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QFT and spot on as usual.
Oh heh they made Avery a correspondent I never noticed that, but I tend to tune out BS artists. Huh, maybe I shouldn't have poo pooed the conspiracy theorists.
A site like MMORPG.com should try to get impartial correspondents. Avery has always been anything but impartial and that should have been very very obvious from as far back as over a year ago. Very poor choice guys, seriously. Avery is an OK guy but he is someone who essentially runs a fan site not a correspondent for a site that gives reviews and hopefully honest information.
Heh maybe what MMORPG.com should do instead is make Avery their official AoC advocate and pick someone else to be the official AoC prosecutor and make it like a court room. Isn't that what these forums basically become anyway? Just make it official.
That 700k was around launch , by now it's probably in between 150k-350k active subs .Which is still in terms of MMO retention, considered a success . As long as they hold between 150k-200k they will be fine , And AOC will keep putting along.
As for the topic in hand , SWG was never considered a huge success ,Considering it had a huge I.P. backing it up .You can kinda say the same for AOC , and LOTOR . They both have a core group of fans to pool from , yet seem to not only fail at capturing them , But they also fail at garnering many from the overall pool of MMO enthusiats.SWG had servers with large populations , even with a believed to be failed product(Their own words).I'm sure LOTOR does as well , It's nothing out of the ordinary.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
As for the topic in hand , SWG was never considered a huge success ,Considering it had a huge I.P. backing it up .You can kinda say the same for AOC , and LOTOR . They both have a core group of fans to pool from , yet seem to not only fail at capturing them , But they also fail at garnering many from the overall pool of MMO enthusiats.SWG had servers with large populations , even with a believed to be failed product(Their own words).I'm sure LOTOR does as well , It's nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm in agreement with the 150-200k number. I do however believe a lot of people who are paying the monthly fee simply aren't playing the game. I know guilds of 60+ people just waiting to see what the PvP update will bring but are playing other games in the meantime.
the 700k registered accounts was announced on June 30th - 6 weeks after launch
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2168268#2168268
subs have always been unknown
EQ2 fan sites
As for the topic in hand , SWG was never considered a huge success ,Considering it had a huge I.P. backing it up .You can kinda say the same for AOC , and LOTOR . They both have a core group of fans to pool from , yet seem to not only fail at capturing them , But they also fail at garnering many from the overall pool of MMO enthusiats.SWG had servers with large populations , even with a believed to be failed product(Their own words).I'm sure LOTOR does as well , It's nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm in agreement with the 150-200k number. I do however believe a lot of people who are paying the monthly fee simply aren't playing the game. I know guilds of 60+ people just waiting to see what the PvP update will bring but are playing other games in the meantime.
I've always went by the notion that if there's one there's many , So you're probably right . Like I said though one heavy server doesn't mean anything . It certainly doesn't prove any one side here right or wrong.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
the 700k registered accounts was announced on June 30th - 6 weeks after launch
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2168268#2168268
subs have always been unknown
I know that's why i said around
, I'll admit I'm just guessing based off past launch experiences and the negativity the game has received. It could have 500-700k subs regardless of all intents and purposes expressed here.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I play on a low-mid server in WOW ( Fenris). Last night my server had appx 4000 people on. ( I say appx because I can only count the horde faction directly). The max for wow is probably 6k.
My server is probably about the 25th percentile as far as population, and WOW is nearing it's 'slowest' time ( the few months leading up to an expansion), and yet my server is fuller than the best AoC server.
I am beginning to think AoC is closer to 150k subscribers than most people want to admit.
Wow, good point.
"The polling was done between July the 1st and July the 3rd, 2008"
I'd be interested in seeing current numbers.
The server reached its max yesterday, and is increasing next week. The poll was done a month ago yes, but was only one I could recently find. Was looking for how popular Fury Server was in the past for comparison.
The server full notice just went up.
hmm that screen shot you posted from the ign forums is not from yesterday but from 6/30.... Look at the date on that message thread? vnboards.ign.com/age_of_conan_general_board/b22995/107797667/p1/
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Wow, good point.
"The polling was done between July the 1st and July the 3rd, 2008"
I'd be interested in seeing current numbers.
The server reached its max yesterday, and is increasing next week. The poll was done a month ago yes, but was only one I could recently find. Was looking for how popular Fury Server was in the past for comparison.
The server full notice just went up.
hmm that screen shot you posted from the ign forums is not from yesterday but from 6/30.... Look at the date on that message thread? vnboards.ign.com/age_of_conan_general_board/b22995/107797667/p1/
And even the comment is exactly the same. Proof here that an AoC correspondent is indeed not telling the truth.
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I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
There is a good site for numbers on wow servers. So your numbers are pretty far off on the number of people playing on wow servers. The entire server both alliance and horde are normally around 3k players at peak and I think the average is closer to 2k. Anyway you can play with the graphs from the link below and look at all servers etc.
www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfactionactivity.php
www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfactionactivity.php
www.warcraftrealms.com/activity.php
www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php
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Ethion
Wow, good point.
"The polling was done between July the 1st and July the 3rd, 2008"
I'd be interested in seeing current numbers.
The server reached its max yesterday, and is increasing next week. The poll was done a month ago yes, but was only one I could recently find. Was looking for how popular Fury Server was in the past for comparison.
The server full notice just went up.
hmm that screen shot you posted from the ign forums is not from yesterday but from 6/30.... Look at the date on that message thread? vnboards.ign.com/age_of_conan_general_board/b22995/107797667/p1/
And even the comment is exactly the same. Proof here that an AoC correspondent is indeed not telling the truth.
Hah! I didn't notice the date or comment. Crazy. Does that mean Pasanda, a staff member for Age of Conan on IGN is Avery? Maybe I took my tin foil hat off way too soon.
Id say spin at its worst
Wow, good point.
"The polling was done between July the 1st and July the 3rd, 2008"
I'd be interested in seeing current numbers.
The server reached its max yesterday, and is increasing next week. The poll was done a month ago yes, but was only one I could recently find. Was looking for how popular Fury Server was in the past for comparison.
The server full notice just went up.
hmm that screen shot you posted from the ign forums is not from yesterday but from 6/30.... Look at the date on that message thread? vnboards.ign.com/age_of_conan_general_board/b22995/107797667/p1/
And even the comment is exactly the same. Proof here that an AoC correspondent is indeed not telling the truth.
Hah! I didn't notice the date or comment. Crazy. Does that mean Pasanda, a staff member for Age of Conan on IGN is Avery? Maybe I took my tin foil hat off way too soon.
Caught red handed. I seriously believe he is PR now, and will say anything to pump up AoC. I really hope Admin see's this.
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Wow, good point.
"The polling was done between July the 1st and July the 3rd, 2008"
I'd be interested in seeing current numbers.
The server reached its max yesterday, and is increasing next week. The poll was done a month ago yes, but was only one I could recently find. Was looking for how popular Fury Server was in the past for comparison.
The server full notice just went up.
hmm that screen shot you posted from the ign forums is not from yesterday but from 6/30.... Look at the date on that message thread? vnboards.ign.com/age_of_conan_general_board/b22995/107797667/p1/
And even the comment is exactly the same. Proof here that an AoC correspondent is indeed not telling the truth.
Hah! I didn't notice the date or comment. Crazy. Does that mean Pasanda, a staff member for Age of Conan on IGN is Avery? Maybe I took my tin foil hat off way too soon.
Caught red handed. I seriously believe he is PR now, and will say anything to pump up AoC. I really hope Admin see's this.
Hes a coro lol they must be at rock bottom
I don't think he is a developer or paid employee of funcom.
He has already stated though that he had very early access because he is personal friends of the devs. He has had dinner and partied with the devs and speaks to them regularly.
I don't think we need to do a conspiracy theory thing here, he has basically told us the truth which explains why he defends his friends so much.
Too funny.
I found you answer
- Cabe2323 made a post about the 6/30/08 - Notics the link, please.
On a sidenote its important that Fury reached full status on the initial launch in just a few hours (For making new character, I always make 5-6 charcter when I started to reserve names). Fury is like the Magtheridon version (In WoW terms), all the hardcore play here. Of cause we lost our shares of players, but many players from other ghost server have rerolled a new toon here, for obvious reasons .
Orignal Link: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/187620/page/1
edit: broken link
Furthermore, it only proves that developers used bad logic with this system. Why make a hard limit on the amount of characters created per server? Its stupid. If there is a fixed limit of characters per account, and a fixed limit on the number of characters simultaneously logged in, then there is absolutely no reason to have a limit on characters created. After all, they DO want new customers, right? And how would new customers play the game if the server doesnt allow them to make new chars?
From logical point of view, it makes no sense to block new chars if the server is filled with a bunch of in-active chars. It only takes few bytes (maybe KBs) to hold a record of a character in the DB.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
So there we have it.
The bona fide fanboy on these boards copy/pasting another post on another board from over a month ago. Obviously he's trying to pass it off as a recent occurrence as he made no clarifications to the date of the post hoping nobody would notice it when they click on the link he provided.
Disappointing. I always thought people would put more effort into their last ditch efforts.
If the Fury server was "full" as a result of to many active players logging in then the only logical result would be to split the server into two.
If the Fury server reached maximum number of accounts with characters on that server, but not reached peak activity, then allowing more accounts to create characters is a viable option. It doesn't stress the server any more to allow potential players to log on.
For some reason I always get a bad taste in my mouth after reading Funcom press releases.
Yep. it's pretty obvious.
Avery did a good job before launch of providing us all the information about the game that we didn't want to bother searching for. After launch he has just been a plethera of PR, fanboism, and ridiculous faith in AoC.
This latest PR Statement is a joke. It shows a chart from over a month ago.
AoC isn't an aweful game by any means, it's OK, but it lacks sustainability. I really don't believe that 100,000 people actively play this game. I think it's between 50,000-75,000. They released a product that was nowhere near ready and paid the price.
No amount of spin that Avery tries to pull can change that.
Tecmo Bowl.
Is this thread a joke?
How can the server be full. Im a Fury player and we have diminished from 7-8 instances to 3 now. Ok its has more of a player base than the majority of servers. but in no way is it full.
Well there are 70 extra free spaces on the server now as the guild i was in (Anathema) have all just left. Guild that has been building for AoC for a year, one of the top three on Fury, all gone =]. And we were not the first to leave, and talking to many other guild leaders we certainly will not be the last.
Nice attempt at PR spin though Avery. Like to comment why your posting something from a month ago.? I thought not....
Testlive Servers show as Medium Load ALL THE TIME.
Live Servers show as Medium Load ALL THE TIME.
Its absolutely guaranteed that Testlive does not have medium load on either server, yet they tell you they are at medium load. It is unreliable at best, and unless they release some numbers on what server capacity actually is, it will continue to mean less than nothing.
Rock a FailCom avatar now and express your disgust with pride!
The truth hurts...
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