Originally posted by deviliscious I have had guy friends that played female toons not for attention, not to con anyone into thinking they were a girl, but because they wanted to look at a girl avatar. Guys playing girls as long as they are honest when it comes to relationship intentions I have no issue with. I also do not think it is okay for girls to play with guys emotions as well. If they have no intentions with a person, they should state that upfront. If they do not share a guys affection they should let the guy know immediately. They should not accept gifts or mislead them because this can cause the guy emotional harm. It is the deceitful act in itself that is the issue, because it does cause others harm. If your actions do not harm anyone I do not see a problem with it.
I never saw wrong in the OP until I read he gains from it financially and doesn't seemingly care about the other party's feelings.
Getting attention, affection by roleplaying a girl in a game or through channels isn't really wrong I think. It's not that different from using an avatar or attractive clothing in game while the person isn't like that in RL sometimes.
But gaining from this financially or not caring when the other person would get really hurt is wrong though.
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally.
If some would act more like men and not be so stupid, they may actually find they can impress women in other ways and actually get some respect and real attention rather than being a good laugh during girl talk later at what great stuff some moron just gave or did for some woman. I'm sure most guys will remember many times when they've continually flattered a female and repeatedly assisted them and offered them help or to buy things for them, only to find they began giving themselves to some 'undeserving' jerk. Jerk or not, they probably acted like a man and not pathetic and needy, as most of the online males that feed into this are, and deserved the woman regardless. I am sure if these poor guys lacking social skills that they target knew how to change their behavior they would, the problem is they do not and it is shameful to prey upon some poor guy that is probably already depressed in the first place. The desire for a relationship, for a family, and for a future is very strong, and I agree that many men out there do not simply know what a woman really wants. You cannot buy a woman ( unless you mail order a russian bride j/k) . For a real meaningful relationship the best you can do is have good conversations with her, she does not need a ton of crap pixel or otherwise to know that you care for her. Being thoughtful, having common interests, and having interesting conversations is much more productive when it comes to "woo-ing " a woman. I do not think these male victims deserve to have this happen to them, no one deserves to be treated badly, jsut because these guys are gullable enough to have this done to them, does not make it okay as a society to approve of such behavior or even tolerate it. I admit I do find it pleasing that men are able to play this game as well, but in all honesty it's the men's fault for creating the opportunity, not the guy's that posted this. It is a dog-eat-dog world. I've never played a game this way although i have had one female character, and was offered all sorts of assistance without solicitation that I was consistently denied on my male characters quite frequently, I suppose just to spend more time with my character. After openly saying "I'm a dude, I just made this chick because I wanted to use the name" all of a sudden people became busy though their night was free just earlier, lol, even though I thought we had became buds in the groups I'd met them in(I never said anything remotely sexual, and detered those comments because obviously that's gross, I just made normal grind chitchats as I do on all my characters). I do not find it pleasing for either males or females to con people. I find that disturbing that people find this pleasurable at all. The world is what you make of it, and for most of us we do not make it a "dog eat dog world" for most of us we help each other, care for each other and look at ourselves as part of our world, not just an individual. It is not about what works for me.. it is about what is best for our world, what is best for our neighborhood, what is best for everyone and not just one. Moral of the story: Stop being desperate losers and you won't get taken advantage of by either gender. I am sure if these guys knew how to do that they would, that does not make it acceptable for someone to victimize them either. Just because someone can come into your home and rob you does not mean it is okay for them to do so, just because they can knock a granny out of their wheelchair and take a joy ride in it does not mean it is okay to do so, Just because people can hack your account it is not okay to do so and Just because you can con people in a game does not mean it is okay to do so. Just Play The Game (n_-)b
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally. The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Wow. I can't believe someone would admit this. You have much bigger problems, than wanting to take advantage of men. I think you crave attention, and you're willing to do anything for that attention. This has nothing to do with your desires of taking advantage of little boys, and geeky men.
I did the same a couple times (and by couple times, i mean a couple hours in a toon, then stopping). It is quite sad the 'level' to wich men fall when they think they are hiting on a girl. Nop, never even stated ever i was girl, never lied, if anyone asked i clearly said i was men, still, some guys, just assume i am girl, and, most stupid, they assume i WANT something with them. Not only that, but sometimes i saw those "naked elf ladies dancing" (or any race, any game) and people drooling over them. Even when others saying they are men, they said so themselfs, they assume they are men, the droolers keep drooling over the pixels, paying gold/items for the "show"...
I pity the fools.
Yep, this was how my first experience as a female toon went back in '00 of EQ. I've never played a female again. The desperation of some men is truly sad. I pity them, but I certainly don't emphasize with them. My advice to the losers who give stuff to female toons; Seek help.
People being conned by common email and telephone scams oughta know better also lol... there's crap about it everywhere these days warning folks... not to mention the fact people should use their uncommon sense and know to hang up, find their official numbers and call the real companies and report the fact. Personal information especially and mainly credit cards, social security numbers, passwords and the like are already on file if they're needed at any agency and can be pulled up on a computer at the snap of a finger. Agencies themselves tell people specifically not to give this out lol. I'm not advocating anything that truely cons people and causes loss and destroys lives but, this guy should not be compared to that in the least and once again people oughta know better. I'm always on guard and have avoided being scammed myself, and by the lowlives I've met in my life conned as well as having an obviously careful scrutiny of the women I allow myself to trust. As for the comments about the men not being able to help it, you'd think they could learn from their mistakes and even talk to female friends to learn and ask for help. It's not that difficult to gradually recondition one's self to avoid repeating mistakes if getting laid is that important to the men. It just takes reflection, consideration, consulting, forming new habits and experimentation.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
Like I said...real money cons...bad....virtual cons for intangible items...not bad...not good...but not bad. as for the victims..play the game...then log off..and find one of the many other outlets for your needs...cyber or otherwise. If there are real world social issues...then go to a chat room..sign up on e-harmony..something. I agree..most desire companionship..there is nothing abnormal about that....but people that think others (time or emotions) can be bought...are chum for the many sharks looking for an easy meal. In reality...to take advantage of this is not right .in an (rpg) game...it is not wrong. Hopefully in both situations ...one would think a lesson was learned.
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally. The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
Hopefully in both situations ...one would think a lesson was learned.
Exactly... many of these people tend to make the same mistake again hoping for better I suppose, or retreating further... and that's the wrong way to respond.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
People being conned by common email and telephone scams oughta know better also lol... there's crap about it everywhere these days warning folks... not to mention the fact people should use their uncommon sense and know to hang up, find their official numbers and call the real companies and report the fact. Personal information especially and mainly credit cards, social security numbers, passwords and the like are already on file if they're needed at any agency and can be pulled up on a computer at the snap of a finger. Agencies themselves tell people specifically not to give this out lol. I'm not advocating anything that truely cons people and causes loss and destroys lives but, this guy should not be compared to that in the least and once again people oughta know better. I'm always on guard and have avoided being scammed myself, and by the lowlives I've met in my life conned as well as having an obviously careful scrutiny of the women I allow myself to trust. As for the comments about the men not being able to help it, you'd think they could learn from their mistakes and even talk to female friends to learn and ask for help. It's not that difficult to gradually recondition one's self to avoid repeating mistakes if getting laid is that important to the men. It just takes reflection, consideration, consulting, forming new habits and experimentation.
The problem here is that these victims are usually not intelligent enough to defend themselves. we have many people with mental disabilities, elderly with dimished capacity, and people that are too far into depression to pull themselves out in online games and in our society. The differnce here is that the people taking advantage of these people do know better, and are targeting these people because they think it is acceptable behavior in their own mind. I cannot support or condone this behavior. As a society, we help those who need it, not kick them when they are down.
They're just MMO players, probably married or high shool teenagers. 99% probably never gets taken advantage of online. It's harmless fun.
The OP can't be the norm because I know more than one guy playing a female online, but the OP takes advantage from them financially and that's where he's going over the line.
I have 0 problem with mangina's though, guys who just play females and pretend to be for fun, there is nothing wrong with that, MMO are meant to be fantasy.
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally. The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Heh, everyone I've met in person isn't the kind to take advantage of people.. all the people I met are nice and friendly and don't use the term "Dog eat dog world". Well actually, I've met a few...they were aholes and I just avoided them, I had no need to interact with those kinds of people.
And not everyone is able to talkor meet people in real life, some have disabilities that diminish their social skills...maybe they are physically disabled and have to be on the PC all the time and aren't able to do much (I know one person in my family like that), so the only way for them to meet people is through the online world.
How is someone's disability that the fault of Damond? I'm sorry for the person who is disabled, but Damond did not do anything wrong to make him or her the way he or she is.
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally. The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Deviliscious has responded respectfully. so "little lady" is a bit condescending. I've already stated my opinions on real life cons and rpg cons....but noone deserves to have a broken heart. Should they experience one?..absolutely..as painful as it may be..it is a learning experience. Scamming for a Living?....bullsh@t...no one needs to scam for a living. If anyone needs to resort to cons on a regular basis to feed there families...then they are not trying hard enough . As for Bill Gates...i'm sure he bent/broke some rules...and the guy he bought DOS from is not a multi billionaire...but I guarantee you he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life....bit off topic..sorry.
Heh, everyone I've met in person isn't the kind to take advantage of people.. all the people I met are nice and friendly and don't use the term "Dog eat dog world". Well actually, I've met a few...they were aholes and I just avoided them, I had no need to interact with those kinds of people. And not everyone is able to talkor meet people in real life, some have disabilities that diminish their social skills...maybe they are physically disabled and have to be on the PC all the time and aren't able to do much (I know one person in my family like that), so the only way for them to meet people is through the online world.
That has been my expierance as well. I have met many people in games with physical and mental disabilities. For some of these people this is their only outlet, it is a shame that people actually think it is okay to prey upon them. FYI the guy I knew that tried to hang himself after a shemale took him for a ride.. he was in a car accident when he was 14, he was both physically and mentally disabled for life. He never graduated from school, he never went on a real date, he never played sports. All he wanted in this world was to be normal, but I guess that just makes him easy pickings for people like this.
I might add at this point, with all the talk of the disabled and such. I do not take advantage of anyone I know to be disabled or sick; yeah I like to have my fun but I wont "prey" on those types. There was a guy a few weeks ago that told me the story of his bout with cancer, I actually turned around and gave him some of the proceeds from my unsavory dealings so that I might bring a smile to his face. And I believe my heart grew three sizes that day
Also I don't think some of you would feel these people were so helpless if you had seen some of the things they say to me. Its not all fun and games being an chick in mmo, I have heard some sick shit that would make you wonder what the world is coming to
I might add at this point, with all the talk of the disabled and such. I do not take advantage of anyone I know to be disabled or sick; yeah I like to have my fun but I wont "prey" on those types. There was a guy a few weeks ago that told me the story of his bout with cancer, I actually turned around and gave him some of the proceeds from my unsavory dealings so that I might bring a smile to his face. And I believe my heart grew three sizes that day Also I don't think some of you would feel these people were so helpless if you had seen some of the things they say to me. Its not all fun and games being an chick in mmo, I have heard some sick shit that would make you wonder what the world is coming to
Random acts of kindness do not make up for wronging others. How do you know these guys are not mentally deficient? Most guys don't come out and say they are, I would not have known the state of the guy who tried to hang himself if is real brother hadn;t played the game with him and told me. From looking at online characters you cannot tell much about a person or their past. He did not like to talk about it because he wanted to know what it would feel like to be treated like everyone else. What people consider to be "sick" when it comes to sex is purely a matter of taste. If you were incinuating sex of course it will be discussed, because that is natural between anyone in a relationship.
People being conned by common email and telephone scams oughta know better also lol... there's crap about it everywhere these days warning folks... not to mention the fact people should use their uncommon sense and know to hang up, find their official numbers and call the real companies and report the fact. Personal information especially and mainly credit cards, social security numbers, passwords and the like are already on file if they're needed at any agency and can be pulled up on a computer at the snap of a finger. Agencies themselves tell people specifically not to give this out lol. I'm not advocating anything that truely cons people and causes loss and destroys lives but, this guy should not be compared to that in the least and once again people oughta know better. I'm always on guard and have avoided being scammed myself, and by the lowlives I've met in my life conned as well as having an obviously careful scrutiny of the women I allow myself to trust. As for the comments about the men not being able to help it, you'd think they could learn from their mistakes and even talk to female friends to learn and ask for help. It's not that difficult to gradually recondition one's self to avoid repeating mistakes if getting laid is that important to the men. It just takes reflection, consideration, consulting, forming new habits and experimentation.
The problem here is that these victims are usually not intelligent enough to defend themselves. we have many people with mental disabilities, elderly with dimished capacity, and people that are too far into depression to pull themselves out in online games and in our society. The differnce here is that the people taking advantage of these people do know better, and are targeting these people because they think it is acceptable behavior in their own mind. I cannot support or condone this behavior. As a society, we help those who need it, not kick them when they are down.
It's the process of natural selection, besides in a growing population with greater lifespans more needs and diminishing resources these things are only going to become more common. Just like the rest of nature in our world's environment, there are Usually two positions, feeding or food, or in our cases Faker or Fool. I don't go around doing this online or off, and I'm honestly a nice person in the games since I don't allow myself to take it too seriously, but from a logical perspective this is just what happens. There are fewer to NO consequences online, and I've found many deplorable traits magnified as well as much of my own admitted cynicism justified through the secrets people divulge and the things I observe in an online environment.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger (if we choose to learn) and the strong feed upon the weak. It is from our evolutionary path to have the tendency to be selfish, it allowed us to survive long enough as a species to develop our big brains. Most of our virtue is taught and imitated behavior from our parents, teachers, the media and society itself. It eventually guides the development of our minds as our brains mature and we form the foundations of our perception of the world and the positions we see ourselves in it. Once we're made we're made, if some people have such a problem with human nature, start working on the next generation.
Some people even if they start out with a heart of gold have no choice in learning very quickly that the world can be a very cruel place, and does not discriminate. Adaptation is neccessary, and I understand this guy's perspective, and to be honest I think he's probably not a very bad guy in real life. His experiences lead him one way, yours another, you both are right in your own way based on your own experiences.. but he is definately right about people not being all sunshine and rainbows. And that some people are just plain stupid.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally. The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Deviliscious has responded respectfully. so "little lady" is a bit condescending. I've already stated my opinions on real life cons and rpg cons....but noone deserves to have a broken heart. Should they experience one?..absolutely..as painful as it may be..it is a learning experience. Scamming for a Living?....bullsh@t...no one needs to scam for a living. If anyone needs to resort to cons on a regular basis to feed there families...then they are not trying hard enough . As for Bill Gates...i'm sure he bent/broke some rules...and the guy he bought DOS from is not a multi billionaire...but I guarantee you he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life....bit off topic..sorry.
Like I said before all people are not born equal. People are not born on level playing fields. Some people are born into bad situations. Some make it out to become successful. The people born on a horrible playing field need to adapt to their situation, they need to adjust to their enviroment so they can survive. If they have to scam or trick people into getting what they want, than so be it, that is what they have to do. You do not walk in their shoes, you do not wear their clothes.
I admit it may be wrong, but in a world where everything is not equal, he or she must do what she or he as to do to survive. Believe me they are trying. They are doing their best with what they have. They are trying their best to be as creative as possible to make a profit. Do you think CEO's of major corporations care about the well being of their customers. I don't think so. All they care about is making a profit. If they die, so be it, if they are sick, hell they don't care. All they want is their dollars and their bills.
Why hasn't WoW created a support group for people who are not intelligent enough to get conned? It is because they don't care. They want their money, they want their bills. If there is such a support group, please by all means, show me the proof. I
A good way to look at America in terms of survival is the game of Poker. Sadly we've got to step on people to get ahead.
It's the process of natural selection, besides in a growing population with greater lifespans more needs and diminishing resources these things are only going to become more common. Just like the rest of nature in our world's environment, there are Usually two positions, feeding or food, or in our cases Faker or Fool. I don't go around doing this online or off, and I'm honestly a nice person in the games since I don't allow myself to take it too seriously, but from a logical perspective this is just what happens. There are fewer to NO consequences online, and I've found many deplorable traits magnified as well as much of my own admitted cynicism justified through the secrets people divulge and the things I observe in an online environment. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger (if we choose to learn) and the strong feed upon the weak. It is from our evolutionary path to have the tendency to be selfish, it allowed us to survive long enough as a species to develop our big brains. Most of our virtue is taught and imitated behavior from our parents, teachers, the media and society itself. It eventually guides the development of our minds as our brains mature and we form the foundations of our perception of the world and the positions we see ourselves in it. Once we're made we're made, if some people have such a problem with human nature, start working on the next generation. Some people even if they start out with a heart of gold have no choice in learning very quickly that the world can be a very cruel place, and does not discriminate. Adaptation is neccessary, and I understand this guy's perspective, and to be honest I think he's probably not a very bad guy in real life. His experiences lead him one way, yours another, you both are right in your own way based on your own experiences.. but he is definately right about people not being all sunshine and rainbows. And that some people are just plain stupid.
What a beastly way to think! Despite how much I appreciate beastliness in certain aspects of life, There is a time and place for everything. As humans we look after our young, we protect our injured, we help each other when we are down, this is what seperates us from most other animals. Yes natural selection is only the strongest survives, but we as human beings have been able to overcome our primative natures and treat each other with decency.
I might add at this point, with all the talk of the disabled and such. I do not take advantage of anyone I know to be disabled or sick; yeah I like to have my fun but I wont "prey" on those types. There was a guy a few weeks ago that told me the story of his bout with cancer, I actually turned around and gave him some of the proceeds from my unsavory dealings so that I might bring a smile to his face. And I believe my heart grew three sizes that day Also I don't think some of you would feel these people were so helpless if you had seen some of the things they say to me. Its not all fun and games being an chick in mmo, I have heard some sick shit that would make you wonder what the world is coming to
Random acts of kindness do not make up for wronging others. How do you know these guys are not mentally deficient? Most guys don't come out and say they are, I would not have known the state of the guy who tried to hang himself if is real brother hadn;t played the game with him and told me. From looking at online characters you cannot tell much about a person or their past. He did not like to talk about it because he wanted to know what it would feel like to be treated like everyone else. What people consider to be "sick" when it comes to sex is purely a matter of taste. If you were incinuating sex of course it will be discussed, because that is natural between anyone in a relationship.
Funny thing is..there is a real possibility the cancer victim you gave loot to was giving you a taste of your own medicine. 2nd Month i played WOW i had a toon tell me the same thing...gave him some gold...He/She yelled "Stupid Noob LOL" and hauled ass. Sure I was pissed..then I laughed and chalked it up to experience. Didn't keep me from handing gold out or giving a low level some loot from time to time. I just have a better screening process now. Now i know some people may ...due to mental/physical/emotional impairment..be unable to make such a judgement . I know in reality, a con could care less. ..but rpg Cons should be able to screen well enough to tell the impaired from the desperate and depraved....and should never take anyone for tangible goods...thats just bullsh@T... If you're going to con someone out of real cash prizes..then at least have the balls to it in the real world where consequences are more immediate.
Funny thing is..there is a real possibility the cancer victim you gave loot to was giving you a taste of your own medicine. 2nd Month i played WOW i had a toon tell me the same thing...gave him some gold...He/She yelled "Stupid Noob LOL" and hauled ass. I agree, his "genderbending" is only one outlet for these cons, I do think that the guy pretending to have an ilness is just as bad as the guy pretending to be a girl at the expense of others. Sure I was pissed..then I laughed and chalked it up to experience. Didn't keep me from handing gold out or giving a low level some loot from time to time. I just have a better screening process now. Now i know some people may ...due to mental/physical/emotional impairment..be unable to make such a judgement . I know in reality, a con could care less. ..but rpg Cons should be able to screen well enough to tell the impaired from the desperate and depraved....and should never take anyone for tangible goods...thats just bullsh@T... If you're going to con someone out of real cash prizes..then at least have the balls to it in the real world where consequences are more immediate.
I also agree that it is no different than doing it in the real world, at least in the real world you have to sit there and take your consequences, your humilation, and face what you have done, rather than have the cheap " delete player/ ignore list/ log out" and they may randomly run into you later, but still you can just log out to avoid them. That is such a spineless thing to do.
I think a few people here could benefit from reading some Darwin or Gould. Some of your ideas regarding evolution are so far off, you can't ever have read either much less paid attention in science class.
Evolution is survival of the FITTEST. That means the fittest to survive in an environment. It has ZERO to do with physical strength or whether you are a feeder or food. Mostly because almost ALL life forms on this planet are BOTH feeder and food.
Being large strong feeders didn't help the dinosaurs much, eh? Yet other smaller creatures from that era survived.
That said, people who believe that preying on the weak is some evolutionary characteristic that helped man survive are 100% out to lunch. Flat out WRONG -- it's just that simple.
To promote the mindset that cons and scams are harmless is somewhat incredible to me.
Sorry, folks like that are what is wrong with the world today. When we choose to knock down the weak instead of giving them a helping hand up we are all lessened as human beings.
And I happen to be a heartless conservative to boot.
Yes natural selection is only the strongest survives, but we as human beings have been able to overcome our primative natures and treat each other with decency.
Natural selection is the best suited survives, not the best or strongest really. If someone is 7 foot built like an Ox and as smart as Einstein it wouldn't matter if they were too passive to respond to danger with more than hope for goodness in people and a change of a mugger's heart.
I did not see your post earlier about the guy who had the accident by the way, that is a very shitty thing to do to someone and one of the main reasons I don't do that myself in these games. Besides it being gross acting like that, I wouldn't wanna be the cause of someone like that or some hormone-crazed kid killing themselves over game loot. That's as retarded as the pervs badgering chicks in these games.
I do have to say that I have seen a Lot of hypocrisy in my life, and from the people that some would expect it from the least. In a way, most of us has done something to someone, or not practiced what we preach, I suppose that's a way some of the real life cons reason it. Even though the con isn't the person that was wronged, it may seem deserved to some, or justified. My own twist on the golden rule is "Do unto others as they would do unto you" That means if I take someone for a good person, I treat them well but if I know with good reason they're a prick or corrupt I don't mind avoiding them or going for a preemptive.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally. The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Deviliscious has responded respectfully. so "little lady" is a bit condescending. I've already stated my opinions on real life cons and rpg cons....but noone deserves to have a broken heart. Should they experience one?..absolutely..as painful as it may be..it is a learning experience. Scamming for a Living?....bullsh@t...no one needs to scam for a living. If anyone needs to resort to cons on a regular basis to feed there families...then they are not trying hard enough . As for Bill Gates...i'm sure he bent/broke some rules...and the guy he bought DOS from is not a multi billionaire...but I guarantee you he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life....bit off topic..sorry.
Like I said before all people are not born equal. People are not born on level playing fields. Some people are born into bad situations. Some make it out to become successful. The people born on a horrible playing field need to adapt to their situation, they need to adjust to their enviroment so they can survive. If they have to scam or trick people into getting what they want, than so be it, that is what they have to do. You do not walk in their shoes, you do not wear their clothes.
I admit it may be wrong, but in a world where everything is not equal, he or she must do what she or he as to do to survive. Believe me they are trying. They are doing their best with what they have. They are trying their best to be as creative as possible to make a profit. Do you think CEO's of major corporations care about the well being of their customers. I don't think so. All they care about is making a profit. If they die, so be it, if they are sick, hell they don't care. All they want is their dollars and their bills.
Why hasn't WoW created a support group for people who are not intelligent enough to get conned? It is because they don't care. They want their money, they want their bills. If there is such a support group, please by all means, show me the proof. I
A good way to look at America in terms of survival is the game of Poker. Sadly we've got to step on people to get ahead.
The Troll
Scamming is not necessary to live. No matter what level playing field one finds themselves. At the least one may play the odd scam to get ahead...then straighten life's needs accordingly. The problem is...those with a con mentality...rarely do this. They con...burn thru cash like a rap star..then continue this cycle in order to live outside their means...feeding on and depleting person after persons' funds like a virus. Do not presume to know what shoes i walk in..and what clothes i wear. But because of what I personally believe..I could neither maintain being a small time con nor a CEO... i'm not capable of perpetual deceit. ..am i an angel...sh#t no....ah..nevermind...i'm just ranting now.
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I never saw wrong in the OP until I read he gains from it financially and doesn't seemingly care about the other party's feelings.
Getting attention, affection by roleplaying a girl in a game or through channels isn't really wrong I think. It's not that different from using an avatar or attractive clothing in game while the person isn't like that in RL sometimes.
But gaining from this financially or not caring when the other person would get really hurt is wrong though.
Damond did not force the people getting "conned" to give him money or gifts. The people who fall for these tricks are the ones who need help. They should not be playing games. But the developers don't care, all they are interested in is there money, and so is Damond. But the thing is the people who need help choose to play games to escape the big bad world rather than getting help. It is there fault if they get heart eitehr financially or emotionally.
The Troll
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Wow. I can't believe someone would admit this. You have much bigger problems, than wanting to take advantage of men. I think you crave attention, and you're willing to do anything for that attention. This has nothing to do with your desires of taking advantage of little boys, and geeky men.
Yep, this was how my first experience as a female toon went back in '00 of EQ. I've never played a female again. The desperation of some men is truly sad. I pity them, but I certainly don't emphasize with them. My advice to the losers who give stuff to female toons; Seek help.
People being conned by common email and telephone scams oughta know better also lol... there's crap about it everywhere these days warning folks... not to mention the fact people should use their uncommon sense and know to hang up, find their official numbers and call the real companies and report the fact. Personal information especially and mainly credit cards, social security numbers, passwords and the like are already on file if they're needed at any agency and can be pulled up on a computer at the snap of a finger. Agencies themselves tell people specifically not to give this out lol. I'm not advocating anything that truely cons people and causes loss and destroys lives but, this guy should not be compared to that in the least and once again people oughta know better. I'm always on guard and have avoided being scammed myself, and by the lowlives I've met in my life conned as well as having an obviously careful scrutiny of the women I allow myself to trust. As for the comments about the men not being able to help it, you'd think they could learn from their mistakes and even talk to female friends to learn and ask for help. It's not that difficult to gradually recondition one's self to avoid repeating mistakes if getting laid is that important to the men. It just takes reflection, consideration, consulting, forming new habits and experimentation.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
Like I said...real money cons...bad....virtual cons for intangible items...not bad...not good...but not bad. as for the victims..play the game...then log off..and find one of the many other outlets for your needs...cyber or otherwise. If there are real world social issues...then go to a chat room..sign up on e-harmony..something. I agree..most desire companionship..there is nothing abnormal about that....but people that think others (time or emotions) can be bought...are chum for the many sharks looking for an easy meal. In reality...to take advantage of this is not right .in an (rpg) game...it is not wrong. Hopefully in both situations ...one would think a lesson was learned.
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Exactly... many of these people tend to make the same mistake again hoping for better I suppose, or retreating further... and that's the wrong way to respond.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
The problem here is that these victims are usually not intelligent enough to defend themselves. we have many people with mental disabilities, elderly with dimished capacity, and people that are too far into depression to pull themselves out in online games and in our society. The differnce here is that the people taking advantage of these people do know better, and are targeting these people because they think it is acceptable behavior in their own mind. I cannot support or condone this behavior. As a society, we help those who need it, not kick them when they are down.
They're just MMO players, probably married or high shool teenagers. 99% probably never gets taken advantage of online. It's harmless fun.
The OP can't be the norm because I know more than one guy playing a female online, but the OP takes advantage from them financially and that's where he's going over the line.
I have 0 problem with mangina's though, guys who just play females and pretend to be for fun, there is nothing wrong with that, MMO are meant to be fantasy.
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Heh, everyone I've met in person isn't the kind to take advantage of people.. all the people I met are nice and friendly and don't use the term "Dog eat dog world". Well actually, I've met a few...they were aholes and I just avoided them, I had no need to interact with those kinds of people.
And not everyone is able to talkor meet people in real life, some have disabilities that diminish their social skills...maybe they are physically disabled and have to be on the PC all the time and aren't able to do much (I know one person in my family like that), so the only way for them to meet people is through the online world.
How is someone's disability that the fault of Damond? I'm sorry for the person who is disabled, but Damond did not do anything wrong to make him or her the way he or she is.
The TROLL
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Deviliscious has responded respectfully. so "little lady" is a bit condescending. I've already stated my opinions on real life cons and rpg cons....but noone deserves to have a broken heart. Should they experience one?..absolutely..as painful as it may be..it is a learning experience. Scamming for a Living?....bullsh@t...no one needs to scam for a living. If anyone needs to resort to cons on a regular basis to feed there families...then they are not trying hard enough . As for Bill Gates...i'm sure he bent/broke some rules...and the guy he bought DOS from is not a multi billionaire...but I guarantee you he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life....bit off topic..sorry.
That has been my expierance as well. I have met many people in games with physical and mental disabilities. For some of these people this is their only outlet, it is a shame that people actually think it is okay to prey upon them. FYI the guy I knew that tried to hang himself after a shemale took him for a ride.. he was in a car accident when he was 14, he was both physically and mentally disabled for life. He never graduated from school, he never went on a real date, he never played sports. All he wanted in this world was to be normal, but I guess that just makes him easy pickings for people like this.
I might add at this point, with all the talk of the disabled and such. I do not take advantage of anyone I know to be disabled or sick; yeah I like to have my fun but I wont "prey" on those types. There was a guy a few weeks ago that told me the story of his bout with cancer, I actually turned around and gave him some of the proceeds from my unsavory dealings so that I might bring a smile to his face. And I believe my heart grew three sizes that day
Also I don't think some of you would feel these people were so helpless if you had seen some of the things they say to me. Its not all fun and games being an chick in mmo, I have heard some sick shit that would make you wonder what the world is coming to
Random acts of kindness do not make up for wronging others. How do you know these guys are not mentally deficient? Most guys don't come out and say they are, I would not have known the state of the guy who tried to hang himself if is real brother hadn;t played the game with him and told me. From looking at online characters you cannot tell much about a person or their past. He did not like to talk about it because he wanted to know what it would feel like to be treated like everyone else. What people consider to be "sick" when it comes to sex is purely a matter of taste. If you were incinuating sex of course it will be discussed, because that is natural between anyone in a relationship.
The problem here is that these victims are usually not intelligent enough to defend themselves. we have many people with mental disabilities, elderly with dimished capacity, and people that are too far into depression to pull themselves out in online games and in our society. The differnce here is that the people taking advantage of these people do know better, and are targeting these people because they think it is acceptable behavior in their own mind. I cannot support or condone this behavior. As a society, we help those who need it, not kick them when they are down.
It's the process of natural selection, besides in a growing population with greater lifespans more needs and diminishing resources these things are only going to become more common. Just like the rest of nature in our world's environment, there are Usually two positions, feeding or food, or in our cases Faker or Fool. I don't go around doing this online or off, and I'm honestly a nice person in the games since I don't allow myself to take it too seriously, but from a logical perspective this is just what happens. There are fewer to NO consequences online, and I've found many deplorable traits magnified as well as much of my own admitted cynicism justified through the secrets people divulge and the things I observe in an online environment.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger (if we choose to learn) and the strong feed upon the weak. It is from our evolutionary path to have the tendency to be selfish, it allowed us to survive long enough as a species to develop our big brains. Most of our virtue is taught and imitated behavior from our parents, teachers, the media and society itself. It eventually guides the development of our minds as our brains mature and we form the foundations of our perception of the world and the positions we see ourselves in it. Once we're made we're made, if some people have such a problem with human nature, start working on the next generation.
Some people even if they start out with a heart of gold have no choice in learning very quickly that the world can be a very cruel place, and does not discriminate. Adaptation is neccessary, and I understand this guy's perspective, and to be honest I think he's probably not a very bad guy in real life. His experiences lead him one way, yours another, you both are right in your own way based on your own experiences.. but he is definately right about people not being all sunshine and rainbows. And that some people are just plain stupid.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Deviliscious has responded respectfully. so "little lady" is a bit condescending. I've already stated my opinions on real life cons and rpg cons....but noone deserves to have a broken heart. Should they experience one?..absolutely..as painful as it may be..it is a learning experience. Scamming for a Living?....bullsh@t...no one needs to scam for a living. If anyone needs to resort to cons on a regular basis to feed there families...then they are not trying hard enough . As for Bill Gates...i'm sure he bent/broke some rules...and the guy he bought DOS from is not a multi billionaire...but I guarantee you he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life....bit off topic..sorry.
Like I said before all people are not born equal. People are not born on level playing fields. Some people are born into bad situations. Some make it out to become successful. The people born on a horrible playing field need to adapt to their situation, they need to adjust to their enviroment so they can survive. If they have to scam or trick people into getting what they want, than so be it, that is what they have to do. You do not walk in their shoes, you do not wear their clothes.
I admit it may be wrong, but in a world where everything is not equal, he or she must do what she or he as to do to survive. Believe me they are trying. They are doing their best with what they have. They are trying their best to be as creative as possible to make a profit. Do you think CEO's of major corporations care about the well being of their customers. I don't think so. All they care about is making a profit. If they die, so be it, if they are sick, hell they don't care. All they want is their dollars and their bills.
Why hasn't WoW created a support group for people who are not intelligent enough to get conned? It is because they don't care. They want their money, they want their bills. If there is such a support group, please by all means, show me the proof. I
A good way to look at America in terms of survival is the game of Poker. Sadly we've got to step on people to get ahead.
The Troll
What a beastly way to think! Despite how much I appreciate beastliness in certain aspects of life, There is a time and place for everything. As humans we look after our young, we protect our injured, we help each other when we are down, this is what seperates us from most other animals. Yes natural selection is only the strongest survives, but we as human beings have been able to overcome our primative natures and treat each other with decency.
I wouldn't call it unethical...just sorta gay...
Random acts of kindness do not make up for wronging others. How do you know these guys are not mentally deficient? Most guys don't come out and say they are, I would not have known the state of the guy who tried to hang himself if is real brother hadn;t played the game with him and told me. From looking at online characters you cannot tell much about a person or their past. He did not like to talk about it because he wanted to know what it would feel like to be treated like everyone else. What people consider to be "sick" when it comes to sex is purely a matter of taste. If you were incinuating sex of course it will be discussed, because that is natural between anyone in a relationship.
Funny thing is..there is a real possibility the cancer victim you gave loot to was giving you a taste of your own medicine. 2nd Month i played WOW i had a toon tell me the same thing...gave him some gold...He/She yelled "Stupid Noob LOL" and hauled ass. Sure I was pissed..then I laughed and chalked it up to experience. Didn't keep me from handing gold out or giving a low level some loot from time to time. I just have a better screening process now. Now i know some people may ...due to mental/physical/emotional impairment..be unable to make such a judgement . I know in reality, a con could care less. ..but rpg Cons should be able to screen well enough to tell the impaired from the desperate and depraved....and should never take anyone for tangible goods...thats just bullsh@T... If you're going to con someone out of real cash prizes..then at least have the balls to it in the real world where consequences are more immediate.
I also agree that it is no different than doing it in the real world, at least in the real world you have to sit there and take your consequences, your humilation, and face what you have done, rather than have the cheap " delete player/ ignore list/ log out" and they may randomly run into you later, but still you can just log out to avoid them. That is such a spineless thing to do.
I think a few people here could benefit from reading some Darwin or Gould. Some of your ideas regarding evolution are so far off, you can't ever have read either much less paid attention in science class.
Evolution is survival of the FITTEST. That means the fittest to survive in an environment. It has ZERO to do with physical strength or whether you are a feeder or food. Mostly because almost ALL life forms on this planet are BOTH feeder and food.
Being large strong feeders didn't help the dinosaurs much, eh? Yet other smaller creatures from that era survived.
That said, people who believe that preying on the weak is some evolutionary characteristic that helped man survive are 100% out to lunch. Flat out WRONG -- it's just that simple.
To promote the mindset that cons and scams are harmless is somewhat incredible to me.
Sorry, folks like that are what is wrong with the world today. When we choose to knock down the weak instead of giving them a helping hand up we are all lessened as human beings.
And I happen to be a heartless conservative to boot.
Yes natural selection is only the strongest survives, but we as human beings have been able to overcome our primative natures and treat each other with decency.
Natural selection is the best suited survives, not the best or strongest really. If someone is 7 foot built like an Ox and as smart as Einstein it wouldn't matter if they were too passive to respond to danger with more than hope for goodness in people and a change of a mugger's heart.
I did not see your post earlier about the guy who had the accident by the way, that is a very shitty thing to do to someone and one of the main reasons I don't do that myself in these games. Besides it being gross acting like that, I wouldn't wanna be the cause of someone like that or some hormone-crazed kid killing themselves over game loot. That's as retarded as the pervs badgering chicks in these games.
I do have to say that I have seen a Lot of hypocrisy in my life, and from the people that some would expect it from the least. In a way, most of us has done something to someone, or not practiced what we preach, I suppose that's a way some of the real life cons reason it. Even though the con isn't the person that was wronged, it may seem deserved to some, or justified. My own twist on the golden rule is "Do unto others as they would do unto you" That means if I take someone for a good person, I treat them well but if I know with good reason they're a prick or corrupt I don't mind avoiding them or going for a preemptive.
"Farewell remorse, all good to me is gone.. Evil, be Thou my Good."
people pulling off scams via telephone email or door to door sales on elderly people did not force them to do it either, what he is doing is no different. Conning anyone is not acceptable no matter it's form, a con is a con, and should not be condoned in any form.
Come on little lady. The people getting conned should know better. They should know they are playing a game. They should know not everything is what it seems. If they are so gulliable to fall for such a stunt, they deserve to have their heart broken. They should learn from their mistake and be smarter the next time they meet someone in a game. They should do their best to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Besides, the people doing the scamming and door to door sales work need to feed their families as well. They have to find a way to making a living.
Do you think Bill Gates got to where he is at now ONLY through ethical practices? I don't think so.
Do you think Donald Trump got to where he is at now withouth using unethical practices? Nope.
What about Mark Zuckerberg, the president/founder of facebook? Do you think he was ethical in his rise to power. No my dear, he was not.
This is a dog eat dog world Devil. A dog eat dog world.
The Troll
Deviliscious has responded respectfully. so "little lady" is a bit condescending. I've already stated my opinions on real life cons and rpg cons....but noone deserves to have a broken heart. Should they experience one?..absolutely..as painful as it may be..it is a learning experience. Scamming for a Living?....bullsh@t...no one needs to scam for a living. If anyone needs to resort to cons on a regular basis to feed there families...then they are not trying hard enough . As for Bill Gates...i'm sure he bent/broke some rules...and the guy he bought DOS from is not a multi billionaire...but I guarantee you he doesn't need to work for the rest of his life....bit off topic..sorry.
Like I said before all people are not born equal. People are not born on level playing fields. Some people are born into bad situations. Some make it out to become successful. The people born on a horrible playing field need to adapt to their situation, they need to adjust to their enviroment so they can survive. If they have to scam or trick people into getting what they want, than so be it, that is what they have to do. You do not walk in their shoes, you do not wear their clothes.
I admit it may be wrong, but in a world where everything is not equal, he or she must do what she or he as to do to survive. Believe me they are trying. They are doing their best with what they have. They are trying their best to be as creative as possible to make a profit. Do you think CEO's of major corporations care about the well being of their customers. I don't think so. All they care about is making a profit. If they die, so be it, if they are sick, hell they don't care. All they want is their dollars and their bills.
Why hasn't WoW created a support group for people who are not intelligent enough to get conned? It is because they don't care. They want their money, they want their bills. If there is such a support group, please by all means, show me the proof. I
A good way to look at America in terms of survival is the game of Poker. Sadly we've got to step on people to get ahead.
The Troll
Scamming is not necessary to live. No matter what level playing field one finds themselves. At the least one may play the odd scam to get ahead...then straighten life's needs accordingly. The problem is...those with a con mentality...rarely do this. They con...burn thru cash like a rap star..then continue this cycle in order to live outside their means...feeding on and depleting person after persons' funds like a virus. Do not presume to know what shoes i walk in..and what clothes i wear. But because of what I personally believe..I could neither maintain being a small time con nor a CEO... i'm not capable of perpetual deceit. ..am i an angel...sh#t no....ah..nevermind...i'm just ranting now.