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how is it any different if a 30 yr old male in a non GLBT guild hits on a 15 yr old boy?
Uhm...
A guild can be claimed to be a "consented" organization in the game by the Host company.
"Ladies and Gentleman of the Jury, Blizzard knowingly allowed this group, and took no steps to protect the innocent young man sitting before you. They allowed this to happen."
If an old lady can sue for hot coffee, and win, this is a slam dunk.
I think his point is questioning why you seem to associate GLBT with pedophilia?
Hmmm....
Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.
"Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
Baldwin is the executive director of the Council for National Policy in Washington, D.C.
=-= These studies are out there, people believe them, others show otherwise. REality is, you can sway a jury pretty easy. Why would a company risk a lawsuit?
and i can show you half a dozen studies which disprove this.
Also most crimes are commited by heterosexual males.....so we should ban all guilds comprised of heterosexual males because it would promote violence?
And they can keep on believing that...as long as they don't harrass someone about it.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
This Kinship is being advertised on my server and on the forums as well. Should they be banned?
HOW IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE
for the company to be at risk for a players doings?
It is not their responsibility for the player's actions.
YOU want more government eyes on us?
in our MMO's?
In our showers?
Camera's in our Cars?
In our escapes?
You seem like a commie to me.
Because that would make too much sense, apparently.
This Kinship is being advertised on my server and on the forums as well. Should they be banned?
qft
BOTTOM LINE
Don't harrass people...or else you are going to get the banhammer.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Because that would make too much sense, apparently.
Well that goes back to the "Christian guild".
if they want to appeal to one group, more than another, let them make that choice.
as a side note....i think this would be a fascinating legal discussion regarding freedom of assembly and free speech.
qft
Ok Ok Ok! They should be able to have specific guild for specific people, but if they purposely harrass someone based on whatever they are...then it should be the banhammer. Keep your opinions in Guild Chat/IRL.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
there is no freedom of speech on the internet. in MMOs, on forums, in chatrooms or anywhere else you do not have free speech,.
and freedom of assembly? erm, its an online game so I don't see how this applies.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
Can I say GTFO RL people and leave me to my fantasy world?
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That was uncalled for, those are not the beliefes of communism. Some communist gonverments have taken those steps, true, however the same can be said about Facist gonverments, and even some supposedly "democratic" ones.
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like stated above most GLBT guilds keep to themselves quite well. Most are joined by word of mouth between like minded individuals. Any guild which harrasses others should be banned, no matter if they are GLBT, christian, etc.
Because that would make too much sense, apparently.
Well that goes back to the "Christian guild".
if they want to appeal to one group, more than another, let them make that choice.
and that goes back to my original reason for posting in this thread. A company in question needs to decide whether they will allow it all, or none of it. If they have a history of banning declared GLBT-friendly guilds, then they need to be fair and follow up by banning [religion]-friendly advertisement.
This is why I maintain the only way for Blizzard or any company to win is to not play favorites at all, and ban any form of singling out protected status for guild recruitment messages posted on company-owned forums or in their game. Race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. Maybe not outright bans of course, warnings first. But that really is all dependent on whatever system of bans/infractions they have in place.
It's perfectly reasonable for a guild to advertise as 'open-minded' and suggest going to their website to read more about them. In fact, it's probably the best way to do it without making themselves a target for trolls.
there is no freedom of speech on the internet. in MMOs, on forums, in chatrooms or anywhere else you do not have free speech,.
and freedom of assembly? erm, its an online game so I don't see how this applies.
that's why i said it would be interesting
cause technically it is an assembly of people gathering for a social function......
That was uncalled for, those are not the beliefes of communism. Some communist gonverments have taken those steps, true, however the same can be said about Facist gonverments, and even some supposedly "democratic" ones.
ahem *cough*
i am sorry for that,
it just gets to me when other's try to violate the few rights we are given.
like stated above most GLBT guilds keep to themselves quite well. Most are joined by word of mouth between like minded individuals. Any guild which harrasses others should be banned, no matter if they are GLBT, christian, etc.
I agree, I don't mind GLBT Guilds, Religious Guilds, Guilds that believe in the occult (there's one in my server as well) as long as they keep to themselves and don't impose their believes/ideas on me.
I want to be a politician...so please debate. Hearing other people's views is facinating to me.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
there is no freedom of speech on the internet. in MMOs, on forums, in chatrooms or anywhere else you do not have free speech,.
and freedom of assembly? erm, its an online game so I don't see how this applies.
that's why i said it would be interesting
cause technically it is an assembly of people gathering for a social function......
Freedom of assembly only applies to government intervention. Private entities can deny any sort of assembly they please, I.E. shopping malls wallmarts resturants and video games.
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"Capitalism is currently working as intended."
there is no freedom of speech on the internet. in MMOs, on forums, in chatrooms or anywhere else you do not have free speech,.
and freedom of assembly? erm, its an online game so I don't see how this applies.
that's why i said it would be interesting
cause technically it is an assembly of people gathering for a social function......
Freedom of assembly only applies to government intervention. Private entities can deny any sort of assembly they please, I.E. shopping malls wallmarts resturants and video games.
but picketing, strikes, and boycotts are legal.......so far as they do not impose upon an individuals rights.
That was uncalled for, those are not the beliefes of communism. Some communist gonverments have taken those steps, true, however the same can be said about Facist gonverments, and even some supposedly "democratic" ones.
ahem *cough*
i am sorry for that,
it just gets to me when other's try to violate the few rights we are given.
It's not problem, I'm not offended, i'm not a communist. I was just pointing that out so that people are not ill-informed about the tenets of communism.
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"Capitalism is currently working as intended."
qft
Online games are private property. Therefore, have no freedom of assembly or free speech, which only applies to a public forum. This is why you can't walk into Wal-Mart to start a demonstration. You'd quickly be arrested. Not much of a discussion.
there is no freedom of speech on the internet. in MMOs, on forums, in chatrooms or anywhere else you do not have free speech,.
and freedom of assembly? erm, its an online game so I don't see how this applies.
that's why i said it would be interesting
cause technically it is an assembly of people gathering for a social function......
Freedom of assembly only applies to government intervention. Private entities can deny any sort of assembly they please, I.E. shopping malls wallmarts resturants and video games.
I think if a company allows Religious Guilds and whatnot but doesn't allow GLBT (friendly) Guilds, that's discrimination. If I'm not mistaken even if its a private company, discrimination is against the law if you are providing a paid service for everyone and not just a select few.
Of course this is my opinion and I may be completely wrong.