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I want to be a Healer , so let me Heal !!!!
summitus
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Ok I dont know if anyone else is finding this, I've finally settled on being anh Archmage Healer..... but FFS ! where are the group heals and buffs ?????? No wonder Order are continually getting ass wiped ...
So Mythic FFS give us some group healing and Buffs and let those that want make a career out Healing do it properly !!
I'm fed up of choosing " WHO" to save in my group instead of nice Group Buffs and heals , this needs to be fixed and soon.
but its really pissing me off getting shouted at by people that want to be healed and I cant heal all of them to give everyone a fighting chance.
Also whats the benifit of Healing too do we actually get any XP for the amount of Lame healing that we can do at the moment ??
sorry Rant Over 
but I just want to be a good healer and I cant 
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Funny, I have a 24 Shaman and a 26 Rune priest...you do get group heals at 20, but even so, A good healer keeps all party lists open and just pop's the hot's on people who start taking damage. It's not that hard to be honest. If you where good, you'd get by fine without a Group Heal.
To give you an honnest answer you should have a Rune Priest which is a pure healer and your offencive folks should go for the Destruction healers fisrt. If you do not do this you will get pretty much owened most of the time. Key is getting the other guys healers, make sure everyone knows who they are, not everyone does and will never say they do not.
MAGA
War is a cheesy free for all game that none care about anyone else but themselves, why people think its so great eludes me, EQ1 had more content, story , quests and faction than war has and that was YEARS ago.
Healers suck , as you said no group healas or buffs, bar one sucky heal and a choice of ONE buff, I should know played one to 33 and seen the spells till 40.. suck suck suck, game has NO depth or reason to level, is truely a kids game of kill me, kil you, then do it again
Rune priest lvl 33
One things for sure Lotro sure did get it right with their "Minstrel Class" a total joy to play and loads of fun too , but as I said in my post WAR just does'nt have it and it needs to be addressed, some one said about keeping an ey on group and dishing out heals as necassary ..... well I tell you what in most case when everyone is is getting their Asses handed to em by Imbalanced Destruction Ganking, then its nearly impossible to heal without group heals I don care what anyone says ... as I said about Lotro most groups only need one Minstrel to be succesful in WAR to get anywhere you need about three healers in every group .... and even then the overpowered Destruction Gankers just head straight for the Healers .
ooh I'm on one today
I really don't understand what the big deal is.. I'm a Warrior Priest in game and I've never had a problem healing... and I'm not even a completely dedicated healer.
At 10 for a WP you get a monster heal, at 20 you get your first AOE heal, Use mastery points to get other skills.. at 22 I have a mastery AOE barrier skill that takes around 400 damage for all my teammates.
I have numberous buffs and defensive target skills including defensive target heals and armor and strength buffs and debuffs.
In scenarios I can easily become the top healer or a top killler depending on how I want to play.
Now dedicated healers like Arch Mages and Rune Priests should have no problems dedicating their time to healing. Don't say the healer classes are broken if your just not very good at playing one, they have more then enough abilities to do the job of healer. Especially if my half-healer class can keep a team alive the actual healer classes (I know archmage first hand) can definitely out heal me and keep more people alive as well.
Who said I was'nt good at playing a healer ? IMO its broken simple as that more group Buffs and heals are needed especially with the Imbalance between Destruction and Order , you know we are not all fans of frantic button bashing just to do something that should be there in the fisrt place .... but your obviously perfect so I'll leave it there ...
Warrior priests are the Order Realms answer to group healing abilities. If they spend their mastery points well, they can get something like 5 area/group heals.
The downside is most of their heals are heal-over-time spells or require the warrior priest execute a melee attack to trigger the direct heal (which can miss or be mitgated, etc)
Archmages make fantastic healers IMHO.
I have a lvl 15 Archmage, and I am usually the top healer in scenarios on the order side. I use up all my action points spamming heals and heals over time and my one ward and hardly have any damage at all, and I still can't save everyone on my side. Sometimes your health will go down way too fast for any healer to keep up, especially if you've got more than one damage dealer on you. Don't expect to get a heal if you're always running off by yourself too, if you're far away I can't get to you in time.
Healing will keep ya busy, that's for sure.
Mythic didn't stop your ability to heal.
Play a Rune Priest.
Who said I was'nt good at playing a healer ? IMO its broken simple as that more group Buffs and heals are needed especially with the Imbalance between Destruction and Order , you know we are not all fans of frantic button bashing just to do something that should be there in the fisrt place .... but your obviously perfect so I'll leave it there ...
Note that the classes are more less well balance, so if you have problems healing then your opponent will have exact same problems. Use what you have to get what you want, and dont blame your tools if you are not a bad worker..........
What level are you anyway?
There are a few post here saying that healing should not be an issue, have you gone any of the Mastery trees yet?
I believe the OP is trying to make a point, of the lack of options as a Healer. If you want to see what a good combat healer can be like. Try EQ2's Fury class. Group buffs, AOE Heal, AOE Hot, Quick HoT's, Slow HoTs. Plus some nice damage oriented stuff, and the ability to actually melee if need be.
Warhammers healers are just lacking in that respect. Not much in the way of buffs, not much in the way of healing. So you're basically get bored using the same 2 or 3 things over and over. Yes, they heal well, but they are just too linear in their execution.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
I've settled on playing an Archmage and yep they should be fantastic healers, but at the moment I dont think they are as good and fun to play as they should be .... a little more thought into the mechanics of well thought out group buffs and and damage related AOE heals would have been nice.
I think WAR is a great game , tho I do think it is a jump in have some fun and and then go do someting else kinda game ... therefore I personally think it needs to be far more accesible to all levels of players, not just the people that need to take University degree to play it.
just my opinion tho
The system is not broken and it works as intended. Just because the class you choose doesn't play as every other MMO in existance doesn't mean its wrong. In fact it makes you think alot more about your choices, and you plan better. On many occasions as a Disciple (not a true healer) I have to choose who I feel I can save and who will meet their maker.
It makes you think first.... I like that.
Thank goodness someone that see's what I'm trying to get at here ..
I agree with you! my shadow warrior can't heal for shit! come on mythic fix shadow warriors so they can tank. i mean come on whats the point in playing a shadow warrior if they can't play songs?
The system is not broken and it works as intended. Just because the class you choose doesn't play as every other MMO in existance doesn't mean its wrong. In fact it makes you think alot more about your choices, and you plan better. On many occasions as a Disciple (not a true healer) I have to choose who I feel I can save and who will meet their maker.
It makes you think first.... I like that.
You are missing the point. The OP is correct. I have played a healer in every other MMORPG and played one very successfully. I have given up on my AM as the healing mechanics in this game stink. I enjoy the challenge of keeping multiple targets up while doing a little damage but WAR just doesn't handle AM's well.
The system is not broken and it works as intended. Just because the class you choose doesn't play as every other MMO in existance doesn't mean its wrong. In fact it makes you think alot more about your choices, and you plan better. On many occasions as a Disciple (not a true healer) I have to choose who I feel I can save and who will meet their maker.
It makes you think first.... I like that.
Good point , but please just see what I'm saying here , I dont want to be able save everyone in my Party .. I would however like to have the mechanics in place so I can enjoy playing my clkass and in doing so be a valuable member of any group I may be in , and give the Tanks and Ranged Dps more of oppurtunity to enjoy thier game as well.
I hate to say it but at the moment its feeling like some bizzare version of Counterstrike !
The Archmage is not a PURE healer he shouldn't have all the super baubles etc. He's in line with his Warhammer lore as an offensive healer. He's a Caster / Healer not to mention you've yet to specify what level you are. It sounds like nothing but a bunch of QQing from someone who thinks at lvl 10 you should have all the skill in the game. If your not over lvl 15 there's no reason to whine for more options your not supposed to have all the options. To be honest Archmages piss me off they're rather hard to kill and a good one makes it rather hard to kill the target your on. Sounds like your one of those QQ gimme everything right now players.....sorry this game isn't for you move on or try a different healer. Or better yet reach lvl 20, train in mastery and shut the hell up.
Warhammer has lots of options spread out over 3 races, each healer plays differently. The rune priest is the pure healer, the archmage is the 'caster healer' and the warrior priest is the battle healer...(damn WPs!!).
Have nps with my level 31 RP,I think what people are getting fixed on is there are no 7k+heals ala WoW or big group heals like lotr minstrel,I have 1 group heal in basic spells,1 rank 2 moral aoe dmg that heals for some of the dmg and 1 upcomming moral rank 4 big group heal.
The problem is WAR is a group game and a good group will do well,I have seen both sides of the coin some very bad Scenario groups were everyone splits up and tries do be the hero and it all ends up in tears or indeed "when will you guys start healing" to a guild run with my RP another RP 1WP and 1AM and at times it is a joy to behold,every class complements each other healing wise and at times you feel indestructable....until you come across the same organised desto side,then the fun really begins.
Stop get held up by the fact you cant save everyone in your group with 1 touch of the keyboard and start multi tasking and group playing as the game was intended,hell I love running into the middle of the battle when the desto start to zerg in Tor Anroc and using my knockback to send them into the lava and using my aoe dmg+heal moral on the way out again.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
I really don't know what to tell you. I've seen a bunch of really damn good AM playing in scenarios with me. I guard and oathfriend them often and they definitely keep me and a frontline dps supported.
You do make a difference, and sometimes people don't state it enough but funny thing is usually most people don't thank tanks for their roles or dps for help downing what a tank cannot alone. Same issues are seen with engineers. People say the AoE DPS is a joke and by itself it is. The debuffs on the otherhand are definitely seen by those in the frontlines and greatly appreciated.
You know what every time I play there are people shouting where the heals etc ! whats the healer doin ! why are they not healing us ! .... and it easy to see why when you start plaing as healer .. " There's no Point " at the moment , you might as well just stand behind everyone else and use your damage spells and heal yourself ... people just cant see it , this is why healers are not healing it does'nt happen in other games because people have the right things in place to enjoy their healer class and get much more out of the game . Anyone thats played a minstrel in Lotro will understand what I'm saying here. This does not happen in other Mmo's Healers Heal in WAR they are not bothering ..... so something is wrong with it simple as that.
Sorry but I totally dis-agree here,sure you get the odd asshat that whines about healing but so far they have been very much in the minority,more often than not I get emote /thanks or ppl saying that they were chuffed with the healing.
I am beginning to think you arent in a guild yet or indeed reached something like lvl 20,like I said in a previuos post it is all about multi-tasking and team work to do well,try get yourself into a guild and learn how to rvr heal and get out the mindset that you alone should save everyone with your healing.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
This post is an excellent representation of Warhammer's community. What this person fails to realize is that he totally missed the OP entire point. Not to mention he spouts the same glaring error that alot of warhmmer fans do. Play the game to x level before it gets good? That's about as silly as buying a car, and waiting x amount of days, before you can drive it.
If the game isn't midly entertaining from the start. IMHO it's already failed. You play a game to have fun, not work up until you can have fun. Oh, and I really liked that bit I highlighted red. I really wouldn't brag about something like that, when other MMO's. Manage to do what Mythic did over 3 races, with just one class. (See: EQ2, EQ1, WoW, etc etc)
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
I personally like the healing in WAR. Sure its very different and you dont get the sense of being a god healer like in wow but I just means having more than one healer is important. I see it as a hidden way to push team work. I have a 18 shaman and I really enjoy healing. Mobile, quick, and managing your energy adds a nice twist instead of monitering mana pools and preying for a Mana Tide totem. WAr uses this style of healing to keep people appreciate a good healer when they get it. Good gaming all!
Well your playing a different WAR than I'm playing .....