I wanted to stop in real quick and point everyone to this new site AoCDB.info The page I have linked specifically shows a "Character" count, i.e: how many characters have logged in. We need to keep in mind as well, people can make up to 8 characters per server (think that was the max) This site uses a piece of software from AO called a helpbot. It does various tells, accepts help tells, etc. and tries to calculate the data to gather these charts. If you look at the overall count at this time, there is roughly 144k "characters" on all the servers, with more being added on a regular basis. But, we need to make sure that we keep an open mind here, and note one player can have up to 7 various alts as well. Now, lets look at Fury (the "supposedly" full server) We get a rough calc of almost 12k "characters" All it tells me is the "Database" is almost full, and they need to purge some old data, and expand that base. I would wager 1000 to 2000 players just on that one server. Nothing more. Enjoy
I saw a link to that piece of software about a week or so ago, but I play on EU-Hyrkania & it still hadn't registered my character when I checked a few minutes ago.
Although I can see a couple of people from my guild, if it still hasn't picked up my main character despite playing it most days then exactly how much of a sample is it supposed to be?
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but the frontpage of Aocb.info doesn't seem to explain where there statistics are coming from. Is it like 'Xfire' where it can only register people who use special software?
Regardless of how open your mind is, without knowing where their data comes from & whether it is representative, how is it possible to interpret anything from it at all?
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
So some correspondant (employee) of AoC comes here to tell us that a server is full? And? For what purpose? To hype the game? To help the game sell more? Maybe the OP is geting paid for posting that. If it's an employee, he is geting paid. I wouldn't waste my time volunteering for this crap either. There are many good things I could volunteer to help my real community.
The more AoC hypes the game, the more it seems they are desperate to get subs.
I wanted to stop in real quick and point everyone to this new site AoCDB.info The page I have linked specifically shows a "Character" count, i.e: how many characters have logged in. We need to keep in mind as well, people can make up to 8 characters per server (think that was the max) This site uses a piece of software from AO called a helpbot. It does various tells, accepts help tells, etc. and tries to calculate the data to gather these charts. If you look at the overall count at this time, there is roughly 144k "characters" on all the servers, with more being added on a regular basis. But, we need to make sure that we keep an open mind here, and note one player can have up to 7 various alts as well. Now, lets look at Fury (the "supposedly" full server) We get a rough calc of almost 12k "characters" All it tells me is the "Database" is almost full, and they need to purge some old data, and expand that base. I would wager 1000 to 2000 players just on that one server. Nothing more. Enjoy
I saw a link to that piece of software about a week or so ago, but I play on EU-Hyrkania & it still hadn't registered my character when I checked a few minutes ago.
Although I can see a couple of people from my guild, if it still hasn't picked up my main character despite playing it most days then exactly how much of a sample is it supposed to be?
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but the frontpage of Aocb.info doesn't seem to explain where there statistics are coming from. Is it like 'Xfire' where it can only register people who use special software?
Regardless of how open your mind is, without knowing where their data comes from & whether it is representative, how is it possible to interpret anything from it at all?
The software is based on a specific piece of code from AO, and does not require a client side tool. It will send tells to recognized players. It polls various locations at various times.
This is the reason the numbers continue to grow.
This is the reason it is also noted as a "sample", just like Xfire, and which is but another piece of the puzzle.
Judging from the research conducted by one subscriber below we can only guess as to the other populations with the high that Fury is at now. Does that mean Fury got popular all of a sudden? Or it just has a cooler name? Or was it because it's a PvP server?
The data in this graph has been polled by creating a character in each european server of Age of Conan, reaching level 5 to access the search player function and doing a search for players of levels 1-80. The pages have been counted and multiplied by 50 (there are 50 characters per page in the list) and then the characters on the last pages have been manually counted and added to the total.
The polling was done between July the 1st and July the 3rd, 2008, in a timeframe included between 6.30 PM and 9 PM CET.
Of course the statistical value of this graph is debatable, but should give a pretty good idea of the number of characters logged in each server during primetime, to identify which servers have an high population and which turned into ghost towns. Gathering more solid data is difficult due to the extremely small limit of characters available on each account and the fact that getting to level 5 to access player search takes at least 15 minutes.
What do you think?
wow.. i dont know what to think.. you're gonna tell me right?
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
I wanted to stop in real quick and point everyone to this new site AoCDB.info The page I have linked specifically shows a "Character" count, i.e: how many characters have logged in. We need to keep in mind as well, people can make up to 8 characters per server (think that was the max) This site uses a piece of software from AO called a helpbot. It does various tells, accepts help tells, etc. and tries to calculate the data to gather these charts. If you look at the overall count at this time, there is roughly 144k "characters" on all the servers, with more being added on a regular basis. But, we need to make sure that we keep an open mind here, and note one player can have up to 7 various alts as well. Now, lets look at Fury (the "supposedly" full server) We get a rough calc of almost 12k "characters" All it tells me is the "Database" is almost full, and they need to purge some old data, and expand that base. I would wager 1000 to 2000 players just on that one server. Nothing more. Enjoy
I saw a link to that piece of software about a week or so ago, but I play on EU-Hyrkania & it still hadn't registered my character when I checked a few minutes ago.
Although I can see a couple of people from my guild, if it still hasn't picked up my main character despite playing it most days then exactly how much of a sample is it supposed to be?
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but the frontpage of Aocb.info doesn't seem to explain where there statistics are coming from. Is it like 'Xfire' where it can only register people who use special software?
Regardless of how open your mind is, without knowing where their data comes from & whether it is representative, how is it possible to interpret anything from it at all?
The software is based on a specific piece of code from AO, and does not require a client side tool. It will send tells to recognized players. It polls various locations at various times.
This is the reason the numbers continue to grow.
This is the reason it is also noted as a "sample", just like Xfire, and which is but another piece of the puzzle.
Thank you.
Thanks for the link, although the answers given by 'Doomstone' on their forums about how representative their statistics are seem a bit more 'Zen' then 'Helpful'.
'Romanas' just wanted to know how reliable the statistics and eventually asked :-
"I'm sorry to press the point, but how does a helpbot 'know' a character? For instance it says there is 114 lvl 80s on dagon EU. Which cant be right, theres many more than that."
'Doomstone's reply conforms that it is a sample but give no indication or proportion :-
'There are 114 level 80 characters have been "seen" by the helpbot. it is not a server total'
Assuming that the chances of being seen by their helpbots are totally random (& completely unlike Xfire), that means that whilst it might be a useful indicator of class popularity or average level, without any sense of proportion surely their statistics would be of little value in estimating true server populations, which seemed to be the point of your original post.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
I think we had a lot of tinfoil in this thread. A lot of speculation, and a lot of accusations.
If you think one of the posters on mmorpg.com is in fact a paid employee of a company like Funcom, please send a mail at community@mmorpg.com. But also don't forget to add good, solid hard facts.
Accusing someone of being a shill in public, and starting a flamewar with it, is nothing we want to see here.
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I saw a link to that piece of software about a week or so ago, but I play on EU-Hyrkania & it still hadn't registered my character when I checked a few minutes ago.
Although I can see a couple of people from my guild, if it still hasn't picked up my main character despite playing it most days then exactly how much of a sample is it supposed to be?
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but the frontpage of Aocb.info doesn't seem to explain where there statistics are coming from. Is it like 'Xfire' where it can only register people who use special software?
Regardless of how open your mind is, without knowing where their data comes from & whether it is representative, how is it possible to interpret anything from it at all?
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
So some correspondant (employee) of AoC comes here to tell us that a server is full? And? For what purpose? To hype the game? To help the game sell more? Maybe the OP is geting paid for posting that. If it's an employee, he is geting paid. I wouldn't waste my time volunteering for this crap either. There are many good things I could volunteer to help my real community.
The more AoC hypes the game, the more it seems they are desperate to get subs.
I saw a link to that piece of software about a week or so ago, but I play on EU-Hyrkania & it still hadn't registered my character when I checked a few minutes ago.
Although I can see a couple of people from my guild, if it still hasn't picked up my main character despite playing it most days then exactly how much of a sample is it supposed to be?
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but the frontpage of Aocb.info doesn't seem to explain where there statistics are coming from. Is it like 'Xfire' where it can only register people who use special software?
Regardless of how open your mind is, without knowing where their data comes from & whether it is representative, how is it possible to interpret anything from it at all?
Search is your friend
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The software is based on a specific piece of code from AO, and does not require a client side tool. It will send tells to recognized players. It polls various locations at various times.
This is the reason the numbers continue to grow.
This is the reason it is also noted as a "sample", just like Xfire, and which is but another piece of the puzzle.
Thank you.
wow.. i dont know what to think.. you're gonna tell me right?
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
I saw a link to that piece of software about a week or so ago, but I play on EU-Hyrkania & it still hadn't registered my character when I checked a few minutes ago.
Although I can see a couple of people from my guild, if it still hasn't picked up my main character despite playing it most days then exactly how much of a sample is it supposed to be?
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but the frontpage of Aocb.info doesn't seem to explain where there statistics are coming from. Is it like 'Xfire' where it can only register people who use special software?
Regardless of how open your mind is, without knowing where their data comes from & whether it is representative, how is it possible to interpret anything from it at all?
Search is your friend
Forums
The software is based on a specific piece of code from AO, and does not require a client side tool. It will send tells to recognized players. It polls various locations at various times.
This is the reason the numbers continue to grow.
This is the reason it is also noted as a "sample", just like Xfire, and which is but another piece of the puzzle.
Thank you.
Thanks for the link, although the answers given by 'Doomstone' on their forums about how representative their statistics are seem a bit more 'Zen' then 'Helpful'.
'Romanas' just wanted to know how reliable the statistics and eventually asked :-
"I'm sorry to press the point, but how does a helpbot 'know' a character? For instance it says there is 114 lvl 80s on dagon EU. Which cant be right, theres many more than that."
'Doomstone's reply conforms that it is a sample but give no indication or proportion :-
'There are 114 level 80 characters have been "seen" by the helpbot. it is not a server total'
Assuming that the chances of being seen by their helpbots are totally random (& completely unlike Xfire), that means that whilst it might be a useful indicator of class popularity or average level, without any sense of proportion surely their statistics would be of little value in estimating true server populations, which seemed to be the point of your original post.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
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Now, where do i start?
I think we had a lot of tinfoil in this thread. A lot of speculation, and a lot of accusations.
If you think one of the posters on mmorpg.com is in fact a paid employee of a company like Funcom, please send a mail at community@mmorpg.com. But also don't forget to add good, solid hard facts.
Accusing someone of being a shill in public, and starting a flamewar with it, is nothing we want to see here.
Having that said, this thread is closed.