lmao mccain wants to postpone fridays debate, if obama did this he would of been forced to dropout and make mccain auto win
I was looking for the right thread to talk about this and it looks like I've found it. I've been away for a couple days b/c I've been playing Warhammer (I must say, it's better than I expected). But I digress.
I haven't read through the entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned already. Obviously, this is a strategy to help McCain's campaign, let's be honest. Whether or not it will work is too soon to tell. I've heard three different analyses, all from Republicans. They range from it being a brialliant move to it backfiring on McCain. We'll find out.
My first impression was that it would backfire on him b/c it might make him look scared, but anyone following the race knows that McCain repeatedly challenges Obama to town hall debates and Obama repeatedly declines them. Clearly Obama has the most to lose in a debate.
It also may be viewed as a stunt and not help either. But apparently there is a lot of fear about the economy out there and voters may see it as a genuine attempt to try to help solve this crisis on behalf of the people. Again, we'll know a lot more by Saturday when all this has played out and the first polls have been conducted.
But your post about Obama dropping out if he had done this...um, no.
lmao mccain wants to postpone fridays debate, if obama did this he would of been forced to dropout and make mccain auto win
I was looking for the right thread to talk about this and it looks like I've found it. I've been away for a couple days b/c I've been playing Warhammer (I must say, it's better than I expected). But I digress.
I haven't read through the entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned already. Obviously, this is a strategy to help McCain's campaign, let's be honest. Whether or not it will work is too soon to tell. I've heard three different analyses, all from Republicans. They range from it being a brialliant move to it backfiring on McCain. We'll find out.
My first impression was that it would backfire on him b/c it might make him look scared, but anyone following the race knows that McCain repeatedly challenges Obama to town hall debates and Obama repeatedly declines them. Clearly Obama has the most to lose in a debate.
It also may be viewed as a stunt and not help either. But apparently there is a lot of fear about the economy out there and voters may see it as a genuine attempt to try to help solve this crisis on behalf of the people. Again, we'll know a lot more by Saturday when all this has played out and the first polls have been conducted.
But your post about Obama dropping out if he had done this...um, no.
The "looking scared" part doesn't make any sense, for reasons Bill Clinton said:
"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.
"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."
I've been following this very closely, and it seems that the Bush Administration was delinguent in realizing that the conservative wing of the house Republicans were in no way shape or form going to support this plan as it stands.
All one needed to do was listen to a few of them, and read what Newt Gingrich had said, to know how this was going to go down.
Senator McCain realized this and has been hinting at it for the past few days. Yesterday, Harry Reid and Speaker Pelosi couldn't have been more wrong -- they claimed they were close to a deal -- but they were nowhere near that.
The meeting went down today at the White House, and it blew up in everyone's face. The republicans said they were not happy with this and they were not on board with it.
Harry Reid blew a gasket as the meeting fell apart. he can't get the deocrats to go along in unity, because if the republicans oppose it, and it doesn't go well, the democrats take all the blame. They need for it to be bipartisan or nothing.
Now it falls to McCain to forge a deal with the house republicans. THIS is what he is good at -- this is what Obama claims to want to do -- but he has never done it in his life.
So far, this is brilliantly played by McCain. At the meeting, he just listened. Now he will work around the clock and forge a compromise, while Obama does nothing but try and spin the press to himself.
To the guys saying McCain is just doing his job. Well guess what, he hasnt been "doing his job" since april! Now he suddenly decides to do his job and must cancel a debate to do it. Well guess what, he could do both! Obama actually wanted to do both but McCain apparrently cant multitask.
To the guys saying McCain is just doing his job. Well guess what, he hasnt been "doing his job" since april! Now he suddenly decides to do his job and must cancel a debate to do it. Well guess what, he could do both! Obama actually wanted to do both but McCain apparrently cant multitask.
Obama doesn't matter in the Senate. he has spent the whole time he has been there running for the White House. He isn't a leader, doesn't reach across party lines, his voice carries no weight -- in short, dropping his vote, doing the campaign and the debate ISN'T multitasking. He has had one focus all his life, and that is his ascent to power. To that end, he has done nothing but that.
We are in the middle of a financial crisis, something where the Democrats will need a republican who has a record of convincing people to make a deal to help it get done. That's McCain. Obama is cluless in that area; and he's not looking the least bit presidential -- he's looking like an extra.
This event clearly shows that Obama doesn't know the first thing about leading -- and that's why, in the end, it'll be good for McCain.I don't even like McCain, but this is all obvious to someone who has just paid some attention to politics for the past ten years or so; and I've ben watching this game for longer than that.
Watch it all roll out. Remember who you heard it from.
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I was looking for the right thread to talk about this and it looks like I've found it. I've been away for a couple days b/c I've been playing Warhammer (I must say, it's better than I expected). But I digress.
I haven't read through the entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned already. Obviously, this is a strategy to help McCain's campaign, let's be honest. Whether or not it will work is too soon to tell. I've heard three different analyses, all from Republicans. They range from it being a brialliant move to it backfiring on McCain. We'll find out.
My first impression was that it would backfire on him b/c it might make him look scared, but anyone following the race knows that McCain repeatedly challenges Obama to town hall debates and Obama repeatedly declines them. Clearly Obama has the most to lose in a debate.
It also may be viewed as a stunt and not help either. But apparently there is a lot of fear about the economy out there and voters may see it as a genuine attempt to try to help solve this crisis on behalf of the people. Again, we'll know a lot more by Saturday when all this has played out and the first polls have been conducted.
But your post about Obama dropping out if he had done this...um, no.
I was looking for the right thread to talk about this and it looks like I've found it. I've been away for a couple days b/c I've been playing Warhammer (I must say, it's better than I expected). But I digress.
I haven't read through the entire thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned already. Obviously, this is a strategy to help McCain's campaign, let's be honest. Whether or not it will work is too soon to tell. I've heard three different analyses, all from Republicans. They range from it being a brialliant move to it backfiring on McCain. We'll find out.
My first impression was that it would backfire on him b/c it might make him look scared, but anyone following the race knows that McCain repeatedly challenges Obama to town hall debates and Obama repeatedly declines them. Clearly Obama has the most to lose in a debate.
It also may be viewed as a stunt and not help either. But apparently there is a lot of fear about the economy out there and voters may see it as a genuine attempt to try to help solve this crisis on behalf of the people. Again, we'll know a lot more by Saturday when all this has played out and the first polls have been conducted.
But your post about Obama dropping out if he had done this...um, no.
The "looking scared" part doesn't make any sense, for reasons Bill Clinton said:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html
"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.
"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."
fishermage.blogspot.com
I've been following this very closely, and it seems that the Bush Administration was delinguent in realizing that the conservative wing of the house Republicans were in no way shape or form going to support this plan as it stands.
All one needed to do was listen to a few of them, and read what Newt Gingrich had said, to know how this was going to go down.
Senator McCain realized this and has been hinting at it for the past few days. Yesterday, Harry Reid and Speaker Pelosi couldn't have been more wrong -- they claimed they were close to a deal -- but they were nowhere near that.
The meeting went down today at the White House, and it blew up in everyone's face. The republicans said they were not happy with this and they were not on board with it.
Harry Reid blew a gasket as the meeting fell apart. he can't get the deocrats to go along in unity, because if the republicans oppose it, and it doesn't go well, the democrats take all the blame. They need for it to be bipartisan or nothing.
Now it falls to McCain to forge a deal with the house republicans. THIS is what he is good at -- this is what Obama claims to want to do -- but he has never done it in his life.
So far, this is brilliantly played by McCain. At the meeting, he just listened. Now he will work around the clock and forge a compromise, while Obama does nothing but try and spin the press to himself.
Very dramatic political theater overall.
fishermage.blogspot.com
To the guys saying McCain is just doing his job. Well guess what, he hasnt been "doing his job" since april! Now he suddenly decides to do his job and must cancel a debate to do it. Well guess what, he could do both! Obama actually wanted to do both but McCain apparrently cant multitask.
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Obama doesn't matter in the Senate. he has spent the whole time he has been there running for the White House. He isn't a leader, doesn't reach across party lines, his voice carries no weight -- in short, dropping his vote, doing the campaign and the debate ISN'T multitasking. He has had one focus all his life, and that is his ascent to power. To that end, he has done nothing but that.
We are in the middle of a financial crisis, something where the Democrats will need a republican who has a record of convincing people to make a deal to help it get done. That's McCain. Obama is cluless in that area; and he's not looking the least bit presidential -- he's looking like an extra.
This event clearly shows that Obama doesn't know the first thing about leading -- and that's why, in the end, it'll be good for McCain.I don't even like McCain, but this is all obvious to someone who has just paid some attention to politics for the past ten years or so; and I've ben watching this game for longer than that.
Watch it all roll out. Remember who you heard it from.
fishermage.blogspot.com