from an artistic eye, and most people who are artistic will tell you that wow and war game artists are more talented than the vanguards ones..it doesn't matter what your opinion is, that fact wont change..its like how asians mmo's artists are head and shoulders above western ones.
For someone that's been putting pencil and paint to paper and canvas for over 20 years now, I would have to disagree with you.
You didn't state a fact so it's possible to change.
Neither art is any better then the other; nor the artists more talented then the other.
I can draw a photorealistic portraite that not many artists are capable of doing, this doesn't make me any better then someone that does manga.
Also to note, being artistic and being accomplished artistically are entirely dif. things. You may think you're artistic and be able to produce something a little more intricate then a stick figure, but that hardly makes you accomplished let alone an authority on what is talent and what isn't. It's also rather self righteous and snobbish to make an assumption like the one you made. The magority of the people in the world have some level of artistic talent, most just don't realize it.
You promote creativety and imagination through art by encouraging others with the desire to be artists to do a variety of things, not by telling one set of people they aren't as good because you prefer another style over thiers.
The arrogance that comes across in that first sentence just eats at me.
Edit: You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion of what art is. Now the last sentence is really bugging the hell out of me. It's hardly as simple as Western over Eastern. There's a lot inbetween.
its not being narrow-minded. he just wanted to say that "WoW and FF is still the best games AND dont waste your time playing this crap."
a thread will not stop fans and believers in playing this game. you have option to say that, i respect you. but respect those people who enjoy this game.
from an artistic eye, and most people who are artistic will tell you that wow and war game artists are more talented than the vanguards ones..it doesn't matter what your opinion is, that fact wont change..its like how asians mmo's artists are head and shoulders above western ones.
For someone that's been putting pencil and paint to paper and canvas for over 20 years now, I would have to disagree with you.
You didn't state a fact so it's possible to change.
Neither art is any better then the other; nor the artists more talented then the other.
I can draw a photorealistic portraite that not many artists are capable of doing, this doesn't make me any better then someone that does manga.
Also to note, being artistic and being accomplished artistically are entirely dif. things. You may think you're artistic and be able to produce something a little more intricate then a stick figure, but that hardly makes you accomplished let alone an authority on what is talent and what isn't. It's also rather self righteous and snobbish to make an assumption like the one you made. The magority of the people in the world have some level of artistic talent, most just don't realize it.
You promote creativety and imagination through art by encouraging others with the desire to be artists to do a variety of things, not by telling one set of people they aren't as good because you prefer another style over thiers.
The arrogance that comes across in that first sentence just eats at me.
Edit: You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion of what art is. Now the last sentence is really bugging the hell out of me. It's hardly as simple as Western over Eastern. There's a lot inbetween.
its not being narrow-minded. he just wanted to say that "WoW and FF is still the best games AND dont waste your time playing this crap."
a thread will not stop fans and believers in playing this game. you have option to say that, i respect you. but respect those people who enjoy this game.
emm
when did i say WoW was the best game? when i made this topic i had just re-activated my WoW account to give it another go. iv already unistalled it from my computer cos i got bored after a week.
My biggest gripe with the graphics was that world objects don't have shadows. Trees seem to be floating on the ground, detached from it. Everything has this plasticky look as a result. I hope they add shadows one day like every game since the turn of the century has.
The trees cast shadows. I haven't seen any trees that appear to be floating.
from an artistic eye, and most people who are artistic will tell you that wow and war game artists are more talented than the vanguards ones..it doesn't matter what your opinion is, that fact wont change..its like how asians mmo's artists are head and shoulders above western ones.
For someone that's been putting pencil and paint to paper and canvas for over 20 years now, I would have to disagree with you.
You didn't state a fact so it's possible to change.
Neither art is any better then the other; nor the artists more talented then the other.
I can draw a photorealistic portraite that not many artists are capable of doing, this doesn't make me any better then someone that does manga.
Also to note, being artistic and being accomplished artistically are entirely dif. things. You may think you're artistic and be able to produce something a little more intricate then a stick figure, but that hardly makes you accomplished let alone an authority on what is talent and what isn't. It's also rather self righteous and snobbish to make an assumption like the one you made. The magority of the people in the world have some level of artistic talent, most just don't realize it.
You promote creativety and imagination through art by encouraging others with the desire to be artists to do a variety of things, not by telling one set of people they aren't as good because you prefer another style over thiers.
The arrogance that comes across in that first sentence just eats at me.
Edit: You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion of what art is. Now the last sentence is really bugging the hell out of me. It's hardly as simple as Western over Eastern. There's a lot inbetween.
its not being narrow-minded. he just wanted to say that "WoW and FF is still the best games AND dont waste your time playing this crap."
a thread will not stop fans and believers in playing this game. you have option to say that, i respect you. but respect those people who enjoy this game.
I'm really not understanding how that has anything to do with what I wrote.
I tried VG at launch and like many others had great anitcipation for the game. And like many others was very disappointed in what I experienced. One of my pet peeves about it were the character models. In this I totally agree with the OP.
I really think its more a question of the "Art Direction" of the game. Its lacking. Its unimaginative at best and just plain lifeless at worst. Sure it has depth, but I found the lack of critters, and other things that bring a landscape "alive" to be altogether absent for the most part. This is my opinion of course. As far as the models, their lifeless, blank stare along with the rigidity of their bodies were bizarre and kinda spooky. I couldnt get over my Bear Shaman staring blankly forward, even my cartoony WOW priests looks about herself. On the other hand I think the art direction in WOW is superb. The landscape is interesting, things in it catch your eye, its the little things that make the game feel living. I dont mind the models in WOW, at least their eyes move and since the Armour and weapons in WOW look like candy, at least you can dress them up to look pretty if your willing to do some raiding and get some enchants
Anyway thats my take on it. And I see just where the OP is coming from. You couldnt pay me to reinstall that load of bird turds called VG on my computer again, at least he is giving it a chance.
they say they improved toon animation,its just as bad as it ever was and toons are still pretty ugly
the trial island looks poorly made. but iv been in the game and it looks a ton better. not a very good example of how nice vg landscape is.
meh...its a shame...game itself is not bad....its just so ugly..
Can you be specific in which you mean by 'ugly'? Do you mean 'cartoonish' and 'brightly coloured' like WoW or FFXI? Those kind of games tend to be for younger players.
Ive been playing warhammer online and vangaurd lately and I think warhammer has better art than VG at the moment, especially the player models. VG is too plastic like and the animations are bad.
The lag was so hurrendous I think I made it to level 5 before. The thing that made it worse was that what was lagging didn't look too pretty. Gonna try the new isle tonight :P
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from an artistic eye, and most people who are artistic will tell you that wow and war game artists are more talented than the vanguards ones..it doesn't matter what your opinion is, that fact wont change..its like how asians mmo's artists are head and shoulders above western ones.
Completely agree here. VG's artists are a step above EQ2's, but that isn't saying much really...(not counting the SOGA artists)
Most of the people who think the player models look good just don't really know any better. It's like people who think Ctrl+Alt+Del is a compelling comic with great art, jokes, characters, and writing. Obviously art is subjective (like everything else), but there is a standard and level of quality. Some people just don't get it, and will react to criticism by calling people arrogant snobs
But the fact of the matter is the character models ARE poorly made, and they'll stay that way forever until the get remodeled
from an artistic eye, and most people who are artistic will tell you that wow and war game artists are more talented than the vanguards ones..it doesn't matter what your opinion is, that fact wont change..its like how asians mmo's artists are head and shoulders above western ones.
Completely agree here. VG's artists are a step above EQ2's, but that isn't saying much really...(not counting the SOGA artists)
Most of the people who think the player models look good just don't really know any better. It's like people who think Ctrl+Alt+Del is a compelling comic with great art, jokes, characters, and writing. Obviously art is subjective (like everything else), but there is a standard and level of quality. Some people just don't get it, and will react to criticism by calling people arrogant snobs
But the fact of the matter is the character models ARE poorly made, and they'll stay that way forever until the get remodeled
You, like the guy you quoted don't know the dif. between art and technical ability aparently.
Poor lighting across models, animations, and skeleton structure are one thing.
The art is in the textures.
An artist doesn't sit down and drow the up the models, the concept and texture artists do. There is a world of dif. here, and unless you or the guy that you quoted can demonstrate an ability to even do what the artists in VG or any other game do I'll continue to reserve the right to point out that saying someone has no talent because you think you that having an "artistic eye" empowers you the right to say such things.
That is arrogant and snobbish.
How about you or the guy you quoted show us how much more talented either of you are. I got a feeling neither of you are.
I'd say the key here is the difference between art and artistic direction; if you look at VG objects individually, they are very well made and very detailed. However as a whole they fail to match and create a convincing effect. Some items are almost photo-realistic, others more cartoony (and a few right out bland), and when they combine the result is uninspired.
I agree that the default humans in Vanguard look a little....special
But, add a few minutes of modification
I could have done a better job on the proportions but you get the idea. If your going to stare at the same face every single time you log on you might as well take a few minutes and play around with the settings.
There are four or five face templates you can choose from before you even start modifiying the facial features. All in all you can make your character look pretty unique.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
"Hey guys and gals,
We are aware that there are animations within our game that is not up to par. It will be addressed, but is a separate pass than "PC phase 2". The animation pass is a pretty big task and we did not want to delay the release of the new PC models."
I'm not going to agrue whether or not you modified a character to make the game look bad. You might have modified it to your liking but it is none of the humans look like that by default.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
"Hey guys and gals,
We are aware that there are animations within our game that is not up to par. It will be addressed, but is a separate pass than "PC phase 2". The animation pass is a pretty big task and we did not want to delay the release of the new PC models."
I'm not going to agrue whether or not you modified a character to make the game look bad. You might have modified it to your liking but it is none of the humans look like that by default.
An exact date for new animations is speculation at this point but I hope it comes soon. I don't mind the animations but I agree there should be more deversity in the auto attack department. Most special attack animations are pretty nice.
Edit: Since you said fixing the animations you may have meant syncronization between attack animations and actually damaging the mob. When you lag the syncronization can be thrown off. I noticed that when I got a new machine (single core 1.67Hz FTW!) I no longer had an animation synch problem.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
Did it occur to you that maybe you simply are pretty crappy at making characters and that it is not so much the game graphics that are ugly but your own ability at designing characters that is failing?
The one player character above is quite pretty i must say.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
Did it occur to you that maybe you simply are pretty crappy at making characters and that it is not so much the game graphics that are ugly but your own ability at designing characters that is failing?
The one player character above is quite pretty i must say.
no.
other players around me looked ugly aswell.
mainly due to animation. and most males have very weird looking upper-body.
also my head looked fine with no healm. but with healm it looked shit. and there was no option to hide helm
It's pretty funny your here... giving VG crap about it's animations. When FFXI has some of the worst animations around. Granted it's older and god forbid Sigil should have made better ones for a newer game.
But the constant crying from people talking bout them is old and annoying now.
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For someone that's been putting pencil and paint to paper and canvas for over 20 years now, I would have to disagree with you.
You didn't state a fact so it's possible to change.
Neither art is any better then the other; nor the artists more talented then the other.
I can draw a photorealistic portraite that not many artists are capable of doing, this doesn't make me any better then someone that does manga.
Also to note, being artistic and being accomplished artistically are entirely dif. things. You may think you're artistic and be able to produce something a little more intricate then a stick figure, but that hardly makes you accomplished let alone an authority on what is talent and what isn't. It's also rather self righteous and snobbish to make an assumption like the one you made. The magority of the people in the world have some level of artistic talent, most just don't realize it.
You promote creativety and imagination through art by encouraging others with the desire to be artists to do a variety of things, not by telling one set of people they aren't as good because you prefer another style over thiers.
The arrogance that comes across in that first sentence just eats at me.
Edit: You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion of what art is. Now the last sentence is really bugging the hell out of me. It's hardly as simple as Western over Eastern. There's a lot inbetween.
its not being narrow-minded. he just wanted to say that "WoW and FF is still the best games AND dont waste your time playing this crap."
a thread will not stop fans and believers in playing this game. you have option to say that, i respect you. but respect those people who enjoy this game.
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For someone that's been putting pencil and paint to paper and canvas for over 20 years now, I would have to disagree with you.
You didn't state a fact so it's possible to change.
Neither art is any better then the other; nor the artists more talented then the other.
I can draw a photorealistic portraite that not many artists are capable of doing, this doesn't make me any better then someone that does manga.
Also to note, being artistic and being accomplished artistically are entirely dif. things. You may think you're artistic and be able to produce something a little more intricate then a stick figure, but that hardly makes you accomplished let alone an authority on what is talent and what isn't. It's also rather self righteous and snobbish to make an assumption like the one you made. The magority of the people in the world have some level of artistic talent, most just don't realize it.
You promote creativety and imagination through art by encouraging others with the desire to be artists to do a variety of things, not by telling one set of people they aren't as good because you prefer another style over thiers.
The arrogance that comes across in that first sentence just eats at me.
Edit: You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion of what art is. Now the last sentence is really bugging the hell out of me. It's hardly as simple as Western over Eastern. There's a lot inbetween.
its not being narrow-minded. he just wanted to say that "WoW and FF is still the best games AND dont waste your time playing this crap."
a thread will not stop fans and believers in playing this game. you have option to say that, i respect you. but respect those people who enjoy this game.
emm
when did i say WoW was the best game? when i made this topic i had just re-activated my WoW account to give it another go. iv already unistalled it from my computer cos i got bored after a week.
i said VG was a good game pve wise.
but artisicly its ugly.
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The trees cast shadows. I haven't seen any trees that appear to be floating.
For someone that's been putting pencil and paint to paper and canvas for over 20 years now, I would have to disagree with you.
You didn't state a fact so it's possible to change.
Neither art is any better then the other; nor the artists more talented then the other.
I can draw a photorealistic portraite that not many artists are capable of doing, this doesn't make me any better then someone that does manga.
Also to note, being artistic and being accomplished artistically are entirely dif. things. You may think you're artistic and be able to produce something a little more intricate then a stick figure, but that hardly makes you accomplished let alone an authority on what is talent and what isn't. It's also rather self righteous and snobbish to make an assumption like the one you made. The magority of the people in the world have some level of artistic talent, most just don't realize it.
You promote creativety and imagination through art by encouraging others with the desire to be artists to do a variety of things, not by telling one set of people they aren't as good because you prefer another style over thiers.
The arrogance that comes across in that first sentence just eats at me.
Edit: You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion of what art is. Now the last sentence is really bugging the hell out of me. It's hardly as simple as Western over Eastern. There's a lot inbetween.
its not being narrow-minded. he just wanted to say that "WoW and FF is still the best games AND dont waste your time playing this crap."
a thread will not stop fans and believers in playing this game. you have option to say that, i respect you. but respect those people who enjoy this game.
I'm really not understanding how that has anything to do with what I wrote.
I tried VG at launch and like many others had great anitcipation for the game. And like many others was very disappointed in what I experienced. One of my pet peeves about it were the character models. In this I totally agree with the OP.
I really think its more a question of the "Art Direction" of the game. Its lacking. Its unimaginative at best and just plain lifeless at worst. Sure it has depth, but I found the lack of critters, and other things that bring a landscape "alive" to be altogether absent for the most part. This is my opinion of course. As far as the models, their lifeless, blank stare along with the rigidity of their bodies were bizarre and kinda spooky. I couldnt get over my Bear Shaman staring blankly forward, even my cartoony WOW priests looks about herself. On the other hand I think the art direction in WOW is superb. The landscape is interesting, things in it catch your eye, its the little things that make the game feel living. I dont mind the models in WOW, at least their eyes move and since the Armour and weapons in WOW look like candy, at least you can dress them up to look pretty if your willing to do some raiding and get some enchants
Anyway thats my take on it. And I see just where the OP is coming from. You couldnt pay me to reinstall that load of bird turds called VG on my computer again, at least he is giving it a chance.
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Can you be specific in which you mean by 'ugly'? Do you mean 'cartoonish' and 'brightly coloured' like WoW or FFXI? Those kind of games tend to be for younger players.
Ive been playing warhammer online and vangaurd lately and I think warhammer has better art than VG at the moment, especially the player models. VG is too plastic like and the animations are bad.
The lag was so hurrendous I think I made it to level 5 before. The thing that made it worse was that what was lagging didn't look too pretty. Gonna try the new isle tonight :P
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Completely agree here. VG's artists are a step above EQ2's, but that isn't saying much really...(not counting the SOGA artists)
Most of the people who think the player models look good just don't really know any better. It's like people who think Ctrl+Alt+Del is a compelling comic with great art, jokes, characters, and writing. Obviously art is subjective (like everything else), but there is a standard and level of quality. Some people just don't get it, and will react to criticism by calling people arrogant snobs
But the fact of the matter is the character models ARE poorly made, and they'll stay that way forever until the get remodeled
Completely agree here. VG's artists are a step above EQ2's, but that isn't saying much really...(not counting the SOGA artists)
Most of the people who think the player models look good just don't really know any better. It's like people who think Ctrl+Alt+Del is a compelling comic with great art, jokes, characters, and writing. Obviously art is subjective (like everything else), but there is a standard and level of quality. Some people just don't get it, and will react to criticism by calling people arrogant snobs
But the fact of the matter is the character models ARE poorly made, and they'll stay that way forever until the get remodeled
You, like the guy you quoted don't know the dif. between art and technical ability aparently.
Poor lighting across models, animations, and skeleton structure are one thing.
The art is in the textures.
An artist doesn't sit down and drow the up the models, the concept and texture artists do. There is a world of dif. here, and unless you or the guy that you quoted can demonstrate an ability to even do what the artists in VG or any other game do I'll continue to reserve the right to point out that saying someone has no talent because you think you that having an "artistic eye" empowers you the right to say such things.
That is arrogant and snobbish.
How about you or the guy you quoted show us how much more talented either of you are. I got a feeling neither of you are.
I'd say the key here is the difference between art and artistic direction; if you look at VG objects individually, they are very well made and very detailed. However as a whole they fail to match and create a convincing effect. Some items are almost photo-realistic, others more cartoony (and a few right out bland), and when they combine the result is uninspired.
So you think this is ugly ???
I guess some people will never be satisfied eh ?
yes combine it with the animation it is.
also the female models are better made than the male.
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I agree that the default humans in Vanguard look a little....special
But, add a few minutes of modification
I could have done a better job on the proportions but you get the idea. If your going to stare at the same face every single time you log on you might as well take a few minutes and play around with the settings.
There are four or five face templates you can choose from before you even start modifiying the facial features. All in all you can make your character look pretty unique.
Just not worth my time anymore.
yes combine it with the animation it is.
also the female models are better made than the male.
QQ
yes combine it with the animation it is.
also the female models are better made than the male.
QQ
eh.
so thats all you have to say.
you must feal like a real man.
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I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
Just not worth my time anymore.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
"Hey guys and gals,
We are aware that there are animations within our game that is not up to par. It will be addressed, but is a separate pass than "PC phase 2". The animation pass is a pretty big task and we did not want to delay the release of the new PC models."
http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=34610
It's the 11th post.
I'm not going to agrue whether or not you modified a character to make the game look bad. You might have modified it to your liking but it is none of the humans look like that by default.
Just not worth my time anymore.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
"Hey guys and gals,
We are aware that there are animations within our game that is not up to par. It will be addressed, but is a separate pass than "PC phase 2". The animation pass is a pretty big task and we did not want to delay the release of the new PC models."
http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=34610
It's the 11th post.
I'm not going to agrue whether or not you modified a character to make the game look bad. You might have modified it to your liking but it is none of the humans look like that by default.
sorry i thought you mean in this topic ^^
when will they fix the animation.
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An exact date for new animations is speculation at this point but I hope it comes soon. I don't mind the animations but I agree there should be more deversity in the auto attack department. Most special attack animations are pretty nice.
Edit: Since you said fixing the animations you may have meant syncronization between attack animations and actually damaging the mob. When you lag the syncronization can be thrown off. I noticed that when I got a new machine (single core 1.67Hz FTW!) I no longer had an animation synch problem.
Just not worth my time anymore.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
Did it occur to you that maybe you simply are pretty crappy at making characters and that it is not so much the game graphics that are ugly but your own ability at designing characters that is failing?
The one player character above is quite pretty i must say.
I would like to ask the same Sgtfrog. Your time is your own of course but I don't get it. You say Vanguard is a good game minus the animations and the character models.
The head shot you posted previouslywas meant to look bad as you know and the animations have been stated to change, but not for a while. So what's the deal? I'm not being sasrcastic. Do you want to be talked into playing or just passing time?
the headshot was actually my toon.not one i made up to make the game look bad.
the animation has not been stated to change. they are still pretty bad. only one that people say has good animation is the monk.
Did it occur to you that maybe you simply are pretty crappy at making characters and that it is not so much the game graphics that are ugly but your own ability at designing characters that is failing?
The one player character above is quite pretty i must say.
no.
other players around me looked ugly aswell.
mainly due to animation. and most males have very weird looking upper-body.
also my head looked fine with no healm. but with healm it looked shit. and there was no option to hide helm
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
It's pretty funny your here... giving VG crap about it's animations. When FFXI has some of the worst animations around. Granted it's older and god forbid Sigil should have made better ones for a newer game.
But the constant crying from people talking bout them is old and annoying now.