I feel dirty saying this but WoW crushes this game in most aspects.
WoW PvE is harder, more interesting, more dynamic and far more enjoyable.
WAR PvP is perpetual zerging and comes down to who has more healers/tanks.
The game requires no skill, just a wee bit of understanding and you're a solid player. This is in contrast to WoW where it actually takes some competence to be a top level arena competitor (If you doubt it, go roll a character, win a tourny, and get 50 grand).
Tippy top RvR is almost fun, but not even equal to the new Battlegrounds Blizzard is coming out with in their new expansion.
Ever since I got my beta key several months ago, my opinion of the game has not really improved. It was boring, it is boring, and it will be boring.
A big one is why did Funcom have to feck up so much, seriously if they just put out a more polished product it would wipe Warhammer.
What I like about War.
1) The interface is fast and very easy to understand, good interface
2) Public quests are nice
3) So far it has very few bugs.
What I dont like.
1) Combat...AoC has spoiled me, the melee and ranged combat is very average indeed, compared to AoC its substandard.
2) The graphics are dated. Dont care what anyone says, they simple are.
3) The animations for spells etc, and some aspects of melee, are pretty poor.
4) Character customization is ok, but nothing briliant, again AoC is better, not by much mind.
They put out WoW with a Warhammer skin, im sure it will do ok, but i just wonder, in 6 months when Funcom have dx10 compatibility out, some new content, and hopefully most of the bugs fixed....what then? I will be interesting to see if people give it another whirl when they pump the videos.
Id have to say WoW is better too... "my fingers hurt and I got kinda nauseous when I typed that"
But its true. Now WAR isnt even released yet. Its got tons of patches and new content ahead. It could very well blow me away this time next year. But for now... nope.
I feel dirty saying this but WoW crushes this game in most aspects. WoW PvE is harder, more interesting, more dynamic and far more enjoyable. WAR PvP is perpetual zerging and comes down to who has more healers/tanks. The game requires no skill, just a wee bit of understanding and you're a solid player. This is in contrast to WoW where it actually takes some competence to be a top level arena competitor (If you doubt it, go roll a character, win a tourny, and get 50 grand). Tippy top RvR is almost fun, but not even equal to the new Battlegrounds Blizzard is coming out with in their new expansion. Ever since I got my beta key several months ago, my opinion of the game has not really improved. It was boring, it is boring, and it will be boring.
I see you've made lvl 40, considering that you know the whole game?
/sarcasm off
Lower lvls in any MMO, including WoW, don't require much skill at all. Why? Because starting areas are the begining of the game. They have tutorials and tips to help you learn the game. So, the difficulty setting is set to easy before lvl 10 or 20.
To say that WoW crushes WAR, when you have only played WoW half way or completely through and not to lvl 10 in WAR, is rediculous.
I voted on the poll, but I am not giving my opinion on WAR until I have played it till at least lvl 30. Although, my first impressions so far, are far greater than my first impressions on WoW 3 years ago and my first impressions on WoW were very very good.
Sorry for the flame reply, but I am tired of people playing the first 5 - 10 lvls and then telling others that the game sucks. When everyone knows that MMO gameplay picks up sometime between lvl 15 and 20.
So far the best beta experience i have had since LoTRO i have had very little issues with this game i think i have had 1 CTD and a few lag spikes, and the odd bugged mob but nothing more and im no WAR fanboy but this craps on WoW for fun factor and for Community factor as well this is the only game i have seen besides Ryzom where ppl team together just for the heck of it lol. The Public Quest are a great feature and really draw the Community to work with each other not forcefully but every 1 has a chance to gain from it.
i give this game so far a 8.5/10 and on my charts (not that they mean anything to any 1) that is pretty bloody good.
It's a beta, but since it was sold to me as part of my preorder package, it's not free. It being beta means that it will have bugs, server crashes, etc. problems, I do understand that. But as it's also a service I already paid for, I have every right to except that GOA will be able to provide me some kind of access. So far it's no access and total failure to provide the service. Calling it a beta isn't any execuse for that.
So your going to tell me you paid extra to get your pre order, cause I didn`t if you did you got ripped off. Pre orders are the same price here my friend. Sounds like your issue is with the retailer
I was sold a package with the game and open beta access. Even if the game alone would have cost as much, according to European laws I've paid for both open beta access and the game. Both must be delivered to me.
I'm waiting for GOA to try reopening their account center atm, waiting and hoping I'll actually get to play the game I payed to play.
I wasn't sure about alot of things about WAR but OB has answered those questions for me.
The RVR is just way too much fun. I'm a first time RVR player and I had so much fun bashing people up. I can see myself making many characters going through all of RVR. So far I have been playing a warrior priest and I am loving the class alot.
The graphics are good. They aren't top notch but Mythic does make the world look really nice. Right now I have a 8500gt 512mb and I can say the game runs fine on it. I plan to upgrade asap (personal preference) but for now this will do. Yo do not need the best vid card to make this game look and run well at all. I reccommend that before you do anything, tweak your graphics, mess around with the settings until you find what works for you.
I thought the pve was going to be lame but it is not. PQ's are great and you can find yourself some nice gear. The Tome of Knowledge is great, it tracks everything you do in the game and it is very easy to use. Quest destinations are outlined on your map in red so you know where to go, areas marked in orange are the RVR areas.
The game is far from a WOW clone. The concept of the game is really different and RVR makes it that way, The graphics are better than WOWs, the community so far has been pretty good. Yes there are still some issues but there is nothing game breaking here at all. I got some lag spikes a few times(nothing really major) but hey this is what OB is for, to test the game before release. I expect Mythic to have a great launch and if you had any doubts about the game, just like I did, just grab an OB key (if any are left) and see for yourself. We will NOT have a repeat of AOC and I thank Mythic for that!
I guess we all have opinions, Im canceling WoW and Starting WAR. Why? In this game I actually want to read quests and want to learn about the lore, and there are little things in this game that I enjoy like getting catapulted across the map. Also some of the stuff these goblin npcs say and do are hillarious. I havent had this much fun in years playing a MMO.
I voted above average. Simply because its beta, There are still plenty of bugs (btw make sure to send in bug reports people) i seem to be experiencing a memory leak, and the game overall could use a bit of polish in the UI. Sometimes when you click and ability or a quest window its un responsive.
But overall, i'm having a blast. And i think this game will do very well. And its nice to see a MMO come out of the gate finished to this extent as opposed to some lamers reciently.
Nothing to write home about mind you. It is very much the care-bear RvR/PvP game of the year. With no Stealth/Invisibility/SpeedBuffs/Utility Classes and no death penalty of any sort the sense of tension is very limited in scope. A world without consequences is a world without excitement. Ultimately everyone is a DPS class of some sort the variety is either you are a range DPS or a melee DPS (despite the in game descriptions of the classes). WAR takes the usual MMORPG class arrangement and simply removes key classes (Stealth and Utility) leaving a weak framework with little variety. Characters almost all look and play essentially the same, now this is fine if you are accustomed to games of limited scope such as WoW but for hardcore MMORPGers I think you will get more bang for your buck should you hold on to your coin for some other game (or even pre-existing already released games).
On the up-shot the game runs well on very low end systems, if you can run WoW on max settings than you can run WAR on max settings (with mild frame rate loss ~which we all know is not really a real issue in non reflex based games such as MMORPG's~ with a few exceptions).
Comparing WAR to WOW is VERY valid as the games are similar in many ways. They look the same graphically (stylized colour palate, very limited poly count, simplistic light mapping and shaders), they have the same interface, the worlds are seamless (and small), the over-all number of NPC models and world textures are very limited, and both games have a friendly level curve.
Ultimately this game will give casual gamers the feeling that they are hardcore PvPers much the way that WoW made casual gamers feel that they were hardcore raiders. I’m not going to extrapolate on my meanings of hardcore VS casual as I know it is a subjective definition but none the less they are definitions that members of our community use to describe specific factions of our communities (they are not value judgments they are simply game play styles based on the limiting factors of everyday life).
If you like Wow you will like WAR. WAR could potentially give WoW a run for its money but it will be hard pressed to drag gamers away from the time investment they have already committed to WoW. The accomplishment/acquisition of max level and "high end" raiding gear is significant to a WoW player (as casual gamers have less time to dedicate), and convincing them to start again is unlikely.
Now keep in mind that WAR is still in it's final Beta stage (and the servers are performing as expected ~ which is good news with regards to a stress test AKA: Open Beta); that said it's a bit to late (in the short term) to change many of the factors that I have hit on above.
After playing this for the second time, im convinced Ill never play WoW again. I love what I've seen thus far and I just can't wait to get started on my actual character. Luckily Im still not sure what class I want to be, so I can experiment this week. I love Bright Wizzard and Maurader thus far. Chosen and Swordmaster seem like they will be fun, just not early on.
After playing this for the second time, im convinced Ill never play WoW again. I love what I've seen thus far and I just can't wait to get started on my actual character. Luckily Im still not sure what class I want to be, so I can experiment this week. I love Bright Wizzard and Maurader thus far. Chosen and Swordmaster seem like they will be fun, just not early on.
If you like healers, try them out. They are pretty fun. I'm enjoying my Zealot.
I'm probably going to play my healer when retail is released and the head start starts. Work on him. Then I'll make a chosen down the road. Probably should try out classes this week while it's open beta to make sure it's what I want to do.
LOVING THE GAME WARRR..I'll never go back to wow either. I only liked pvp in wow, warhammer has grabbed my attention.
I quite like it... And on my persinal opinion those that say the game is "Over hyped" Over hyped it them selves, no one else did it for them. Also, people need to stop rating it on only 2 hours of gameplay and get to where it starts getting way way cooler, (AKA lvl 12+)
Wenn nichts mehr geht Werd' ich ein engel sein - Für dich allein Und dir in jeder dunklen nacht erschein' Und dann fliegen wir weit weg von hier Wir werden uns nie mehr verlier'n
A lot of the people bashing this game didn't get past lvl 10 or maybe even 5. No death penalties? lol. No stealth, no buffs, no utility classes? Why don't you pull more shit out of your ass and see what else is up there, maybe we'll find your head.
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I feel dirty saying this but WoW crushes this game in most aspects.
WoW PvE is harder, more interesting, more dynamic and far more enjoyable.
WAR PvP is perpetual zerging and comes down to who has more healers/tanks.
The game requires no skill, just a wee bit of understanding and you're a solid player. This is in contrast to WoW where it actually takes some competence to be a top level arena competitor (If you doubt it, go roll a character, win a tourny, and get 50 grand).
Tippy top RvR is almost fun, but not even equal to the new Battlegrounds Blizzard is coming out with in their new expansion.
Ever since I got my beta key several months ago, my opinion of the game has not really improved. It was boring, it is boring, and it will be boring.
I'l cut it short....WoW is a lot better
My thoughts so far?
A big one is why did Funcom have to feck up so much, seriously if they just put out a more polished product it would wipe Warhammer.
What I like about War.
1) The interface is fast and very easy to understand, good interface
2) Public quests are nice
3) So far it has very few bugs.
What I dont like.
1) Combat...AoC has spoiled me, the melee and ranged combat is very average indeed, compared to AoC its substandard.
2) The graphics are dated. Dont care what anyone says, they simple are.
3) The animations for spells etc, and some aspects of melee, are pretty poor.
4) Character customization is ok, but nothing briliant, again AoC is better, not by much mind.
They put out WoW with a Warhammer skin, im sure it will do ok, but i just wonder, in 6 months when Funcom have dx10 compatibility out, some new content, and hopefully most of the bugs fixed....what then? I will be interesting to see if people give it another whirl when they pump the videos.
unless you can say why...then this is just a troll post.
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I get the crashing as well. Not sure whats up with that. Anyways from what I have played the game is great. P.S. Dark Elf Witches are Hot!!!
I get the crashing as well. Not sure whats up with that. Anyways from what I have played the game is great. P.S. Dark Elf Witches are Hot!!!
whats your setup?
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I like the fact that it runs really well on my craptastic machine
windows xp, 1.5gigs of ram, AMD Barton 2500+, ATI x1650 agp
the witch hunter class has been a lot of fun. I like the mix gun/sword play so far
I see how this will be a nice fun game come release
I havent done RvR yet but thats cause time been limited
just hoping to see how it is when i hit the open beta lvl cap and how couple other classes play
to see if i wanna drop the 50bucks
though my wife would let me because that means i wont be playing WoW which she despises
Id have to say WoW is better too... "my fingers hurt and I got kinda nauseous when I typed that"
But its true. Now WAR isnt even released yet. Its got tons of patches and new content ahead. It could very well blow me away this time next year. But for now... nope.
I see you've made lvl 40, considering that you know the whole game?
/sarcasm off
Lower lvls in any MMO, including WoW, don't require much skill at all. Why? Because starting areas are the begining of the game. They have tutorials and tips to help you learn the game. So, the difficulty setting is set to easy before lvl 10 or 20.
To say that WoW crushes WAR, when you have only played WoW half way or completely through and not to lvl 10 in WAR, is rediculous.
I voted on the poll, but I am not giving my opinion on WAR until I have played it till at least lvl 30. Although, my first impressions so far, are far greater than my first impressions on WoW 3 years ago and my first impressions on WoW were very very good.
Sorry for the flame reply, but I am tired of people playing the first 5 - 10 lvls and then telling others that the game sucks. When everyone knows that MMO gameplay picks up sometime between lvl 15 and 20.
And there is over 20 classes to choose from.
best MMO I have played in years
So far the best beta experience i have had since LoTRO i have had very little issues with this game i think i have had 1 CTD and a few lag spikes, and the odd bugged mob but nothing more and im no WAR fanboy but this craps on WoW for fun factor and for Community factor as well this is the only game i have seen besides Ryzom where ppl team together just for the heck of it lol. The Public Quest are a great feature and really draw the Community to work with each other not forcefully but every 1 has a chance to gain from it.
i give this game so far a 8.5/10 and on my charts (not that they mean anything to any 1) that is pretty bloody good.
So your going to tell me you paid extra to get your pre order, cause I didn`t if you did you got ripped off. Pre orders are the same price here my friend. Sounds like your issue is with the retailer
I was sold a package with the game and open beta access. Even if the game alone would have cost as much, according to European laws I've paid for both open beta access and the game. Both must be delivered to me.
I'm waiting for GOA to try reopening their account center atm, waiting and hoping I'll actually get to play the game I payed to play.
I like the game, but I'll need another more open world mmorpg as well beside this subsciption to fullfill my mmorpg needs.
Warhammer is a fun game, its polished, it's fun and easy to get into.
A lot of improvements since the closed beta which probably indicates mythic has listened to the testers which is a good thing imho.
I wasn't sure about alot of things about WAR but OB has answered those questions for me.
The RVR is just way too much fun. I'm a first time RVR player and I had so much fun bashing people up. I can see myself making many characters going through all of RVR. So far I have been playing a warrior priest and I am loving the class alot.
The graphics are good. They aren't top notch but Mythic does make the world look really nice. Right now I have a 8500gt 512mb and I can say the game runs fine on it. I plan to upgrade asap (personal preference) but for now this will do. Yo do not need the best vid card to make this game look and run well at all. I reccommend that before you do anything, tweak your graphics, mess around with the settings until you find what works for you.
I thought the pve was going to be lame but it is not. PQ's are great and you can find yourself some nice gear. The Tome of Knowledge is great, it tracks everything you do in the game and it is very easy to use. Quest destinations are outlined on your map in red so you know where to go, areas marked in orange are the RVR areas.
The game is far from a WOW clone. The concept of the game is really different and RVR makes it that way, The graphics are better than WOWs, the community so far has been pretty good. Yes there are still some issues but there is nothing game breaking here at all. I got some lag spikes a few times(nothing really major) but hey this is what OB is for, to test the game before release. I expect Mythic to have a great launch and if you had any doubts about the game, just like I did, just grab an OB key (if any are left) and see for yourself. We will NOT have a repeat of AOC and I thank Mythic for that!
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I guess we all have opinions, Im canceling WoW and Starting WAR. Why? In this game I actually want to read quests and want to learn about the lore, and there are little things in this game that I enjoy like getting catapulted across the map. Also some of the stuff these goblin npcs say and do are hillarious. I havent had this much fun in years playing a MMO.
I voted above average. Simply because its beta, There are still plenty of bugs (btw make sure to send in bug reports people) i seem to be experiencing a memory leak, and the game overall could use a bit of polish in the UI. Sometimes when you click and ability or a quest window its un responsive.
But overall, i'm having a blast. And i think this game will do very well. And its nice to see a MMO come out of the gate finished to this extent as opposed to some lamers reciently.
Meh... the game is ok 5/10
Nothing to write home about mind you. It is very much the care-bear RvR/PvP game of the year. With no Stealth/Invisibility/SpeedBuffs/Utility Classes and no death penalty of any sort the sense of tension is very limited in scope. A world without consequences is a world without excitement. Ultimately everyone is a DPS class of some sort the variety is either you are a range DPS or a melee DPS (despite the in game descriptions of the classes). WAR takes the usual MMORPG class arrangement and simply removes key classes (Stealth and Utility) leaving a weak framework with little variety. Characters almost all look and play essentially the same, now this is fine if you are accustomed to games of limited scope such as WoW but for hardcore MMORPGers I think you will get more bang for your buck should you hold on to your coin for some other game (or even pre-existing already released games).
On the up-shot the game runs well on very low end systems, if you can run WoW on max settings than you can run WAR on max settings (with mild frame rate loss ~which we all know is not really a real issue in non reflex based games such as MMORPG's~ with a few exceptions).
Comparing WAR to WOW is VERY valid as the games are similar in many ways. They look the same graphically (stylized colour palate, very limited poly count, simplistic light mapping and shaders), they have the same interface, the worlds are seamless (and small), the over-all number of NPC models and world textures are very limited, and both games have a friendly level curve.
Ultimately this game will give casual gamers the feeling that they are hardcore PvPers much the way that WoW made casual gamers feel that they were hardcore raiders. I’m not going to extrapolate on my meanings of hardcore VS casual as I know it is a subjective definition but none the less they are definitions that members of our community use to describe specific factions of our communities (they are not value judgments they are simply game play styles based on the limiting factors of everyday life).
If you like Wow you will like WAR. WAR could potentially give WoW a run for its money but it will be hard pressed to drag gamers away from the time investment they have already committed to WoW. The accomplishment/acquisition of max level and "high end" raiding gear is significant to a WoW player (as casual gamers have less time to dedicate), and convincing them to start again is unlikely.
Now keep in mind that WAR is still in it's final Beta stage (and the servers are performing as expected ~ which is good news with regards to a stress test AKA: Open Beta); that said it's a bit to late (in the short term) to change many of the factors that I have hit on above.
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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wow 400...did not think i would get so many votes.
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After playing this for the second time, im convinced Ill never play WoW again. I love what I've seen thus far and I just can't wait to get started on my actual character. Luckily Im still not sure what class I want to be, so I can experiment this week. I love Bright Wizzard and Maurader thus far. Chosen and Swordmaster seem like they will be fun, just not early on.
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'Cry Havoc, and Let Loose the Dogs of WARRRRR!!!'
If you like healers, try them out. They are pretty fun. I'm enjoying my Zealot.
I'm probably going to play my healer when retail is released and the head start starts. Work on him. Then I'll make a chosen down the road. Probably should try out classes this week while it's open beta to make sure it's what I want to do.
LOVING THE GAME WARRR..I'll never go back to wow either. I only liked pvp in wow, warhammer has grabbed my attention.
I quite like it... And on my persinal opinion those that say the game is "Over hyped" Over hyped it them selves, no one else did it for them. Also, people need to stop rating it on only 2 hours of gameplay and get to where it starts getting way way cooler, (AKA lvl 12+)
Wenn nichts mehr geht
Werd' ich ein engel sein - Für dich allein
Und dir in jeder dunklen nacht erschein'
Und dann fliegen wir weit weg von hier
Wir werden uns nie mehr verlier'n
A lot of the people bashing this game didn't get past lvl 10 or maybe even 5. No death penalties? lol. No stealth, no buffs, no utility classes? Why don't you pull more shit out of your ass and see what else is up there, maybe we'll find your head.
Terrible game, but the best MMORPG to date, should last me about 10 to 20 years