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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Funcom's motto:

    We make SOE look good!

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by OriginalSin


    Hi all and a good evening!!
     
    Was just browsing the forums here and had a funny thought bite my brain.
     
    How happy do you think Sony is right now that there is another company (Funcom) that dropped the ball so bad, its taken the heat off of them for the time being., as far as MMORPG developing goes.
    I can just see the Sony guys high fiving each other right now saying,
    "Yes!! There is someone worse than us now!!"
     
    Just a crazy thought.........although Sony will probably screw up again and buy the rights to Age of Conan when it is almost completely dead and put it into its stable of losers..oops I mean Station Pass.
     
    Sincerely
    Jason - Original Sin

     

    your tlking as if this is Dark and Light, its not. Its just par for the course for MMO's.

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    "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me

    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

    "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

    How are you?" -Me

  • arkady09arkady09 Member Posts: 245

    MSFT could easily buy Sony according to my brief check of Yahoo Finaance.  MSFT is a $235BB market cap compared to Sony at $35BB, so it's 6-7 times as large.  MSFT has $23BB in cash and marketable securities and NO long term debt.  So it could use some cash and borrow some to buy Sony, I would think.  Not that it would, but I think it could.

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  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by ganton


    No way in hell is Funcom worse then Sony. Obviously you werent part of SWG if your claiming that.

    100% true.

    Funcom lied a little bit and made a bad game.Big deal.  SOE lied a LOT and turned a good game that people were playing, paying for, and loving, into a horrible game. Sorry, but there is no contest here. SOE wins the battle for the worst, hands down.

    Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
    Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
    Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
    Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    Originally posted by arkady09
    MSFT could easily buy Sony according to my brief check of Yahoo Finaance.  MSFT is a $235BB market cap compared to Sony at $35BB, so it's 6-7 times as large.  MSFT has $23BB in cash and marketable securities and NO long term debt.  So it could use some cash and borrow some to buy Sony, I would think.  Not that it would, but I think it could.

    Market Cap is more an indicator of overall conifidence in the company by investors. Microsoft has a monopoly and therefore investors feel their money is safe there and are willing to pay higher prices for their stock yet they recieve lower returns. Much like a bond.

    MS:

    Total Cash (mrq): 21.17B
    Total Cash Per Share (mrq): 2.319
    Revenue Per Share (ttm): 6.477
    Book Value Per Share (mrq): 3.965


    Sony:

    Total Cash (mrq): 6.16B
    Total Cash Per Share (mrq): 6.138
    Revenue Per Share (ttm): 82.08
    Book Value Per Share (mrq): 33.200001

    Things like Market cap formulas are what lead to the .com boom and bust in the 90's. The truth is that some companies are run to make their CEO money and others are run to make stock holders money. Sony and MSFT are on opposite sides in that outlook.

    What does this tell you? It tells you that if Apple launched a takeover bid of MS the share prices for MS would plunge. It would be a scarey fall. However if MS did launch a takeover bid of Sony the share prices for Sony would probably triple overnight making it impossible in reality for MS to complete the takeover. However neither scenario is in anyway possible.

    MS couldn't even do a hostile takeover of Yahoo. Yahoo isn't even close to Sony.

  • eq2jseq2js Member Posts: 94

     SOE screwed up your game.  You played it for a while, payed for it, loved it, then most likely quit when they changed it. Funcom lied and got you to  pay for a game that was not at all what they said it was and you payed for it, but didn't enjoy it.

    Funcom=worse

    and some mmo's fail, SWG being one of them. All of SOE's other MMOs are great imo, except for the non-fantasy one, but, well, all non-fantasy MMOs except EVE dont even compare to fantasy MMOs. I dont like EVE, but some people do, and its the most successful scifi MMO ever.

  • eq2jseq2js Member Posts: 94

    Originally posted by teabag

    You do not make any sense, as we all knows that Sony is a fat greedy company that is too big to listen to it own fans as EA is doing now, bar the hardware side. And are you saying that funcom is a hardware company too?. Do funcom make consoles?, do they make Xbox?, Walkman? do Funcom have fat cash cows as fat as Sony?.
    Let me remind you again that Sony can afford a buy-out both Microsoft and Funcom together if they wanted to do so.

    nobody can buy out microsoft <Mod edit>
    , the owner is the richest person in the world. and the company sure as hell has more money than sony since 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPUTERS ARE USING THEIR SOFTWARE!!!
  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    Originally posted by eq2js
    Originally posted by teabag

    You do not make any sense, as we all knows that Sony is a fat greedy company that is too big to listen to it own fans as EA is doing now, bar the hardware side. And are you saying that funcom is a hardware company too?. Do funcom make consoles?, do they make Xbox?, Walkman? do Funcom have fat cash cows as fat as Sony?.
    Let me remind you again that Sony can afford a buy-out both Microsoft and Funcom together if they wanted to do so.

    nobody can buy out microsoft <Mod edit>, the owner is the richest person in the world. and the company sure as hell has more money than sony since 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPUTERS ARE USING THEIR SOFTWARE!!!

    <Mod edit> You think just because MS sells software they are bigger than Sony?

    Yes they make good money no doubt but comparing MS to Sony is ludacris.

    You're right that Sony couldn't buy MS though. MS doesn't treat it's shareholders well but the higher ups own the majority of stock and have lots of money to defend any takeover and ofcourse nobody wants to sell a monopoly. Just ask Sadam.

    Oh and Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world. He is number 3.

  • lumachelumache Member Posts: 314
    Originally posted by eq2js

    Originally posted by teabag


    You do not make any sense, as we all knows that Sony is a fat greedy company that is too big to listen to it own fans as EA is doing now, bar the hardware side. And are you saying that funcom is a hardware company too?. Do funcom make consoles?, do they make Xbox?, Walkman? do Funcom have fat cash cows as fat as Sony?.
    Let me remind you again that Sony can afford a buy-out both Microsoft and Funcom together if they wanted to do so.

    nobody can buy out microsoft you dipshit, the owner is the richest person in the world. and the company sure as hell has more money than sony since 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPUTERS ARE USING THEIR SOFTWARE!!!



     

    Isnt the guy that married Selma Hyack the richest guy in the world now?

    Nope Im wrong its Warren Buffett - http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/05/buffett-worlds-richest-cx_mm_0229buffetrichest.html

    -Lum

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    Originally posted by lumache
    Originally posted by eq2js
    Originally posted by teabag You do not make any sense, as we all knows that Sony is a fat greedy company that is too big to listen to it own fans as EA is doing now, bar the hardware side. And are you saying that funcom is a hardware company too?. Do funcom make consoles?, do they make Xbox?, Walkman? do Funcom have fat cash cows as fat as Sony?.
    Let me remind you again that Sony can afford a buy-out both Microsoft and Funcom together if they wanted to do so.
    nobody can buy out microsoft you dipshit, the owner is the richest person in the world. and the company sure as hell has more money than sony since 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPUTERS ARE USING THEIR SOFTWARE!!!

     
    Isnt the guy that married Selma Hyack the richest guy in the world now?
    Nope Im wrong its Warren Buffett - http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/05/buffett-worlds-richest-cx_mm_0229buffetrichest.html

    Should also remember that the sheiks don't really want you to know how much money they have. Although Gates is 3rd now officially, he's probably about number 20 overall in reality.

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by eq2js


     SOE screwed up your game.  You played it for a while, payed for it, loved it, then most likely quit when they changed it. Funcom lied and got you to  pay for a game that was not at all what they said it was and you payed for it, but didn't enjoy it.
    Funcom=worse
    and some mmo's fail, SWG being one of them. All of SOE's other MMOs are great imo, except for the non-fantasy one, but, well, all non-fantasy MMOs except EVE dont even compare to fantasy MMOs. I dont like EVE, but some people do, and its the most successful scifi MMO ever.

     

    Are you kidding? Are you forgetting the expansion pack they sold everyone 2, yes only 2 days before they announced the NGE, and 2 weeks before it actually went live? The expansion that was such a blatent form of Bait and Switch that they were forced to give refunds to avoid lawsuits? How about the people that bought 3 month, 6 month, or even year subscriptions(which cost way more what AoC cost) and had the game changed under their feet without a refund?

    Funcom hyped up their game, and released an unfinished productwith some missing features. This isn't something new in the gaming industry, and unfortunately in MMO's it happens all the time.

    While you paid $50 and were dissapointed, which could happen with any game you buy, I dumped hundreds of dollars in subscription costs and thousands of hours into a game and had it taken away from me.

    Sorry, there is still no comparison, Sony wins hands down.

    And just to clarify, in no way shape or form was SWG failing. It just wasn't succeeding *enough* in sony and Lucas eyes, which saw what WoW was doing. How many games have done what WoW did? None.

    Actually, I would say that Fantasy doesn't compare to sci-fi at all. There haven't been very many sci-fi MMO's made, but imo two of the best MMO's I've ever played were both sci-fi, that is SWG and Eve.

    Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
    Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
    Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
    Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

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