I understand what your saying and its a good point. I never blindly rush into any pvp senario on any game as is. So far DAoC did pvp the best imo, back in the day if you blindly rushed into pvp you got a quick trip back to the port keep and had to wait and rebuff etc etc ( hated that ) . Ill agree wows pvp has no consequences and its selling point is pure loot anyway. Im not saying Full Loot pvp cant be fun, all im saying is I really dont care about loot at all in games. Just give me a weapon and let me loose =P. Linage 2 was a pretty good example of how bad loot droping can turn a game away from pvp.
Walker you are definitely one of the old school PvP'ers I miss. PvP's purest form is Skill vs Skill. Pretty much why I believe FPS will always be superior PvP games when compared to MMO's. "Just give me a weapon and let me loose" Spoken like a true PvP'er.
Well the game looks fun. I don tlike too much the graphics and animations and I dont think they are going to improve. Think about it, its a seamless world, the client load in real time everything you see. do you know what happens when you try to load detailed scenery and characters in real time? what happens is Vanguard. Do you know what happens when your try to animate a lot of characters in a single detailed place? what happens is AoC. So for good or bad, this game will come out as what you saw. Average graphics and clunky animations, this is the way of doing things, desgining the game thinking on what your engine needs to animate, show and load. In my opinion the game looks really good on what it promises, i wasn't looking forward to it until this video. Damn I want more now
I have to say as you mentioned Vanguard, that it is so much better now.
I was really looking forward to the video and I have to say that I was left wanting more. I wanted to see more of the crafting, looting, interface and such, more of the things they have been promising. There was way too much fighting and not enough depth.
I hope this game can come though and maybe they can update the graphics and animations. At a later date if people cant live with it.
I don't understand how some people can be so biased towards these graphics. There are a lot saying here how the graphics are so poor, sure they're dated... but not poor. Are they AoC... no. Are the WAR... no. It's a small step below. It's not like it's some graphics step-up from Red Alert 1 to C&C3. So sad you see the gamers saying "graphics aren't a big deal!", and the second a new game doesn't have the extremely top of the line, need an 8800+ series to play minimum... "the graphics are unplayable".
The thing is, if you see those animation, explosions and other effects I get the feeling this is the work of amateurs. Now I could assume they have amateurs working on other aspects of the game too.
In the end they will have to satisfy hundreds of thousands of unforgiving customers, we know the MMO world is rough.
Don't get me wrong, it looks like tons of fun and I will definately give it a try if the overall feedback is positive but it is just a video and I'm not too excited .. yet.
If you are not accustomed to eating kiwi, go slow at first.
I just saw the video now. It was an overall good video, but there were somethings I realized:
a) Whenever something got destroyed it just vanished. You see this 16 minutes into the video.
b) Didn't show enough crafting
c) Didn't show enough interface (although when we saw the ranger from the tree shoot the arrow; that was pretty neat)
d) The ship battling was kind of like a bittersweet moment. Instead of the ships look like they were damaged (the cannons hit them, made a little blast but that was all). I was kind of expecting them to kind of get holes, catch fire, etc.
e) Didn't show enough of that amazing AI
It was an okay video, but still left me very curious. Wasn't worth the wait.
It just shjowed a bunch of people fighting 80% of the time; I would have liked to see more than just that.
__________________________________________________ In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08 - Rest In Peace; you will not be forgotten
Well the game looks fun. I don tlike too much the graphics and animations and I dont think they are going to improve. Think about it, its a seamless world, the client load in real time everything you see. do you know what happens when you try to load detailed scenery and characters in real time? what happens is Vanguard. Do you know what happens when your try to animate a lot of characters in a single detailed place? what happens is AoC. So for good or bad, this game will come out as what you saw. Average graphics and clunky animations, this is the way of doing things, desgining the game thinking on what your engine needs to animate, show and load. In my opinion the game looks really good on what it promises, i wasn't looking forward to it until this video. Damn I want more now
I have to say as you mentioned Vanguard, that it is so much better now.
I was really looking forward to the video and I have to say that I was left wanting more. I wanted to see more of the crafting, looting, interface and such, more of the things they have been promising. There was way too much fighting and not enough depth.
I hope this game can come though and maybe they can update the graphics and animations. At a later date if people cant live with it.
For me not impressed at what I saw.
I tested Vanguard the free month and they really have done alot to the game. Still, it's a level based game and all levelbased game has an end game. End game need content and as I understand it, there is 1 (one) dude that generate new content these days. Hope Vanguards survives. Crafting and diplomacy were really fun, cool flying mount and OK PvE. It will never have DF's freedom though. Skillbased, sandboxgames aren't for everyone and there is not many of of them. Best support those that exists
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
This is the one thing I wanted to see more of too. We saw some PVE which was good because a lot of trolls were talking about that, but I wanted to see what is the most exciting and out of the box thing in my opinion DF offers...the mob progression thing.
The idea that a small group of goblins may be hanging out in a cave, once they are killed they are gone. But if they go unchecked, they grow larger, champions spawn, and eventually big bosses.
Why is it that the rabid fabois can't reply to constructive criticism? I'd really like to know what you all think of the -FACT- that you only saw zoomed in snippets of the UI and not ONE fullscreen UI view. I was very disappointed by that. Only little bits. maybe like...10 seconds out of the whole video you see an actual interface.
And while the graphics are all right in some respects, the spells and the water and so on and so forth look plain horrible, along with the rather empty outdoors (which might of course grow better when players actually build there, could be).
Anyway, have fun everyone and calm down a little. You got a video, but it did not deliver as much as I had hoped. But it did deliver more than I thought it would. So we'll see what the beta has to say.
The UI is supposed to be very simple , it is about gameplay. You need bags and a health bar. As long as the ground unde rmy feet in the game is solid then I can ask for no more this looks like it will offer some great gameplay and at last someone with the conviction to create a great game.
I feel for the dissapointed but I guess they will be a minority , the haters will hate regardless of anything DF produces so to be honest I care little for the diatribe. While you sit and hate we will be having fun. Bye Bye have an unpleasant evening.
You sir, are an excellent example of why I find most DF Fans so very annoying. You insult people without regards of what they post as long as they post ANY possible criticism of the game. You are about on the same level as the Trolls, because a normal discussion is not possible with you either.
Anyway, your assumption of DF's UI is incorrect by the way. Because the little screenshots we have of DF's UI shows a skillbar along with what you apparently believe is the only thing there should be. And while yes, a simple UI may be good, I would still like to see it, because it would show me much more that there are actual people playing and HOW they are playing than what I've seen in this Video.
Anyway, I hope you will find what you are looking for in DF, but please keep your insults and assumptions about me. Thank you very much.
You are clearly trolling, it is a shame you will be dissapointed with this forever. It is a FPS based MMO to a point and if you spend a little time understanding what that means and you can go work that out for yourself, yes you may be capable. And when you have done this you may realise or may not that the graphics will not be much better as it will potentially degrade gameplay.
The forums provide no real game discussion just vapor discussion , and yone who wan't to do that goes elsewhere.
Old features repackaged , simple GUI not really sure what you expected but whatever had been made available would of dissapointed as you seem to have set your expectation. This game is about a complex framework simple outlook, it is what everyone has been waiting for. And it will no way be overengineered so I am not wrong for once.
If you say the words insult enough times you may be able to try and get me banned which seems to be the aim of any good troll.
Bye Bye and again don't stew too much there will be other games you can go and disrupt and one day you may even contribute or applaud the DF Devs on their hard work but I guess that would be just too much.
Today is about the DF Devs give them some Applause. They really deserve it (oh and no need to hope for me I don't need it a game is a game and nothing more , real life is what is important don't forget it it may be your saviour)
________________________________________________________ Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Been following the games since 2001. I had not allowed myself to hope for anything good, last 4 years, but this just confirms my wildest dreams that this will be the best game ever for me
the way this looks i'll probably be playing this at least the next 5 years.
Why is it that the rabid fabois can't reply to constructive criticism? I'd really like to know what you all think of the -FACT- that you only saw zoomed in snippets of the UI and not ONE fullscreen UI view. I was very disappointed by that. Only little bits. maybe like...10 seconds out of the whole video you see an actual interface.
And while the graphics are all right in some respects, the spells and the water and so on and so forth look plain horrible, along with the rather empty outdoors (which might of course grow better when players actually build there, could be).
Anyway, have fun everyone and calm down a little. You got a video, but it did not deliver as much as I had hoped. But it did deliver more than I thought it would. So we'll see what the beta has to say.
The UI is supposed to be very simple , it is about gameplay. You need bags and a health bar. As long as the ground unde rmy feet in the game is solid then I can ask for no more this looks like it will offer some great gameplay and at last someone with the conviction to create a great game.
I feel for the dissapointed but I guess they will be a minority , the haters will hate regardless of anything DF produces so to be honest I care little for the diatribe. While you sit and hate we will be having fun. Bye Bye have an unpleasant evening.
You sir, are an excellent example of why I find most DF Fans so very annoying. You insult people without regards of what they post as long as they post ANY possible criticism of the game. You are about on the same level as the Trolls, because a normal discussion is not possible with you either.
Anyway, your assumption of DF's UI is incorrect by the way. Because the little screenshots we have of DF's UI shows a skillbar along with what you apparently believe is the only thing there should be. And while yes, a simple UI may be good, I would still like to see it, because it would show me much more that there are actual people playing and HOW they are playing than what I've seen in this Video.
Anyway, I hope you will find what you are looking for in DF, but please keep your insults and assumptions about me. Thank you very much.
You are clearly trolling, it is a shame you will be dissapointed with this forever. It is a FPS based MMO to a point and if you spend a little time understanding what that means and you can go work that out for yourself, yes you may be capable. And when you have done this you may realise or may not that the graphics will not be much better as it will potentially degrade gameplay.
The forums provide no real game discussion just vapor discussion , and yone who wan't to do that goes elsewhere.
Old features repackaged , simple GUI not really sure what you expected but whatever had been made available would of dissapointed as you seem to have set your expectation. This game is about a complex framework simple outlook, it is what everyone has been waiting for. And it will no way be overengineered so I am not wrong for once.
If you say the words insult enough times you may be able to try and get me banned which seems to be the aim of any good troll.
Bye Bye and again don't stew too much there will be other games you can go and disrupt and one day you may even contribute or applaud the DF Devs on their hard work but I guess that would be just too much.
Today is about the DF Devs give them some Applause. They really deserve it (oh and no need to hope for me I don't need it a game is a game and nothing more , real life is what is important don't forget it it may be your saviour)
Edit: On second thought, not worth a reply.
My last post on this subject. Sorry for steering the thread off topic for a moment everyone.
It'll be a big deal to some, don't play, it's as simple as that, I'd recommend Oblivion, it's got some nice graphics.
I'll say this once - The graphics are not amazing, 99.9% of the Darkfall communinty is in it for the open enviroment PvP and large scale warfare.
It's as simple as that, if we wanted graphics over game-play / functionality we'd play AOC [heard plenty of rumors large scale warfare even at the lowest of settings was 5-10fps]
There's always WAR as well, however I played the preview weekend and the game was broken and not ready for release. Graphics didn't overly impress me, I play MMORPG's for PvP, period.
[WAR's NPC AI is non-existent and pathing is absolutely broken and public quests are broken 50% of the time as well, not to mention there is a laundry list of exp/renown exploits + terrain exploits.]
Oh, vapour trolls, complain about the graphics all you want, because you obviouslly downloaded the video and will ridicule it regardless of gameplay value and content. The fact is you admitted to the game being a realistic thing, so, this is my message to you
meh ps2 quality graphics at best. if it some how delievers on everything it promised and is free to play then maybe people will play it. i couldn't stoop down and play anything that cheap or of that poor of quality.
it's really not that hard to make a video like this anyways. didn't see any kinda ui or anything to indicate its an actual working game. i'm sure every detail was scripted and it still looked awful. i still believe it'll never see the light or day.
you cant compare single player games to multiplayer.
in multiplayer, you can either go for low polygon like df is, which makes it possible to have hundres of players fighting eachother with framerates above 100fps or you can have something like AOC which drops framerates to below 5 as soon as more than 40 people get together in one spot.
meh ps2 quality graphics at best. if it some how delievers on everything it promised and is free to play then maybe people will play it. i couldn't stoop down and play anything that cheap or of that poor of quality.
these posts are making me so happy, the defeat is just dripping off their words.
Graphics are so dependant on personal taste that no one is really making a point by attacking its graphics (which is cool because you are admitting its real now).
Some people love WoW's cartoony graphics because it fits the game, i agree with them. I think AoC's attempt to look so amazing is terrible and takes away from immersion, because you will never achieve realistic graphics with current technology that are good enough to really look real.
In my opinion the graphics are "better" that WAR by a mile. And there are plenty of people who think WAR's graphics are far superior. It is all a matter of opinion. But as far as the graphics being "bad"...sorry, but they are just fine for this generation and gameplay issues.
It will be pay to play, it will be played, and you know it...hell if it releases well we may even see you in game (under a different name of course). Your comment about how it has to deliver anything plus be free is just lol...look at the huge spike in active users on the main forums today...this game has been on the minds of many guilds and players, just most of them dont waste time on forums like we do.
Well for the fanboys i am happy they put out this video. If they have all they showed in the video for us to do would be great, but the qraphic look like eq 1 . They looked like 1998 stuff and by my understanding the game was started around that time . would hope for a bit better graphic. . will wait and see for more, but still good to see they did the video.
People complain about graphics, but they forget that "sub-par" graphics is one huge reason why WoW has become and remains extremely popular. So tell me again why people won't play this game because of it's "dated" graphics?
Anyway, I still vividly remember playing Combat on the Atari 2600. I don't complain about game graphics.
it's really not that hard to make a video like this anyways. didn't see any kinda ui or anything to indicate its an actual working game. i'm sure every detail was scripted and it still looked awful. i still believe it'll never see the light or day.
Well for the fanboys i am happy they put out this video. If they have all they showed in the video for us to do would be great, but the qraphic look like eq 1 . They looked like 1998 stuff and by my understanding the game was started around that time . would hope for a bit better graphic. . will wait and see for more, but still good to see they did the video.
Woah we were all fooled by your fake patronizing post. seriously are we all 11 years old where graphics mean everything. You can't have those large online battles and naval battles with MG4 level graphics. Be real. The graphics are excellent for the gameplay they are coupled with.
I feel Im wasting my time aruging with paid trolls.
People complain about graphics, but they forget that "sub-par" graphics is one huge reason why WoW has become and remains extremely popular. So tell me again why people won't play this game because of it's "dated" graphics. Anyway, I still vividly remember playing Combat on the Atari 2600. I don't complain about game graphics.
This.
I remember pre-release WoW . People attacked its graphics also saying that it will die after a year or so because no one will respect its graphics.
Trolls in this forum will never stop, but we all know who is right in the arguement and in a few months, we will be playing the game with many others while they troll the next game in an attempt to feel good about themselves.
Man it feels good to be on the right side of the DF drama.
it's really not that hard to make a video like this anyways. didn't see any kinda ui or anything to indicate its an actual working game. i'm sure every detail was scripted and it still looked awful. i still believe it'll never see the light or day.
Please make me a Crysis DX10 level video like this then.
Well outlawVr i am not a paid troll, but just a guy who has logged in this site for awhile and got a good laugh from the fanboys and haters. I really am happy the video came out . and stil not sure about the graphics. i know graphic are not everything . I am not getting into a type off with trolls for or against DF . just a person that watched the video and posted a thought.
Going back to the archer sniping scene in the tree. It looked as if he was one-shotting the players on the ground. Makes me wonder if there is a long cast archer skill that may allow this. I remember devs saying that magic and bows would not do the dmg that a melee blow would.
Anyone else have thoughts about this? Maybe i was too busy crying out of happiness to notice that they weren't going down in one shot.
Well outlawVr i am not a paid troll, but just a guy who has logged in this site for awhile and got a good laugh from the fanboys and haters. I really am happy the video came out . and stil not sure about the graphics. i know graphic are not everything . I am not getting into a type off with trolls for or against DF . just a person that watched the video and posted a thought.
fair enough
I know its graphics are not crisis
but wow's graphics are not the best either, not even when it came out.
watch the high def version, seriously the graphics are not bad at all.
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Walker you are definitely one of the old school PvP'ers I miss. PvP's purest form is Skill vs Skill. Pretty much why I believe FPS will always be superior PvP games when compared to MMO's. "Just give me a weapon and let me loose" Spoken like a true PvP'er.
I have to say as you mentioned Vanguard, that it is so much better now.
I was really looking forward to the video and I have to say that I was left wanting more. I wanted to see more of the crafting, looting, interface and such, more of the things they have been promising. There was way too much fighting and not enough depth.
I hope this game can come though and maybe they can update the graphics and animations. At a later date if people cant live with it.
For me not impressed at what I saw.
The thing is, if you see those animation, explosions and other effects I get the feeling this is the work of amateurs. Now I could assume they have amateurs working on other aspects of the game too.
In the end they will have to satisfy hundreds of thousands of unforgiving customers, we know the MMO world is rough.
Don't get me wrong, it looks like tons of fun and I will definately give it a try if the overall feedback is positive but it is just a video and I'm not too excited .. yet.
If you are not accustomed to eating kiwi, go slow at first.
I just saw the video now. It was an overall good video, but there were somethings I realized:
a) Whenever something got destroyed it just vanished. You see this 16 minutes into the video.
b) Didn't show enough crafting
c) Didn't show enough interface (although when we saw the ranger from the tree shoot the arrow; that was pretty neat)
d) The ship battling was kind of like a bittersweet moment. Instead of the ships look like they were damaged (the cannons hit them, made a little blast but that was all). I was kind of expecting them to kind of get holes, catch fire, etc.
e) Didn't show enough of that amazing AI
It was an okay video, but still left me very curious. Wasn't worth the wait.
It just shjowed a bunch of people fighting 80% of the time; I would have liked to see more than just that.
__________________________________________________
In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08 - Rest In Peace; you will not be forgotten
I have to say as you mentioned Vanguard, that it is so much better now.
I was really looking forward to the video and I have to say that I was left wanting more. I wanted to see more of the crafting, looting, interface and such, more of the things they have been promising. There was way too much fighting and not enough depth.
I hope this game can come though and maybe they can update the graphics and animations. At a later date if people cant live with it.
For me not impressed at what I saw.
I tested Vanguard the free month and they really have done alot to the game. Still, it's a level based game and all levelbased game has an end game. End game need content and as I understand it, there is 1 (one) dude that generate new content these days. Hope Vanguards survives. Crafting and diplomacy were really fun, cool flying mount and OK PvE. It will never have DF's freedom though. Skillbased, sandboxgames aren't for everyone and there is not many of of them. Best support those that exists
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
This is the one thing I wanted to see more of too. We saw some PVE which was good because a lot of trolls were talking about that, but I wanted to see what is the most exciting and out of the box thing in my opinion DF offers...the mob progression thing.
The idea that a small group of goblins may be hanging out in a cave, once they are killed they are gone. But if they go unchecked, they grow larger, champions spawn, and eventually big bosses.
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The UI is supposed to be very simple , it is about gameplay. You need bags and a health bar. As long as the ground unde rmy feet in the game is solid then I can ask for no more this looks like it will offer some great gameplay and at last someone with the conviction to create a great game.
I feel for the dissapointed but I guess they will be a minority , the haters will hate regardless of anything DF produces so to be honest I care little for the diatribe. While you sit and hate we will be having fun. Bye Bye have an unpleasant evening.
You sir, are an excellent example of why I find most DF Fans so very annoying. You insult people without regards of what they post as long as they post ANY possible criticism of the game. You are about on the same level as the Trolls, because a normal discussion is not possible with you either.
Anyway, your assumption of DF's UI is incorrect by the way. Because the little screenshots we have of DF's UI shows a skillbar along with what you apparently believe is the only thing there should be. And while yes, a simple UI may be good, I would still like to see it, because it would show me much more that there are actual people playing and HOW they are playing than what I've seen in this Video.
Anyway, I hope you will find what you are looking for in DF, but please keep your insults and assumptions about me. Thank you very much.
You are clearly trolling, it is a shame you will be dissapointed with this forever. It is a FPS based MMO to a point and if you spend a little time understanding what that means and you can go work that out for yourself, yes you may be capable. And when you have done this you may realise or may not that the graphics will not be much better as it will potentially degrade gameplay.
The forums provide no real game discussion just vapor discussion , and yone who wan't to do that goes elsewhere.
Old features repackaged , simple GUI not really sure what you expected but whatever had been made available would of dissapointed as you seem to have set your expectation. This game is about a complex framework simple outlook, it is what everyone has been waiting for. And it will no way be overengineered so I am not wrong for once.
If you say the words insult enough times you may be able to try and get me banned which seems to be the aim of any good troll.
Bye Bye and again don't stew too much there will be other games you can go and disrupt and one day you may even contribute or applaud the DF Devs on their hard work but I guess that would be just too much.
Today is about the DF Devs give them some Applause. They really deserve it (oh and no need to hope for me I don't need it a game is a game and nothing more , real life is what is important don't forget it it may be your saviour)
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
holy fuck, just finished watching this movie.
Been following the games since 2001. I had not allowed myself to hope for anything good, last 4 years, but this just confirms my wildest dreams that this will be the best game ever for me
the way this looks i'll probably be playing this at least the next 5 years.
Khael[SUN]
SUN - peekayin since pong
Webdeveloper on:
http://www.guildofsun.com
http://www.bloodmonarchy.com
The UI is supposed to be very simple , it is about gameplay. You need bags and a health bar. As long as the ground unde rmy feet in the game is solid then I can ask for no more this looks like it will offer some great gameplay and at last someone with the conviction to create a great game.
I feel for the dissapointed but I guess they will be a minority , the haters will hate regardless of anything DF produces so to be honest I care little for the diatribe. While you sit and hate we will be having fun. Bye Bye have an unpleasant evening.
You sir, are an excellent example of why I find most DF Fans so very annoying. You insult people without regards of what they post as long as they post ANY possible criticism of the game. You are about on the same level as the Trolls, because a normal discussion is not possible with you either.
Anyway, your assumption of DF's UI is incorrect by the way. Because the little screenshots we have of DF's UI shows a skillbar along with what you apparently believe is the only thing there should be. And while yes, a simple UI may be good, I would still like to see it, because it would show me much more that there are actual people playing and HOW they are playing than what I've seen in this Video.
Anyway, I hope you will find what you are looking for in DF, but please keep your insults and assumptions about me. Thank you very much.
You are clearly trolling, it is a shame you will be dissapointed with this forever. It is a FPS based MMO to a point and if you spend a little time understanding what that means and you can go work that out for yourself, yes you may be capable. And when you have done this you may realise or may not that the graphics will not be much better as it will potentially degrade gameplay.
The forums provide no real game discussion just vapor discussion , and yone who wan't to do that goes elsewhere.
Old features repackaged , simple GUI not really sure what you expected but whatever had been made available would of dissapointed as you seem to have set your expectation. This game is about a complex framework simple outlook, it is what everyone has been waiting for. And it will no way be overengineered so I am not wrong for once.
If you say the words insult enough times you may be able to try and get me banned which seems to be the aim of any good troll.
Bye Bye and again don't stew too much there will be other games you can go and disrupt and one day you may even contribute or applaud the DF Devs on their hard work but I guess that would be just too much.
Today is about the DF Devs give them some Applause. They really deserve it (oh and no need to hope for me I don't need it a game is a game and nothing more , real life is what is important don't forget it it may be your saviour)
Edit: On second thought, not worth a reply.
My last post on this subject. Sorry for steering the thread off topic for a moment everyone.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Yeah the graphics are sub-par.
It'll be a big deal to some, don't play, it's as simple as that, I'd recommend Oblivion, it's got some nice graphics.
I'll say this once - The graphics are not amazing, 99.9% of the Darkfall communinty is in it for the open enviroment PvP and large scale warfare.
It's as simple as that, if we wanted graphics over game-play / functionality we'd play AOC [heard plenty of rumors large scale warfare even at the lowest of settings was 5-10fps]
There's always WAR as well, however I played the preview weekend and the game was broken and not ready for release. Graphics didn't overly impress me, I play MMORPG's for PvP, period.
[WAR's NPC AI is non-existent and pathing is absolutely broken and public quests are broken 50% of the time as well, not to mention there is a laundry list of exp/renown exploits + terrain exploits.]
Oh, vapour trolls, complain about the graphics all you want, because you obviouslly downloaded the video and will ridicule it regardless of gameplay value and content. The fact is you admitted to the game being a realistic thing, so, this is my message to you
You just lost the game.
I look forward to bashing your skulls in-game.
meh ps2 quality graphics at best. if it some how delievers on everything it promised and is free to play then maybe people will play it. i couldn't stoop down and play anything that cheap or of that poor of quality.
it's really not that hard to make a video like this anyways. didn't see any kinda ui or anything to indicate its an actual working game. i'm sure every detail was scripted and it still looked awful. i still believe it'll never see the light or day.
you cant compare single player games to multiplayer.
in multiplayer, you can either go for low polygon like df is, which makes it possible to have hundres of players fighting eachother with framerates above 100fps or you can have something like AOC which drops framerates to below 5 as soon as more than 40 people get together in one spot.
Khael[SUN]
SUN - peekayin since pong
Webdeveloper on:
http://www.guildofsun.com
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these posts are making me so happy, the defeat is just dripping off their words.
Graphics are so dependant on personal taste that no one is really making a point by attacking its graphics (which is cool because you are admitting its real now).
Some people love WoW's cartoony graphics because it fits the game, i agree with them. I think AoC's attempt to look so amazing is terrible and takes away from immersion, because you will never achieve realistic graphics with current technology that are good enough to really look real.
In my opinion the graphics are "better" that WAR by a mile. And there are plenty of people who think WAR's graphics are far superior. It is all a matter of opinion. But as far as the graphics being "bad"...sorry, but they are just fine for this generation and gameplay issues.
It will be pay to play, it will be played, and you know it...hell if it releases well we may even see you in game (under a different name of course). Your comment about how it has to deliver anything plus be free is just lol...look at the huge spike in active users on the main forums today...this game has been on the minds of many guilds and players, just most of them dont waste time on forums like we do.
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Well for the fanboys i am happy they put out this video. If they have all they showed in the video for us to do would be great, but the qraphic look like eq 1 . They looked like 1998 stuff and by my understanding the game was started around that time . would hope for a bit better graphic. . will wait and see for more, but still good to see they did the video.
People complain about graphics, but they forget that "sub-par" graphics is one huge reason why WoW has become and remains extremely popular. So tell me again why people won't play this game because of it's "dated" graphics?
Anyway, I still vividly remember playing Combat on the Atari 2600. I don't complain about game graphics.
Wowy wow wow
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Woah we were all fooled by your fake patronizing post. seriously are we all 11 years old where graphics mean everything. You can't have those large online battles and naval battles with MG4 level graphics. Be real. The graphics are excellent for the gameplay they are coupled with.
I feel Im wasting my time aruging with paid trolls.
This.
I remember pre-release WoW . People attacked its graphics also saying that it will die after a year or so because no one will respect its graphics.
Trolls in this forum will never stop, but we all know who is right in the arguement and in a few months, we will be playing the game with many others while they troll the next game in an attempt to feel good about themselves.
Man it feels good to be on the right side of the DF drama.
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Please make me a Crysis DX10 level video like this then.
I'll even give you 30 days to do it
who cares about the graphics...its the lack of actual in game functions which they DIDNT show still doesnt blow me away....leaves a shallow meh taste
Well outlawVr i am not a paid troll, but just a guy who has logged in this site for awhile and got a good laugh from the fanboys and haters. I really am happy the video came out . and stil not sure about the graphics. i know graphic are not everything . I am not getting into a type off with trolls for or against DF . just a person that watched the video and posted a thought.
Getting back on topic...
Going back to the archer sniping scene in the tree. It looked as if he was one-shotting the players on the ground. Makes me wonder if there is a long cast archer skill that may allow this. I remember devs saying that magic and bows would not do the dmg that a melee blow would.
Anyone else have thoughts about this? Maybe i was too busy crying out of happiness to notice that they weren't going down in one shot.
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The graphics and animations remind me a lot of Dark and Light.
Is it the same company or a relaunch of Dark and Light?
fair enough
I know its graphics are not crisis
but wow's graphics are not the best either, not even when it came out.
watch the high def version, seriously the graphics are not bad at all.