Again, the DX10 thing is more about how dishonest they were about why it wasn't in... giving a reason that made it sound like a "good thing" - "saving the best for last", so to speak - when the truth was nothing like that. It's not an issue of *what* they lied about. It's that they *lied* at all.
Yep. People and companies don't change. They lied us once, they will do it again.
FC as a company was based on a lie. Gaute himself said in an interview how he and other founders LIED to investors to get funding for AO. He thought it was funny.
Thank God people saw through the lies and sent a message to everyone in the industry: "This is not year 2000. We gamers won't tolerate lying anymore!".
I did and thats what I saw more ambiance. Its great looking don't get me wrong, but I don't think people should be as upset with the issue as they tend to be.
Well, some people get upset when developers repeatedly lie to them and try to steal their money.
But I do agree with you, DX10 is not as special as some people try to make it. Graphics in AoC very pretty good from day one. AoC doesn't need better graphics. It needs more stable client, fixed bugs and MORE CONTENT.
It always drives me crazy when people say game devs "Stole" your money. They didn't steal anything, they used marketing to trick you into giving them money whoch makes you gullible. You willingly gave them money, they didn't break into your house or steal your wallet.
Fraud and False Advertising are crimes. Using the verb "to steal" in conjunction with fraudulent activities is common place and perfectly acceptable. While the line between "clever marketing" and "lying to consumers" may sometimes be a bit hard to pin down, it doesn't prevent the law from punishing egregious instances. Your argument is patently invalid, as people "willingly" give their money to fraudsters all the time; it doesn't make the fraudster any less culpable.
Great Caeser's Ghost Batman!!!! They still haven't added DX10!!! ROFL LMAO!!! I remember them hyping the hell out of DX10 before it was released and how great the game was becasue it had DX10 and no other game did.
Great Caeser's Ghost Batman!!!! They still haven't added DX10!!! ROFL LMAO!!! I remember them hyping the hell out of DX10 before it was released and how great the game was becasue it had DX10 and no other game did. Holy crap. people still pay for this joke? Sucker born ever minute I guess.
Really reflected post there. As DavidTT said, DX10 is moving into TL any minute now. The reason why FC took more time to program DX10 before releasing it, was that they wanted to code more world physics into the game using CUDA. CUDA enables a whole new dimention of possibilities in the DX10 Kernel, but only if you take the time to code to it's full potential. I am not sure if people understand that DX10 has a fantastic potential, but if this potential is not utilized, DX10 will just look more or less like DX9. Look to LotRO i.e., they have DX10, but it does not add much value to the game. FC has repeatedly said that they don't want to take this road. They want to make something out of the ordinary to the full potential of DX10. This means:
1. River and waterfalls will have stream force tensors which will affect your character whenever in the water. A waterfall would for example take you over the edge into your death perhaps. While swimmers would find it hard to swim upstream against current.
2. Particle effects. As water come crashing down, the water will spray up in small tiny particles like in the real world. This will give a very real feel whenever you are close to water.
3. Weather will be much more complex just for the reason that wind can be added. Trees would now move with the wind as well as bloom would lay horizontal on the ground when the wind is at hurricane force.
4. Lighting and shadowing is much better (this is normally as fare as gamedevelopers are willing to go with DX10)
5. And what not because I have obviously not tested it yet.
It's better to wait 6 months extra to get the real stuff than to just get the marketing version of DX10. At least we know that we are getting the real stuff from Funcom.
Great Caeser's Ghost Batman!!!! They still haven't added DX10!!! ROFL LMAO!!! I remember them hyping the hell out of DX10 before it was released and how great the game was becasue it had DX10 and no other game did. Holy crap. people still pay for this joke? Sucker born ever minute I guess.
Really reflected post there. As DavidTT said. DX10 is moving into TL any minute now. The reason why FC took more time to program DX10 before releasing it was that they wanted to code more world physics into the game using CUDA. CUDA enables a whole new dimention of possibilities in the DX10 Kernel, but only if you take the time to code to it's full potential. I am not sure if people understand that DX10 has a fantastic potential, but if this potential is not utilized, DX10 will just look more or less like DX9. Look to LotRO i.e., they have DX10, but it does not add much value to the game. FC has repeatedly said that they don't want to take this road. They want to make something out of the ordinary to the full potential of DX10. This means:
1. River and waterfalls will now also have stream force tensors which will affect your character whenever in the water. A waterfall would for example take you over the edge, while swimmer would find it hard to swim upstream
2. Weather will be much more complex just for the reason that wind can be added. Trees would now move with the wind as well as bloom would lay horizontal and on the ground when the wind is hurricane force.
3. Lighting is much better (this is normally as fare as gamedevelopers are willing to go with DX10)
4. And what not because I have obviously not tested it yet.
It's better to wait 6 months extra to get the real stuff than to just get the marketing version of DX10. At least we know that we are getting the real stuff from Funcom now.
They should not have advertised the feature so heavily prior to launch if this was the case. It was touted as a FLAGSHIP microsoft DirectX 10 game. EE did a zillion internet interviews and videos discussing Directx10 and never ONCE did he ever say, BUT IT WONT BE IN AT LAUNCH. Oh and thanx for the recap of the features but thats not what the OP asked. HE asked WHEN, IF EVER, it would be in the game.
Excuses after 5 months are really just that. Arent they?
Ok so they gave us DirectX 9 in a state that many could argue was abhorrent. I mean performance issues at launch were rampant. What makes anyone think that Direct10 with all the added frills and thrills will run better than Dx9 did at launch? Im a little scared to see Directx10 added to the game.
Great Caeser's Ghost Batman!!!! They still haven't added DX10!!! ROFL LMAO!!! I remember them hyping the hell out of DX10 before it was released and how great the game was becasue it had DX10 and no other game did. Holy crap. people still pay for this joke? Sucker born ever minute I guess.
Really reflected post there. As DavidTT said. DX10 is moving into TL any minute now. The reason why FC took more time to program DX10 before releasing it was that they wanted to code more world physics into the game using CUDA. CUDA enables a whole new dimention of possibilities in the DX10 Kernel, but only if you take the time to code to it's full potential. I am not sure if people understand that DX10 has a fantastic potential, but if this potential is not utilized, DX10 will just look more or less like DX9. Look to LotRO i.e., they have DX10, but it does not add much value to the game. FC has repeatedly said that they don't want to take this road. They want to make something out of the ordinary to the full potential of DX10. This means:
1. River and waterfalls will now also have stream force tensors which will affect your character whenever in the water. A waterfall would for example take you over the edge, while swimmer would find it hard to swim upstream
2. Weather will be much more complex just for the reason that wind can be added. Trees would now move with the wind as well as bloom would lay horizontal and on the ground when the wind is hurricane force.
3. Lighting is much better (this is normally as fare as gamedevelopers are willing to go with DX10)
4. And what not because I have obviously not tested it yet.
It's better to wait 6 months extra to get the real stuff than to just get the marketing version of DX10. At least we know that we are getting the real stuff from Funcom now.
They should not have advertised the feature so heavily prior to launch if this was the case. It was touted as a FLAGSHIP microsoft DirectX 10 game. EE did a zillion internet interviews and videos discussing Directx10 and never ONCE did he ever say, BUT IT WONT BE IN AT LAUNCH. Oh and thanx for the recap of the features but thats not what the OP asked. HE asked WHEN, IF EVER, it would be in the game.
Excuses after 5 months are really just that. Arent they?
Hmmm... are you suggesting that I am not aware of that it's written "enhanced for DX10" on the box of AoC? First of all let me ask you what does "DX10 enhanced" mean? Does it mean DX10 is in the game or does it mean this game is build on a platform that can be enhanced to DX10? There is a difference between games you see. WOW and WAR i.e (since these are the most know games at the moment) are not DX10 enhanced and they can never get DX10 implemented. AoC can and will get DX10. Secondly, would you say that FC is the first company in the world to realize that a project is not ready for launche and resultingly throws it back in the lab for a while? No absolutely not. Most engineers in this forum know this happens every day. I commend FC for taking the right decision (a week before launch) to pump DX10 up to it's full potential instead of taking the $$$$$ shortcut by launching DX10 in trunkated form. After all I love games, and we gameenthusiasts are rarely getting stuff of this kind of quality. By the way, Mythic another developer that recently launched a MMO, just did the same thing. They canceled multiple races and cities just like 6-7 weeks before the launch. Is that a problem, no, it just wasn't ready.
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Yep. People and companies don't change. They lied us once, they will do it again.
FC as a company was based on a lie. Gaute himself said in an interview how he and other founders LIED to investors to get funding for AO. He thought it was funny.
Thank God people saw through the lies and sent a message to everyone in the industry: "This is not year 2000. We gamers won't tolerate lying anymore!".
(OP) Yes they will add DX10.
DX10 will soon come to the Test servers.
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Well, some people get upset when developers repeatedly lie to them and try to steal their money.
But I do agree with you, DX10 is not as special as some people try to make it. Graphics in AoC very pretty good from day one. AoC doesn't need better graphics. It needs more stable client, fixed bugs and MORE CONTENT.
It always drives me crazy when people say game devs "Stole" your money. They didn't steal anything, they used marketing to trick you into giving them money whoch makes you gullible. You willingly gave them money, they didn't break into your house or steal your wallet.
Fraud and False Advertising are crimes. Using the verb "to steal" in conjunction with fraudulent activities is common place and perfectly acceptable. While the line between "clever marketing" and "lying to consumers" may sometimes be a bit hard to pin down, it doesn't prevent the law from punishing egregious instances. Your argument is patently invalid, as people "willingly" give their money to fraudsters all the time; it doesn't make the fraudster any less culpable.
Great Caeser's Ghost Batman!!!! They still haven't added DX10!!! ROFL LMAO!!! I remember them hyping the hell out of DX10 before it was released and how great the game was becasue it had DX10 and no other game did.
Holy crap. people still pay for this joke?
Sucker born ever minute I guess.
This could increase the server population yeah but could also increase frequent lags if they don't do it right...
1. River and waterfalls will have stream force tensors which will affect your character whenever in the water. A waterfall would for example take you over the edge into your death perhaps. While swimmers would find it hard to swim upstream against current.
2. Particle effects. As water come crashing down, the water will spray up in small tiny particles like in the real world. This will give a very real feel whenever you are close to water.
3. Weather will be much more complex just for the reason that wind can be added. Trees would now move with the wind as well as bloom would lay horizontal on the ground when the wind is at hurricane force.
4. Lighting and shadowing is much better (this is normally as fare as gamedevelopers are willing to go with DX10)
5. And what not because I have obviously not tested it yet.
It's better to wait 6 months extra to get the real stuff than to just get the marketing version of DX10. At least we know that we are getting the real stuff from Funcom.
1. River and waterfalls will now also have stream force tensors which will affect your character whenever in the water. A waterfall would for example take you over the edge, while swimmer would find it hard to swim upstream
2. Weather will be much more complex just for the reason that wind can be added. Trees would now move with the wind as well as bloom would lay horizontal and on the ground when the wind is hurricane force.
3. Lighting is much better (this is normally as fare as gamedevelopers are willing to go with DX10)
4. And what not because I have obviously not tested it yet.
It's better to wait 6 months extra to get the real stuff than to just get the marketing version of DX10. At least we know that we are getting the real stuff from Funcom now.
They should not have advertised the feature so heavily prior to launch if this was the case. It was touted as a FLAGSHIP microsoft DirectX 10 game. EE did a zillion internet interviews and videos discussing Directx10 and never ONCE did he ever say, BUT IT WONT BE IN AT LAUNCH. Oh and thanx for the recap of the features but thats not what the OP asked. HE asked WHEN, IF EVER, it would be in the game.
Excuses after 5 months are really just that. Arent they?
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Ok so they gave us DirectX 9 in a state that many could argue was abhorrent. I mean performance issues at launch were rampant. What makes anyone think that Direct10 with all the added frills and thrills will run better than Dx9 did at launch? Im a little scared to see Directx10 added to the game.
-Lum
1. River and waterfalls will now also have stream force tensors which will affect your character whenever in the water. A waterfall would for example take you over the edge, while swimmer would find it hard to swim upstream
2. Weather will be much more complex just for the reason that wind can be added. Trees would now move with the wind as well as bloom would lay horizontal and on the ground when the wind is hurricane force.
3. Lighting is much better (this is normally as fare as gamedevelopers are willing to go with DX10)
4. And what not because I have obviously not tested it yet.
It's better to wait 6 months extra to get the real stuff than to just get the marketing version of DX10. At least we know that we are getting the real stuff from Funcom now.
They should not have advertised the feature so heavily prior to launch if this was the case. It was touted as a FLAGSHIP microsoft DirectX 10 game. EE did a zillion internet interviews and videos discussing Directx10 and never ONCE did he ever say, BUT IT WONT BE IN AT LAUNCH. Oh and thanx for the recap of the features but thats not what the OP asked. HE asked WHEN, IF EVER, it would be in the game.
Excuses after 5 months are really just that. Arent they?
Hmmm... are you suggesting that I am not aware of that it's written "enhanced for DX10" on the box of AoC? First of all let me ask you what does "DX10 enhanced" mean? Does it mean DX10 is in the game or does it mean this game is build on a platform that can be enhanced to DX10? There is a difference between games you see. WOW and WAR i.e (since these are the most know games at the moment) are not DX10 enhanced and they can never get DX10 implemented. AoC can and will get DX10. Secondly, would you say that FC is the first company in the world to realize that a project is not ready for launche and resultingly throws it back in the lab for a while? No absolutely not. Most engineers in this forum know this happens every day. I commend FC for taking the right decision (a week before launch) to pump DX10 up to it's full potential instead of taking the $$$$$ shortcut by launching DX10 in trunkated form. After all I love games, and we gameenthusiasts are rarely getting stuff of this kind of quality. By the way, Mythic another developer that recently launched a MMO, just did the same thing. They canceled multiple races and cities just like 6-7 weeks before the launch. Is that a problem, no, it just wasn't ready.
DX10 will come with the next update....but I still don't take that to serious :P