That is because it is not a "War on Terror," it is a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us. I am surprised your friends don't know this. Everyone I know in the military understands this and has been taught this from day one. Naming it the "War in Terror" was merely for the sake of political correctness. This is a war that has been going on since the 600s, so in that sense it is not "winnable" either, but that's hardly relevant. This is about survival and freedom. The war against tyranny is eternal as well. It's what we do as humans.
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
That is because it is not a "War on Terror," it is a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us. I am surprised your friends don't know this. Everyone I know in the military understands this and has been taught this from day one. Naming it the "War in Terror" was merely for the sake of political correctness. This is a war that has been going on since the 600s, so in that sense it is not "winnable" either, but that's hardly relevant. This is about survival and freedom. The war against tyranny is eternal as well. It's what we do as humans.
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
Yes, in other words, I did not say Islam was the enemy, or that it was tyranny. The Jihad is. No straw man there. You turned that into me saying Islam, which is a beautiful religion practiced by many wonderful people the world over. In fact, I have studied the faith for many years, and have incorporated Sufism into my broader spirituality.
The Jihad is the enemy, not Islam itself. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
That is because it is not a "War on Terror," it is a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us. I am surprised your friends don't know this. Everyone I know in the military understands this and has been taught this from day one. Naming it the "War in Terror" was merely for the sake of political correctness. This is a war that has been going on since the 600s, so in that sense it is not "winnable" either, but that's hardly relevant. This is about survival and freedom. The war against tyranny is eternal as well. It's what we do as humans.
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
Yes, in other words, I did not say Islam was the enemy, or that it was tyranny. The Jihad is. No straw man there. You turned that into me saying Islam, which is a beautiful religion practiced by many wonderful people the world over. In fact, I have studied the faith for many years, and have incorporated Sufism into my broader spirituality.
The Jihad is the enemy, not Islam itself. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
Fishermage, that is a distinction without a difference, and no one in the Islamic world, be they extreme or moderate or liberal, buys it for a single nanosecond.
Because the nutcases over here do not make that distinction at all. "The wogs begin at Calais", you know.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
That is because it is not a "War on Terror," it is a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us. I am surprised your friends don't know this. Everyone I know in the military understands this and has been taught this from day one. Naming it the "War in Terror" was merely for the sake of political correctness. This is a war that has been going on since the 600s, so in that sense it is not "winnable" either, but that's hardly relevant. This is about survival and freedom. The war against tyranny is eternal as well. It's what we do as humans.
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
Yes, in other words, I did not say Islam was the enemy, or that it was tyranny. The Jihad is. No straw man there. You turned that into me saying Islam, which is a beautiful religion practiced by many wonderful people the world over. In fact, I have studied the faith for many years, and have incorporated Sufism into my broader spirituality.
The Jihad is the enemy, not Islam itself. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
Fishermage, that is a distinction without a difference, and no one in the Islamic world, be they extreme or moderate or liberal, buys it for a single nanosecond.
Because the nutcases over here do not make that distinction at all. "The wogs begin at Calais", you know.
Actually it is a distinction with a very big difference, and all moderate Muslims know it. Again, sorry if you do not understand this. As a student of Islam who is friends with moderate Muslims and working towards reformation within the Muslim community by networking with like-minded individuals, I couldn't disagree with you more.
The Jihad is the enemy of moderate Islam, and moderate Muslims who want to live in freedom know it; write on it, and are on the front lines.
Slythe, the tax plan is going to be for people making FAR LESS than 250k. You're being sold a lie. Besides, let's say you're right...just for argument's sake... The amount of individuals making 250k could never EVER hope to pay for the proposals Obama has suggested. Not even HALF of them. So where is that money coming from? ....Business. But... Guess what, it's not just big business.....it's SMALL business. making LESS than 250k as a business is not the same as an individual. My father has a corporation, but he never made 250k with it. But because he's a corp, BAM. taxes go UP. Small business can't absorb such pain, so they'll lay off...you guessed it... employees. or they'll close up shop and move to....insert any other nation here...why? because the US has the SECOND highest corporate taxes ON THE PLANET. That's why.... so bye bye jobs. bye bye money. Bye bye working man, you're laid off.
I guess 3 million+ workers have lost their jobs since 2000 because the Bush tax cuts were too low, huh? That must be why McCain wants to INCREASE the tax cuts for the top 2%.
You are arguing for the side that already lost. It's your time though, you can waste it however you want.
Slythe, the tax plan is going to be for people making FAR LESS than 250k. You're being sold a lie. Besides, let's say you're right...just for argument's sake... The amount of individuals making 250k could never EVER hope to pay for the proposals Obama has suggested. Not even HALF of them. So where is that money coming from? ....Business. But... Guess what, it's not just big business.....it's SMALL business. making LESS than 250k as a business is not the same as an individual. My father has a corporation, but he never made 250k with it. But because he's a corp, BAM. taxes go UP. Small business can't absorb such pain, so they'll lay off...you guessed it... employees. or they'll close up shop and move to....insert any other nation here...why? because the US has the SECOND highest corporate taxes ON THE PLANET. That's why.... so bye bye jobs. bye bye money. Bye bye working man, you're laid off.
I guess 3 million+ workers have lost their jobs since 2000 because the Bush tax cuts were too low, huh? That must be why McCain wants to INCREASE the tax cuts for the top 2%.
You are arguing for the side that already lost. It's your time though, you can waste it however you want.
They lost them because they continue to buy Chinese goods, they lost them because 10.3 million immigrants have arrived since 2000 an estimated 5.6 million are here illeagaly,
Ah yes the good old Global economy, makes your heart swell with pride doesn't it.
Want a job? Take it back from an illegal alien... if you can stomach hardwork.... i doubt most Americans can anymore...Or stop buying goods made in China, it is really quite simple..
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War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
Yes, in other words, I did not say Islam was the enemy, or that it was tyranny. The Jihad is. No straw man there. You turned that into me saying Islam, which is a beautiful religion practiced by many wonderful people the world over. In fact, I have studied the faith for many years, and have incorporated Sufism into my broader spirituality.
The Jihad is the enemy, not Islam itself. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
fishermage.blogspot.com
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
Yes, in other words, I did not say Islam was the enemy, or that it was tyranny. The Jihad is. No straw man there. You turned that into me saying Islam, which is a beautiful religion practiced by many wonderful people the world over. In fact, I have studied the faith for many years, and have incorporated Sufism into my broader spirituality.
The Jihad is the enemy, not Islam itself. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
Fishermage, that is a distinction without a difference, and no one in the Islamic world, be they extreme or moderate or liberal, buys it for a single nanosecond.
Because the nutcases over here do not make that distinction at all. "The wogs begin at Calais", you know.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
War on tyranny my veteran (in the military, not SWG sense) ass.
Islam is no more tyranny incarnate than Christianity is. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism.
Unless, Fishermage, you're a raging atheist out to stomp out all religion. You know, like Stalin was.
Some people will say anything to justify their fear of "the Other".
I never said Islam is tyranny. I'm also not afraid of anything. Not sure what straw man you are going after now, but it must be a good one.
Excuse me, but you said this is "a war to save civilization from the Jihad against us" and then said "this is a war that has been going on since the 600's" and that "This is about survival and freedom".
The only straw man I'm addressing is the one you brought to the conversation.
Yes, in other words, I did not say Islam was the enemy, or that it was tyranny. The Jihad is. No straw man there. You turned that into me saying Islam, which is a beautiful religion practiced by many wonderful people the world over. In fact, I have studied the faith for many years, and have incorporated Sufism into my broader spirituality.
The Jihad is the enemy, not Islam itself. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
Fishermage, that is a distinction without a difference, and no one in the Islamic world, be they extreme or moderate or liberal, buys it for a single nanosecond.
Because the nutcases over here do not make that distinction at all. "The wogs begin at Calais", you know.
Actually it is a distinction with a very big difference, and all moderate Muslims know it. Again, sorry if you do not understand this. As a student of Islam who is friends with moderate Muslims and working towards reformation within the Muslim community by networking with like-minded individuals, I couldn't disagree with you more.
The Jihad is the enemy of moderate Islam, and moderate Muslims who want to live in freedom know it; write on it, and are on the front lines.
fishermage.blogspot.com
I guess 3 million+ workers have lost their jobs since 2000 because the Bush tax cuts were too low, huh? That must be why McCain wants to INCREASE the tax cuts for the top 2%.
You are arguing for the side that already lost. It's your time though, you can waste it however you want.
I guess 3 million+ workers have lost their jobs since 2000 because the Bush tax cuts were too low, huh? That must be why McCain wants to INCREASE the tax cuts for the top 2%.
You are arguing for the side that already lost. It's your time though, you can waste it however you want.
They lost them because they continue to buy Chinese goods, they lost them because 10.3 million immigrants have arrived since 2000 an estimated 5.6 million are here illeagaly,
Ah yes the good old Global economy, makes your heart swell with pride doesn't it.
Want a job? Take it back from an illegal alien... if you can stomach hardwork.... i doubt most Americans can anymore...Or stop buying goods made in China, it is really quite simple..