- Unfortunately, a new bug (well an old bug we fixed and then managed to break again) which allowed Rank 10 RR 6 players can go to Tier 2 to get better gear and then come back to Tier 1 and own scenarios. We are currently working on a fix. -- some Mythic talking head You may bring me a cookie now. Mythic agrees with me.
You weren't talking about the Tier 2 armor tho. Thats the problem. You were talking about the Renown rank 6 gear and how that should be a twink in which it isnt.
You werent even talking about the armor bug where tier one renown people were wearing teir 2.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Enigma said: You weren't talking about the Tier 2 armor tho. Thats the problem. You were talking about the Renown rank 6 gear and how that should be a twink in which it isnt.
You werent even talking about the armor bug where tier one renown people were wearing teir 2.
Dammmmmmmmmmmm!
You mean those twinks could've even been twinkier? lol
even rr4 gear compared to gear you'll get till lvl 10-11 is great IMHO... and costs some 40s i think to buy...by the time i was lvl 11 i had 1.7g from just doing scenarios and quests in the world... and you get a lot more if you do rvr and the rvr quests...
and "go after the healer"... i had marauders bash at my rune priest constantly while i had my 2 hots up and kinda spammed my instant heal... while i just waited for someone to come and help out... and also had time to throw a hot on someone else from time to time... and 2 rune priests doing their job can keep ANYONE alive for a LONG LONG time... 4 hots... instant healing... and using the morale ability when it gets bad... it works wonders...
If it looks like a twink, walks like a twink and acts like a twink, it's a twink.
When people are done with their mains and start rolling alts, they are going to buy the twink gear for their alts. The only thing I see limiting this over powered gear is the fact that it's expensive.
The money twink gear costs will mean nothing to level 40 mains.
If it looks like a twink, walks like a twink and acts like a twink, it's a twink. When people are done with their mains and start rolling alts, they are going to buy the twink gear for their alts. The only thing I see limiting this over powered gear is the fact that it's expensive. The money twink gear costs will mean nothing to level 40 mains.
If it looks like a twink, walks like a twink and acts like a twink, it's a twink. When people are done with their mains and start rolling alts, they are going to buy the twink gear for their alts. The only thing I see limiting this over powered gear is the fact that it's expensive. The money twink gear costs will mean nothing to level 40 mains.
the money it cost for a set of T2 gear is easily earned. Twinks are generally decked out in the best gear which takes alot of farming or money to buy...this wasn't the case. You get to rank 10 renown rank 6 and take your lazy ass to the T2 keep owned by your realm and purchase this gear.
If they remove it then this leave alot of room for twinking. As it stands right now anyone can put forth minimal effort and get this gear. Once removed or inaccessable to T1 players then the lvl 10/11 blues and purples(world drop) will make a player god like and this will be sought after by players wanting to twink.
you have to take into account the whole picture, not just what's in plain sight.
This entire thread is a joke. You can not rationalize with idiots. Quite simply, someone is crying about how scenarios are being ruined by "Twinks." By definition, the people in these scenarios are not twinks so the premise is flawed. As for scenarios being "Ruined" Lets see, you can not get the gear that you are crying about until level 10. ANYONE can save he money and get the gear easy enough, but not until level ten. Make the trip, get the gear, come back and get in a scenario. you are at least lvl 10.5. Get into a scenario, win twice and BAM, the bonus xp plus kill xp you are lvl 11. Now you have... 4 scenarios you can join before you are level 12 and CAN'T be in that scenario anymore. Won't let you join it. Now you have to go play with the big boys who are twice your level in another scenario, or go play the open world RVR which is far more enjoyable anyway. SOOO... because a couple of people were in a couple of scenarios, all scenarios were ruined? How pathetic can you be? If you can not handle one level of dying, WAR is not the game for you. Move along.
If it looks like a twink, walks like a twink and acts like a twink, it's a twink. When people are done with their mains and start rolling alts, they are going to buy the twink gear for their alts. The only thing I see limiting this over powered gear is the fact that it's expensive. The money twink gear costs will mean nothing to level 40 mains.
Wait a second...
Everyone started in the PW with nothing. If that gear was available to anyone... that means it was available to you as well.
Someone knowing about or using gear that perhaps you didn't doesn't make them a twink. Not when that same exact gear was equally available to anyone who'd put in the effort to afford it which, by several accounts, wasn't that difficult to do.
If they could get the money to buy it... So could you.
Don't cry foul because you chose not to... or perhaps didn't know you could. Take it as a learning experience and move on.
Here's a question to put it in perspective...
When the game goes retail, assuming you will be playing... are you not going to purchase that same gear because you're afraid someone else might think you're twinking? Or, are you going to realize that "okay, yeah... anyone really could afford this gear" and buy it yourself?
You're making a very big deal over a very small thing.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I honestly think he probably forgot he even made this thread as people stop making posts in it last monday
Because I hadn't been following the forums here that closely, and because the number of new threads created has pushed many off the first several pages that I may have missed, and because a 5 day old post isn't exactly "dead and buried".
I'm sure it's not the first time this topic is going to come up... Someone will end up making a new thread about it. And how much would you like to bet one of the first things people will say when someone does is "This has already been discussed... use the search function"?
As an aside about the "old topic" thing...
People kinda need to pick one side or the other...
If folks are going to complain about people not using the search function, then don't complain about "thread necromancy" when they do use it.
If people are going to complain about "thread necromancy" when someone revives an older thread, then don't complain about people starting new threads on previously discussed topics.
Can't have it both ways...
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
theres no twinking in war, the rvr gear is the best and you can all get your rvr gear by doing rvr quests for money and leveling in rvr pvp. the reason gear "doesnt matter" in war like other games is because anyone with half a brain cell can get gear equal to the rest, its not that the gear doesnt affect combat (and actually being an 11 vs another 10 or 11 makes a much bigger difference then the 10-11 gear because naked 8s are just squishy period) anyway stop your complaining pick your targets better (dont try to fight the geared 11 as a naked 8 look for other naked 8s duh) suck it up and have some fun already sheesh lol
5 people constantly whacking on a tank that has his r10 rr6 gear (which is being changed) and a healer is not an "OMG twinkies" moment. Its a "Lol look at thoes 5 dumbasses focusing on the tank when they clearly cant kill him while he is being healed" moment.
The guy was playing smart and you bunch of chickens weren't. You deserved everything you got.
Just go back to WoW and cry nerf there. WoW got royally screwed by listening to its loud-mouth incapables unable to play their classes correctly. Please stay away from WAR.
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to above poster: Exactly. The OP's group should have train-nuked the healers one at a time. Duh. This guy's agressive trolling is getting tiresome. The only thing it accomplishes is making him look... trying to find a politically-correct expression but I keep loosing it. You get my drift anyway.
I had a Chosen Rank 10-11 with the Reknown Gear. There was such an impressive jump that it felt fishy. We have to agree that the improvement is massive beyond all others. If the bracket still allows for imbalance then it's evidently going against the basis of RvR Scenarios in WAR.
These aren't twinks, per say, but I believe hearing from an anouncement made by Mark Jacobs himself that it wasn't intended that people would make a jump to Tier 2 power and take it back to Tier 1. How it wasn't seen was rather odd, but I digress. If six people can hold Emskrank against 18 because they dished out 80 silver each instead of because they used terrain, strategy, and proper ability utilization, the game loses a sense of value. Not their intent.
Kudos to the OP for trying and I apologize to any anonymous Bright Wizards my Chosen hacked in two with the "leet greens".
--------------------- Sniper is another term for unorthodox surgeon.
Fingis has a right to voice his opinion. But enough is enough already.
We know you do not like the game!! Go play your WOW. You complained about everything.
The gear issues in PW will be fixed and it was a bug. I happened to like the PVP and we did own folks in rr6 gear once we got our crap together and coordinated our attacks on them. Gear is not an issue when the gear is used in the correct teir zone.
You even complained about CC spells not being i n the game and that my friend is the number one complaint in WOW. You complained about object detection. I do not know about you but I cannot pass thru people and objects in RL.
I have never played a Mythic game but I had fun in the game and will play the game. WOW is like a second job, thus the reason I quit it. I played the game since closed beta.
WOLK adds nothing new for me. Just more rep grinds, new zones, and more time in raids in the same instances over and over for the new gear. Sounds fun to me!
the only thing i can think of that wasnt intended would be a) are you supposed to get locked out of the bracket when you ding 10 and not 12? b)is the rank 10 renown 6 armor supposed to be a higher level like 12? i dont know it seemed perfectly in order to me, the only huge jump i got going from level 4 gear to level 10 gear was a head shoulder and cape addition + the increase on the slots we had. and to me a level 10 is supposed to kick a 4s ass its over 2x the level, all the level 8 buff gives you is level 8 hp in the gear you have and level 8 dps witht he abilities you have, an 11 will always take an 8 1 on 1 most 11s could take 3-4 8s if no one was healed hehe on the bright side if you do the kill quests and scenarios constantly you level from 8 to 10 in under 2 hours anyway and theres lots of buffed 8s you can target instead of the 11s. and yes those 11s will hit 12 fast reguardless due to all kills worth xp and the bonus at the end of the matches
Originally posted by MephistoXV I had a Chosen Rank 10-11 with the Reknown Gear. There was such an impressive jump that it felt fishy. We have to agree that the improvement is massive beyond all others. If the bracket still allows for imbalance then it's evidently going against the basis of RvR Scenarios in WAR.These aren't twinks, per say, but I believe hearing from an anouncement made by Mark Jacobs himself that it wasn't intended that people would make a jump to Tier 2 power and take it back to Tier 1. How it wasn't seen was rather odd, but I digress. If six people can hold Emskrank against 18 because they dished out 80 silver each instead of because they used terrain, strategy, and proper ability utilization, the game loses a sense of value. Not their intent.Kudos to the OP for trying and I apologize to any anonymous Bright Wizards my Chosen hacked in two with the "leet greens".
I also adventured off with my chosen to the Tier2 keep and bought my full set of renown gear, and owned the scenarios. Later on I read Mark Jacobs list of failures and realized that what I had done was not intentional. It didn't last long though as I quickly leveled out of that bracket.
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The result would have been the same for your Order group in the scenario if you had a 10th-11th level Iron breaker with a couple of purple drops on PQs and a full set of reknown gear, backed by two decent healers.
Destruction would then have to play smart and focus on the support around the tank instead of the tank. I don't think Twinks will be a problem in WAAAGGHHHHHH!
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You weren't talking about the Tier 2 armor tho. Thats the problem. You were talking about the Renown rank 6 gear and how that should be a twink in which it isnt.
You werent even talking about the armor bug where tier one renown people were wearing teir 2.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
They are changing it. Calm down.
Enigma said: You weren't talking about the Tier 2 armor tho. Thats the problem. You were talking about the Renown rank 6 gear and how that should be a twink in which it isnt.
You werent even talking about the armor bug where tier one renown people were wearing teir 2.
Dammmmmmmmmmmm!
You mean those twinks could've even been twinkier? lol
even rr4 gear compared to gear you'll get till lvl 10-11 is great IMHO... and costs some 40s i think to buy...by the time i was lvl 11 i had 1.7g from just doing scenarios and quests in the world... and you get a lot more if you do rvr and the rvr quests...
and "go after the healer"... i had marauders bash at my rune priest constantly while i had my 2 hots up and kinda spammed my instant heal... while i just waited for someone to come and help out... and also had time to throw a hot on someone else from time to time... and 2 rune priests doing their job can keep ANYONE alive for a LONG LONG time... 4 hots... instant healing... and using the morale ability when it gets bad... it works wonders...
aye
but man oh man......use the word "twink" correctly lol.
Buying a set of armor for 80 some silver from a n NPC merchant that is accesible to anyone of that rank is not twinking.
k, Im done with this thread now lol
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
If it looks like a twink, walks like a twink and acts like a twink, it's a twink.
When people are done with their mains and start rolling alts, they are going to buy the twink gear for their alts. The only thing I see limiting this over powered gear is the fact that it's expensive.
The money twink gear costs will mean nothing to level 40 mains.
the costs mean nothing to level 10 mains either.
expensive? nope.
the money it cost for a set of T2 gear is easily earned. Twinks are generally decked out in the best gear which takes alot of farming or money to buy...this wasn't the case. You get to rank 10 renown rank 6 and take your lazy ass to the T2 keep owned by your realm and purchase this gear.
If they remove it then this leave alot of room for twinking. As it stands right now anyone can put forth minimal effort and get this gear. Once removed or inaccessable to T1 players then the lvl 10/11 blues and purples(world drop) will make a player god like and this will be sought after by players wanting to twink.
you have to take into account the whole picture, not just what's in plain sight.
This entire thread is a joke. You can not rationalize with idiots. Quite simply, someone is crying about how scenarios are being ruined by "Twinks." By definition, the people in these scenarios are not twinks so the premise is flawed. As for scenarios being "Ruined" Lets see, you can not get the gear that you are crying about until level 10. ANYONE can save he money and get the gear easy enough, but not until level ten. Make the trip, get the gear, come back and get in a scenario. you are at least lvl 10.5. Get into a scenario, win twice and BAM, the bonus xp plus kill xp you are lvl 11. Now you have... 4 scenarios you can join before you are level 12 and CAN'T be in that scenario anymore. Won't let you join it. Now you have to go play with the big boys who are twice your level in another scenario, or go play the open world RVR which is far more enjoyable anyway. SOOO... because a couple of people were in a couple of scenarios, all scenarios were ruined? How pathetic can you be? If you can not handle one level of dying, WAR is not the game for you. Move along.
Wait a second...
Everyone started in the PW with nothing. If that gear was available to anyone... that means it was available to you as well.
Someone knowing about or using gear that perhaps you didn't doesn't make them a twink. Not when that same exact gear was equally available to anyone who'd put in the effort to afford it which, by several accounts, wasn't that difficult to do.
If they could get the money to buy it... So could you.
Don't cry foul because you chose not to... or perhaps didn't know you could. Take it as a learning experience and move on.
Here's a question to put it in perspective...
When the game goes retail, assuming you will be playing... are you not going to purchase that same gear because you're afraid someone else might think you're twinking? Or, are you going to realize that "okay, yeah... anyone really could afford this gear" and buy it yourself?
You're making a very big deal over a very small thing.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I honestly think he probably forgot he even made this thread as people stop making posts in it last monday
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I was thinking that, too.
Ridiculous.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Because I hadn't been following the forums here that closely, and because the number of new threads created has pushed many off the first several pages that I may have missed, and because a 5 day old post isn't exactly "dead and buried".
I'm sure it's not the first time this topic is going to come up... Someone will end up making a new thread about it. And how much would you like to bet one of the first things people will say when someone does is "This has already been discussed... use the search function"?
As an aside about the "old topic" thing...
People kinda need to pick one side or the other...
If folks are going to complain about people not using the search function, then don't complain about "thread necromancy" when they do use it.
If people are going to complain about "thread necromancy" when someone revives an older thread, then don't complain about people starting new threads on previously discussed topics.
Can't have it both ways...
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
theres no twinking in war, the rvr gear is the best and you can all get your rvr gear by doing rvr quests for money and leveling in rvr pvp. the reason gear "doesnt matter" in war like other games is because anyone with half a brain cell can get gear equal to the rest, its not that the gear doesnt affect combat (and actually being an 11 vs another 10 or 11 makes a much bigger difference then the 10-11 gear because naked 8s are just squishy period) anyway stop your complaining pick your targets better (dont try to fight the geared 11 as a naked 8 look for other naked 8s duh) suck it up and have some fun already sheesh lol
5 people constantly whacking on a tank that has his r10 rr6 gear (which is being changed) and a healer is not an "OMG twinkies" moment. Its a "Lol look at thoes 5 dumbasses focusing on the tank when they clearly cant kill him while he is being healed" moment.
Direct to OP:
The guy was playing smart and you bunch of chickens weren't. You deserved everything you got.
Just go back to WoW and cry nerf there. WoW got royally screwed by listening to its loud-mouth incapables unable to play their classes correctly. Please stay away from WAR.
/edit
to above poster: Exactly. The OP's group should have train-nuked the healers one at a time. Duh. This guy's agressive trolling is getting tiresome. The only thing it accomplishes is making him look... trying to find a politically-correct expression but I keep loosing it. You get my drift anyway.
I had a Chosen Rank 10-11 with the Reknown Gear. There was such an impressive jump that it felt fishy. We have to agree that the improvement is massive beyond all others. If the bracket still allows for imbalance then it's evidently going against the basis of RvR Scenarios in WAR.
These aren't twinks, per say, but I believe hearing from an anouncement made by Mark Jacobs himself that it wasn't intended that people would make a jump to Tier 2 power and take it back to Tier 1. How it wasn't seen was rather odd, but I digress. If six people can hold Emskrank against 18 because they dished out 80 silver each instead of because they used terrain, strategy, and proper ability utilization, the game loses a sense of value. Not their intent.
Kudos to the OP for trying and I apologize to any anonymous Bright Wizards my Chosen hacked in two with the "leet greens".
---------------------
Sniper is another term for unorthodox surgeon.
Fingis has a right to voice his opinion. But enough is enough already.
We know you do not like the game!! Go play your WOW. You complained about everything.
The gear issues in PW will be fixed and it was a bug. I happened to like the PVP and we did own folks in rr6 gear once we got our crap together and coordinated our attacks on them. Gear is not an issue when the gear is used in the correct teir zone.
You even complained about CC spells not being i n the game and that my friend is the number one complaint in WOW. You complained about object detection. I do not know about you but I cannot pass thru people and objects in RL.
I have never played a Mythic game but I had fun in the game and will play the game. WOW is like a second job, thus the reason I quit it. I played the game since closed beta.
WOLK adds nothing new for me. Just more rep grinds, new zones, and more time in raids in the same instances over and over for the new gear. Sounds fun to me!
the only thing i can think of that wasnt intended would be a) are you supposed to get locked out of the bracket when you ding 10 and not 12? b)is the rank 10 renown 6 armor supposed to be a higher level like 12? i dont know it seemed perfectly in order to me, the only huge jump i got going from level 4 gear to level 10 gear was a head shoulder and cape addition + the increase on the slots we had. and to me a level 10 is supposed to kick a 4s ass its over 2x the level, all the level 8 buff gives you is level 8 hp in the gear you have and level 8 dps witht he abilities you have, an 11 will always take an 8 1 on 1 most 11s could take 3-4 8s if no one was healed hehe on the bright side if you do the kill quests and scenarios constantly you level from 8 to 10 in under 2 hours anyway and theres lots of buffed 8s you can target instead of the 11s. and yes those 11s will hit 12 fast reguardless due to all kills worth xp and the bonus at the end of the matches
I also adventured off with my chosen to the Tier2 keep and bought my full set of renown gear, and owned the scenarios. Later on I read Mark Jacobs list of failures and realized that what I had done was not intentional. It didn't last long though as I quickly leveled out of that bracket.
Played > UO AC AC2 AO SWG FFXI DAOC GW WOW L2 EQ2 LOTRO EVE CoX DDO EAB Neo MXO TR AOC War Aion
Playing > Nothing
Awaiting > Sigh..
Wishing > Shadowrun Online
The only thing I'm wondering is... why would you attack a Tank when he has at least one healer? That makes no sense at all...
Guess what? If you take away the Tank's heals, you'll find the Tank drops just like everyone else, amazing gear or no.
Oh wait, I forgot... we call people twinks when they beat us. My bad.
The result would have been the same for your Order group in the scenario if you had a 10th-11th level Iron breaker with a couple of purple drops on PQs and a full set of reknown gear, backed by two decent healers.
Destruction would then have to play smart and focus on the support around the tank instead of the tank. I don't think Twinks will be a problem in WAAAGGHHHHHH!