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Warhammer developers scrambling to appease its masses....

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  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668

     I haven't had any major issues with the game as of yet either, and I've been playing a week now.

    My system is mediocre, nvidia 7950 GT OC, 2 gigs of DDRII ram, and an intel 2.8 dual core...

    I have good fps (25-45) even in RvR, and run it at a res of 1768 X 962 as I run it on my HDTV.

    Not blindly defending it, I just don't have those issues mentioned.

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610
    Originally posted by susanto1228


    wow, I just spent some time over at the Warhammer alliance listening to all the tidbits of performance and stuff on the game, and man do they have problems, and once again most of the fixes are being made by the consumers themselves, coming up with their own hotfixes and tweaks.  
    One can say that an MMO can recover from a failed start in certain circumstances, but just like Failcom's AOC, the dev's at Warhammer are scrambling to fix all the CTD's and ever so popular HITCHING that occurs in MMO's when first launched.
    All I can say is that jobs are on the line here.  Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig, ofcourse it could also be network problems, from companies throttling bandwidth from inexperienced home owners who don't know how to manage their networks, could be other things, but it seems like Mythic has its hands full at the moment, this month is really critical for them, to Re-Sub or Not to Re-Sub that is the question over at the Warhammer Alliance forums.  Personally I don't want to see any MMO fail, its just not good for the genre, who is already in shambles after so many epic fails....guess we'll just see the outcome of this fiasco.

     

    99% user error is what we are going to talk about here.

     

    You have.. and I'm sorry people... you have a bunch of retards that think 10 year old computers are going to run modern games.  I have had almost zero problems from pre-order headstart.  I've crashed.. I believe.. 3 times, TOTAL.  No glitching, no lag, nothing.  Instead of using a video card from a crackerjack box, try purchasing your equipment or computers withint the last couple years.  People in general are dumb, and people in general will blame someone else for their problems.

     

    99% of the time.  FAILCOM was a rare exception.  And.. yeah, surprise, I didn't have a problem with performance in that game either.

  • trevornortrevornor Member Posts: 154

    Well, to blow the tech theories out of the water, I have the following system and I get ok performance out of it (similar to my performance in WOW, and mind you, shared internet connection with an appartment complex)

    Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ (2.7ghz)

    4GB of PC2-6400 RAM between 2 chips

    NVidia Motherboard Graphics Card GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (I think 128 MB and 1GB Shared?)

    I seem to be on the cusp (lower end of course) but worked fine during the Keep raid the other day 30+ people (We took it for Order)

    What this means in the long term, I don't know, but it is running fine for me, and it handled the extra Beta load fine. And to top the mystery off, it's a slimline desk top. go figure *Shrug*

  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,572
    Originally posted by CobraSolidus

    Originally posted by Ginaz

    Originally posted by susanto1228


    wow, I just spent some time over at the Warhammer alliance listening to all the tidbits of performance and stuff on the game, and man do they have problems, and once again most of the fixes are being made by the consumers themselves, coming up with their own hotfixes and tweaks.  
    One can say that an MMO can recover from a failed start in certain circumstances, but just like Failcom's AOC, the dev's at Warhammer are scrambling to fix all the CTD's and ever so popular HITCHING that occurs in MMO's when first launched.
    All I can say is that jobs are on the line here.  Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig, ofcourse it could also be network problems, from companies throttling bandwidth from inexperienced home owners who don't know how to manage their networks, could be other things, but it seems like Mythic has its hands full at the moment, this month is really critical for them, to Re-Sub or Not to Re-Sub that is the question over at the Warhammer Alliance forums.  Personally I don't want to see any MMO fail, its just not good for the genre, who is already in shambles after so many epic fails....guess we'll just see the outcome of this fiasco.

     

    Tell me something...what mmo are you playing right now?  I will bet almost anything that it had just as many problems, or more, when it first launched.  WAR has had one of the best launches of any mmo to date.  I'm usually willing to give mmo's a few months to sort themselves out before I come down too hard on them.  WAR has been out for 2 weeks now.  2 weeks.  If these problems still exist in a few months then all the criticism will be valid.



     

    I am ex-WAR player now. I am playing Age of Conan and it is quite fun with all the latest changes. AoC kind of had the same launch that WAR. Everybody was really happy in the first 2-3 weeks and then as people started to realize that low FPS and grey map was not going to be patched away very soon, people started to get very loud. AoC did not really clean up till 3 months after launch. I kind of see the same faith for WAR. It is just the way MMO launches seem to go these days.

    AoC had a much worse launch than WAR.  I know because I played at launch.  As far as I know, WAR had all its advertised features on day one. AoC did not.  As far as technical issues, AoC had many more problems than WAR.  I'll take your word that AoC is better now because I just played out the first month and then quit.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955
    Originally posted by acme22




     
    Dude the game has performance issues end of story. Setting forced anti aliasing helps a little but the problem is still there. People put the game away until this problem will be fixed. Whats this thing about people stalking eachothers post anyway?? That is sad.. dont you feel disgusting when you do that?



     

    That's not exactly true.

    I will buy that some are having performance issues because I don't see any reason to blatantly call people liars, but, with the exceptioin of some odd bugs that got into this patch which were fixed very quickly, I've had absolutely no problem. Just none.

    now, there is some wonky stuff going on with the interface editor for me such as I want the chat window to stay in one place and it keeps wanting to be closer to the top than bottom, but saying it has performance issues, end of story, is stretching it.

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  • MajinashMajinash Member Posts: 1,320

    someone want to explain what this window dragging thing is?

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909

    Bah that's really weird since i didnt saw any of those HUGE GAME BREAKING bugs that people who never played the game speak about... okay i had some performance related stuff, but that needed some tweeking in my computer settings, like almost anygame i play, multiplayer or solo player game... Just because some person have problems that doesnt mean they are a vaste majority, and they are not, it's just that when you have a problem you are more vocal about it than when everything works fine...

  • markoraosmarkoraos Member Posts: 1,593
    Originally posted by susanto1228


    wow, I just spent some time over at the Warhammer alliance listening to all the tidbits of performance and stuff on the game, and man do they have problems, and once again most of the fixes are being made by the consumers themselves, coming up with their own hotfixes and tweaks.  
    One can say that an MMO can recover from a failed start in certain circumstances, but just like Failcom's AOC, the dev's at Warhammer are scrambling to fix all the CTD's and ever so popular HITCHING that occurs in MMO's when first launched.
    All I can say is that jobs are on the line here.  Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig, ofcourse it could also be network problems, from companies throttling bandwidth from inexperienced home owners who don't know how to manage their networks, could be other things, but it seems like Mythic has its hands full at the moment, this month is really critical for them, to Re-Sub or Not to Re-Sub that is the question over at the Warhammer Alliance forums.  Personally I don't want to see any MMO fail, its just not good for the genre, who is already in shambles after so many epic fails....guess we'll just see the outcome of this fiasco.

     

    This is one of the best and smoothest MMO launches EVER. I think only LOTRO and DAoC had comparably smooth and bug free starts.. and that is a fact not contested by even the most rabid haters of the game.

    What is your agenda? Who are you working for? Your OP is a textbook example of black propaganda. Reported.

  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516

    At rank 26 have done open field rvr with close to 48 (almost 2 full warbands) on our side and a ton of order.  Things do come to a crawl in the keeps with all the bws and their excessive spell effects but for myself with a not top of the line system its very playable.  e6600 @2.40ghz 4gb ram, xp64, and an nvidia 8800gt 512mb card.  Planning on updating the processor at some point.

    The hitching issue from guild logins/outs has been fixed for a while now and finally, the WHA forums are as bad as the mmorpg.com forums :)  I can finally understand why Mythic doesn't have official forums lol :)

  • IxnatifualIxnatifual Member Posts: 475

     Definetly the best MMO launches I've seen to date. Sure they have a few problems, but they seem quite diligent at fixing these. "Scrambling to appease its masses"? Not so much. I'm guessing someone hasn't been at an MMO launch before, has a very lousy memory or is an "anti-WAR fanboy" with particularly vivid delusions. The game is easily one of the, if not the most, polished MMO with the smoothest launch to date. World of WarCraft in comparison had a horrible, horrible, horrible launch and somehow I don't see them complaining over their 11 million subscribers.

  • twhinttwhint Member UncommonPosts: 559
    Originally posted by acme22

    Originally posted by Ajacks_US

    Originally posted by donjn

    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Originally posted by susanto1228


    wow, I just spent some time over at the Warhammer alliance listening to all the tidbits of performance and stuff on the game, and man do they have problems, and once again most of the fixes are being made by the consumers themselves, coming up with their own hotfixes and tweaks.  
    One can say that an MMO can recover from a failed start in certain circumstances, but just like Failcom's AOC, the dev's at Warhammer are scrambling to fix all the CTD's and ever so popular HITCHING that occurs in MMO's when first launched.
    All I can say is that jobs are on the line here.  Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig, ofcourse it could also be network problems, from companies throttling bandwidth from inexperienced home owners who don't know how to manage their networks, could be other things, but it seems like Mythic has its hands full at the moment, this month is really critical for them, to Re-Sub or Not to Re-Sub that is the question over at the Warhammer Alliance forums.  Personally I don't want to see any MMO fail, its just not good for the genre, who is already in shambles after so many epic fails....guess we'll just see the outcome of this fiasco.



     

    Actually, most problems usually occur because people "tweak" their systems. That's asking for it.

    I have no hitching, fps is high, and that on a Vista rig. I also think you're blowing things up, with the whole "jobs on the line" :).

    And I bet you are lvl 10 and have never done a 40 man Warband Keep asault where the FPS is a slideshow. Either that or you are lying.

     

    Or maybe you are lying?

    In any case, I find it ironic that you made a topic called "Forcing AA and AF Works! Make WAR use MORE of your GPU" then complain about slideshow FPS.

    Warhammer has had a far smoother launch than WoW had. WoW was full of bugs, end game wasn't finished, and most talent trees were useless or just plain broken.



     

    Dude the game has performance issues end of story. Setting forced anti aliasing helps a little but the problem is still there. People put the game away until this problem will be fixed. Whats this thing about people stalking eachothers post anyway?? That is sad.. dont you feel disgusting when you do that?

     

     

    See, this is the misconception. Your computer is having performance issues, not the game. To be honest, most people aren't having the same problems some are apparently having. The problem may never get fixed because it resides on /your/ computer, and not in the actual game. But we shall see. I remember Vanguard had a memory leak that only affected certain configurations, and that's the danger of PC's. You can never properly prepare for all the problems you'll run into with all the myriad configurations that exist out there.

  • afoaaafoaa Member UncommonPosts: 578

    I have a 2.15 mhz dual core rig with 2 gig ram and a GF 8800 GTS 320 card, and I use XP. I participated in a keep battle with over 90 people in it for hours last night with the game set at highest setting and it ran just perfect.

    (But I am beginning to hear that people with Vista 64 are having crash and lag spike problems in such enviroment.)

    The number of bugs in this game are so few that is amazes me. Only game with similar performance I have ever tried is Lotro. WoW was far more buggy.

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  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546
    Originally posted by donjn

    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Originally posted by susanto1228


    wow, I just spent some time over at the Warhammer alliance listening to all the tidbits of performance and stuff on the game, and man do they have problems, and once again most of the fixes are being made by the consumers themselves, coming up with their own hotfixes and tweaks.  
    One can say that an MMO can recover from a failed start in certain circumstances, but just like Failcom's AOC, the dev's at Warhammer are scrambling to fix all the CTD's and ever so popular HITCHING that occurs in MMO's when first launched.
    All I can say is that jobs are on the line here.  Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig, ofcourse it could also be network problems, from companies throttling bandwidth from inexperienced home owners who don't know how to manage their networks, could be other things, but it seems like Mythic has its hands full at the moment, this month is really critical for them, to Re-Sub or Not to Re-Sub that is the question over at the Warhammer Alliance forums.  Personally I don't want to see any MMO fail, its just not good for the genre, who is already in shambles after so many epic fails....guess we'll just see the outcome of this fiasco.



     

    Actually, most problems usually occur because people "tweak" their systems. That's asking for it.

    I have no hitching, fps is high, and that on a Vista rig. I also think you're blowing things up, with the whole "jobs on the line" :).

    And I bet you are lvl 10 and have never done a 40 man Warband Keep asault where the FPS is a slideshow. Either that or you are lying.



     

    There's more people in the Tier 2 bracket than there are people in the Tier 4 bracket.

    Oh, and Ive done my fair share of big RVR in closed beta. That still ran smooth, even without the latest performance fixes. Don't call me a liar.

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  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    Just speaking from my own experience having played quite a few mmo's, this is probably the smoothest launch I have experienced.  Also the game runs acceptably on my computer.  I say acceptably because it can always improve.  So far biggest battle I have been in was probably 40 vs. 40, and it was pretty laggy.

     

    My rig:

    p4 3.6

    ati 4850

    3gb ram

    10k rpm raptor drive.

     

    Not the most up to date rig, but for pve, pq and scenario the game runs well enough that I am having fun and not dying to do lag or anything.  On a 1 to 10 scale,  I would say it runs at 7, which is good but has room for improvement.  No new computer for me until Star Trek Online or Kotor Online comes out.

  • ReanimReanim Member Posts: 103

    For some classes the game runs fine. For other classes there are a horrible amount of bugs. guess it all depends on where you are standing.

    whats sad is the rabid fanboi response if you complain about one of those classes that has a bunch of bugs.

    play an WL or SH to 20 and tell me how smooth the launch was.

     

     

     

  • markoraosmarkoraos Member Posts: 1,593
    Originally posted by Reanim


    For some classes the game runs fine. For other classes there are a horrible amount of bugs. guess it all depends on where you are standing.
    whats sad is the rabid fanboi response if you complain about one of those classes that has a bunch of bugs.
    play an WL or SH to 20 and tell me how smooth the launch was.
     
     
     

     

    The game has its bugs and flaws, but off-handedly calling its release a "fiasco" as something self-obvious is a transparently intentional lie. In fact it is presented in such a skillful, underhand way that I really doubt the honesty of the OP. It looks like a pro intel job to me.

    fiasco

    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)

    fi·as·co /fi?æsko? or, esp. for 2, -??sko?/

    1. a complete and ignominious failure.

    Which it obviously isn't by any standard.

     

  • ghaianaghaiana Member UncommonPosts: 106

    Sure this game still has some glitches, but nothing game-breaking. Even with big warbands I had not much lag. In my opinion you should just buy a better computer or find a better ISP.

  • noblotnoblot Member Posts: 287

    Been playing since launch, one crash on one PC (assuming you don't count where I pressed "decline" on the behave your self agreement a few times).

    Pets and Mob pathing need work, but that is always something difficult to get right its seems. Other than that I have found one "bugged" quest which was disable but I managed to get it to trigger halfway through somehow -then couldn't finish it.

    It term of success, I would say that it truely outstanding, and I give a standing ovation to the coders and support people.

  • bbmcnairbbmcnair Member Posts: 45
    Originally posted by susanto1228


    Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig



     

    LOL WUT?

    I'm on a macbook pro running bootcamp.... nothing special... and fraps tells me im' getting a 60 average FPS...............................

  • cracker6cracker6 Member Posts: 32

    you guys are totally mislead by what he is saying. the fact of the matter is, about 1/3 of people playing warammer are getting the stuttering and fps issues. you make think its a smooth launch because there arnt many bugs, but in reality the game is unplayable for so many people. there are people with 200$ pcs running the game fine, and some others cannot. there are people with gaming pc's, quad processors, 4gb ram, that are having issues, and other are not. this problem has nothing to do with their pc's, it is the client(mythic). i have 2gb ram, 1gb geforce 8500gt video card, 2.2 dc processor. can run all shooting games and mmo's on high graphics; except for warhammer. when killing mobs ff is about 10-15, rvr and scenarios goes to about 5. for 2/3 of warhammer it has been a smooth launch, but for the other 1/3 that cant even play it; i dont consider that "smooth". its been a couple of weeks and every patch has made it worse. from day 1 to now its probably gotten about 30% worse for me(ff). if this problem isnt fixed soon, alot of people will be quitting after the free month.

  • RanekRanek Member Posts: 14

    Meh this is what you get when you release an unfinished game which is a clone of another shitty game.

    "Zomghads its better than wow"

    comparing this game to another crappy game just to make it look good is really sad.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,196
    Originally posted by Ranek


    Meh this is what you get when you release an unfinished game which is a clone of another shitty game.
    "Zomghads its better than wow"
    comparing this game to another crappy game just to make it look good is really sad.

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  • AirwrenAirwren Member UncommonPosts: 648
    Originally posted by susanto1228


    wow, I just spent some time over at the Warhammer alliance listening to all the tidbits of performance and stuff on the game, and man do they have problems, and once again most of the fixes are being made by the consumers themselves, coming up with their own hotfixes and tweaks.  
    One can say that an MMO can recover from a failed start in certain circumstances, but just like Failcom's AOC, the dev's at Warhammer are scrambling to fix all the CTD's and ever so popular HITCHING that occurs in MMO's when first launched.
    All I can say is that jobs are on the line here.  Already you can see youtube videos of current consumers who are getting as little as 4 to 8 FPS with a high rig, ofcourse it could also be network problems, from companies throttling bandwidth from inexperienced home owners who don't know how to manage their networks, could be other things, but it seems like Mythic has its hands full at the moment, this month is really critical for them, to Re-Sub or Not to Re-Sub that is the question over at the Warhammer Alliance forums.  Personally I don't want to see any MMO fail, its just not good for the genre, who is already in shambles after so many epic fails....guess we'll just see the outcome of this fiasco.

    Here are a couple of things to consider:

     

    1. 60 pages on a forum doesn't mean squat as people like to submit multiple posts to beat a dead horse.  The amount of pages in no way indicates a "mass" number of people having problems.

    2.  Most people don't want to admit that it may just be their machine or connection that's having the problem.  Why?  Because then they are either helpless to fix the problem or they have to blame themselves for the problem.  We live in a blaming society these days and why take accountability when I can blame my problem on someone else. 

    3.  It's not like Mythic is doing "nothing" about the problem.  MMO players by their very nature are an impatient lot.  They want what they want when they want it.  No answer will appease the bitchers and whiners.  If people are going to quit a game in the first few weeks of launch over these issues then I feel sorry for them because it's just stupid. 

    4.  The end is not near and this month is not "make or break" for Mythic.  Let's be honest, they have a very solid game right now and it's mere weeks from launch.  They have already added several good features to the game (auto-loot, scenario queueing) so why make the jump that they are not going to do anything? 

    In conclusion, the people on that website need to chill the ***k out.  I know it may be frustrating for them but patience needs to be the order of the day.  This game can in no way be compared to AoC. 

  • BladinBladin Member UncommonPosts: 1,089
    Originally posted by cracker6


    you guys are totally mislead by what he is saying. the fact of the matter is, about 1/3 of people playing warammer are getting the stuttering and fps issues. you make think its a smooth launch because there arnt many bugs, but in reality the game is unplayable for so many people. there are people with 200$ pcs running the game fine, and some others cannot. there are people with gaming pc's, quad processors, 4gb ram, that are having issues, and other are not. this problem has nothing to do with their pc's, it is the client(mythic). i have 2gb ram, 1gb geforce 8500gt video card, 2.2 dc processor. can run all shooting games and mmo's on high graphics; except for warhammer. when killing mobs ff is about 10-15, rvr and scenarios goes to about 5. for 2/3 of warhammer it has been a smooth launch, but for the other 1/3 that cant even play it; i dont consider that "smooth". its been a couple of weeks and every patch has made it worse. from day 1 to now its probably gotten about 30% worse for me(ff). if this problem isnt fixed soon, alot of people will be quitting after the free month.

     

    1/3rd? you mean more like 2%

     

    I'm sorry.  But the same 50 people making 100 topics on a forum=/= 170,000 with performances issues.

    try again.

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  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    I should be thankful that I've NEVER had any issues with the client.  Everything has been smooth and I've not even seen any lag other then the occasional mob "pop" from their posistion they were agro'd to appear next to you.

    This game is one of the smoothest I've played this early after launch. 

    Good stuff!

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