There are a lot of stupid people who will buy this expansion regardless of the current state of the game, and regardless of them adding what they orginally promised.
Warhammer will make the same announcement 6 months after launch, announcing the readding of the 4 cities and 4 classes that they cut, along with the removal of the level reward advancement system, real world siege and castle sieges, and all the other promised crap.
Man im glad star wars the force unleashed, fable 2, endwar, naruto ninja storm, red alert 3, and a lot of other single player games are coming out in the next 2 months, because mmo are a sad fucking dissapointment these days.
QFE,I thought even warhammer might be different, however last night I found out those who tested endgame "elders" Are still under NDA and It will never be removed.Anyone passing around info that Mythic is handling stuff different is full of it.
Dude pretty much all the information you could want is available and not under the NDA right now.
Essentially the elders are probably just testing stuff a patch ahead or who knows what. You know that even games like WoW have people internally that test a patch before information is released to the public, right? This is nothing new except that elder testers aren't all working internally.
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Lol. you aren t serious are you?
Its exactly how funcom handled Beta , However that doesn't mean it will be a bad game . I just won't buy it without knowing what to expect first . Made that mistake far to many times already , I've concluded for myself beta sources can't be trusted . For now on I'll wait until 2-3 months in to buy anything , Crap AOC had raving reviews on every major site in the first week , look how that turned out.
As for your comment can you point out anything different ? I'd be glad to hear it .
Just so you know here's the letter to elder testers after they raised the NDA .
[quote]2) The Elder Test Servers (ETS) are still fully covered the confidentiality provisions contained within the BTA. You may not talk about your experiences on the ETS at any time, even after launch, unless you hear otherwise from Mythic. This applies to all content/systems/etc. that differs in any way from the content/systems on the non-ETS. In the case of content/systems that are EXACTLY the same on the ETS and the non-ETS and you make no reference in your disclosure about the Elder Test Servers you may talk about the content/systems/etc. We?e giving you folks a little latitude here since we have so many Elder testers but please don? take advantage of it.[/quote]
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There are a lot of stupid people who will buy this expansion regardless of the current state of the game, and regardless of them adding what they orginally promised.
Warhammer will make the same announcement 6 months after launch, announcing the readding of the 4 cities and 4 classes that they cut, along with the removal of the level reward advancement system, real world siege and castle sieges, and all the other promised crap.
Man im glad star wars the force unleashed, fable 2, endwar, naruto ninja storm, red alert 3, and a lot of other single player games are coming out in the next 2 months, because mmo are a sad fucking dissapointment these days.
QFE,I thought even warhammer might be different, however last night I found out those who tested endgame "elders" Are still under NDA and It will never be removed.Anyone passing around info that Mythic is handling stuff different is full of it.
Dude pretty much all the information you could want is available and not under the NDA right now.
Essentially the elders are probably just testing stuff a patch ahead or who knows what. You know that even games like WoW have people internally that test a patch before information is released to the public, right? This is nothing new except that elder testers aren't all working internally.
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Except that we can see for our own eyes the T4 content WORKING. We did not have any proof of sieges working and testers didn't even test them.
Sorry but you are comparing two totally different things here dude. The entire NDA is removed, the elder testers are just separate. Anything a person would want to know can be answered by beta testers currently. T1-T4 content.
The elder testers ,core testers what ever you want to call them , Can't say anything about what they've seen. That's my point , Why so defensive about a fact ? you would think I said Warhammer sucks because AOC sucked ,I didn't . It just worries me, Not to mention no mass testing of anything past tier 2 .
AOC was worse in the secrecy department that's obvious , however I've never joined an open beta that I couldn't play the whole game in .
I asked about endgame and was told only elders know anything about that and they can't answer those questions.Then the thread was drowned in a thousand this is the best game EVA!!! posts .Pardon me for letting people know what I was told.
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Originally posted by Malickiebloo lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting . open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check. Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check. Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
It is a bit odd, isn't it? The devs for most of these games must attend the same lectures or hire the same outside consultants. Sometimes they seem to be following the same playbook.
I often wonder how many lame design and business decisions in this industry are the result of some high paid consultant who could never actually design a top title, but for some reason is accepted as an "expert".
"Hey umm... guys? Where is all of the stuff that was promised?" "What are you talking about?" "You know, working sieges with hundreds upon hundreds of people, DX10, balanced classes, an end game, items that worked, glitch free--" "Woah woah woah, we never promised any of that!" "Yeah you kinda di---" "No no no, just look at the water! It's AMAZING how much detail we put into it! And we have 17,000 different versions of grass!" "Wait, what about all the---" "And our combat! You can dodge, duck, evade, all that cool stuff!" "But the combat doesn't even wor--" "We have had over a billion people buy our boxes!! IT'S AMAZING!!" And so on. Three months later... "Hey dude, what's up? We haven't seen you for like 2 and a half months!" "Well, that's because I quit." "What, why would you ever want to quit AoC?" "Well, first of all you flat out lied about the game for cheap box sales, and secondly you don't even listen to your custo--" "No worries, dude! We're making an expansion that will be sure to BLOW YOUR HEAD UP! That's right, BLOW IT ALL OFF! GORE!!! BOOBS! ALL CAPS!! AMAZZING!!" "There is little gore and boobs in this game..." "We're adding it in NOW!! And this time, we'll also bring in DX10!!! SIEGES!!! MAJOR GAME FIXES!!! END-GAME CONTENT!!! AAAAMMMMAAAZZZIINNNNGGG!!!" "WHAT!?!? You promised this stuff at release and you guys are trying to sell it off in an expan--" "JUST 50 BUCKS AND IT'S ALL YOURS!! GORE AND BOOBIES!!! ALL CAPS! BECOME THE KING!!! AMAZING!!!" "..."
Awww dang another one, you guys got me in tears.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I've played many, many MMOs and games. Funcom is grossly incompetent and one of the worst in history, if not the worst. I will never give them another penny again. They are manipulative, dishonest, and the worst. I will laugh out loud and do the robot on cardboard for a full 2 minutes when they go bankrupt.
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Funcom: "We know our game is in a beta state, but we can promise a full game soon" Players: "When and how?" Funcom: " Once in 2009, and you just have to buy our new expansion" Players: "What does it contain?" Funcom: " All the thing we promised when AoC HA was released, pvp experience, DX10, battles with 300vs300 and the list go on, and now we have experienced that its the best to keep our promises"
lol I was thinking along the lines of:
FC: "We are proud to announce our first expansion - "Age of Conan - Hyborea Reloaded"
Players: "Wait... "Reloaded?"
FC: "Indeed! The Matrix! Pop culture reference! Clever, huh? We're pretty hip like that."
Players: "Errr... so what's new about it?"
FC: "Oh... well that's simple. When we considered the amount of content we failed to implement for the original launch, we realized, "Hey, there's easily enough here to warrant an expansion pack. Why not do that... Just finish up what we'd originally promised in the game and release that. Then we can have our PR go spin happy and run with it..."
Players: "So... you're charging us - again - for content we were supposed to get in the first place"
FC: "Well... it is alot of content... You don't expect us to just *give* it to you, now do you? (incredulous laugh)"
Players: "Well... then it's not really an expansion.. You're trying to milk us"
FC: "Of COURSE it's an expansion, silly player... It's a new box.. new artwork... different bullet points... It's a whole new package. What would you call it?"
Player: "A re-release"
Another Player: "A rip-off"
FC: "Hmm..." -Players Banned-
Fanboys, in unison: "HOORAY!!!"
FC: "Now then... where were we? Ahh yes... Announcing our first retail expansion! All new content!..."
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Well funcom obviously can't keep subscriptions up on such a shitty game. They make the money off the initial purchase of the box, so by making the expansion it will luer newer people into buying both the original and the expansion before they can even test the shitty game out. It is brilliant.
After Anarchy Online fiasco Funcom's expensions made a lot of impact and lots of those "trolls" which claimed I would never buy another Funcom product did infact bought expensions and were playing AO for several years. p.s. Not saying that will happen to age of conan.
They're hoping against hope that the next expansion will restore the game back to what originally made them want to play in teh first place.
It's like the girlfriend who keeps thinking "If I just give him one more chance... maybe he'll change..." only to end up with another black eye a couple weeks later.
It's a flaw of human nature.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I find it hilarious to hear they are announcing an expansion pack already before even fixing core issues.
Oh well.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Except that we can see for our own eyes the T4 content WORKING. We did not have any proof of sieges working and testers didn't even test them.
Sorry but you are comparing two totally different things here dude. The entire NDA is removed, the elder testers are just separate. Anything a person would want to know can be answered by beta testers currently. T1-T4 content.
The elder testers ,core testers what ever you want to call them , Can't say anything about what they've seen. That's my point , Why so defensive about a fact ? you would think I said Warhammer sucks because AOC sucked ,I didn't . It just worries me, Not to mention no mass testing of anything past tier 2 .
AOC was worse in the secrecy department that's obvious , however I've never joined an open beta that I couldn't play the whole game in .
I asked about endgame and was told only elders know anything about that and they can't answer those questions.Then the thread was drowned in a thousand this is the best game EVA!!! posts .Pardon me for letting people know what I was told.
Again we can play with the semantics however we want, but the fact is that personally I am seeing a pattern. Yes, mythic is way more open about it, and there is tons of more material floating arround but still, they are not alowing players into the majority of the game and they have a closed part of the beta inspite everything they said, the NDA is only partially down.
Not saying at all that WAR will be good or bad, in fact I think it will probably be good, but I'm amazed at the amount of players who didn't learn anything from the horrid way AOC turned out and they are already flocking in masses pre-ordering WAR, rushing to give their money away before they know what they are buying - really - no wonder the game companies keep shafting us gamers - we fully support it with a smile!
I will definitely try out WAR, my interest is sparked, but I certanly learned my lesson and I'm not paying for anything anyone says its there. I'm going to sit it out and wait for a couple of months and see how it turns out, not because I can't afford it, but because I refuse to support any more half baked products with my money.
AOC had raving good reviews everywhere across the net so I'm not betting a single dime on any info floating arround untill the dust settles a bit.
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Except that we can see for our own eyes the T4 content WORKING. We did not have any proof of sieges working and testers didn't even test them.
Sorry but you are comparing two totally different things here dude. The entire NDA is removed, the elder testers are just separate. Anything a person would want to know can be answered by beta testers currently. T1-T4 content.
The elder testers ,core testers what ever you want to call them , Can't say anything about what they've seen. That's my point , Why so defensive about a fact ? you would think I said Warhammer sucks because AOC sucked ,I didn't . It just worries me, Not to mention no mass testing of anything past tier 2 .
AOC was worse in the secrecy department that's obvious , however I've never joined an open beta that I couldn't play the whole game in .
I asked about endgame and was told only elders know anything about that and they can't answer those questions.Then the thread was drowned in a thousand this is the best game EVA!!! posts .Pardon me for letting people know what I was told.
Again we can play with the semantics however we want, but the fact is that personally I am seeing a pattern. Yes, mythic is way more open about it, and there is tons of more material floating arround but still, they are not alowing players into the majority of the game and they have a closed part of the beta inspite everything they said, the NDA is only partially down.
Not saying at all that WAR will be good or bad, in fact I think it will probably be good, but I'm amazed at the amount of players who didn't learn anything from the horrid way AOC turned out and they are already flocking in masses pre-ordering WAR, rushing to give their money away before they know what they are buying - really - no wonder the game companies keep shafting us gamers - we fully support it with a smile!
I will definitely try out WAR, my interest is sparked, but I certanly learned my lesson and I'm not paying for anything anyone says its there. I'm going to sit it out and wait for a couple of months and see how it turns out, not because I can't afford it, but because I refuse to support any more half baked products with my money.
AOC had raving good reviews everywhere across the net so I'm not betting a single dime on any info floating arround untill the dust settles a bit.
Amen man, Amen :
Your post is the mirror image to my thoughts about this. ,I think I'm just sticking to indie titles for now on TBH .
I may or may not check out WAR , I was a fan of DAOC , So I have a bit of faith in mythic, not enough to blindly spend any more cash on crap though.The last MMO I really played before AOC was SWG , I couldn't bring myself to buy another one after that for quite a long time , I played eve but that wasn't a 50$+ purchase(a tad different IMO).
Purchasing AOC was pretty much the nail in the coffin for me.
Now they want me to spend more money on broken nonexistent content .
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How can they already be thinking expansion pack. Instead of adding new content now and fixing bugs to get and keep players they are thinking ahead. How arrogant are these guys and how dumb can they be?
Funcom has revealed a teaser image for the first expansion pack for its MMO Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures, which it expects to release in 2009. The concept art shows three ninja-like warriors wearing green masks with a strongly oriental look. In the background are green banners decorated with dragons, and pagoda-like buildings. Funcom refused to comment further on the image - but the prominent oriental stylings suggest that the expansion will take players to the land of Khitai, Conan author Robert E. Howard's version of China in the Hyborian Age. The image will be officially released tomorrow.
No way the few people still in denial about Failcom can make the cost of this viable, but hey it's Failcom and making a profit seems to mean nothing to them LOL.
A $6 million loss in q2 (launch sales included) and lowest stock price since going public says alot about a company.
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is funcom still get some brain will make that expansion free
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Wait, this is real? This game is still in Beta stages, and they're talking about an expansion pack? LOL!
For all you sports fans out there, I thought this would apply nicely here.
How can you talk about an XPAC when we can't even do the basics right!? XPac? XPAC?!?!?
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Ill be waiting in line at midnight for this expansion!!
I guess they hired those fired Sigil employees, heh.
Dude pretty much all the information you could want is available and not under the NDA right now.
Essentially the elders are probably just testing stuff a patch ahead or who knows what. You know that even games like WoW have people internally that test a patch before information is released to the public, right? This is nothing new except that elder testers aren't all working internally.
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Lol. you aren t serious are you?
Its exactly how funcom handled Beta , However that doesn't mean it will be a bad game . I just won't buy it without knowing what to expect first . Made that mistake far to many times already , I've concluded for myself beta sources can't be trusted . For now on I'll wait until 2-3 months in to buy anything , Crap AOC had raving reviews on every major site in the first week , look how that turned out.
As for your comment can you point out anything different ? I'd be glad to hear it .
Just so you know here's the letter to elder testers after they raised the NDA .
[quote]2) The Elder Test Servers (ETS) are still fully covered the confidentiality provisions contained within the BTA. You may not talk about your experiences on the ETS at any time, even after launch, unless you hear otherwise from Mythic. This applies to all content/systems/etc. that differs in any way from the content/systems on the non-ETS. In the case of content/systems that are EXACTLY the same on the ETS and the non-ETS and you make no reference in your disclosure about the Elder Test Servers you may talk about the content/systems/etc. We?e giving you folks a little latitude here since we have so many Elder testers but please don? take advantage of it.[/quote]
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
QFE,I thought even warhammer might be different, however last night I found out those who tested endgame "elders" Are still under NDA and It will never be removed.Anyone passing around info that Mythic is handling stuff different is full of it.
Dude pretty much all the information you could want is available and not under the NDA right now.
Essentially the elders are probably just testing stuff a patch ahead or who knows what. You know that even games like WoW have people internally that test a patch before information is released to the public, right? This is nothing new except that elder testers aren't all working internally.
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Except that we can see for our own eyes the T4 content WORKING. We did not have any proof of sieges working and testers didn't even test them.
Sorry but you are comparing two totally different things here dude. The entire NDA is removed, the elder testers are just separate. Anything a person would want to know can be answered by beta testers currently. T1-T4 content.
The elder testers ,core testers what ever you want to call them , Can't say anything about what they've seen. That's my point , Why so defensive about a fact ? you would think I said Warhammer sucks because AOC sucked ,I didn't . It just worries me, Not to mention no mass testing of anything past tier 2 .
AOC was worse in the secrecy department that's obvious , however I've never joined an open beta that I couldn't play the whole game in .
I asked about endgame and was told only elders know anything about that and they can't answer those questions.Then the thread was drowned in a thousand this is the best game EVA!!! posts .Pardon me for letting people know what I was told.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Wow I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
It is a bit odd, isn't it? The devs for most of these games must attend the same lectures or hire the same outside consultants. Sometimes they seem to be following the same playbook.
I often wonder how many lame design and business decisions in this industry are the result of some high paid consultant who could never actually design a top title, but for some reason is accepted as an "expert".
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Awww dang another one, you guys got me in tears.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I've played many, many MMOs and games. Funcom is grossly incompetent and one of the worst in history, if not the worst. I will never give them another penny again. They are manipulative, dishonest, and the worst. I will laugh out loud and do the robot on cardboard for a full 2 minutes when they go bankrupt.
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lol I was thinking along the lines of:
FC: "We are proud to announce our first expansion - "Age of Conan - Hyborea Reloaded"
Players: "Wait... "Reloaded?"
FC: "Indeed! The Matrix! Pop culture reference! Clever, huh? We're pretty hip like that."
Players: "Errr... so what's new about it?"
FC: "Oh... well that's simple. When we considered the amount of content we failed to implement for the original launch, we realized, "Hey, there's easily enough here to warrant an expansion pack. Why not do that... Just finish up what we'd originally promised in the game and release that. Then we can have our PR go spin happy and run with it..."
Players: "So... you're charging us - again - for content we were supposed to get in the first place"
FC: "Well... it is alot of content... You don't expect us to just *give* it to you, now do you? (incredulous laugh)"
Players: "Well... then it's not really an expansion.. You're trying to milk us"
FC: "Of COURSE it's an expansion, silly player... It's a new box.. new artwork... different bullet points... It's a whole new package. What would you call it?"
Player: "A re-release"
Another Player: "A rip-off"
FC: "Hmm..." -Players Banned-
Fanboys, in unison: "HOORAY!!!"
FC: "Now then... where were we? Ahh yes... Announcing our first retail expansion! All new content!..."
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Well funcom obviously can't keep subscriptions up on such a shitty game. They make the money off the initial purchase of the box, so by making the expansion it will luer newer people into buying both the original and the expansion before they can even test the shitty game out. It is brilliant.
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They're hoping against hope that the next expansion will restore the game back to what originally made them want to play in teh first place.
It's like the girlfriend who keeps thinking "If I just give him one more chance... maybe he'll change..." only to end up with another black eye a couple weeks later.
It's a flaw of human nature.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I find it hilarious to hear they are announcing an expansion pack already before even fixing core issues.
Oh well.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Except that we can see for our own eyes the T4 content WORKING. We did not have any proof of sieges working and testers didn't even test them.
Sorry but you are comparing two totally different things here dude. The entire NDA is removed, the elder testers are just separate. Anything a person would want to know can be answered by beta testers currently. T1-T4 content.
The elder testers ,core testers what ever you want to call them , Can't say anything about what they've seen. That's my point , Why so defensive about a fact ? you would think I said Warhammer sucks because AOC sucked ,I didn't . It just worries me, Not to mention no mass testing of anything past tier 2 .
AOC was worse in the secrecy department that's obvious , however I've never joined an open beta that I couldn't play the whole game in .
I asked about endgame and was told only elders know anything about that and they can't answer those questions.Then the thread was drowned in a thousand this is the best game EVA!!! posts .Pardon me for letting people know what I was told.
Again we can play with the semantics however we want, but the fact is that personally I am seeing a pattern. Yes, mythic is way more open about it, and there is tons of more material floating arround but still, they are not alowing players into the majority of the game and they have a closed part of the beta inspite everything they said, the NDA is only partially down.
Not saying at all that WAR will be good or bad, in fact I think it will probably be good, but I'm amazed at the amount of players who didn't learn anything from the horrid way AOC turned out and they are already flocking in masses pre-ordering WAR, rushing to give their money away before they know what they are buying - really - no wonder the game companies keep shafting us gamers - we fully support it with a smile!
I will definitely try out WAR, my interest is sparked, but I certanly learned my lesson and I'm not paying for anything anyone says its there. I'm going to sit it out and wait for a couple of months and see how it turns out, not because I can't afford it, but because I refuse to support any more half baked products with my money.
AOC had raving good reviews everywhere across the net so I'm not betting a single dime on any info floating arround untill the dust settles a bit.
lets look at it in comparison to AOC , The only thing different is Mythic announced what they were cutting .
open beta only available for tier 1 and 2 testing ? Check.
Multiple groups of testers , Partial NDA removal? Check.
Mass praising without knowing the whole story ? Check
Everything else is heresay , We know what we're allowed to know , As are most testers . There's nothing different here.
Except that we can see for our own eyes the T4 content WORKING. We did not have any proof of sieges working and testers didn't even test them.
Sorry but you are comparing two totally different things here dude. The entire NDA is removed, the elder testers are just separate. Anything a person would want to know can be answered by beta testers currently. T1-T4 content.
The elder testers ,core testers what ever you want to call them , Can't say anything about what they've seen. That's my point , Why so defensive about a fact ? you would think I said Warhammer sucks because AOC sucked ,I didn't . It just worries me, Not to mention no mass testing of anything past tier 2 .
AOC was worse in the secrecy department that's obvious , however I've never joined an open beta that I couldn't play the whole game in .
I asked about endgame and was told only elders know anything about that and they can't answer those questions.Then the thread was drowned in a thousand this is the best game EVA!!! posts .Pardon me for letting people know what I was told.
Again we can play with the semantics however we want, but the fact is that personally I am seeing a pattern. Yes, mythic is way more open about it, and there is tons of more material floating arround but still, they are not alowing players into the majority of the game and they have a closed part of the beta inspite everything they said, the NDA is only partially down.
Not saying at all that WAR will be good or bad, in fact I think it will probably be good, but I'm amazed at the amount of players who didn't learn anything from the horrid way AOC turned out and they are already flocking in masses pre-ordering WAR, rushing to give their money away before they know what they are buying - really - no wonder the game companies keep shafting us gamers - we fully support it with a smile!
I will definitely try out WAR, my interest is sparked, but I certanly learned my lesson and I'm not paying for anything anyone says its there. I'm going to sit it out and wait for a couple of months and see how it turns out, not because I can't afford it, but because I refuse to support any more half baked products with my money.
AOC had raving good reviews everywhere across the net so I'm not betting a single dime on any info floating arround untill the dust settles a bit.
Amen man, Amen :
Your post is the mirror image to my thoughts about this. ,I think I'm just sticking to indie titles for now on TBH .
I may or may not check out WAR , I was a fan of DAOC , So I have a bit of faith in mythic, not enough to blindly spend any more cash on crap though.The last MMO I really played before AOC was SWG , I couldn't bring myself to buy another one after that for quite a long time , I played eve but that wasn't a 50$+ purchase(a tad different IMO).
Purchasing AOC was pretty much the nail in the coffin for me.
Now they want me to spend more money on broken nonexistent content .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The expansion pack will come sooner than later. Funcom will need something to give a plausible foundation to its future revenue predictions.
Lit
How can they already be thinking expansion pack. Instead of adding new content now and fixing bugs to get and keep players they are thinking ahead. How arrogant are these guys and how dumb can they be?
Who let you in the VIP section?
Wow talk about being kicked in the face.
www.eurogamer.net/article.php
expects to release in 2009
this was also announced in July at E3 for early 2009,
but the date was claimed to be a misquote
www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
EQ2 fan sites
sorry but to all the fail com avatar posters...your credability is shot to pieces whenever i see that horrible brown image.
as for the expansion...i dont like the oriental side of AoC. i would have much rather seen the tropical jungles of the south
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
No way the few people still in denial about Failcom can make the cost of this viable, but hey it's Failcom and making a profit seems to mean nothing to them LOL.
A $6 million loss in q2 (launch sales included) and lowest stock price since going public says alot about a company.
Hehe, there seems to always be something to hate, last week it was SOE now it's Funcom, guess it's more fun to hate then to like something.
Now I'm not saying that I like or disslike Funcom (or SOE) I don't like lot's of promises that don't being held either.
and you sir are the type i care wish not to speak with so good day and take it with you
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
The Failcom symbol is Red and white.
AoC must have burned out part of your retina since they only use shades of brown, white, green and blue LOL.