...and you have no idea of what makes a great game. I dont think this made any sense javac. I find Darkfall's dark and gritty style to be better and more realistic. Other games can keep their high detail textures designed for kids, i'll take a realistic style backed up with realistic lighting any day. I already said it, but I will say it again, Darkfall is not realistic, take the black knight example, it is even more cartoony than some games that use a caricature style. Dark and gretty? The game is ultra colored, check the screenshot you posted, the armor is shinning more than a brand new silver plate, where is the darkness and violence in this world full of color, shinning metal and goofy characters? The concept of the game may be darker, but the art direction is not. ... anyway, I think there is no point to go on with this.
Warhammer screenshots on the warhammeronline site:
...Horrible.
war imo has nice charecter models. but bad lighting, shadow and textures make it look kinda meh...
I love Warhammer graphics or art whatever you wanna call it , except the dark elfs dont look as good as the others races , imo better than anything DF has shown me then again that MY taste .
war imo has nice charecter models. but bad lighting, shadow and textures make it look kinda meh...
lights and shadows are really poorly done in a lot of MMOs, even recent ones like Aion, there are only character shadows, not shadows from other objects. Thing is, you don't really notice until you stare at Darkfall screenshots like the one below for a while then anything without shadows looks terrible to you.
eg -- note the correctness and detail of the shadows on everything.
DF have the worst weapons models i ever seen in any mmo , what were they thinking ewww!
I love them, they look like they could be real weapons, not this ridiculous stylised crap that WoW introduced that noone would ever use in a real fight.
I love them, they look like they could be real weapons, not this ridiculous stylised crap that WoW introduced that noone would ever use in a real fight.
No, they doesnt look like real weapons...
Check the Darkfall's Signature Weapons post, the hammer, the halberd are totally cartoony, similar to toys...
Warhammer screenshots on the warhammeronline site:
...Horrible.
war imo has nice charecter models. but bad lighting, shadow and textures make it look kinda meh...
I love Warhammer graphics or art whatever you wanna call it , except the dark elfs dont look as good as the others races , imo better than anything DF has shown me then again that MY taste .
DF have the worst weapons models i ever seen in any mmo , what were they thinking ewww!
I love them, they look like they could be real weapons, not this ridiculous stylised crap that WoW introduced that noone would ever use in a real fight.
emmm you mean these wepons look real?
it looks worse that what wow has produced. and i dislike the wepon desighn in wow
Sorry for all the DF butt kissers :P but I think the Darkfall graphics are....messy, no definition wat so ever, I don't know if it is my eyes playing up or wat but its kind of hard to see the characters and what they are doing.
Also I still stick to my statement, lag fest here we come. And btw yes my computer is extremely capable of running Crysis hands down, its not about my computer running the graphics, its everyones pc's and the how the server will handle transfering all the data that will make it a lag fest. Not every computer will be able to run those graphics by a long way, and I've seen games that don't have to run great graphics and still be lag fests!
The frame rate, i think from looking at those pics will be hidious, real time shadows and lighting will drain away those frames and it would take an hour to load to start with lol!
I still don't beleive it will happen, i'm not a troll or non of that cr*p, I'd like to try the game out, think a sandbox game will be cool for once, don't know about the pvp, and gank fest kiddies but the rest seems cool, just a bit to good to be true.
does anyone actually turn on shadows in a pvp mmo ?? i know i dont shadow are a real fps hog and ialways turn them off in every game . dont you guys do that also ?
does anyone actually turn on shadows in a pvp mmo ?? i know i dont shadow are a real fps hog and ialways turn them off in every game . dont you guys do that also ?
Yeah i also turn off shadows i tried them out in the wow PTR and it raped my FPS. lol...poor ol'betsy coming on 5 years now with no upgrades...poor old girl.
I love them, they look like they could be real weapons, not this ridiculous stylised crap that WoW introduced that noone would ever use in a real fight.
No, they doesnt look like real weapons...
Check the Darkfall's Signature Weapons post, the hammer, the halberd are totally cartoony, similar to toys...
you mean like WoW weapons? No.... if you look at them in game they look great.
The halberd is based off the design of real weapons (eg: Voulge, Bardiche) from the middle ages.
does anyone actually turn on shadows in a pvp mmo ?? i know i dont shadow are a real fps hog and ialways turn them off in every game . dont you guys do that also ?
I don't think players will be allowed to turn off shadows completely, only to make them low-quality, because of the importance of shadows to stealth.
...and this is where Darkfall's graphics direction shines -- they deliberately chose to go with a lot lower polygon character models so that they could do full-scene dynamic shadows, so that they could have true stealth, instead of pseudo-magical invisibility as it is in other MMOs.
it will take actual skill to stealth in DF... true stealth and high FPS are easily worth the small sacrifice in graphics quality IMO...
Sorry for all the DF butt kissers :P but I think the Darkfall graphics are....messy, no definition wat so ever, I don't know if it is my eyes playing up or wat but its kind of hard to see the characters and what they are doing. Also I still stick to my statement, lag fest here we come. And btw yes my computer is extremely capable of running Crysis hands down, its not about my computer running the graphics, its everyones pc's and the how the server will handle transfering all the data that will make it a lag fest. Not every computer will be able to run those graphics by a long way, and I've seen games that don't have to run great graphics and still be lag fests! The frame rate, i think from looking at those pics will be hidious, real time shadows and lighting will drain away those frames and it would take an hour to load to start with lol!
I still don't beleive it will happen, i'm not a troll or non of that cr*p, I'd like to try the game out, think a sandbox game will be cool for once, don't know about the pvp, and gank fest kiddies but the rest seems cool, just a bit to good to be true. Bah its all my opinon, probably not of others.
Well, you just proved you know nothing about how games work...
Server and client only exchange data about positions and movement of characters and objects in the game, which is always less than 5KB/sec, which is why even today's MMOs can still be run over a modem.Graphics quality does not matter. Only the number of characters, objects and projectiles matter for client-server lag (not counting basic network latency (ping)).
The client already has a full copy of all art assets before the game is even started. The graphics setting on your computer affect noone else's and noone else's graphics affect yours.
As for the PVP, it will be as real as it gets. People will attack you, and if you die you lose everything you have on you. If you win, you gain everything your opponent had. Risk and reward.
I actually think DF shadows are ugly. They are way too sharp. Shadows should be soft. Character models look cool. Character animation suck unfortunately.
Try looking at your own shadow in bright sunlight - it has hard edges. The softer the light, the softer the edges of the shadow.
Only certain animations need work, eg: dwarves walking down slopes, the majority of animations are quite good, especially mounts.
Children, children! It doesn't matter how many of DF's best/worst screenshots you compare to those of some other random game, you can't objectively measure art style, so stop trying.
You may as well all be arguing that DF is worse than WAR because DF's colour scheme is gold and WAR's is red, and gold is a stupid colour that isn't consistent. That's just dumb, it's entirely opinion. If you don't like DF's art style so much so that you think it will prohibit you from playing the game, well, that sucks for you, but fair enough. But try to argue that you think the game will fail because you personally don't like the style, and you're just trolling (or intensely stupid, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).
Children, children! It doesn't matter how many of DF's best/worst screenshots you compare to those of some other random game, you can't objectively measure art style, so stop trying.
You may as well all be arguing that DF is worse than WAR because DF's colour scheme is gold and WAR's is red, and gold is a stupid colour that isn't consistent. That's just dumb, it's entirely opinion. If you don't like DF's art style so much so that you think it will prohibit you from playing the game, well, that sucks for you, but fair enough. But try to argue that you think the game will fail because you personally don't like the style, and you're just trolling (or intensely stupid, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).
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war imo has nice charecter models. but bad lighting, shadow and textures make it look kinda meh...
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war imo has nice charecter models. but bad lighting, shadow and textures make it look kinda meh...
I love Warhammer graphics or art whatever you wanna call it , except the dark elfs dont look as good as the others races , imo better than anything DF has shown me then again that MY taste .
lights and shadows are really poorly done in a lot of MMOs, even recent ones like Aion, there are only character shadows, not shadows from other objects. Thing is, you don't really notice until you stare at Darkfall screenshots like the one below for a while then anything without shadows looks terrible to you.
eg -- note the correctness and detail of the shadows on everything.
DF have the worst weapons models i ever seen in any mmo , what were they thinking ewww!
shadows will even look better when in motion....
I love them, they look like they could be real weapons, not this ridiculous stylised crap that WoW introduced that noone would ever use in a real fight.
No, they doesnt look like real weapons...
Check the Darkfall's Signature Weapons post, the hammer, the halberd are totally cartoony, similar to toys...
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war imo has nice charecter models. but bad lighting, shadow and textures make it look kinda meh...
I love Warhammer graphics or art whatever you wanna call it , except the dark elfs dont look as good as the others races , imo better than anything DF has shown me then again that MY taste .
yes they blw df out the water
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I love them, they look like they could be real weapons, not this ridiculous stylised crap that WoW introduced that noone would ever use in a real fight.
emmm you mean these wepons look real?
it looks worse that what wow has produced. and i dislike the wepon desighn in wow
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Sorry for all the DF butt kissers :P but I think the Darkfall graphics are....messy, no definition wat so ever, I don't know if it is my eyes playing up or wat but its kind of hard to see the characters and what they are doing.
Also I still stick to my statement, lag fest here we come. And btw yes my computer is extremely capable of running Crysis hands down, its not about my computer running the graphics, its everyones pc's and the how the server will handle transfering all the data that will make it a lag fest. Not every computer will be able to run those graphics by a long way, and I've seen games that don't have to run great graphics and still be lag fests!
The frame rate, i think from looking at those pics will be hidious, real time shadows and lighting will drain away those frames and it would take an hour to load to start with lol!
I still don't beleive it will happen, i'm not a troll or non of that cr*p, I'd like to try the game out, think a sandbox game will be cool for once, don't know about the pvp, and gank fest kiddies but the rest seems cool, just a bit to good to be true.
Bah its all my opinon, probably not of others.
Sigh, DF haters will be DF haters.
does anyone actually turn on shadows in a pvp mmo ?? i know i dont shadow are a real fps hog and ialways turn them off in every game . dont you guys do that also ?
my rig can handle so no.
only game i had shadow problems with was in eq2.
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Yeah i also turn off shadows i tried them out in the wow PTR and it raped my FPS. lol...poor ol'betsy coming on 5 years now with no upgrades...poor old girl.
No, they doesnt look like real weapons...
Check the Darkfall's Signature Weapons post, the hammer, the halberd are totally cartoony, similar to toys...
you mean like WoW weapons? No.... if you look at them in game they look great.
The halberd is based off the design of real weapons (eg: Voulge, Bardiche) from the middle ages.
for crappiness, definitely.
I don't think players will be allowed to turn off shadows completely, only to make them low-quality, because of the importance of shadows to stealth.
...and this is where Darkfall's graphics direction shines -- they deliberately chose to go with a lot lower polygon character models so that they could do full-scene dynamic shadows, so that they could have true stealth, instead of pseudo-magical invisibility as it is in other MMOs.
it will take actual skill to stealth in DF... true stealth and high FPS are easily worth the small sacrifice in graphics quality IMO...
No that's not one of my favourites. the in-game screenshots of the axe look less WoW-ish, it's just the lack of context that ruins it.
Well, you just proved you know nothing about how games work...
Server and client only exchange data about positions and movement of characters and objects in the game, which is always less than 5KB/sec, which is why even today's MMOs can still be run over a modem.Graphics quality does not matter. Only the number of characters, objects and projectiles matter for client-server lag (not counting basic network latency (ping)).
The client already has a full copy of all art assets before the game is even started. The graphics setting on your computer affect noone else's and noone else's graphics affect yours.
As for the PVP, it will be as real as it gets. People will attack you, and if you die you lose everything you have on you. If you win, you gain everything your opponent had. Risk and reward.
I dont think this made any sense javac.
I meant that great graphics does not make great gameplay.
I actually think DF shadows are ugly. They are way too sharp. Shadows should be soft.
Character models look cool. Character animation suck unfortunately.
Try looking at your own shadow in bright sunlight - it has hard edges. The softer the light, the softer the edges of the shadow.
Only certain animations need work, eg: dwarves walking down slopes, the majority of animations are quite good, especially mounts.
Children, children! It doesn't matter how many of DF's best/worst screenshots you compare to those of some other random game, you can't objectively measure art style, so stop trying.
You may as well all be arguing that DF is worse than WAR because DF's colour scheme is gold and WAR's is red, and gold is a stupid colour that isn't consistent. That's just dumb, it's entirely opinion. If you don't like DF's art style so much so that you think it will prohibit you from playing the game, well, that sucks for you, but fair enough. But try to argue that you think the game will fail because you personally don't like the style, and you're just trolling (or intensely stupid, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).
so mature is ugly?
never knew that....
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