server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
You're right, server merges are death. I mean WoW merged servers a few years ago, and we all can see how dead it is now, I mean no one hardly even talks about it anymore. I barely remember it.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
You're right, server merges are death. I mean WoW merged servers a few years ago, and we all can see how dead it is now, I mean no one hardly even talks about it anymore. I barely remember it.
WOW never merged servers. EVER. The closest thing they did to a server merge was about 6 months ago they allowed non-russian speaking people to transfer off of the two 'unofficial' russian servers because they were converting them to russian language. Most EU players knew they were kinda for Russians, but when they actually changed the language, it would've been hard for english speaking players to play LOL.. so they gave them all free transfers off. The russian players on those unofficial russian servers never had to do anything, they just kep playing and the game just got switched to the russian language.
In fact, in the past two weeks, Blizzard has launched 4 new servers in EU because of high populations. And they will possibly launch more NA servers when Wrath is launched.
server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
and thats not counting that MANY people who saw a friend play and said HELL NO
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
No it is not and i am a fanboy and may be a total retard also.
Cheers Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
I honestly cant say that Ive played a decent MMO since EQ, I played that badboy for 5 years, since, I havent played a single game for more than 3 months.
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
Constantly nerfing the amount of XP needed to level., nerfing all raidbosses by 30% before WOTLK, nerfing the number of people needed to raid (pre-bc going into bc), giving the option to do endgame on easymode and hard mode? Yeah WoW is now a dumbed down version of WoW.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
I'm Pretty sure Mythic announced that they have shipped 1,5 million and sold 850K (Mark Jacobs said it) so where do you get your numbers from?
I got them from the previous announcement to the one this week. I read the new numbers, but it doesn't really change much. The 850k is sold out of stores, but yet it appears that a lot of people are not subscribing beyond their first 30 days. I'll still say that I would be surprised if WAR has more than 200k players that are paying for their subscription beyond the first 30 days.
I will mention again that I do play, and do like the game to a degree. Unfortunately, that also lets me see the population of my main server, Badlands (roughly the #3 server population wise), drop significantly since release. It is plainly visible to me that most of the people who purchased the game in the first couple of weeks have left. Heck, it is plainly evident in my guild, which was made up of ex-DAOC players who were all very excited about WAR. Sadly, out of about 2 dozen, only about 4 are on at any one evening now. And I am talking essentially two dedicated guild 8-mans from DAOC, that don't find the RvR in WAR worth the effort.
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
And you fight for better MMO's by killing them at birth? I hope you're not a doctor. Like it or not, it takes time to get the formula right. If you can't wait for that, stick with WoW and COD, because that's all you're ever going to get.
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
And you fight for better MMO's by killing them at birth? I hope you're not a doctor. Like it or not, it takes time to get the formula right. If you can't wait for that, stick with WoW and COD, because that's all you're ever going to get.
Tell that to our friend who posted above me. That's our problem.
You don't have to convince me. Convince him that WAR is not an example for all MMORPG's. Time is NOT there in present day games.
Ever wondered what happens to that 15 year old boy who buys for his anniversary his first copy of an MMO(RPG) called War and installs the game with the advised low/low server? Chances are he will be lost and chatting on an empty server isn't the kind of thing to promote on line role playing gaming with zero roleplaying isn't it?
I'll bet you 100 dollars he'll launch COD X version instead after 2 hours.
server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
While I think it's fair to say that Mythic over-estimated their initial subs, which resulted in having too many servers, there are a number of important points that you seem to have left out:
First, did you count the number of remaining servers, after the merges? I haven't either, but just a quick look tells me that it is still a healthy number.
Your numbers are based on a prediction, which is fine, but it's not actually an accurate count.
When you say dying, you're not actually thinking about what the game needs in order to be profitable for the company running it. I see absolutely no evidence that the game is dying.
While I understand that the 2 million number was way too high an estimate, you seem awfully determined to see this game fail. I'm not entirely sure why. You didn't like it. That's great. You're welcome to your opnion, but I don't really see the need to declare it "dying" as there are still a large number of players enjoying it.
Is the game doing record numbers and taking the MMO world by storm? No. Is it in the process of dying? No, it isn't.
PS: I'm not a fanboi. It's actually my job to understand things like this.
I hate to quote stradden simply because he shouldn't need quoting, but he said everything I thought when I read this dismal topic. Get a life OP.
server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
Hi Bodypass, how's your new account serving you?
I must compliment you on your new avatar. It suits you perfectly.
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
And you fight for better MMO's by killing them at birth? I hope you're not a doctor. Like it or not, it takes time to get the formula right. If you can't wait for that, stick with WoW and COD, because that's all you're ever going to get.
Tell that to our friend who posted above me. That's our problem.
You don't have to convince me. Convince him that WAR is not an example for all MMORPG's. Time is NOT there in present day games.
Ever wondered what happens to that 15 year old boy who buys for his anniversary his first copy of an MMO(RPG) called War and installs the game with the advised low/low server? Chances are he will be lost and chatting on an empty server isn't the kind of thing to promote on line role playing gaming with zero roleplaying isn't it?
I'll bet you 100 dollars he'll launch COD X version instead after 2 hours.
As a pvp game, WAR's content is player driven. Right now the population is spread too thin across too many servers. And there aren't enough rewards to encourage RvR. These are fixable problems, and Mythic has publicly announced that they will be fixed. I'm betting that this will be a really great game 6 months from now - certainly much better by the end of this year. Sure, we'll lose a lot of the ADD-addled 15 year olds in the process, but they already have a better game for them available, don't you think? And if you're saying that the market won't allow an MMO a couple of months to get the formula right, then you're just going to have to get by with WoW, forever.
And some people here say that WAR did an excellent release but that's just bull, they have lost a lot of players and they have done a lot of misstakes but the game do have many nice features also and hopefully it will be a great game in a year. I don't really see it having more than half a million subs ever however, it is hard to get a game on it's feet after a too early release. It is really sad that several games have been flushed down the drain because of early launches, WAR, AoC and Vanguard are all good games but the devs got greedy and wanted to release them before they were really finnished, therefore their subs number dived after launch. You can't really do that on the market today, it is suicide.
Name a better mmo release, you can't. If you do you are doing one of two things; one lieing or two being wrong.
Wars release is as soild and smooth as possible the updates and fixes after the release are equally more progressive and effective than any other mmo co. has managed. However, war has a core problem. Its group tactics are very well done and play out interactive and fun; however, its personal combat is slow and far to simple, almost no reactive (personal enviromental) skill is involved. This and the addition that war in teir one plays wow fried were all classes are great soloers and do well, this changes once you hit mid-T3 where if you are a healer that is ALL you do, if you are a tank you tank and put up small dps (problem the least effect class type), if your a dps you dps (not tank and not heal, ie die alot but hey your the only people that do ANY DAMAGE)
WHILE I LIKE THE ABOVE CLASS SYSTEM WAR IS MISLEADING TO PLAYERS OFF THE BAT, and people who liked their classes find them not liking them anymore and being generally useless solo and some times even in duos.
Two not enough quests (too little exp from them) despite what people say you can't hardly level up via questing like you can in wow. You have to go to pqs, senerios, or open rvr to get extra exp to keep your self up to level. Many people do not what to do this.
Despite these and the more FINE and opinated issues that war has none of them are worse off then what 99% of mmos release with.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
At 800 K users and 50% low/low servers, while at 500 K users we had 50% full/full servers and no low/low servers. Explain....
And where are those other 400 K?
Here we go :
I'll explain: 800K user accounts created (Oct 10th 750 K statement of Mythic remember).
Shipped boxes to retailers: 1.2 M. But no 400K extra accounts since they still sit on the retailers shelves.
Of those 800K user accounts created, 55% left already: so we see a 350K population manning our servers with a result of low/low servers compared to the 700K of the first 2/3 weeks.
Xfire results show the decline for Xfire users.
So the 1.2 M are only sold to retailers - not to customers. The 800K created accounts are certainly not ALL active players.... and we see indeed 50% .... empty servers .... and as of next week server merges.
havent read past the 4th post but war is good, i haven't resubed as im playing RoM now but if they tone down the SC and buff the open RvR then i will be more temped to resub it.
that is the number one factor for me, and i will go out on a limb and say alot will agree somewhat with this
The above post is all opinion and should not be taken as a sign that anyone else agrees with it. Nor that the grammar and spelling involved will be up to your standards.
server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy ! Every fucking MMO did this, better go bigger than too small. This is a normal process and it is no way of telling how good a game is. The difference is that WAR can offer server moves, merges at the first month, other games needed 6 months to even be able to do it! lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. who is the Majority? Thats just you or you can back that up? 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special. WAR is barely 2 months old and already has a content update coming for free. I dare say that it is far from dead, but you stay in la-la land and have a good time
"Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"
strategy, I disagree. There absolutely are not 800k people playing WAR. Yeah, maybe retailers have sold 800k boxes, but I wouldn't bet on there being many more than 200k playing. When the game released, they said they had 750k players, servers had 30 minute queues even after they increased concurrent population limit, and T1 and T2 pve, rvr, and scenarios were all packed nearly 24/7. Now, they say they have 800k players and there is never a queue, all the pve areas are empty, scenarios are only well populated during prime time, and open rvr is generally only crowded during the witching PQ.
If I were not in a guild and in vent, I would probably never find a group for a PQ beyond around level 25. And guess what? I am on Badlands, probably one of the top 3 population servers. I have toons now in T1 through T4 and it is really only active around T2 with all the people bored out of their skulls with T3 and 4 on their alts.
For the record, I play WAR, I hate WoW, and I want WAR to succeed. However, I don't believe a word that press release says.
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You're right, server merges are death. I mean WoW merged servers a few years ago, and we all can see how dead it is now, I mean no one hardly even talks about it anymore. I barely remember it.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
You're right, server merges are death. I mean WoW merged servers a few years ago, and we all can see how dead it is now, I mean no one hardly even talks about it anymore. I barely remember it.
WOW never merged servers. EVER. The closest thing they did to a server merge was about 6 months ago they allowed non-russian speaking people to transfer off of the two 'unofficial' russian servers because they were converting them to russian language. Most EU players knew they were kinda for Russians, but when they actually changed the language, it would've been hard for english speaking players to play LOL.. so they gave them all free transfers off. The russian players on those unofficial russian servers never had to do anything, they just kep playing and the game just got switched to the russian language.
In fact, in the past two weeks, Blizzard has launched 4 new servers in EU because of high populations. And they will possibly launch more NA servers when Wrath is launched.
and thats not counting that MANY people who saw a friend play and said HELL NO
WAR is a dumbed down version of WoW and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
No it is not and i am a fanboy and may be a total retard also.
Cheers
Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
Once An Addict Always An Addict .
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those
yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those
yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
I honestly cant say that Ive played a decent MMO since EQ, I played that badboy for 5 years, since, I havent played a single game for more than 3 months.
Constantly nerfing the amount of XP needed to level., nerfing all raidbosses by 30% before WOTLK, nerfing the number of people needed to raid (pre-bc going into bc), giving the option to do endgame on easymode and hard mode? Yeah WoW is now a dumbed down version of WoW.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those
yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
I'm Pretty sure Mythic announced that they have shipped 1,5 million and sold 850K (Mark Jacobs said it) so where do you get your numbers from?
I got them from the previous announcement to the one this week. I read the new numbers, but it doesn't really change much. The 850k is sold out of stores, but yet it appears that a lot of people are not subscribing beyond their first 30 days. I'll still say that I would be surprised if WAR has more than 200k players that are paying for their subscription beyond the first 30 days.
I will mention again that I do play, and do like the game to a degree. Unfortunately, that also lets me see the population of my main server, Badlands (roughly the #3 server population wise), drop significantly since release. It is plainly visible to me that most of the people who purchased the game in the first couple of weeks have left. Heck, it is plainly evident in my guild, which was made up of ex-DAOC players who were all very excited about WAR. Sadly, out of about 2 dozen, only about 4 are on at any one evening now. And I am talking essentially two dedicated guild 8-mans from DAOC, that don't find the RvR in WAR worth the effort.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those
yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
And you fight for better MMO's by killing them at birth? I hope you're not a doctor. Like it or not, it takes time to get the formula right. If you can't wait for that, stick with WoW and COD, because that's all you're ever going to get.
So, 51% of the populace doesn't eat at McDonalds. I guess it's a failure.
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those
yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
And you fight for better MMO's by killing them at birth? I hope you're not a doctor. Like it or not, it takes time to get the formula right. If you can't wait for that, stick with WoW and COD, because that's all you're ever going to get.
Tell that to our friend who posted above me. That's our problem.
You don't have to convince me. Convince him that WAR is not an example for all MMORPG's. Time is NOT there in present day games.
Ever wondered what happens to that 15 year old boy who buys for his anniversary his first copy of an MMO(RPG) called War and installs the game with the advised low/low server? Chances are he will be lost and chatting on an empty server isn't the kind of thing to promote on line role playing gaming with zero roleplaying isn't it?
I'll bet you 100 dollars he'll launch COD X version instead after 2 hours.
I wish these transfers were actually forced moves. I always felt for the type of game it is WAR launched with TOO many servers.
While I think it's fair to say that Mythic over-estimated their initial subs, which resulted in having too many servers, there are a number of important points that you seem to have left out:
First, did you count the number of remaining servers, after the merges? I haven't either, but just a quick look tells me that it is still a healthy number.
Your numbers are based on a prediction, which is fine, but it's not actually an accurate count.
When you say dying, you're not actually thinking about what the game needs in order to be profitable for the company running it. I see absolutely no evidence that the game is dying.
While I understand that the 2 million number was way too high an estimate, you seem awfully determined to see this game fail. I'm not entirely sure why. You didn't like it. That's great. You're welcome to your opnion, but I don't really see the need to declare it "dying" as there are still a large number of players enjoying it.
Is the game doing record numbers and taking the MMO world by storm? No. Is it in the process of dying? No, it isn't.
PS: I'm not a fanboi. It's actually my job to understand things like this.
I hate to quote stradden simply because he shouldn't need quoting, but he said everything I thought when I read this dismal topic. Get a life OP.
Hi Bodypass, how's your new account serving you?
I must compliment you on your new avatar. It suits you perfectly.
to OP, what game are you developing that you want WAR to fail so much? oh, you barley can turn your computer on? /dismiss.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
markoras how you like fallout 3
and o yea they sold 1.2 milion copies and have 800 k current players
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/EA-Reports-Second-Quarter-Fiscal/story.aspx?guid={C37ED931-B5D1-4370-808C-F4925CF5F43B} get your facts straight
WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and anyone who says otherwise is a fan boy or a total retard.
There, fixed your post.
But i dont play either of those
yay im normal !
War made me give up on mmo's. RIP MMORPG's
And this last sentence my friends ... is the sad reason we must fight for better MMORPG's... or we will all be playing COD6,7 and 8 within 3 years.
This is a GOOD advice for the non critical fans of EVERY MMORPG btw.
And you fight for better MMO's by killing them at birth? I hope you're not a doctor. Like it or not, it takes time to get the formula right. If you can't wait for that, stick with WoW and COD, because that's all you're ever going to get.
Tell that to our friend who posted above me. That's our problem.
You don't have to convince me. Convince him that WAR is not an example for all MMORPG's. Time is NOT there in present day games.
Ever wondered what happens to that 15 year old boy who buys for his anniversary his first copy of an MMO(RPG) called War and installs the game with the advised low/low server? Chances are he will be lost and chatting on an empty server isn't the kind of thing to promote on line role playing gaming with zero roleplaying isn't it?
I'll bet you 100 dollars he'll launch COD X version instead after 2 hours.
As a pvp game, WAR's content is player driven. Right now the population is spread too thin across too many servers. And there aren't enough rewards to encourage RvR. These are fixable problems, and Mythic has publicly announced that they will be fixed. I'm betting that this will be a really great game 6 months from now - certainly much better by the end of this year. Sure, we'll lose a lot of the ADD-addled 15 year olds in the process, but they already have a better game for them available, don't you think? And if you're saying that the market won't allow an MMO a couple of months to get the formula right, then you're just going to have to get by with WoW, forever.
Name a better mmo release, you can't. If you do you are doing one of two things; one lieing or two being wrong.
Wars release is as soild and smooth as possible the updates and fixes after the release are equally more progressive and effective than any other mmo co. has managed. However, war has a core problem. Its group tactics are very well done and play out interactive and fun; however, its personal combat is slow and far to simple, almost no reactive (personal enviromental) skill is involved. This and the addition that war in teir one plays wow fried were all classes are great soloers and do well, this changes once you hit mid-T3 where if you are a healer that is ALL you do, if you are a tank you tank and put up small dps (problem the least effect class type), if your a dps you dps (not tank and not heal, ie die alot but hey your the only people that do ANY DAMAGE)
WHILE I LIKE THE ABOVE CLASS SYSTEM WAR IS MISLEADING TO PLAYERS OFF THE BAT, and people who liked their classes find them not liking them anymore and being generally useless solo and some times even in duos.
Two not enough quests (too little exp from them) despite what people say you can't hardly level up via questing like you can in wow. You have to go to pqs, senerios, or open rvr to get extra exp to keep your self up to level. Many people do not what to do this.
Despite these and the more FINE and opinated issues that war has none of them are worse off then what 99% of mmos release with.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
At 800 K users and 50% low/low servers, while at 500 K users we had 50% full/full servers and no low/low servers. Explain....
And where are those other 400 K?
Here we go :
I'll explain: 800K user accounts created (Oct 10th 750 K statement of Mythic remember).
Shipped boxes to retailers: 1.2 M. But no 400K extra accounts since they still sit on the retailers shelves.
Of those 800K user accounts created, 55% left already: so we see a 350K population manning our servers with a result of low/low servers compared to the 700K of the first 2/3 weeks.
Xfire results show the decline for Xfire users.
So the 1.2 M are only sold to retailers - not to customers. The 800K created accounts are certainly not ALL active players.... and we see indeed 50% .... empty servers .... and as of next week server merges.
Facts straight.
havent read past the 4th post but war is good, i haven't resubed as im playing RoM now but if they tone down the SC and buff the open RvR then i will be more temped to resub it.
that is the number one factor for me, and i will go out on a limb and say alot will agree somewhat with this
The above post is all opinion and should not be taken as a sign that anyone else agrees with it.
Nor that the grammar and spelling involved will be up to your standards.
strategy, I disagree. There absolutely are not 800k people playing WAR. Yeah, maybe retailers have sold 800k boxes, but I wouldn't bet on there being many more than 200k playing. When the game released, they said they had 750k players, servers had 30 minute queues even after they increased concurrent population limit, and T1 and T2 pve, rvr, and scenarios were all packed nearly 24/7. Now, they say they have 800k players and there is never a queue, all the pve areas are empty, scenarios are only well populated during prime time, and open rvr is generally only crowded during the witching PQ.
If I were not in a guild and in vent, I would probably never find a group for a PQ beyond around level 25. And guess what? I am on Badlands, probably one of the top 3 population servers. I have toons now in T1 through T4 and it is really only active around T2 with all the people bored out of their skulls with T3 and 4 on their alts.
For the record, I play WAR, I hate WoW, and I want WAR to succeed. However, I don't believe a word that press release says.