at the bar closest to a police station or a bunch of hemp wearing hippies tripping at a phish concert, the housewife addicted to perkisets and valium, or a bunch of stock brokers doing cocaine at the health club after the markets close, or a bunch of club-heads dancing to disco lights and rolling on ecstacy, or the guys selling and smoking crack on the corner killing over street turf. Or me sitting here ranting about drugs in society on a friday night smoking some pot and waiting for Warhammer Online Beta servers to come back up ;-).
She was not someone who intereacted with the guys cutting up their stash with baking soda and selling it as crack. This is a VERY different type of drug dealer. Within all of these cultires is someone, a friend, who provides these drugs to their friends. The police SHOULD KNOW THIS.
The ONLY excuse the Tallhassee Police department could make is that no one in the entire department has had ANY experimentation with ANY drugs and completely doesn't understand the different sub-cultures that exist between these drugs and their typical users. Which we all know is bullshit because all of these groups have been represented in some way on TV or in film.
FURHTERMORE anyone with no experience with the drug culture or the people associated with them has pretty much a bullshit opinion. I mean you know some of the posters in this thread have NEVER TRIED POT OR ANY ILLIEGAL DRUG lol sorry but you guys need to loosen up it's the 90's! ... I mean... 10's....?
Either way you can't argue for the police on this one-- When you do you sound like a facist.
I'm glad I made this post. There were no lawyers present in the negotiations.
If you investigate this story more the reason why no lawyers was present is because the mother and the daughter made the decision to have NO lawyer present or her own father; her own father had no idea because the daughter is 18 and SHE made the choice to only bring her mother into it. It was kept hush hush from other members of the family. To them, it was bad to have their daughter caught dealing drugs and the less family members who knew the better
If you report a persuasive argument you have to, at least, tell the readers why no lawyers was present in the negotiations.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Originally posted by Draq The goverment can use YOUR cell phone, ANY cell phone, to listen in on everything nearby.
"Everything nearby" meaning "My balls". Because unless there's a secret microphone 100x more powerful than the one I use to talk, that's all they're going to hear. Also why are you watching Fox News? Shame on you. This is old news, and also, NOT every cell phone: http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/cell_phones/ . You should be more worried about those subcutaneus tracking chips they're implanting in everyone at birth.
*ahem* you do know sounds can be amplified right? The "Spy Store", Sharper Image, as well as many 99cent stores, sell devices that can magnify sounds 5 to 10,000 times. They record all sounds picked up by your cell phone, as well as any other cell phone in the area (your roomate, girlfriend, neighbour cell phones for example.) Then they amplify the recording. Computer software can easily filter out non-human voice sounds.
You go from believing it, to then disbelieving it by laughing at it being on "Fox News". Then you go back to believing it when you say it's "old news".
And since every cell phone has a microphone, then yes, it is every cell phone that can be used to listen in on any sound nearby.
As for chip implants, now that's old news from roughly 15 years ago. There's a very famous photo of an ant holding a complex chip. Showing how easily those chips can be put into "mandatory vaccines" and implanted.
The old movie "Bug" with one of the Judds was a satire about "chip" aka bug implants. The recnet movie "Get Smart" even lightly touches on it, when they show the scene with The Rock throwing the bug into the trash can. It's actually a bug that looks like a bug! LOL. Funny... thing is... it's real life technology.
But anyway, back to this article this topic is about. The cops messed up. There is no debating that. Now it's up to the parents if they want to let it slide under the rug... or not let the messup go unpunished.
I was just clarifying that fact. There was much assumption there WAS lawyers present.
And your right they did make it "hush hush" but we have no idea what the girl told her mom. We dont know what information the mother had to make the decision she did, a bad one.
I was always taught to trust the boys in blue and especially in a situation where your scared and feel your back is up against the wall. They without a doubt used that to persuade her. EVEN THEN if you are being used as an undercover agent by the police YOU DONT LET HER GET KILLED. That is utter negligence by the police department to use a civillian to do what an undercover police officer does and then commit the biggest fuck up you can make. They had no plan in case the deal were moved?... Are you kidding?... Then they expect this girl to somehow improv her way out of the situation? Sorry negligence on all fronts, if you cant see that then you really are a lemming.
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Legalize,then have a public building to get high at with 2 doors,1 door leads to a room where you get your fix,the second door leads to a room where you can get help.
Man I feel absolutely terrible for laughing. How many hail mary(s) does it take to clean the slate on this one?
In America, selling it is illegal. She was selling it. She was caught. She got caught twice. No amount of antique woodstock tickets would have helped her.
For a time, selling alcohol was illegal. It encouraged tons of crime, created large criminal organizations, and there were people distilling it in lead radiators leading to poisonous product.
Just because making alcohol was a crime doesn't mean it was right.
It's easy to point at the law and say it's the law. It makes the world simple, white and black. But the difference between right and wrong is much different. The law and morality do not always agree.
I'm glad I made this post.
There were no lawyers present in the negotiations.
SHE WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME EXCEPT HER FIRST OFFENSE OF POSSESION.
Pot is not a gateway drug, I have tried cocaine, ecstacy, alcohol, nicotine, pharmies, hallucinegens and pot and the only one I truly enjoy or have tried more than once or twice is pot and alcohol.
Pot is the only drug that has left me feeling still in control. The others are like a train you can't get off of. And all the rest have been scientifically proven to kill you.
Pot has never killed anyone from using.
Furthermore I have a close relative who has smoked pot for 35 years but never smoked cigarettes and his lungs are totally healthy. The only health problems are with his liver from drinking alcohol his whole life.
With all these drugs there are people who are habitual users (the lsd ones are the wierdest) and it kind of creates a "culture" for the drug. An example: $1 bottle happy hour at the bar closest to a police station or a bunch of hemp wearing hippies tripping at a phish concert, the housewife addicted to perkisets and valium, or a bunch of stock brokers doing cocaine at the health club after the markets close, or a bunch of club-heads dancing to disco lights and rolling on ecstacy, or the guys selling and smoking crack on the corner killing over street turf. Or me sitting here ranting about drugs in society on a friday night smoking some pot and waiting for Warhammer Online Beta servers to come back up ;-).
She was not someone who intereacted with the guys cutting up their stash with baking soda and selling it as crack. This is a VERY different type of drug dealer. Within all of these cultires is someone, a friend, who provides these drugs to their friends. The police SHOULD KNOW THIS.
The ONLY excuse the Tallhassee Police department could make is that no one in the entire department has had ANY experimentation with ANY drugs and completely doesn't understand the different sub-cultures that exist between these drugs and their typical users. Which we all know is bullshit because all of these groups have been represented in some way on TV or in film.
FURHTERMORE anyone with no experience with the drug culture or the people associated with them has pretty much a bullshit opinion. I mean you know some of the posters in this thread have NEVER TRIED POT OR ANY ILLIEGAL DRUG lol sorry but you guys need to loosen up it's the 90's! ... I mean... 10's....?
Either way you can't argue for the police on this one-- When you do you sound like a facist.
Edit: accuracy and grammar
i bet these coppers just finished watching miami vice.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
If you investigate this story more the reason why no lawyers was present is because the mother and the daughter made the decision to have NO lawyer present or her own father; her own father had no idea because the daughter is 18 and SHE made the choice to only bring her mother into it. It was kept hush hush from other members of the family. To them, it was bad to have their daughter caught dealing drugs and the less family members who knew the better
If you report a persuasive argument you have to, at least, tell the readers why no lawyers was present in the negotiations.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
*ahem* you do know sounds can be amplified right? The "Spy Store", Sharper Image, as well as many 99cent stores, sell devices that can magnify sounds 5 to 10,000 times. They record all sounds picked up by your cell phone, as well as any other cell phone in the area (your roomate, girlfriend, neighbour cell phones for example.) Then they amplify the recording. Computer software can easily filter out non-human voice sounds.
You go from believing it, to then disbelieving it by laughing at it being on "Fox News". Then you go back to believing it when you say it's "old news".
And since every cell phone has a microphone, then yes, it is every cell phone that can be used to listen in on any sound nearby.
As for chip implants, now that's old news from roughly 15 years ago. There's a very famous photo of an ant holding a complex chip. Showing how easily those chips can be put into "mandatory vaccines" and implanted.
www.flickr.com/photos/bradlauster/2191170533/
(scroll a little more past half way down the page)
forum.fok.nl/topic/246644
alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/ants/ChipAnt_lg.jpg
images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0WTefOtK51I10YBYCuJzbkF
Heck, recently parents in New Jersey, USA protested against mandatory vaccinations for babies, and young kids:
www.digitaljournal.com/article/247439/NJ_Parents_Warn_Against_New_State_Vaccine_Mandate
www.truthnews.us/
The old movie "Bug" with one of the Judds was a satire about "chip" aka bug implants. The recnet movie "Get Smart" even lightly touches on it, when they show the scene with The Rock throwing the bug into the trash can. It's actually a bug that looks like a bug! LOL. Funny... thing is... it's real life technology.
But anyway, back to this article this topic is about. The cops messed up. There is no debating that. Now it's up to the parents if they want to let it slide under the rug... or not let the messup go unpunished.
I was just clarifying that fact. There was much assumption there WAS lawyers present.
And your right they did make it "hush hush" but we have no idea what the girl told her mom. We dont know what information the mother had to make the decision she did, a bad one.
I was always taught to trust the boys in blue and especially in a situation where your scared and feel your back is up against the wall. They without a doubt used that to persuade her. EVEN THEN if you are being used as an undercover agent by the police YOU DONT LET HER GET KILLED. That is utter negligence by the police department to use a civillian to do what an undercover police officer does and then commit the biggest fuck up you can make. They had no plan in case the deal were moved?... Are you kidding?... Then they expect this girl to somehow improv her way out of the situation? Sorry negligence on all fronts, if you cant see that then you really are a lemming.
edit: punc