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marowit
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In case you didn't know there is a cash shop button in Wrath,blizz says it will just be for cosmetic items but once the cash starts to flow it won't take them long to put items with stats in there, maybe even buy premade max lvl chars.
I lost all my respect for blizz since they anounced that sc2 will actually be 3 games, sounds great more contend, but actually it just means 3*50$ not just 50$ for the game.
Since the merger with Activision blizz is doing the most stupid things to get more $$, i know games are all about the devs making $$, but that does not mean you have to screw over the people that gave you cash to start with, and i don't mean people that only heard about blizz form wow i mean wc 1+2, sc, diablo1, old school stuff.
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Remember the good old days when devs made games just for the sake of making a great game?
They are forever gone now all they care is about how much they can earn from them, if they can't make millions they won't make that game.
REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS AND REGRET THEY HAVE PASSED.
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I don't know if you're trolling or not, but if this is indeed true, then the cycle of whoring is finally complete...
Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts.
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Is this true, do you have a link about it?
If it's really is true then it's the beginning of the end... Shops for real cash have nothing to do in a P2P game.
here you go
link for Costumization:http://gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20617
and for sc2:http://gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20603
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Remember the good old days when devs made games just for the sake of making a great game?
They are forever gone now all they care is about how much they can earn from them, if they can't make millions they won't make that game.
REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS AND REGRET THEY HAVE PASSED.
Do you have links from Wow website?
Im not sure how old most of you are but its not uncommon for a company to want to make more money so Sc2 being 3 games you said for $50 each is smart beacuse people will pay for sc2x3.
The question is will it warrant three purchases of the game? I can't see them including that much content to be honest.
The cash shop thing is just pure greedy. They are obviously aware of the huge amounts of cash they could make from it. I'd imagine they will start off with cosmetic items and then introduce double XP scrolls and various other crap you can buy. This hardly suprises me to be honest. I rememer when Blizz said they would never allow PvE > PvP transfers....
Yep its all about money now
Better play Lotro. They gave value for your money. The gave more free contect then tBC expansion for Wow gave.
The shop will be for cosmetic iems only. Not stats. Thats what they said. If you think they'll add stat items in there as well, you're overreacting.
Also, nowhere have they said that the SC2 "expansions" will cost 50$? Way to misinform people.
Oh boy if this goes live you DO know what this all means right?
The end of the juggernaut is slowly creeping up on them... Of course the asian market will eat this up because they freaking love the cash shops... I'm not trying to troll (no really I'm not0 but the writing is definantly on the wall and the slow downfall of WoW is starting to begin...
I have to mention reading about the "paid character customizations" really pisses me off to no end. I mean really I gotta pay my hard earned money TO LOOK DIFFERENT? Yea fuck you blizz seriously makes me glad I gave up on the game 2 months ago and I used to be a total WoW freak.
I wonder how many peeps are going to get pissed off over this...Trust me it don't take much to get the natives restless.......Aion is looking better and better if they go through with this lame brain idea.
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Although I hate to see item shops of any kind.. the item shop that blizzard "might" put in is for "cosmetic" items only, for a long time cosmetic items have been given to players who play the WoW card game, Who attend WoW shows... this is a gross over reaction.
In regards to SC2, people need to relax and see what your getting.
Starcraft 2 is different to SC1 as the missions are not linear you choose what missions to do to and that effects the story, you cant do something like that with just 8 or 10 missions. SC2 is massivly story driven and the game needs a wide scope to tell the terrrain story. Most will play SC2 for multiplayer and thats included in the first release.
If they added all this in 1 release, they said the game would be delayed by several years more, your talking 90 missions, possibly over 100 hours of FMV and ingame cinematics, even blizzard dont have the work power or budget to pull somthing that massive off.
But we all know you'll all be buying starcrraft 2.
All cash shop should be forbidden in all MMOs.
The point of playing a RPG is building up your character by obtaining items/equipment through gameplay.
Taking shortcuts by buying items you meant to acquire by playing the game defeat the point of playing an RPG (both single player and MMO),
If people don't have the time/patience to build up their equipment by playing the game, they shouldn not play MMORPG, they should play muyltiplayer games where characters have already the best equipment available and they are ready to fight.
I know you said you want it for aesthetic reasons, but even such items should be aquired by playing the game.
Of all the loathsome and ridiculous ways people can gain advantage and renown in WoW, you people are upset someone might get a fancy hat for a few bucks or +5 to their fishing pole because they live with their parents? What the hell difference does it make? People enjoy spending money on imaginary crap, and that's what you do every time you tire of the game but keep your account active so you don't lose your raiding spot.
Spending real money on imaginary crap is the only reason you own a computer. It's probably the only reason you own a car.
The PVE > PVP transfers are a long time coming. When there was a whole lot of open PVP going on, and no leveling guilds with endgame players, you could argue it was more difficult to level on a PVP realm and thus we should be treated as an elite, but it's just not possible to corpse camp lowbies anymore. The only way to get griefed in WoW is by gesturing condescendingly at your attacker then talking trash about him on general chat. If world PVP makes leveling difficult for you in WoW, it because you're a rotten human being.
Never mind that you're supposed to be leveling in an open PVP environment because you enjoy the challenge and the surprises, not because you get a gold star in Heaven for being hardcore.
But no, let's protect neurotic people's meaningless epeen rather than let customers play where they want. If rerolling and duplicating 40 or 50 levels on a new server is that much of a chore for you, you must be some kind of a loser, right?
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You're kidding right? You know they are a multi-billion dollar corporation right?
Though, I do think the quality would fall into the abyss with all of the people trying to have their little part in the development of a game.
regarding SC2, they have the money to throw more resources at it, but there's only so much that can add, they'll still be restricted by things like the speed at which a pc can compile the code (i've read developer reports, some can take hours to just compile, think of having to do that each time someone makes a change)
the more people you have on a project also, the more mistakes can be made, so the more you need to spend on quality control, and you need to do more builds to test the extra fixes you're needing to make, and you need more testers to make sure all the content can be tested on schedule...
it escalates a lot more than just "hire a dozen more programmers", i've not even covered all of the extra that they'd need above, probably not even half. so it's not quite so simple.
now, regarding a cash shop, it does seem to be taking it onto a fine line, just having a few novelties is alright i guess, but it all depends where they take it from there. The only thing i could say on that is to wait and see if it does get implemented, and if so, in what way, before making any judgement.
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Look at one of their interviews. It might cost money to play online. Im not sure if its Sc2 though, it could have been said for Diablo 3.
I don't have a link so don't ask me, but im sure if you simply search the latest interview on this website you can find the info.
Look at one of their interviews. It might cost money to play online. Im not sure if its Sc2 though, it could have been said for Diablo 3.
I don't have a link so don't ask me, but im sure if you simply search the latest interview on this website you can find the info.
Normal Battlenet 1/2 will be free, they might add additional paid features but thats as far as they have said. Bottom line BNet2 is FREE.
Maybe they are planing to slowly kill WoW so people will have nothing to play when their new mmo comes out, they said that their new mmo won't canibalize on WoW's costumers but lets be real, where the hell is i supposed to get millions of subs?
I have the feeling that this was planed a long time ago and they are just folowing the plan.
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Remember the good old days when devs made games just for the sake of making a great game?
They are forever gone now all they care is about how much they can earn from them, if they can't make millions they won't make that game.
REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS AND REGRET THEY HAVE PASSED.
Why would they charge extra for cosmetic changes?
I don't understand why blizzard would do that, you know thier going to lose subs over this.
people already pay a monthly fee, whats next cash shop linked dungeon attunements?
Super epic flying mounts on the cash shop? I don't like this one bit.
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Look at one of their interviews. It might cost money to play online. Im not sure if its Sc2 though, it could have been said for Diablo 3.
I don't have a link so don't ask me, but im sure if you simply search the latest interview on this website you can find the info.
Normal Battlenet 1/2 will be free, they might add additional paid features but thats as far as they have said. Bottom line BNet2 is FREE.
Not having the money or power my ass, if they didn't even have WoW they would STILL have plenty of money to develop SC2 for 50$/game.
Where's their 150,000,000$ a month going from WoW? They don't have enough money? They have more than enough money to make 2 MMO's a month.
this... actually... sucks monkey balls!!!
Even i its only cosmetic stuff! they will put mounts in there aswwell, so when you see a cool mount, and it will be from a shop... i dont think it will bring joy in to your hearth.
That wount do anything good for a game, if you whana cool mount, go to ZG and raid boss for it...
Even if its cosmetic, you have to earn it in game, not working your ass off , and spend that cash on game items....
Blizzard, thats first time you really really dropped a huge lump o crap!
I can't decide if this is better or worse than expecting people to grind 1000 hours for a new model of the same epic mount.
Oh well, all in a day's work for Blizzard devs.
Look at one of their interviews. It might cost money to play online. Im not sure if its Sc2 though, it could have been said for Diablo 3.
I don't have a link so don't ask me, but im sure if you simply search the latest interview on this website you can find the info.
Normal Battlenet 1/2 will be free, they might add additional paid features but thats as far as they have said. Bottom line BNet2 is FREE.
Not having the money or power my ass, if they didn't even have WoW they would STILL have plenty of money to develop SC2 for 50$/game.
Where's their 150,000,000$ a month going from WoW? They don't have enough money? They have more than enough money to make 2 MMO's a month.
It all goes to holding up Vivendie and paying their shareholders, what little of the money WoW makes that blizzard gets to play with is split between
Look at one of their interviews. It might cost money to play online. Im not sure if its Sc2 though, it could have been said for Diablo 3.
I don't have a link so don't ask me, but im sure if you simply search the latest interview on this website you can find the info.
Normal Battlenet 1/2 will be free, they might add additional paid features but thats as far as they have said. Bottom line BNet2 is FREE.
Not having the money or power my ass, if they didn't even have WoW they would STILL have plenty of money to develop SC2 for 50$/game.
Where's their 150,000,000$ a month going from WoW? They don't have enough money? They have more than enough money to make 2 MMO's a month.
you do realize that 6 million of the wow players are in china and their game is run by another company called the9 so they get very little money from china.
also blizzard is a business and the aim of a business is to make preofit. not spend it all.
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Can we all stop saying how little money Blizzard gets from the game?
I am fairly sure that Vinvendi keeps a company that makes insane margins very well funded. I am also sure that Blizzard makes the lions share of the profits from their dealings in China.
Now that I'm done with that, I think cash item shops suck. I don't care if the items are only cosmetic and people want to believe that it will not break ground to introduce better items sales in the future. Even if it doesn't it still sucks.
Give me a quest to gain a new outfit, haircut or whatever. Make me grind rep, raid a dungeon or slaughter people in PvP. I have enjoyed all the FREE content that blizzard has rewarded me with for being a loyal subscriber. However I don't want to them change stances now and expect me to reach into the wallet to get content that was once free.
It sets a terrible precident and has no business being in a subscription based game. Mark my words, this will open the floodgates of cash incentives if Blizzard does this. From that point on content will be designed not to be fun, but designed around how it affects virtual sales figures in favor of the company.
The only one who will benefit from this is Blizzard. This is the same as paying for a company to stop giving you free updates. I just don't understand why anyone would be ok with this.
I couldn't agree more. I'm surprised there aren't more people panicking over this. With how many companies mimic Blizzard's every move, if they pull a stunt like this it will turn the MMO world on its head.