WAR is a good mmo... but the combat system does suck imho
HAHA... said the guy who plays EVE.. the spreadsheet MMO. Yeah, because you know good combat in a MMO when it hits you upside the glasses.
i think what OP means is that combat in AOC is much more active because you decide WHEN and WHERE you hit .
Combat is much more realistic , fluent and fun in AOC and its great performing a combo and seeing alot of different fatalities.
WAR combat system is like WOW. ...get a target.....use ability 1 .2 .3 .4. and again etc
AOC you could block getting yer shield or swords up ...you can dodge to sides etc
its what i call active combat like you have in DDO ...and soon in DARKFALL (wooot)
THough WAR has a great lore and a good rvr PQ system .
ofcourse each to their own ....some people prefer an easy and simple combat system like in WAR.
exactly...this for that don'tlike wow and war system combat... i like DDO and AoC system
It funny how you say whole game sucks on basis of combat when there are other million things to enjoy about the RVR system.
On the other hand once you get over the excitement that combat gives you in AOC what else are you left with? AOC is a shallow game. more like a piece of turd, sprayed with perfume and packed in nice pink box with a pink ribbon on the top. All fluff and no real content.
yesterday i took part in Tier 2 RVR, close to 200 players were fighting eachother. Order side holed Destruction in there warcamp and they couldn't even step out. They were beaten on there own turf. It lasted for several hours. The most amazing PVP i ever had.
I have played AOC and never had such a fantastic gameplay. But whiners will always complain. Crying about graphics and button mashing when AOC combat system is also the same button smashing with added few perks, is all they can come up with.
But all your arguments are weak considering War's gameplay is 100 times better than AOC. if you got something else bring it on. i will shut you up nicely with some more REAL facts.
I am waiting.
LOL and where are your arguments??
Oh wait is this it? calling AOC a piece of Turd?
I'm waiting for you to grow up before I respond to that silly post which is filled with no "REAL" facts.
Nah i meant bring on some more absurd comparisons and i will answer you with facts. Hence still waiting. Truth is you got nothing to prove except crying for graphics and combat system. You want me to give facts? how about you bring some solid reasons to diss WAR and glorify your beloved aoc, we will talk facts then.
before you accuse anyone for being childish. look at your posts. All you do is whine and throw fit like some spoiled brat. I still have to see one good reasoning from you. the fact that you brought up AOC to ridicule WAR shows you have no idea how different these two games really are.
So once again either be quiet or bring some real arguments on table. Because i have active sub for both AOC and WAR so i can call bullshit on all your points.
Still waiting though.
Are you kidding me?
Look at your friggen post! Where in my post did i ever say I LOVED AOC? Where? or are you to much of a fanboy to see that? How am I childish when your post is full of imature remarks.
Check out my signature link, as proof that I have purchased both and play both, heck I can even post sreens of me playing WAR.
It's funny, what makes a game? apparently i'm complaing about graphics and a combat system which to you is what? not important for a game where 99% of what you do is combat?
Please let me know how these two games are "SO" different, I would love to know!
Your to much of a fanboy to have a resonable conservation with.
nah you are the one who is kidding yourself. First of all my reply was to the guy called sixfeetunder. i was replying to his one line troll post. But since you can not read the quotes i think you should read it again properly.
Or maybe you couldn't take it that i said something bad about AOC? you are not an AOC fanboy? still you got all jumpy when i wasn't even talkign to you. Why make absurd comparison between WAR and AOC? and yes they are two very different games.
Why not judge the game on its own merits? without any stupid comparisons? but if you were that smart , you wouldn't have made this topic in first place.
And yes i am sorry but graphics and combat ONLY doesn't make a game. Its how you use them to your game style. AOC combat might be superior because of different body parts you can hit or the combos but to say WAR has worst combat system is really stupid. Go participate in some TIER 2 or TIER3 keep battles. then come back and bitch and moan about how much it sucks. Combat in WAR is more group oriented/ Not like AOC where you run around in instances soloing most of the time. Problem is you judge the whole game based on combat when you don't even know its real purpose. So i suggest you continue enjoying AOC and its combat system, since cool combat moves is what makes a great MMO.
WAR is a good mmo... but the combat system does suck imho
HAHA... said the guy who plays EVE.. the spreadsheet MMO. Yeah, because you know good combat in a MMO when it hits you upside the glasses.
i think what OP means is that combat in AOC is much more active because you decide WHEN and WHERE you hit .
Combat is much more realistic , fluent and fun in AOC and its great performing a combo and seeing alot of different fatalities.
WAR combat system is like WOW. ...get a target.....use ability 1 .2 .3 .4. and again etc
AOC you could block getting yer shield or swords up ...you can dodge to sides etc
its what i call active combat like you have in DDO ...and soon in DARKFALL (wooot)
THough WAR has a great lore and a good rvr PQ system .
ofcourse each to their own ....some people prefer an easy and simple combat system like in WAR.
i agree with most of this and mainly AOC combat system as it requires positional hits to get the best dmg meaning if you hit a person with a shield up theyll take dmg but not as much dmg if u are able to stun/CC them and move around to their back and hit them behind them there is no protection so therefore you land a high combo the dmg will be stronger than normal due to the lack of natural mitigation.
i agree with alot of people AOC was mismanaged but the combat is definitely fun and engaging. and yes it does require actual tactics based on position and use of combos in a specific manner cause a specific class will respond to a different tactic than a different class. I think that is the biggest difference in all three 3, WoW, and Warhammer go for the traditional set of spells and fighting mechanics, AOC went for what i consider is a more innovative "experimental" fiughting system which gives it a very unique feel and look to it. I love the combat system in AOC and its very hard to go back to others when your used to actively initiating combos.
i didnt like warhamemer due to several reasons, but found out it wasnt my thing, but figure people are going to play what they enjoy. Ill do the same. with warhammer best thing to do, is to do the trial if ur on the fence.
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nah you are the one who is kidding yourself. First of all my reply was to the guy called sixfeetunder. i was replying to his one line troll post. But since you can not read the quotes i think you should read it again properly. Or maybe you couldn't take it that i said something bad about AOC? you are not an AOC fanboy? still you got all jumpy when i wasn't even talkign to you. Why make absurd comparison between WAR and AOC? and yes they are two very different games. Why not judge the game on its own merits? without any stupid comparisons? but if you were that smart , you wouldn't have made this topic in first place.
And yes i am sorry but graphics and combat ONLY doesn't make a game. Its how you use them to your game style. AOC combat might be superior because of different body parts you can hit or the combos but to say WAR has worst combat system is really stupid. Go participate in some TIER 2 or TIER3 keep battles. then come back and bitch and moan about how much it sucks. Combat in WAR is more group oriented/ Not like AOC where you run around in instances soloing most of the time. Problem is you judge the whole game based on combat when you don't even know its real purpose. So i suggest you continue enjoying AOC and its combat system, since cool combat moves is what makes a great MMO.
LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
I tried WAR and I will probably go playing WAR again at some later point (And I guess WOW will loose my sub then). The reason for me leaving was not related to combat system. I think the combat system holds the same standard in WOW in fact. So unless you (OP) expected WAR to magically be different somehow, you should not be that disappointed.
Another thing, why is it that all discussion threads about WAR somehow end up to also discuss AoC. Come on, the games could possibly not been more different.
nah you are the one who is kidding yourself. First of all my reply was to the guy called sixfeetunder. i was replying to his one line troll post. But since you can not read the quotes i think you should read it again properly. Or maybe you couldn't take it that i said something bad about AOC? you are not an AOC fanboy? still you got all jumpy when i wasn't even talkign to you. Why make absurd comparison between WAR and AOC? and yes they are two very different games. Why not judge the game on its own merits? without any stupid comparisons? but if you were that smart , you wouldn't have made this topic in first place.
And yes i am sorry but graphics and combat ONLY doesn't make a game. Its how you use them to your game style. AOC combat might be superior because of different body parts you can hit or the combos but to say WAR has worst combat system is really stupid. Go participate in some TIER 2 or TIER3 keep battles. then come back and bitch and moan about how much it sucks. Combat in WAR is more group oriented/ Not like AOC where you run around in instances soloing most of the time. Problem is you judge the whole game based on combat when you don't even know its real purpose. So i suggest you continue enjoying AOC and its combat system, since cool combat moves is what makes a great MMO.
LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
This reply is the proof that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your only purpose here is to troll so you will continue inspite of all the logical reasons one gives you.
But i would like to ask why would i care for AOC style combat in WAR while fighting against 100 of players? would i care for all the combos and cool moves when i don't know what and who hit me from which direction? WAR is not 1v1 PVP, its GROUP based where your skills and combat compliment other players in your team.
When 10 or more player charge at me one time who the hell gives a flying ***** about the cool combos? but seriously like i said you will argue for the sake of arguing. you have made up your mind about WAR so i suggest move on. Let us people with inferior taste enjoy WAR.
Once again have you participated in any RVR keep battles? if not you have no idea why the combat in WAR is the way it is.
Yes nothing to see here, maybe they should have a filter that only fanboys post's can be seen.
The point is, people should know how the combat is.
They should know how combat is.
Its better than WoW and AoC.
Im glad we agree.
If your going to say that, fine.
Why is it better? At least back what you say up.
I'm sorry Clada, but if you dont like Warhammer Online and if you post about it on these forums, you will be labeled a troll, no matter what.
The truth is, no one wants to hear how bland and underwhelming this game is because its the only AAA game that came out in a relatively good state in the last 5 years, and people are sick of WoW.
Too bad its WoW but simply with a PvP focus in mind. I find it laughable that in a scenario I "die" and less than 30 seconds later im back in combat with not even a scratch, lawl.
And no, I can tell you right now the combat isnt better than WoW or AOC's...its just done with a little bit more of a twist, action points instead of mana, and a seperate "build up/release" mechanism. Same shit.
And was a hell of alot slower than WAR's combat. Half the difficulty was waiting on simon. Simon would say red, so I hit red and I know without a doubt he'll say green next. But no no no I cant hit green I gotta wait till simon says green.
Another good thing about WAR is I dont have to feel like a criminal everytime I pvp. Is funcom still thinking of a way to punish pvpers? There was the Jail idea then the if you kill someone who doesnt fight back then everyone can loot ur corpse.
A pvp game that incourages pvp and allow all its player base to participate in it; wow what a concept.
So i have been playing alot of AOC, decided to pick this game up. Created a dwarf rune priest and all i gota say is this combat system is WEAK. My rune priest slowly swings his arms around as he cast spells and then I just repeat the system again by clicking the same button. This combat system feels so outdated!! Even the combat music sucks.
nah you are the one who is kidding yourself. First of all my reply was to the guy called sixfeetunder. i was replying to his one line troll post. But since you can not read the quotes i think you should read it again properly. Or maybe you couldn't take it that i said something bad about AOC? you are not an AOC fanboy? still you got all jumpy when i wasn't even talkign to you. Why make absurd comparison between WAR and AOC? and yes they are two very different games. Why not judge the game on its own merits? without any stupid comparisons? but if you were that smart , you wouldn't have made this topic in first place.
And yes i am sorry but graphics and combat ONLY doesn't make a game. Its how you use them to your game style. AOC combat might be superior because of different body parts you can hit or the combos but to say WAR has worst combat system is really stupid. Go participate in some TIER 2 or TIER3 keep battles. then come back and bitch and moan about how much it sucks. Combat in WAR is more group oriented/ Not like AOC where you run around in instances soloing most of the time. Problem is you judge the whole game based on combat when you don't even know its real purpose. So i suggest you continue enjoying AOC and its combat system, since cool combat moves is what makes a great MMO.
LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
This reply is the proof that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your only purpose here is to troll so you will continue inspite of all the logical reasons one gives you.
But i would like to ask why would i care for AOC style combat in WAR while fighting against 100 of players? would i care for all the combos and cool moves when i don't know what and who hit me from which direction? WAR is not 1v1 PVP, its GROUP based where your skills and combat compliment other players in your team.
When 10 or more player charge at me one time who the hell gives a flying ***** about the cool combos? but seriously like i said you will argue for the sake of arguing. you have made up your mind about WAR so i suggest move on. Let us people with inferior taste enjoy WAR.
Once again have you participated in any RVR keep battles? if not you have no idea why the combat in WAR is the way it is.
Yup troll, thats exactly it man. Thank God your around to give me all this insight!
Have you read MMORPG'S ROC?
"Trolling
Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated. "
I made one bad comment about the game, and you think its trolling. Like the ROC says, vocing your opinion is encouraged. You my friend are being a troll with every single response you have made in this thread.
I guess i'm a troll who plays Warhammer Online, posts screenshots and is active in the forum. Yup i'm a troll because I don't like the combat system and I think its weak.
nah you are the one who is kidding yourself. First of all my reply was to the guy called sixfeetunder. i was replying to his one line troll post. But since you can not read the quotes i think you should read it again properly. Or maybe you couldn't take it that i said something bad about AOC? you are not an AOC fanboy? still you got all jumpy when i wasn't even talkign to you. Why make absurd comparison between WAR and AOC? and yes they are two very different games. Why not judge the game on its own merits? without any stupid comparisons? but if you were that smart , you wouldn't have made this topic in first place.
And yes i am sorry but graphics and combat ONLY doesn't make a game. Its how you use them to your game style. AOC combat might be superior because of different body parts you can hit or the combos but to say WAR has worst combat system is really stupid. Go participate in some TIER 2 or TIER3 keep battles. then come back and bitch and moan about how much it sucks. Combat in WAR is more group oriented/ Not like AOC where you run around in instances soloing most of the time. Problem is you judge the whole game based on combat when you don't even know its real purpose. So i suggest you continue enjoying AOC and its combat system, since cool combat moves is what makes a great MMO.
LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
This reply is the proof that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your only purpose here is to troll so you will continue inspite of all the logical reasons one gives you.
But i would like to ask why would i care for AOC style combat in WAR while fighting against 100 of players? would i care for all the combos and cool moves when i don't know what and who hit me from which direction? WAR is not 1v1 PVP, its GROUP based where your skills and combat compliment other players in your team.
When 10 or more player charge at me one time who the hell gives a flying ***** about the cool combos? but seriously like i said you will argue for the sake of arguing. you have made up your mind about WAR so i suggest move on. Let us people with inferior taste enjoy WAR.
Once again have you participated in any RVR keep battles? if not you have no idea why the combat in WAR is the way it is.
Yup troll, thats exactly it man. Thank God your around to give me all this insight!
Have you read MMORPG'S ROC?
You are a troll because they said combat didn't matter in a combat game. Then they tried to say styles etc don't matter in a combat game... I suppose they must have never played Mythics other game... DAoC.
I mean ya DAoC didn't have styles... style chains or positional attacks... at all.
Someone having an opinion that doesn't match yours does not equate to trolling.
Hell I was called a troll for saying there are low/low and med/low or low/med servers.. I was informed they are all high/high with que's...
Some of the people on this forum are delusional at best.. or don't even play these games and just come here to troll... be nice to see some of them cleaned off the stie to be honest.
Clada your problem is not one negative comment but its being stubborn and not letting it go when its been told to you many times why AOC style combat won't work in WAR. You keep running around the same point in circles. if you wanted to make a reasonable and debatable topic you shouldn't have made any reference to AOC combat. Like i said why not discuss WAR on its own merit without making any comparisons?
So are you trolling? yes you are. No one said combat doesn't matter. Just that AOC style combat doesn't matter in RVR games like WAR. And i told you why. When you die in 2 or 3 hits from mob where is the time to hit cool combos? your survival depends upon your team mates and not on the combos that you can pull. But i am sure you will still come back and repeat the same thing over and over again.
Clada your problem is not one negative comment but its being stubborn and not letting it go when its been told to you many times why AOC style combat won't work in WAR. You keep running around the same point in circles. if you wanted to make a reasonable and debatable topic you shouldn't have made any reference to AOC combat. Like i said why not discuss WAR on its own merit without making any comparisons? So are you trolling? yes you are. No one said combat doesn't matter. Just that AOC style combat doesn't matter in RVR games like WAR. And i told you why. When you die in 2 or 3 hits from mob where is the time to hit cool combos? your survival depends upon your team mates and not on the combos that you can pull. But i am sure you will still come back and repeat the same thing over and over again. if that's not trolling then what it is?
I agree with Getalife that the OP has not really added anything useful to this thread beyond his first opening post. He made an initial valid observation about the type of combat he likes in a game. Then he kept insisting to the people who don't care that was some kind of proof about superiority or inferiorty of a game product. He also confuses subjective evaluation with objective truth. Until he learns that point, his follow up comments have been essentually useless to the overall discussion. Does that make him a troll? I don't know for certain, he is treading a thin line very carefully so far. I do know that past his first post his comments have not been constructive, and thus a waste of his time.
My advice to the people addressing the OP. It's your time, waste it as you see fit, but you are never going to convince him that there might be a valid reason for someone else to prefer the combat mechanics in WAR. His narrow minded view of the world will not allow him to accept that other people may legitimately like something he doesn't like. In my opinion the OP is doing this for his own amusement, not because he thinks he will help anyone with his behavior. You can take it for what it's worth.
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I really liked the directional hits in AoC but I honestly find Warhammer much more fun.
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HAHA... said the guy who plays EVE.. the spreadsheet MMO. Yeah, because you know good combat in a MMO when it hits you upside the glasses.
i think what OP means is that combat in AOC is much more active because you decide WHEN and WHERE you hit .
Combat is much more realistic , fluent and fun in AOC and its great performing a combo and seeing alot of different fatalities.
WAR combat system is like WOW. ...get a target.....use ability 1 .2 .3 .4. and again etc
AOC you could block getting yer shield or swords up ...you can dodge to sides etc
its what i call active combat like you have in DDO ...and soon in DARKFALL (wooot)
THough WAR has a great lore and a good rvr PQ system .
ofcourse each to their own ....some people prefer an easy and simple combat system like in WAR.
exactly...this for that don'tlike wow and war system combat... i like DDO and AoC system
It funny how you say whole game sucks on basis of combat when there are other million things to enjoy about the RVR system.
On the other hand once you get over the excitement that combat gives you in AOC what else are you left with? AOC is a shallow game. more like a piece of turd, sprayed with perfume and packed in nice pink box with a pink ribbon on the top. All fluff and no real content.
yesterday i took part in Tier 2 RVR, close to 200 players were fighting eachother. Order side holed Destruction in there warcamp and they couldn't even step out. They were beaten on there own turf. It lasted for several hours. The most amazing PVP i ever had.
I have played AOC and never had such a fantastic gameplay. But whiners will always complain. Crying about graphics and button mashing when AOC combat system is also the same button smashing with added few perks, is all they can come up with.
But all your arguments are weak considering War's gameplay is 100 times better than AOC. if you got something else bring it on. i will shut you up nicely with some more REAL facts.
I am waiting.
LOL and where are your arguments??
Oh wait is this it? calling AOC a piece of Turd?
I'm waiting for you to grow up before I respond to that silly post which is filled with no "REAL" facts.
Nah i meant bring on some more absurd comparisons and i will answer you with facts. Hence still waiting. Truth is you got nothing to prove except crying for graphics and combat system. You want me to give facts? how about you bring some solid reasons to diss WAR and glorify your beloved aoc, we will talk facts then.
before you accuse anyone for being childish. look at your posts. All you do is whine and throw fit like some spoiled brat. I still have to see one good reasoning from you. the fact that you brought up AOC to ridicule WAR shows you have no idea how different these two games really are.
So once again either be quiet or bring some real arguments on table. Because i have active sub for both AOC and WAR so i can call bullshit on all your points.
Still waiting though.
Are you kidding me?
Look at your friggen post! Where in my post did i ever say I LOVED AOC? Where? or are you to much of a fanboy to see that? How am I childish when your post is full of imature remarks.
Check out my signature link, as proof that I have purchased both and play both, heck I can even post sreens of me playing WAR.
It's funny, what makes a game? apparently i'm complaing about graphics and a combat system which to you is what? not important for a game where 99% of what you do is combat?
Please let me know how these two games are "SO" different, I would love to know!
Your to much of a fanboy to have a resonable conservation with.
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nah you are the one who is kidding yourself. First of all my reply was to the guy called sixfeetunder. i was replying to his one line troll post. But since you can not read the quotes i think you should read it again properly.
Or maybe you couldn't take it that i said something bad about AOC? you are not an AOC fanboy? still you got all jumpy when i wasn't even talkign to you. Why make absurd comparison between WAR and AOC? and yes they are two very different games.
Why not judge the game on its own merits? without any stupid comparisons? but if you were that smart , you wouldn't have made this topic in first place.
And yes i am sorry but graphics and combat ONLY doesn't make a game. Its how you use them to your game style. AOC combat might be superior because of different body parts you can hit or the combos but to say WAR has worst combat system is really stupid. Go participate in some TIER 2 or TIER3 keep battles. then come back and bitch and moan about how much it sucks. Combat in WAR is more group oriented/ Not like AOC where you run around in instances soloing most of the time. Problem is you judge the whole game based on combat when you don't even know its real purpose. So i suggest you continue enjoying AOC and its combat system, since cool combat moves is what makes a great MMO.
HAHA... said the guy who plays EVE.. the spreadsheet MMO. Yeah, because you know good combat in a MMO when it hits you upside the glasses.
i think what OP means is that combat in AOC is much more active because you decide WHEN and WHERE you hit .
Combat is much more realistic , fluent and fun in AOC and its great performing a combo and seeing alot of different fatalities.
WAR combat system is like WOW. ...get a target.....use ability 1 .2 .3 .4. and again etc
AOC you could block getting yer shield or swords up ...you can dodge to sides etc
its what i call active combat like you have in DDO ...and soon in DARKFALL (wooot)
THough WAR has a great lore and a good rvr PQ system .
ofcourse each to their own ....some people prefer an easy and simple combat system like in WAR.
i agree with most of this and mainly AOC combat system as it requires positional hits to get the best dmg meaning if you hit a person with a shield up theyll take dmg but not as much dmg if u are able to stun/CC them and move around to their back and hit them behind them there is no protection so therefore you land a high combo the dmg will be stronger than normal due to the lack of natural mitigation.
i agree with alot of people AOC was mismanaged but the combat is definitely fun and engaging. and yes it does require actual tactics based on position and use of combos in a specific manner cause a specific class will respond to a different tactic than a different class. I think that is the biggest difference in all three 3, WoW, and Warhammer go for the traditional set of spells and fighting mechanics, AOC went for what i consider is a more innovative "experimental" fiughting system which gives it a very unique feel and look to it. I love the combat system in AOC and its very hard to go back to others when your used to actively initiating combos.
i didnt like warhamemer due to several reasons, but found out it wasnt my thing, but figure people are going to play what they enjoy. Ill do the same. with warhammer best thing to do, is to do the trial if ur on the fence.
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LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
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I tried WAR and I will probably go playing WAR again at some later point (And I guess WOW will loose my sub then). The reason for me leaving was not related to combat system. I think the combat system holds the same standard in WOW in fact. So unless you (OP) expected WAR to magically be different somehow, you should not be that disappointed.
Another thing, why is it that all discussion threads about WAR somehow end up to also discuss AoC. Come on, the games could possibly not been more different.
LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
This reply is the proof that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your only purpose here is to troll so you will continue inspite of all the logical reasons one gives you.
But i would like to ask why would i care for AOC style combat in WAR while fighting against 100 of players? would i care for all the combos and cool moves when i don't know what and who hit me from which direction? WAR is not 1v1 PVP, its GROUP based where your skills and combat compliment other players in your team.
When 10 or more player charge at me one time who the hell gives a flying ***** about the cool combos? but seriously like i said you will argue for the sake of arguing. you have made up your mind about WAR so i suggest move on. Let us people with inferior taste enjoy WAR.
Once again have you participated in any RVR keep battles? if not you have no idea why the combat in WAR is the way it is.
Yes nothing to see here, maybe they should have a filter that only fanboys post's can be seen.
The point is, people should know how the combat is.
They should know how combat is.
Its better than WoW and AoC.
Im glad we agree.
If your going to say that, fine.
Why is it better? At least back what you say up.
I'm sorry Clada, but if you dont like Warhammer Online and if you post about it on these forums, you will be labeled a troll, no matter what.
The truth is, no one wants to hear how bland and underwhelming this game is because its the only AAA game that came out in a relatively good state in the last 5 years, and people are sick of WoW.
Too bad its WoW but simply with a PvP focus in mind. I find it laughable that in a scenario I "die" and less than 30 seconds later im back in combat with not even a scratch, lawl.
And no, I can tell you right now the combat isnt better than WoW or AOC's...its just done with a little bit more of a twist, action points instead of mana, and a seperate "build up/release" mechanism. Same shit.
my feelings exactly.
KERPLAH!
AoC's combat sucked.
And was a hell of alot slower than WAR's combat. Half the difficulty was waiting on simon. Simon would say red, so I hit red and I know without a doubt he'll say green next. But no no no I cant hit green I gotta wait till simon says green.
Another good thing about WAR is I dont have to feel like a criminal everytime I pvp. Is funcom still thinking of a way to punish pvpers? There was the Jail idea then the if you kill someone who doesnt fight back then everyone can loot ur corpse.
A pvp game that incourages pvp and allow all its player base to participate in it; wow what a concept.
combat music?
LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
This reply is the proof that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your only purpose here is to troll so you will continue inspite of all the logical reasons one gives you.
But i would like to ask why would i care for AOC style combat in WAR while fighting against 100 of players? would i care for all the combos and cool moves when i don't know what and who hit me from which direction? WAR is not 1v1 PVP, its GROUP based where your skills and combat compliment other players in your team.
When 10 or more player charge at me one time who the hell gives a flying ***** about the cool combos? but seriously like i said you will argue for the sake of arguing. you have made up your mind about WAR so i suggest move on. Let us people with inferior taste enjoy WAR.
Once again have you participated in any RVR keep battles? if not you have no idea why the combat in WAR is the way it is.
Yup troll, thats exactly it man. Thank God your around to give me all this insight!
Have you read MMORPG'S ROC?
"Trolling
Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated. "
I made one bad comment about the game, and you think its trolling. Like the ROC says, vocing your opinion is encouraged. You my friend are being a troll with every single response you have made in this thread.
I guess i'm a troll who plays Warhammer Online, posts screenshots and is active in the forum. Yup i'm a troll because I don't like the combat system and I think its weak.
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LOL yeah man exactly! combat means nothing in an MMO where all you do is uhhh combat!
FIghting does not matter in fighting games either right?
This reply is the proof that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your only purpose here is to troll so you will continue inspite of all the logical reasons one gives you.
But i would like to ask why would i care for AOC style combat in WAR while fighting against 100 of players? would i care for all the combos and cool moves when i don't know what and who hit me from which direction? WAR is not 1v1 PVP, its GROUP based where your skills and combat compliment other players in your team.
When 10 or more player charge at me one time who the hell gives a flying ***** about the cool combos? but seriously like i said you will argue for the sake of arguing. you have made up your mind about WAR so i suggest move on. Let us people with inferior taste enjoy WAR.
Once again have you participated in any RVR keep battles? if not you have no idea why the combat in WAR is the way it is.
Yup troll, thats exactly it man. Thank God your around to give me all this insight!
Have you read MMORPG'S ROC?
You are a troll because they said combat didn't matter in a combat game. Then they tried to say styles etc don't matter in a combat game... I suppose they must have never played Mythics other game... DAoC.
I mean ya DAoC didn't have styles... style chains or positional attacks... at all.
Someone having an opinion that doesn't match yours does not equate to trolling.
Hell I was called a troll for saying there are low/low and med/low or low/med servers.. I was informed they are all high/high with que's...
Some of the people on this forum are delusional at best.. or don't even play these games and just come here to troll... be nice to see some of them cleaned off the stie to be honest.
Clada your problem is not one negative comment but its being stubborn and not letting it go when its been told to you many times why AOC style combat won't work in WAR. You keep running around the same point in circles. if you wanted to make a reasonable and debatable topic you shouldn't have made any reference to AOC combat. Like i said why not discuss WAR on its own merit without making any comparisons?
So are you trolling? yes you are. No one said combat doesn't matter. Just that AOC style combat doesn't matter in RVR games like WAR. And i told you why. When you die in 2 or 3 hits from mob where is the time to hit cool combos? your survival depends upon your team mates and not on the combos that you can pull. But i am sure you will still come back and repeat the same thing over and over again.
if that's not trolling then what it is?
I agree with Getalife that the OP has not really added anything useful to this thread beyond his first opening post. He made an initial valid observation about the type of combat he likes in a game. Then he kept insisting to the people who don't care that was some kind of proof about superiority or inferiorty of a game product. He also confuses subjective evaluation with objective truth. Until he learns that point, his follow up comments have been essentually useless to the overall discussion. Does that make him a troll? I don't know for certain, he is treading a thin line very carefully so far. I do know that past his first post his comments have not been constructive, and thus a waste of his time.
My advice to the people addressing the OP. It's your time, waste it as you see fit, but you are never going to convince him that there might be a valid reason for someone else to prefer the combat mechanics in WAR. His narrow minded view of the world will not allow him to accept that other people may legitimately like something he doesn't like. In my opinion the OP is doing this for his own amusement, not because he thinks he will help anyone with his behavior. You can take it for what it's worth.
I hope this helps.