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DISCLAIMER: If you don't like PvP don't bother with this game. You won't like it.
Earthrise - Official Site
Complete repository of all known information about the game to date.
- No levels, classes, or professions: pure skill system;
- Every item player crafted;
- No instances;
- One Game World (ala EVE); and
- Open PvP.
And most importantly, when is it due for release? Beta is this autumn. Release will be Q1-Q3 2009.
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full pvp? Where's that leave us strict pve'ers?
Hallelujah!
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Exactly, I play MMO's for PVE. If I wanted to play PVP I'll go buy Doom or Halo.
This game looks promising.
http://www.vizualfxstudios.com/crusades/
Sounds like Anarchy Online
Play something else.
you are wise behind your years.
I checked out the site. Looks interesting. I'll add it to my list of MMO's to watch for if SOE is not involved in any way whatsoever.
Now watching Stargate Worlds and Star Trek Online and playing City of Heroes
P.S. Hey since this is a new company, why not give yourselves a competitive edge and come up with a EULA that is more user friendly than the standard version. Just saying players would get say 45 days notice of upcoming changes to game mechanics or content would be huge. Then sell 30 days worth of sub time max. I know a lot of MMO players that would find this very reassuring, and a welcome change from what other companies (like SOE) have done.
I'd also suggest sticking with your original game design rather than making wholesale changes after release. Right now, a lot of the features would really appeal to original SWG fans it seems. Of course some modifications and additions should be doable, but not changes to the original core game, and no bait and switch crap like SOE pulled. My two cents
Good luck to Masthead studios, and maybe see you in 2009.
Earthrise looks great but I will be surprised if it's ready to play in early 2009.
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Just looked up the game on various sites including it's official website.
http://www.play-earthrise.com/index.php
I'm not a hardcore PvP fan and i prefer to have the choice of wether i want to PvP or not, but this game does sound like it's aimed for the Pre-NGE SWG fans. The crafting/resourse/economy sounds like they want something similar to old pre-NGE SWG which pleases me to no end as nothing compares to it these days.
Although TTH (Ten Ton Hammer) view the game to be a heavy mass PvP world, i've read that Masthead are focusing on all aspects of the MMO genre, Heavy PvE, Heavy PvP and seriously Heavy Crafting. PvP lovers get to have their regions for open PvP, PvE/casualplayers like myself get our regions (from reading i've taken into account that it may be possible to go from the PvE zones to PvP ones and Visa Versa though), people who enjoy CRAFTING and playing the ECONOMY get the chance to, no other game on the market can compete to Pre-NGE SWG's crafting/resourse/economy system, this game "could" be the first to equal or outdo it.
The Screenshots provided make the game look good also (they don't compete with AoC's graphics but who wants a heavy graphics game that contains no gameplay)
So far the game sounds good and i for one will be keeping my eyes on it closely.
I have never said this before but EARTHRISE has the potential to be the "NEXT BIG THING."
*sidenote to Masthead if any of them read this* DON'T CHANGE YOUR IDEAS, STICK TO WHAT'S SAID ON YOUR SITE AND AS YOUR PLAN OF ACTION.
**EDIT**
Forgot to add this snippet that i believe was mentioned before but it seems like some didn't read.
The main storyline and all associated quests will be completely solo-friendly and allow each player to explore the island of Enterra at their leisure without requiring additional help – but there will be additional challenges where a player may need friendly support. Also, many of the player-versus-player (PvP) mechanics will be party and guild oriented for those who seek to become involved in the grand struggle for domination over controllable zones and their resources.
This is the proof of the game containing Heavy PvE which is also solo friendly.
It leaves you with lots of other boring themepark games to play.
You can play against the computer in any single player game. Most of them have a co-operative mode so you can play against the computer with your friends if you want to.
MMO's should allow players to interact with each other realisticly. That means fighting them if the need arises. MMO's should stop catering to "strict PvEers" (eg limiting our freedom) and give us more interesting games to play where we can actually use our brains.......games where our choices actually effect each other rather than being told what to do.
I want to play games with and against people, not dumb mobs with bad AI.
Say NO to carebear PvEers. Say YES to realistic conflict and player interaction!
Thanks, I have a new game to watch.
It leaves you with lots of other boring themepark games to play.
You can play against the computer in any single player game. Most of them have a co-operative mode so you can play against the computer with your friends if you want to.
MMO's should allow players to interact with each other realisticly. That means fighting them if the need arises. MMO's should stop catering to "strict PvEers" (eg limiting our freedom) and give us more interesting games to play where we can actually use our brains.......games where our choices actually effect each other rather than being told what to do.
I want to play games with and against people, not dumb mobs with bad AI.
Say NO to carebear PvEers. Say YES to realistic conflict and player interaction!
For the record there aren't many single player games where you can team up with friends against the computer (co-op). There are however a LOT of first person shooters on the market which is essentially PvP.. I aint against PvP but it is the right of each person to choose what they want to do without having to worry about PvP players ganking them for the sake of it.
/end rant.
You mentioned that companies cater to strict PvE'ers?? this is false from my 7 year experience in MMO's, look at the way MMO's have been and are heading.. PvP is what companies aim to include in EVERY MMO, do the PvE players ask it to be removed? no they don't, so why is it that people like Neonwire wish PvE content to be limited or non existant?.. This Earthrise game looks to cater for EVERYONE which hasn't truelly been done since pre-NGE SWG.. so why complain about PvP vs PvE?? if you want to complain about things like that maybe it'd be best to start your own thread on the subject and see what happens.. i bet that you get the PvP players posting with only the odd PvE person posting just to annoy you for a change..
Actually I just read up on Earthrise and I have to admit that I'm rather excited by it. Not only does it look really impressive (I like nice fancy graphics) but it is also full of rather neat ideas. The fact that it is not a level based game (about bloody time!) illiminates the pathetic argument that anti-PvPers always come out with which is "Waaaagghhh I dont want to get ganked by higher level players". As in real life you wont know what other players are capable of. Also as it has a variety of factions you can align yourself with, it seems that the PvP aspect will have a purpose unlike most other mmos previous feeble attempts.
It has the standard PvE aspect as well so its not all just about players shooting each other all the time. There is also a reason in the game why players dont truly die which is nice to see for a change. I know EVE has cloning in it to explain characters immortality but its rare to see any other mmos give it any thought.
Also everything in the game is craftable and player made (just like EVE) which is great! You can even build different mechs which sounds rather interesting. In fact this game does indeed seem like a non-spaceship equivalent of EVE which can only be a good thing. I cant wait!
Its also nice to see a sci-fi mmo being based on an original idea rather than seeing rip-offs of films like Starwars and Star Trek. God I'm so sick to death of the endless line of Starwars games that come out every few years.
It leaves you with lots of other boring themepark games to play.
You can play against the computer in any single player game. Most of them have a co-operative mode so you can play against the computer with your friends if you want to.
MMO's should allow players to interact with each other realisticly. That means fighting them if the need arises. MMO's should stop catering to "strict PvEers" (eg limiting our freedom) and give us more interesting games to play where we can actually use our brains.......games where our choices actually effect each other rather than being told what to do.
I want to play games with and against people, not dumb mobs with bad AI.
Say NO to carebear PvEers. Say YES to realistic conflict and player interaction!
For the record there aren't many single player games where you can team up with friends against the computer (co-op). There are however a LOT of first person shooters on the market which is essentially PvP.. I aint against PvP but it is the right of each person to choose what they want to do without having to worry about PvP players ganking them for the sake of it.
/end rant.
You mentioned that companies cater to strict PvE'ers?? this is false from my 7 year experience in MMO's, look at the way MMO's have been and are heading.. PvP is what companies aim to include in EVERY MMO, do the PvE players ask it to be removed? no they don't, so why is it that people like Neonwire wish PvE content to be limited or non existant?.. This Earthrise game looks to cater for EVERYONE which hasn't truelly been done since pre-NGE SWG.. so why complain about PvP vs PvE?? if you want to complain about things like that maybe it'd be best to start your own thread on the subject and see what happens.. i bet that you get the PvP players posting with only the odd PvE person posting just to annoy you for a change..
You didnt read what I typed properly. I want the same as you. I dont have anything against PvE content but it seems that the majority of MMO's focus too heavily on that and only tack the PvP aspect on as a side thought.......essentially seperating the two from each other. This has resulted in many players having some horrible experiences with PvP especially as most games are level based. Its true that MMO's seem to be trying to incorporate decent player interaction into their games lately though and Earthrise is a prime example of why this is a very good thing. Dont get me wrong I'm not someone who gets a kick out of killing other players (although it can certainly be fun) but I do like the idea that it will be an option if I wanted it. It will be nice for a change to be able to wander out into the wilds knowing that I might encounter human-controlled opponents as well as computer-controlled ones.
To nutshell this, it seems to play like a ground-based EvE Online. Both PvP and PvE. You are apparently open to attack anywhere, though there will be "measures in place" to protect players in some areas (cities, n00b area, ect).
Skill system sounds very preCU.
Offhand, the only thing I find "lacking" is no player housing. Not a deal breaker.
Does sound interesting. But it's very easy to create an interesting-sounding game on a website.
Apparently you can actually build your own player structures so wouldnt that count as "player housing"?
I agree with your last sentence. We will just have to wait and see if it actually delivers what it says on its website.
I didn't know the definition of "interact" was "fighting".
/rollseyes
edit - here is a quote from one of the links:
"Earthrise will also feature full PVP and full looting, meaning you can be attacked anywhere and if you don't have your items insured, the attacker can loot your corpse and take your items."
to me this means you can't go out and pve unless you're willing to pvp at any given moment.
My Apologies Neon wire, it's just the way you worded your first post (#12 in thread) made you out as a Pure PvP player who doesn't want anything to do with PvE and detest it in MMORPG's.
Play something else.
Hmmmm, you display a clear "SOE" attitude. To make it full PvP cuts out about 80% of the market; thus it won't be very successful.
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For the record Earthrise will not feature PvE and PvP "zones." It's all one game world. It closely resembles EVE territory. Yes, there are high security areas where NPCs will stand guard over players but the bulk of the island is lawless and 30-50% of the game space is reserved for the territorial warfare system.
That's not to say this game won't have PvE but if you want to go out adventuring and kill some mutants you should probably prepare for PvP conflict as well. This game does not divorce PvE from PvP nor does it segregate them.
Play something else.
Hmmmm, you display a clear "SOE" attitude. To make it full PvP cuts out about 80% of the market; thus it won't be very successful.
Why don't you tell CCP EVE isn't successful. Oh wait... it is. And it has full PvP. Amazing.
Hallelujah!
LMAO... I'm going to assume Gutboy wasn't around when there was a REAL sandbox, pvpers depended heavily on the sandbox enviroment- where did you have to get your best weapon? Yes a weaponsmith, where did you have to get your best stat armor and get it sliced to cap resist? Yes an armorsmith and smuggler. Sandbox is not the get your best gun or sword from Mustafar quest x and y and get your uber backpack from ISD or get your uber belt & cloak & more weapons through collections.
But I have to agree with some of the other posters, if I want to pvp I've got Call of Duty 2 & 4 and such, people that play MMO games JUST for pvp (and hates pve) doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Hallelujah!
LMAO... I'm going to assume Gutboy wasn't around when there was a REAL sandbox, pvpers depended heavily on the sandbox enviroment- where did you have to get your best weapon? Yes a weaponsmith, where did you have to get your best stat armor and get it sliced to cap resist? Yes an armorsmith and smuggler. Sandbox is not the get your best gun or sword from Mustafar quest x and y and get your uber backpack from ISD or get your uber belt & cloak & more weapons through collections.
But I have to agree with some of the other posters, if I want to pvp I've got Call of Duty 2 & 4 and such, people that play MMO games JUST for pvp (and hates pve) doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Over 90% of my time during the last year before the nge was spent playing my bounty hunter and killing jedi. About the only time I ever did any pve in that time was to get some loot and credits to help further my goal of killing as many jedi as I could (I ended up with exactly 300 kills). So yeah, I guess I'm a carebear.
Gutboy.....Obvious troll is obvious.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
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Play something else.
Hmmmm, you display a clear "SOE" attitude. To make it full PvP cuts out about 80% of the market; thus it won't be very successful.
Why don't you tell CCP EVE isn't successful. Oh wait... it is. And it has full PvP. Amazing.
exactly there is already one game out there like it. How many other people will subscribe to a game like this, if they are already playing eve?
EDIT: BTW this thread is off topic being in this forum, wont be surprised if its locked soon.
EDIT2: would also like to add, that the game world is alot smaller then it should be, and from the looks of it there wont even be any player housing like SWG(mainly because the world is too small). I would like to see a link or some quote from the devs saying they plan on expanding to other continents or something in later patchs/expansions.
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I friggin love PvP, and if the PVE zones put me at risk of player attack, I'd love it all the more
Just my style. I respect others aren't into that, but this is me.
Currently I do the PVE content in City of Heroes PVP zones, just hoping someone will attack me lol. I especially like when stalkers come after me, it makes me feel sexy
Stalker are a stealth-based villain class that act as assasins btw, very ninja like. I love'em. I love to kill'em! wee.