Eventually after being yelled at enough, these people are going to realize maybe they shouldn't be playing one of the few healer classes if they don't want to heal.
This is been happening since day one of these classes being introduced in beta, trust me it's not going to change.
Eventually after being yelled at enough, these people are going to realize maybe they shouldn't be playing one of the few healer classes if they don't want to heal.
This is been happening since day one of these classes being introduced in beta, trust me it's not going to change.
Exactly...... More fish for us Sharks
Don't really see where you are going with this other than trying to turn this into a flame fest, you don't get any Kudos for stoking the fire Shard.
Eventually after being yelled at enough, these people are going to realize maybe they shouldn't be playing one of the few healer classes if they don't want to heal.
This is been happening since day one of these classes being introduced in beta, trust me it's not going to change.
Exactly...... More fish for us Sharks
Don't really see where you are going with this other than trying to turn this into a flame fest, you don't get any Kudos for stoking the fire Shard.
Only 4% of the Warhammer Online playerbase won't be fish.
Healing is a tough subject. Everyone expects the healer to heal them but in reality healing everyone usually ends with everyone dead since 1 person will be focused and die without a constant stream of heals.
DoK/WP cannot sustain heals unless in melee range OR they use the channel to get more essence to heal. If they channel most likely you die by the time its done or they cut channel and run out of essence while its on cooldown. If they go into melee generally they get focused and die. Only in low tiers can they survive with 5-6 people on them and ONLY with the top tier of gear. In later levels they splat pretty quick. It takes about 4-5 heals(dots, shields, etc) to run out of essence and most of the time we are spamming them on ourselves to stay alive.
You also probably die to fast for them to 1. recognize you need heals 2. Get a 1-3s heal off. A hot almost never stops someone from dying. WP/DoK attack to heal. Archmage/shaman attack to heal better/faster, and runepriests/zealots generally healbot the biggest baddest thing on the field.
BTW might I suggest that you do your job and monitor your dark magic so you don't blow yourself up? When I have to stop to heal a sorcerer/bw someone else dies and then complains about no heals. Do these glass cannons not realize they are getting others killed? DO YOUR JOB!
Interesting topic. I plan on rolling a Zealot, I have always played healers and I enjoy it very much. WAR will be my first pvp centric game. In my experience in other MMO's you always had people in pvp scenarios screaming for heals but when it came time to protect their healers they were too busy to do so. Or they simply didnt bother. Let's not even get into the BGs in WOW. In fact I have had case recently where the tank defending a flag with me actually RAN BEHIND me to avoid some incoming Hordies. 30 secs later as I was near death he sends me a tell begging for heals.
I cant remark on the WAR beta some of you are going thru now but again in my experience, healers are not protected in akot of PVP scenarios so perhaps many have adopted the attitude of every man for themsleves? /shrug And remember, alot of people role helaer types to help out their gaming buddies or to ensure they can get a group, I have found that there are VERY few people that love playing healers. THere are usually other reasons involved.
I haven't played the beta but based on my own mmo experience I'd say if a healing class isn't doing any healing *at all* then they're either completely clueless about what their class is meant to do or a very bad player. Or both.
If someone was just completely anti-social that could be another reason, but you might expect they would not pick a healing class if that were the case...
One of the constants that I have ran into in scenarios and most open-world RvR events is that most healers simply do not heal. I do not understand why this is really.
Now I know WAR is a WoW clone
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Biggest fault of AoC and Warhammer, healers which can do dmg. When a standard MMO player can decide between healing and damaging, he will dps. Vote for heal only healers!
Melee-Healers rock when played right....people just don't know to play them correctly yet! In time they will as I have leaned how!
Posted 2 videos of the DoK and WP and how they work....you can dominate in Scenarios if you play like/similar to this! These careers are far from a main healer but you can keep many allies alive for a long time, while dishing out enough dmg to win in most situations!
DL and watch them...they are really good and show players how to play these careers! ...and yes this is me, I know how to play a healer career damn well as demonstrated; so if you ever play with me you will get healed and you will dominate!
It sucks that healers don't heal. But you can't expect every healing class near you to heal you. Some people don't play the game to be healbots, healers have offensive capabilities and some people rather use those abilities.
If you are in an organized guild or group, it might be a different story.
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This is been happening since day one of these classes being introduced in beta, trust me it's not going to change.
Exactly...... More fish for us Sharks
This is been happening since day one of these classes being introduced in beta, trust me it's not going to change.
Exactly...... More fish for us Sharks
Don't really see where you are going with this other than trying to turn this into a flame fest, you don't get any Kudos for stoking the fire Shard.
This is been happening since day one of these classes being introduced in beta, trust me it's not going to change.
Exactly...... More fish for us Sharks
Don't really see where you are going with this other than trying to turn this into a flame fest, you don't get any Kudos for stoking the fire Shard.
Only 4% of the Warhammer Online playerbase won't be fish.
Good luck with that!
Healing is a tough subject. Everyone expects the healer to heal them but in reality healing everyone usually ends with everyone dead since 1 person will be focused and die without a constant stream of heals.
DoK/WP cannot sustain heals unless in melee range OR they use the channel to get more essence to heal. If they channel most likely you die by the time its done or they cut channel and run out of essence while its on cooldown. If they go into melee generally they get focused and die. Only in low tiers can they survive with 5-6 people on them and ONLY with the top tier of gear. In later levels they splat pretty quick. It takes about 4-5 heals(dots, shields, etc) to run out of essence and most of the time we are spamming them on ourselves to stay alive.
You also probably die to fast for them to 1. recognize you need heals 2. Get a 1-3s heal off. A hot almost never stops someone from dying. WP/DoK attack to heal. Archmage/shaman attack to heal better/faster, and runepriests/zealots generally healbot the biggest baddest thing on the field.
BTW might I suggest that you do your job and monitor your dark magic so you don't blow yourself up? When I have to stop to heal a sorcerer/bw someone else dies and then complains about no heals. Do these glass cannons not realize they are getting others killed? DO YOUR JOB!
Interesting topic. I plan on rolling a Zealot, I have always played healers and I enjoy it very much. WAR will be my first pvp centric game. In my experience in other MMO's you always had people in pvp scenarios screaming for heals but when it came time to protect their healers they were too busy to do so. Or they simply didnt bother. Let's not even get into the BGs in WOW. In fact I have had case recently where the tank defending a flag with me actually RAN BEHIND me to avoid some incoming Hordies. 30 secs later as I was near death he sends me a tell begging for heals.
I cant remark on the WAR beta some of you are going thru now but again in my experience, healers are not protected in akot of PVP scenarios so perhaps many have adopted the attitude of every man for themsleves? /shrug And remember, alot of people role helaer types to help out their gaming buddies or to ensure they can get a group, I have found that there are VERY few people that love playing healers. THere are usually other reasons involved.
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I haven't played the beta but based on my own mmo experience I'd say if a healing class isn't doing any healing *at all* then they're either completely clueless about what their class is meant to do or a very bad player. Or both.
If someone was just completely anti-social that could be another reason, but you might expect they would not pick a healing class if that were the case...
Dude, you underestimate Shamans .. Good players will do what it takes when and where its needed to win.
Shaman is a good example of a very nice Hybrid healer/dps. Tons of utility to especialy if you have 4-6 of them across 2 grps.
WAR has no decent crowd control fuctions.
result is that the ONLY way to win a fight in RvR is through healing.
Bigger healed group always wins: .....zergfest driven.
That's the result of having absolutly NO cylcone, blind, stun, fear, sheep ... and about all those other effects we play with in that "other game".
Now I know WAR is a WoW clone
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Biggest fault of AoC and Warhammer, healers which can do dmg. When a standard MMO player can decide between healing and damaging, he will dps.
Vote for heal only healers!
Melee-Healers rock when played right....people just don't know to play them correctly yet! In time they will as I have leaned how!
Posted 2 videos of the DoK and WP and how they work....you can dominate in Scenarios if you play like/similar to this! These careers are far from a main healer but you can keep many allies alive for a long time, while dishing out enough dmg to win in most situations!
DL and watch them...they are really good and show players how to play these careers! ...and yes this is me, I know how to play a healer career damn well as demonstrated; so if you ever play with me you will get healed and you will dominate!
To the OP
It sucks that healers don't heal. But you can't expect every healing class near you to heal you. Some people don't play the game to be healbots, healers have offensive capabilities and some people rather use those abilities.
If you are in an organized guild or group, it might be a different story.
yesterday made a shaman for rvr and played a while
if say healers dont heal look at this also show that shamans are a good hybrid class
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