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WAR is WoW with slower combat.

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    *bangs head on desk*

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  • 4Renziks4Renziks Member UncommonPosts: 390

    Let me guess played till level 5 right?  I agree its like wow in the fact that it has improved everything linear mmos offer. i think alot of people think its such a wow clone because the UI looks the same.

    playing: Dragon Age
    Waiting: for FF14, Mass Effect
    Want to try: Fallen Earth

  • teknicianteknician Member UncommonPosts: 270

    People didn't leave AoC for WAR, they just left AoC.

  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964

    The question still remains..

    Why to most ppl go thru the hassle of creating a new account on mmorpg.com to vent their frustations?

    I could never figure this out...

     

  • _Seeker_Seeker Member Posts: 175

    What?

  • Dreizack1Dreizack1 Member Posts: 28

    WaR is going to be a bigger failure than Hellgate London.  Imagine all the mindless idiots out there that play WoW, do you think they are going to leave to play a game that is just a shittier version of the game they currently play?  Why leave WoW to play WoW 2.0 when WoW 2.0 is worse than the original?  Face it WaR is going to be a flop just like EA's other MMO Hellgate London. 

  • teknicianteknician Member UncommonPosts: 270
    Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS


    The question still remains..
    Why to most ppl go thru the hassle of creating a new account on mmorpg.com to vent their frustations?
    I could never figure this out...
     

    It's just one of those great mysteries of life.

  • Dreizack1Dreizack1 Member Posts: 28
    Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS


    The question still remains..
    Why to most ppl go thru the hassle of creating a new account on mmorpg.com to vent their frustations?
    I could never figure this out...
     


    It's not a hassle when I think of the people my comments will help. If just one person doesn't waste $50 dollars on this game because of something I said, it'll be worth it.

  • SweeetSweeet Member Posts: 135

    Someone obviously didn't RvR much, if at all...

    To wank, or not to wank. The ultimate MMO sacrifice.

  • p4nd4m45t3rp4nd4m45t3r Member Posts: 24

    bad troll is BAD! ! I created an account to participate in the raffles and beta invite sweepstakes :P

  • Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324

    CAUTION!!!

     

    Anyone who listens to anything Driezack has said about WAR will become dumber.  Thats all.

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  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    I do not understand why people say the graphics are not the same as in wow. Do you people even look at the game you are playing? Seriously warhammer graphics are a tad better then wow. Anyone else who disagrees does not want to face the facts.

    i thought the combat in warcraft was slow. If this game is even slower i do not even want to bother with it. Conans combat was fun swinging your sword in different directions and doing combos was awesome. Anyone who thinks otherwise are just too use to the point and click and fear change.

     

  • ThreetownsThreetowns Member UncommonPosts: 322
    Originally posted by Dreizack1


    WaR is going to be a bigger failure than Hellgate London.  Imagine all the mindless idiots out there that play WoW, do you think they are going to leave to play a game that is just a shittier version of the game they currently play?  Why leave WoW to play WoW 2.0 when WoW 2.0 is worse than the original?  Face it WaR is going to be a flop just like EA's other MMO Hellgate London. 



    wow so much anger ?  Anger leads to the dark side..  :)

    It be ok, just relax..  While we playing war, have some Coffee.  breath in out, realx. it be ok..

  • Schonk31Schonk31 Member Posts: 72
    Originally posted by Dreizack1


     I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

    Please go back to AoC and stay there.  You doing so will mean more bandwidth for me and one less whiner on a server.

  • Dreizack1Dreizack1 Member Posts: 28
    Originally posted by ASmith84


    I do not understand why people say the graphics are not the same as in wow. Do you people even look at the game you are playing? Seriously warhammer graphics are a tad better then wow. Anyone else who disagrees does not want to face the facts.
    i thought the combat in warcraft was slow. If this game is even slower i do not even want to bother with it. Conans combat was fun swinging your sword in different directions and doing combos was awesome. Anyone who thinks otherwise are just too use to the point and click and fear change.
     

     

    Well said my friend.

  • aurickaurick Member Posts: 317

    I would have agreed with the OP if I'd stopped playing my Witch Hunter (or just about any other class in the game) before level 5.  During the earliest levels, combat feels very much like WoW except with fewer abilities and so a slower pace.

    Making things worse with the Witch Hunter was that your attacks each generate an accusation (the game's term for a combo point), and these open up executions (the game's term for finishing blows).  On the surface, the mechanic seemed identical to WoW.  By level 8, that had changed.  Yes, the mechanic is the same on the surface, but the actual play of the character ends up being very different.  For one thing, accusations/combos apply to YOU rather than your enemy.  That means you can switch targets at any time without penalty.  For onother, you start getting tactics and morale abilities.  This means that there's a lot more potential for strategy.  Is an enemy almost dead right when you get 5 accusation built up?  Don't waste that execution!  Finish him off with regular attacks, then start off against your new foe with a really deadly attack!  If you've also been on a kill streak you could even have enough morale built up to use one of those abilities.  If you work the combat so that both execution and morale become available at the same time, you can take out an equal level enemy in two hits.  It's brutal.

    Then there's also the business of tactics.  And when you finally get stealth at level 10 that requires a lot more skill than WoW's stealth system.  For one thing, it slowly drains your action points.  Which means that the longer you spend in stealth the weaker you become.  You cannot afford to just prowl the battlefield with impunity.  You have to be quick and smart.

    That's just the Witch Hunter.  Every single class I've progressed to level 10 has proven to have surprising depth that could not be anticipated from the first 4 or 5 levels.  All of them have proven to have very engaging combat that feels more strategic and less twitchy than WoW.  HOWEVER, the classes only work well if you truly understand your abilities and the synergies between them.  I think this is why WAR took the approach of granting only one or two abilities at each level, but also giving you something new at almost EVERY level.  This gives you time to figure out the secrets of each new ability before it dumps something else on you. 

    There really is a lot of depth for those who bother to give it a chance.

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  • coppercladcopperclad Member Posts: 92

    OP, every one of the posts you have made with that account have been WAR bashing, OK we get it, you like AOC. Now head on back there and go gank lowbies in whitesands with all the other good trolls.

    And saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that, with it, thou mayest blow thine enemies to tiny bits....in thy mercy."

  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964
    Originally posted by Dreizack1

    Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS


    The question still remains..
    Why to most ppl go thru the hassle of creating a new account on mmorpg.com to vent their frustations?
    I could never figure this out...
     


    It's not a hassle when I think of the people my comments will help. If just one person doesn't waste $50 dollars on this game because of something I said, it'll be worth it.



     

    Too much time on the hands?

    Your a funny guy..

  • aurickaurick Member Posts: 317
    Originally posted by Dreizack1

    Originally posted by ASmith84


    I do not understand why people say the graphics are not the same as in wow. Do you people even look at the game you are playing? Seriously warhammer graphics are a tad better then wow. Anyone else who disagrees does not want to face the facts.
    i thought the combat in warcraft was slow. If this game is even slower i do not even want to bother with it. Conans combat was fun swinging your sword in different directions and doing combos was awesome. Anyone who thinks otherwise are just too use to the point and click and fear change.
     

     

    Well said my friend.

    I liked AoC's combos.  At first.  I later realized that they were just password-protected skills.  The game creates the illusion of faster-paced combat by requiring you to push more buttons in order to accomplish the same number of skills.

    That's not innovation; it's a smoke and mirrors act.

    The truly innovative thing about AoC was the shields.  The problem is that your own shields are useless because controlling them is awkward in the extreme.  And as for the enemy shields, those stop being important as you increase in level and it starts taking more and more time to enter the passwords that fire off your combos.  All too often the enemy's shields change between when you started your combo and when you finish it, resulting in negligible damage.  Which reduces your PvE effectiveness to luck rather than skill.

    I'll take genuine skill and strategy over mindless button mashing any day.  WAR has that, provided you stick with it more than the first few levels.  I'm sorry, but AoC did not.

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  • HivesHives Member UncommonPosts: 203

    These kind of topics are getting old, it's easy if you don't like it then move on that's what I did. I think it comes down to personal opinion when judging graphics, I prefer WoWs graphics over WAR because I just like how the models are thicker.

  • supbrosupbro Member Posts: 327
    Originally posted by Dreizack1


    I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.
    WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 
    I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

     

    I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC's revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

    GW2 the future of MMO gaming

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