I waited a long time for W.A.R to come out. I thought that the open beta show promise, but was a little perplexed with missing four classes (two of which I was really looking forward to) and the utter lack of trade skills- not to mention how they worked. Granted, I bitched about WoW's trade skills- until I played LOTRO- and the way the skills work in W.A.R. I have become a fan of the WoW trade skills again. *sigh*
I was also looking forward to no having to grind. I figured that between PVE, PQs, and RvR, I would have to do little to no grinding. That would be true, if I could ever get into an RvR scenario. I have seen the tier 2 scenario three times since I became level 21, and my tier three guildees have never seen the tier three scenario- even after 30 hours of waiting in queues. After completing upto chap 10 in Chaos, I have also done chap 8-10 in Greenskins, and 8-10 in Dark Elves, and I am STILL level 21. After quitting LOTRO because I spent most of that game farming Yetis for the bonus, I find myself in WAR, once again, farming fucking Yetis because the kill collector gives experience for them
The result of all this is that my already low population server, KIslev, is getting lower. The Guild Master of my guild cleaned out 60 players who had not logged on in over two weeks, which is pretty sad for a game that has been around for only three weeks. I believe we will be clearing out more as there are about 50 people who have not logged on in the past week. People are fleeing this game left and right, which cuts down on the available RvR, which destroys the point, and fun, of the game. When I called customer service to see if I could transfer my toons to a higher population server, I was told that "Was not possible" and that they were "looking for ways to remedy the situation".
I have a remedy: fire Mark Jacobs.
That's right. Fire the incompetent general manager and vice president of Mythic Entertainment who allowed the release an unfinished game, late, with serious flaws and irritating features (20 second send mail delay?) I'm sure that the shareholders have noticed the 30% DROP in stock value since the release of W.A.R. and the fact that the servers are laggy, even with low population, is unacceptable. The higher population servers have a too low of a cap- so the only people who can play are those who don't have school or a job.
Contact EA. Tell them what is going on, and demand accountability. Hold the man who was responsible for this utter debacle accountable and fire Mark Jacobs.
Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is WoW.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
I waited a long time for W.A.R to come out. I thought that the open beta show promise, but was a little perplexed with missing four classes (two of which I was really looking forward to) and the utter lack of trade skills- not to mention how they worked. Granted, I bitched about WoW's trade skills- until I played LOTRO- and the way the skills work in W.A.R. I have become a fan of the WoW trade skills again. *sigh*
I was also looking forward to no having to grind. I figured that between PVE, PQs, and RvR, I would have to do little to no grinding. That would be true, if I could ever get into an RvR scenario. I have seen the tier 2 scenario three times since I became level 21, and my tier three guildees have never seen the tier three scenario- even after 30 hours of waiting in queues. After completing upto chap 10 in Chaos, I have also done chap 8-10 in Greenskins, and 8-10 in Dark Elves, and I am STILL level 21. After quitting LOTRO because I spent most of that game farming Yetis for the bonus, I find myself in WAR, once again, farming fucking Yetis because the kill collector gives experience for them
The result of all this is that my already low population server, KIslev, is getting lower. The Guild Master of my guild cleaned out 60 players who had not logged on in over two weeks, which is pretty sad for a game that has been around for only three weeks. I believe we will be clearing out more as there are about 50 people who have not logged on in the past week. People are fleeing this game left and right, which cuts down on the available RvR, which destroys the point, and fun, of the game. When I called customer service to see if I could transfer my toons to a higher population server, I was told that "Was not possible" and that they were "looking for ways to remedy the situation".
I have a remedy: fire Mark Jacobs.
That's right. Fire the incompetent general manager and vice president of Mythic Entertainment who allowed the release an unfinished game, late, with serious flaws and irritating features (20 second send mail delay?) I'm sure that the shareholders have noticed the 30% DROP in stock value since the release of W.A.R. and the fact that the servers are laggy, even with low population, is unacceptable. The higher population servers have a too low of a cap- so the only people who can play are those who don't have school or a job.
Contact EA. Tell them what is going on, and demand accountability. Hold the man who was responsible for this utter debacle accountable and fire Mark Jacobs.
According to your poll you have failed. It appears that not many voters want Mark Jacobs fired. Also, your guild leader removed 60 people because they had not logged on in 2 weeks? That was just plain stupid.
I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times.
He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers.
He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is WoW.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
Hahaha no, he was agreeing with you. QFT means quoted for truth...as in he agrees with what you said. Stop construction on that bridge right away!
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I love the game. It's keeping me busy and I've only barely scratched the surface of the content it offers.
The big mistake they did make was the server rollout strategy. Ghost servers are a problem and they have done nothing to address it.
On a dead server, seeing tons of guildmates disappear into the ether doesn't surprise me at all. Not that they are leaving the game, but that most have probably gone to more populated servers.
I moved to populated servers (one for order, one for destruction) after languishing in an underpopulated environment and the difference is night and day.
[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]
wanna see something funny? I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire.
I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself
[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]
wanna see something funny? I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire. I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
_________________________________ JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
I think it all depends who you ask if this game failed or not. The diehard fans will say no and the rest will clearly have mixed opinions. It will be interesting to see how many actually will subscribe to the game and how long they will last. Though I suspect it will do no better than DAOC did.
Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is WoW.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is WoW.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
The OP may think the game as failed, but I'm enjoying it nicely. The population concerns is over dramatized. Sure it has its problems as a MMO, but its stable/plays well.
If you don't like a game, just stop playing. Why come here and complain about it?
Past: EQ, EQ2, DAoC, SWG, WoW, LotR, VG, WAR, GW, GW2, Rift Present: The Elder Scrolls Online Future: Everquest Next
[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]
wanna see something funny? I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire. I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
I think OrionMan post on the AoC forums under the name "Worgpest", he makes the most idiotic statements you can imagine about the success of AoC and the failure of War. He took over as lead Fanboi for AoC since Protus has fallen off the boards. OrionMans world has been falling in around him since his "Precious" AoC has been a total disaster, so he's started trashing War in some lame attempt to compensate.
Well, he lied to thousands of people. That should be reason enough.
Ummm... what did they lie to us about? If anything they have been as upfront and honest about everything I have seen and heard.
God, no.
He promised WAR would release when it was great, and it obviously it is not a great game, and he knew it, he lied to all of you. Not to talk about the mess he made when announcing the cuts in content, which I won't go into because I forgot the details, but he contradicted himself in a couple of times and in others what he said was so confusing it could be understood both ways. DO NOT trust this guy.
I personally think the game is great. It does have things that irritate me or things i wish were different but overall its a good game. I think mark has done a great job so far and I have confidence that things will improve even more in a few months. The only real obstacle its facing now is the release of WOTLK but I don't see that as a huge threat just because of the type of game WoW is at its core.
p.s. for the person that doesn't know what "QQ" means....QQ means cry.
But the stocks are plummeting because all stocks are, 30% is a bit more than the market but it is no disaster.
It is way to early to be sure about anything, if WAR drop down to the numbers AoC have in a few months then Jakobs will have to go and while that is a possibility it might turn as well... Anything can happen and it is very common with new games that a big % of those who tries it quits fast.
Just relax a bit and we start to worry for the game in a few months or when the sub numbers hit 250K, no point in worrying for things that might not happen.... Hopefully the numbers turn or at least stabilise soon.
Yay, another overzealous thread about accountability.
his post is more than valid.. get over ur fanboy hat and see the truth
His post is an opinion and all opinions are valid, but that doesn't mean anything. Anyone can say a game sucks and why they think that, but providing actual concrete proof to back up those accusations is an entirely different story. Fanboy or Hater, doesn't matter, neither sides opinion matters unless they know what they're talking about.
well you shown clearly that you are fanboy.. what kinda proof you want..
go play on low/medium realms.. its pain, dead, and frustrating.
500/500 1000/1000 ( noone ever prove server holds more ? ) caps are too low even for high/full realm
exp bonus isnt solution. more ppl are leaving game than joining..
in a company i work.. we managed to transfer our old database to our new software.. now if you saying that merging 2 servers ( same software ) in multi billion programing specialist company is too hard..
or that they are just too lazy.. i have no words..
i could never figure out why mmo companies do merge as last resort.. etc aoc.. i did quit before realms got dead.. but i heard merge was too late.. ( well new boss.. merge was fast for him.. )
wow.. game which never ? ( might be wrong ) merged low pop servers.. even after thousands of posts in forums..
now warhammer..
you might not earn those 2k a month back for server you aint using.. as you already probably have contract running..
but you atleast will make your suscribers happy. one that pay your wage..
if you think 20% exp for a week is a lot.. your mistaken. and if that exp doesnt effect bonuses as quest rewards.. sc wins.. its useless..
just my view.. i already left game.. population beying one of reason.. i saw no future for game which runs of this kinda code/servers capabilities.. i like when whole server knows me.. but i prefer that server is bigger than i can count on my fingers..
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LOL @ OP.
Sorry but Marc Jacobs is what Brad McQuaid should have been.
WAR is a roaring success. Nothing to see here.
Give MJ a raise.
This is just a joke right? This thread...........
/sigh, cry cry cry
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
Enjoy : )
According to your poll you have failed. It appears that not many voters want Mark Jacobs fired. Also, your guild leader removed 60 people because they had not logged on in 2 weeks? That was just plain stupid.
I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times.
He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers.
He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
Hahaha no, he was agreeing with you. QFT means quoted for truth...as in he agrees with what you said. Stop construction on that bridge right away!
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I love the game. It's keeping me busy and I've only barely scratched the surface of the content it offers.
The big mistake they did make was the server rollout strategy. Ghost servers are a problem and they have done nothing to address it.
On a dead server, seeing tons of guildmates disappear into the ether doesn't surprise me at all. Not that they are leaving the game, but that most have probably gone to more populated servers.
I moved to populated servers (one for order, one for destruction) after languishing in an underpopulated environment and the difference is night and day.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]
wanna see something funny? I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire.
I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself
dont be so stupid. its 98.7%
You guys are both optomists.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
_________________________________
JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
I think it all depends who you ask if this game failed or not. The diehard fans will say no and the rest will clearly have mixed opinions. It will be interesting to see how many actually will subscribe to the game and how long they will last. Though I suspect it will do no better than DAOC did.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
Lol, QFT = quoted for truth.
Chill out mate, i agree with you.
You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.
Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.
QFT
Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?
From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?
Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.
Lol, QFT = quoted for truth.
Chill out mate, i agree with you.
My bad lol.
Enjoy : )
Obvious troll is obvious.
The OP may think the game as failed, but I'm enjoying it nicely. The population concerns is over dramatized. Sure it has its problems as a MMO, but its stable/plays well.
If you don't like a game, just stop playing. Why come here and complain about it?
Past: EQ, EQ2, DAoC, SWG, WoW, LotR, VG, WAR, GW, GW2, Rift
Present: The Elder Scrolls Online
Future: Everquest Next
Mark Jacobs fired? lol...
Name me someone in his position that launched a game of this size and did a better job...
Also if Mark Jacobs should be fired what general managers/lead designers do you feel are doing a great job?
Just curious...
I play a lot of games...
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
I think OrionMan post on the AoC forums under the name "Worgpest", he makes the most idiotic statements you can imagine about the success of AoC and the failure of War. He took over as lead Fanboi for AoC since Protus has fallen off the boards. OrionMans world has been falling in around him since his "Precious" AoC has been a total disaster, so he's started trashing War in some lame attempt to compensate.
You guys must of not seen AoC realease
Fear is the mind-killer
Ummm... what did they lie to us about? If anything they have been as upfront and honest about everything I have seen and heard.
God, no.
He promised WAR would release when it was great, and it obviously it is not a great game, and he knew it, he lied to all of you. Not to talk about the mess he made when announcing the cuts in content, which I won't go into because I forgot the details, but he contradicted himself in a couple of times and in others what he said was so confusing it could be understood both ways. DO NOT trust this guy.
I personally think the game is great. It does have things that irritate me or things i wish were different but overall its a good game. I think mark has done a great job so far and I have confidence that things will improve even more in a few months. The only real obstacle its facing now is the release of WOTLK but I don't see that as a huge threat just because of the type of game WoW is at its core.
p.s. for the person that doesn't know what "QQ" means....QQ means cry.
his post is more than valid.. get over ur fanboy hat and see the truth
Mark Jacobs got mythic to where they are today, there is no way they are going to fire him, just because you dont like the game LOL.
Fire Jacobs and let "Motormouth" keep his job?
But the stocks are plummeting because all stocks are, 30% is a bit more than the market but it is no disaster.
It is way to early to be sure about anything, if WAR drop down to the numbers AoC have in a few months then Jakobs will have to go and while that is a possibility it might turn as well... Anything can happen and it is very common with new games that a big % of those who tries it quits fast.
Just relax a bit and we start to worry for the game in a few months or when the sub numbers hit 250K, no point in worrying for things that might not happen.... Hopefully the numbers turn or at least stabilise soon.
his post is more than valid.. get over ur fanboy hat and see the truth
His post is an opinion and all opinions are valid, but that doesn't mean anything. Anyone can say a game sucks and why they think that, but providing actual concrete proof to back up those accusations is an entirely different story. Fanboy or Hater, doesn't matter, neither sides opinion matters unless they know what they're talking about.
well you shown clearly that you are fanboy.. what kinda proof you want..
go play on low/medium realms.. its pain, dead, and frustrating.
500/500 1000/1000 ( noone ever prove server holds more ? ) caps are too low even for high/full realm
exp bonus isnt solution. more ppl are leaving game than joining..
in a company i work.. we managed to transfer our old database to our new software.. now if you saying that merging 2 servers ( same software ) in multi billion programing specialist company is too hard..
or that they are just too lazy.. i have no words..
i could never figure out why mmo companies do merge as last resort.. etc aoc.. i did quit before realms got dead.. but i heard merge was too late.. ( well new boss.. merge was fast for him.. )
wow.. game which never ? ( might be wrong ) merged low pop servers.. even after thousands of posts in forums..
now warhammer..
you might not earn those 2k a month back for server you aint using.. as you already probably have contract running..
but you atleast will make your suscribers happy. one that pay your wage..
if you think 20% exp for a week is a lot.. your mistaken. and if that exp doesnt effect bonuses as quest rewards.. sc wins.. its useless..
just my view.. i already left game.. population beying one of reason.. i saw no future for game which runs of this kinda code/servers capabilities.. i like when whole server knows me.. but i prefer that server is bigger than i can count on my fingers..