2. Aesthetics (which are well obviously subjective) leave a very bad taste
3. Battles are a complete chaos: so far the best you have seen are battles with only 20-30 characters. Imagine fights with 10x that. There is a reason some games flag people as enemy or friend
4. In an attempt to justify the development stage, they gave something of everything: airborne vehicles (???!!!lol) ships that obviously need a lot more... etc..
5. In short: no scope, tries to make everyone happy (which is impossible) giving it 99% chance to fail
Needs a lot of polishing, still very far away from beta, looks as if its not a product thats supposed to hit the market, and even if they try for a launch this Oct as they call it pilot or whatelse, still very early beta
So, this is the fruit of a team working for almost 10 years? Not impressed at all: 1. Outdated graphics, jerky movement, unrealistic effects 2. Aesthetics (which are well obviously subjective) leave a very bad taste 3. Battles are a complete chaos: so far the best you have seen are battles with only 20-30 characters. Imagine fights with 10x that. There is a reason some games flag people as enemy or friend 4. In an attempt to justify the development stage, they gave something of everything: airborne vehicles (???!!!lol) ships that obviously need a lot more... etc.. 5. In short: no scope, tries to make everyone happy (which is impossible) giving it 99% chance to fail
Needs a lot of polishing, still very far away from beta, looks as if its not a product thats supposed to hit the market, and even if they try for a launch this Oct as they call it pilot or whatelse, still very early beta
The graphics look fine, I think what alot of people are referring to are the animations, which indeed do need alot of work.
The animations really need time to be worked on. I mean, you cant just have objects disappearing when you destroy them - thats just silly and even I, who is willing to sacrifice gameplay for graphics, cant really compete with. This game definitly could use another year of development and another year of beta testing before it comes out. God knows how many bugs lurk in the game.
But - it isnt vaporware. Congrats DF fans, you got some good long footage on your hands.
HAHAHA!! I love the boat fight! ......Did you notice my sarcasm. I am sorry to say this but they should not even bothered with the boat fights. It made me laugh through the whole thing. The ships sinking was stupid and when the shipped dissapeared. There was just a circle flash and than vanish! The cannons firing and the explosions need to be polished. Really badly! So they really did not pay attention to detail on that part. I actually liked the fighting that was impressive. I really liked the archers that was really cool. I also really liked the landscaping and the building.
I have not really kept up to date with DF. I actually do not pay attention to it at all.
*note* They need to polish the crap out of this game before releasing it.
I just finished the 600mb download, and I wasn't very impressed with what they had to show at all. I have been following Darkfall for years as a fan, but I cannot see how they hope to launch this game sometime before January with these graphics, gameplay and animations; unless they are planning some sort of major overhaul for the beta and launch in the next few months. It looks like a game from four or five years ago.
And yes, I do believe that good graphics do not necessarily make a good overall game, but in this case it's still a major turn-off for me.
Mixed feelings about the PvP. It looks very fun, especially love the blood, archery and mounted combat - but it seemed a little too chaotic. The ship-to-ship combat looked very poor to me, besides the PvP boarding. Magic looks bland and on par with Everquest 1.
Some of the scenery looks superb, towns and villages, certain landscapes - but others looked like they belonged on a Playstation 2 game.
I was thrilled when I logged into the forums and saw multiple "DARKFALL VIDEO RELEASED ZOMG!!" threads, expecting to see a mixed bag of features, especially some social aspects of the game, the UI, anything besides combat really.. so I'm dissapointed overall.
But I'm happy for Darkfall fans, I hope you enjoyed the video. Keep fighting the trolls, you'll get your game.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
I just finished the 600mb download, and I wasn't very impressed with what they had to show at all. I have been following Darkfall for years as a fan, but I cannot see how they hope to launch this game sometime before January with these graphics, gameplay and animations; unless they are planning some sort of major overhaul for the beta and launch in the next few months. It looks like a game from four or five years ago. And yes, I do believe that good graphics do not necessarily make a good overall game, but in this case it's still a major turn-off for me.
Mixed feelings about the PvP. It looks very fun, especially love the blood, archery and mounted combat - but it seemed a little too chaotic. The ship-to-ship combat looked very poor to me, besides the PvP boarding. Magic looks bland and on par with Everquest 1. Some of the scenery looks superb, towns and villages, certain landscapes - but others looked like they belonged on a Playstation 2 game. I was thrilled when I logged into the forums and saw multiple "DARKFALL VIDEO RELEASED ZOMG!!" threads, expecting to see a mixed bag of features, especially some social aspects of the game, the UI, anything besides combat really.. so I'm dissapointed overall. But I'm happy for Darkfall fans, I hope you enjoyed the video. Keep fighting the trolls, you'll get your game.
Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off. Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff. I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people. But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.
I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of both. Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work. Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.
But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing.
Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off. Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff. I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people. But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.
I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of both. Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work. Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.
But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing.
gfx are medium settings brannoc confirmed it in irc after the vid came out
so has anyone gotten excited about a certain combat type after seeing this video that maybe they didnt care for before? The knockback spells made me drool and once i get to test the game, Im definitely going to explore the spell trees more than I originally planned to. While the archer scenes were amazing, i have just never been into the ranger/hunter type classes before. Maybe something like a battlemage who knows...cool thing is there are no classes and all i have to do is just train up the others skills! woah freedom, who would have thought? Also curious about healing.
I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good. The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.
I think there piroity was to get a feature complete game then polish animations and stuff im sure someof that stuff will be worked on before release
I couldnt get anything out of brannoc on this one because of the nda in place><
so has anyone gotten excited about a certain combat type after seeing this video that maybe they didnt care for before? The knockback spells made me drool and once i get to test the game, Im definitely going to explore the spell trees more than I originally planned to. While the archer scenes were amazing, i have just never been into the ranger/hunter type classes before. Maybe something like a battlemage who knows...cool thing is there are no classes and all i have to do is just train up the others skills! woah freedom, who would have thought? Also curious about healing.
I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good. The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.
I feared that too, but you know the thing is there ARE no classes. So you can be a tank with some spells to fend off ranged people. Its not pure melee, but you got to adapt. I hope close combat has a good chance. And I think with the friendly fire of damage and healing spells, swords are safer.
As for graphics, yeah the video was recorded on the in house test computers at medium settings.
Loved the action pack video. Yeah the graphics are not the bext, but they are decent. All the freedom within this games makes up for it ten fold. Never seen a trailer with this much in it. It definitely has me drooling to play. No levels, entirely skill based. Not to mention the open looting. I have long missed the days of UO with open looting...I can now satisfy that hunger.
Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off. Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff. I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people. But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.
I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of both. Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work. Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.
But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing.
gfx are medium settings brannoc confirmed it in irc after the vid came out
So are all the WAR videos and i think that Warhammers graphics are better. The character models just blah to me. Some of the landscaping is pretty good but still. Im just not impressed by a game thats been developed for as long as it has.
But I guess it all just comes down to opinion I guess. What I think looks like crap could be the most beautiful thing in the world to someone else.
well graphics < gameplay is my rule. the graphics are lackluster at best but the gameplay looks decent. one thing i will say i am an environment man. i love detailed and packed landscapes and Darkfall wont deliver on that (wasn't expecting it to).
one thing that was missing from the videos that worried me a tad was the lack of anything but players...its nice to kill players but i need to vent my frustrations on animals/monsters eventually
still +1 for the darkfall community and +1 cred to the devs (even if it took so long to release the vid). also +1 to the devs ego for saying 2008 in the videos (until i see mobs and/or public beta of any sort i doubt 2008 will be Darkfalls year).
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
It does look like there is a game there and that it will see some form of release. I think in the end the game has been in the oven too long, the graphics look incredibly dated and the animations are sub par to say the least.
I think we all need this game to at least make some money so indi developers who are trying to break the mold dont become lessons learnt for the larger mmomakers to point at and say, " THATS why we dont try anything different".
I am an explorer at heart and this game seems to have a huge landmass so I will probably try it, just a shame that landmass looks so 90's. Lets hope the gameplay makes up for it!.
But on a possitive note for those who like this type of gameworld... theres always that Mortal Online game.
OP has been updated with another link to a streaming video version of the full video. The quality is better than the youtube version, but not as good as the torrent.
Enjoy and please PM any other good mirror for the video, as I may miss them in this thread from here on out.
ok, im not a fanboy to any mmo, i dont care about lore i only care about gamplay.
that said, i see no incentive to play darkfall. By that i mean, i see players climbing aboard a ship to fight on it, are they guna capture that ship by doing that, whats the encentive?
they showed city sieges (which looked more boring than WAR sieges) whats the incentive?
i know about the awesome freedom of play in darkfall, but what do you gain through PvP?
this game (PvP wise) seems to be going down the same path as AoC.
WAR has clear incentives in place for PvP ive played it & it works, what does darkfall have thats guna make me wana siege a ship?
im not trying to troll, ill prob try this game, but WAR's RvR works, because there is incentives, why do i wana siege a ship/city in darkfall?
I know there is a lot of discussion around the graphics but lets face it.
If gameplay is solid and its a load of fun then graphics can be upgraded when the broadband and PC's can handle it with this type of game.
If the graphics is amazing and gameplay a pile of shite then its almost impossible to go back and change the engine.
Just watching a ship fire into the front of a structure and hitting players as they run out is pretty ground breaking in my eyes and even though I am a pixel whore I wont care if this game has battles on that scale.
(expecting the usual 3 months of polish post launch like the rest of them still)
Graphics are not important. Animations are not important. Gameplay is important. From watching the HD version of the trailer the gameplay looks amazing.
You can climb things and ambush other players, you can use ships to bombard the shore and kill players., mounted combat, FPS combat system and the list goes on and on.. The gameplay looks amazing and that is all that matters.
Also did anyone else love the fact that you can blast players off a cliff to their death, that was funny as shit.
I can't wait to blow things up with ships, the siege equipment was cool, I love the fact that it floats, it really makes you shows you they are trying to bring something completely new to the MMO world.
A - is my grade for that Trailer.... This is a beta video folks, Animations and graphics can be improved during beta.
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So, this is the fruit of a team working for almost 10 years? Not impressed at all:
1. Outdated graphics, jerky movement, unrealistic effects
2. Aesthetics (which are well obviously subjective) leave a very bad taste
3. Battles are a complete chaos: so far the best you have seen are battles with only 20-30 characters. Imagine fights with 10x that. There is a reason some games flag people as enemy or friend
4. In an attempt to justify the development stage, they gave something of everything: airborne vehicles (???!!!lol) ships that obviously need a lot more... etc..
5. In short: no scope, tries to make everyone happy (which is impossible) giving it 99% chance to fail
Needs a lot of polishing, still very far away from beta, looks as if its not a product thats supposed to hit the market, and even if they try for a launch this Oct as they call it pilot or whatelse, still very early beta
Great. Don't play!
play what? it's still vapors son.
play what? it's still vapors son.
nope
The graphics look fine, I think what alot of people are referring to are the animations, which indeed do need alot of work.
The animations really need time to be worked on. I mean, you cant just have objects disappearing when you destroy them - thats just silly and even I, who is willing to sacrifice gameplay for graphics, cant really compete with. This game definitly could use another year of development and another year of beta testing before it comes out. God knows how many bugs lurk in the game.
But - it isnt vaporware. Congrats DF fans, you got some good long footage on your hands.
HAHAHA!! I love the boat fight! ......Did you notice my sarcasm. I am sorry to say this but they should not even bothered with the boat fights. It made me laugh through the whole thing. The ships sinking was stupid and when the shipped dissapeared. There was just a circle flash and than vanish! The cannons firing and the explosions need to be polished. Really badly! So they really did not pay attention to detail on that part. I actually liked the fighting that was impressive. I really liked the archers that was really cool. I also really liked the landscaping and the building.
I have not really kept up to date with DF. I actually do not pay attention to it at all.
*note* They need to polish the crap out of this game before releasing it.
I just finished the 600mb download, and I wasn't very impressed with what they had to show at all. I have been following Darkfall for years as a fan, but I cannot see how they hope to launch this game sometime before January with these graphics, gameplay and animations; unless they are planning some sort of major overhaul for the beta and launch in the next few months. It looks like a game from four or five years ago.
And yes, I do believe that good graphics do not necessarily make a good overall game, but in this case it's still a major turn-off for me.
Mixed feelings about the PvP. It looks very fun, especially love the blood, archery and mounted combat - but it seemed a little too chaotic. The ship-to-ship combat looked very poor to me, besides the PvP boarding. Magic looks bland and on par with Everquest 1.
Some of the scenery looks superb, towns and villages, certain landscapes - but others looked like they belonged on a Playstation 2 game.
I was thrilled when I logged into the forums and saw multiple "DARKFALL VIDEO RELEASED ZOMG!!" threads, expecting to see a mixed bag of features, especially some social aspects of the game, the UI, anything besides combat really.. so I'm dissapointed overall.
But I'm happy for Darkfall fans, I hope you enjoyed the video. Keep fighting the trolls, you'll get your game.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
you do relise that was medium settings mostly
Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off. Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff. I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people. But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.
I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of both. Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work. Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.
But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing.
gfx are medium settings brannoc confirmed it in irc after the vid came out
I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good. The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.
I think there piroity was to get a feature complete game then polish animations and stuff im sure someof that stuff will be worked on before release
I couldnt get anything out of brannoc on this one because of the nda in place><
I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good. The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.
I feared that too, but you know the thing is there ARE no classes. So you can be a tank with some spells to fend off ranged people. Its not pure melee, but you got to adapt. I hope close combat has a good chance. And I think with the friendly fire of damage and healing spells, swords are safer.
As for graphics, yeah the video was recorded on the in house test computers at medium settings.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Yes, it dosen`t change my opinion.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
play what? it's still vapors son.
nope
yepe
Or else, show me where to get it...
Loved the action pack video. Yeah the graphics are not the bext, but they are decent. All the freedom within this games makes up for it ten fold. Never seen a trailer with this much in it. It definitely has me drooling to play. No levels, entirely skill based. Not to mention the open looting. I have long missed the days of UO with open looting...I can now satisfy that hunger.
gfx are medium settings brannoc confirmed it in irc after the vid came out
So are all the WAR videos and i think that Warhammers graphics are better. The character models just blah to me. Some of the landscaping is pretty good but still. Im just not impressed by a game thats been developed for as long as it has.
But I guess it all just comes down to opinion I guess. What I think looks like crap could be the most beautiful thing in the world to someone else.
play what? it's still vapors son.
nope
yepe
Or else, show me where to get it...
Show me where to get any game that ISN'T RELEASE YET. Guess Spore, Force Unleashed, Warhammer, Stalker, all vaporwarz..
Darkfall Travelogues!
well graphics < gameplay is my rule. the graphics are lackluster at best but the gameplay looks decent. one thing i will say i am an environment man. i love detailed and packed landscapes and Darkfall wont deliver on that (wasn't expecting it to).
one thing that was missing from the videos that worried me a tad was the lack of anything but players...its nice to kill players but i need to vent my frustrations on animals/monsters eventually
still +1 for the darkfall community and +1 cred to the devs (even if it took so long to release the vid). also +1 to the devs ego for saying 2008 in the videos (until i see mobs and/or public beta of any sort i doubt 2008 will be Darkfalls year).
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Look harder to the video, they are fighting some undead, Sagayel and black knights there.
It does look like there is a game there and that it will see some form of release. I think in the end the game has been in the oven too long, the graphics look incredibly dated and the animations are sub par to say the least.
I think we all need this game to at least make some money so indi developers who are trying to break the mold dont become lessons learnt for the larger mmomakers to point at and say, " THATS why we dont try anything different".
I am an explorer at heart and this game seems to have a huge landmass so I will probably try it, just a shame that landmass looks so 90's. Lets hope the gameplay makes up for it!.
But on a possitive note for those who like this type of gameworld... theres always that Mortal Online game.
OP has been updated with another link to a streaming video version of the full video. The quality is better than the youtube version, but not as good as the torrent.
Enjoy and please PM any other good mirror for the video, as I may miss them in this thread from here on out.
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Naval combat, mounted combat sieges, awsome combat. This game will give any MMORPG out there a run for their money.
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ok, im not a fanboy to any mmo, i dont care about lore i only care about gamplay.
that said, i see no incentive to play darkfall. By that i mean, i see players climbing aboard a ship to fight on it, are they guna capture that ship by doing that, whats the encentive?
they showed city sieges (which looked more boring than WAR sieges) whats the incentive?
i know about the awesome freedom of play in darkfall, but what do you gain through PvP?
this game (PvP wise) seems to be going down the same path as AoC.
WAR has clear incentives in place for PvP ive played it & it works, what does darkfall have thats guna make me wana siege a ship?
im not trying to troll, ill prob try this game, but WAR's RvR works, because there is incentives, why do i wana siege a ship/city in darkfall?
I know there is a lot of discussion around the graphics but lets face it.
If gameplay is solid and its a load of fun then graphics can be upgraded when the broadband and PC's can handle it with this type of game.
If the graphics is amazing and gameplay a pile of shite then its almost impossible to go back and change the engine.
Just watching a ship fire into the front of a structure and hitting players as they run out is pretty ground breaking in my eyes and even though I am a pixel whore I wont care if this game has battles on that scale.
(expecting the usual 3 months of polish post launch like the rest of them still)
Graphics are not important. Animations are not important. Gameplay is important. From watching the HD version of the trailer the gameplay looks amazing.
You can climb things and ambush other players, you can use ships to bombard the shore and kill players., mounted combat, FPS combat system and the list goes on and on.. The gameplay looks amazing and that is all that matters.
Also did anyone else love the fact that you can blast players off a cliff to their death, that was funny as shit.
I can't wait to blow things up with ships, the siege equipment was cool, I love the fact that it floats, it really makes you shows you they are trying to bring something completely new to the MMO world.
A - is my grade for that Trailer.... This is a beta video folks, Animations and graphics can be improved during beta.
Sooner or Later