server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
Thx for creating your account to do one thing.... one trolling post!!!!.....
You're right, server merges are death. I mean WoW merged servers a few years ago, and we all can see how dead it is now, I mean no one hardly even talks about it anymore. I barely remember it.
Cause it never happened ? Do you have any links of press releases or something, cause I never saw any server merges in WoW. WoW regularly does transfers from high population servers to low pop servers, but I never saw a merger and really doubt it.
Originally posted by Dingdongdang server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
My first answer = LOL to you.
Then there is nothing better than gathering players together.
Turbine did this with DDO and it was smart.
It is because of posts like yours that compagnies are afraid to do so even it's best for everyone.
Take any MMO they all have "ghost" servers it is just impossible not to ; unless the choice of the server is imposed by the publisher.
Next time, before making such a post think of the future. Maybe in not long from now you wish you'd have free transfers instead of being obliged to reroll to more populated servers.
Once again I fully approve server merge, for free, in any MMO. The publishers have my thanks.
When people quote the high/high in middle september and compare them to medium/medium now and say the game is dying then its because they dont know their facts.
Mythic started out with a very low population cap on the servers to spread out people and to prevent a too fast growth of the population on one side on the servers.
Today the servers have 3 times the population cap of what they had in the first week or two. Meaning that a full server on september 23 will now show as a low to medium server with the same number of people playing on it.
If you take a look inside the game then there is NO drop in population in the past month. The difference is that you see almost no one out in the PvE areas. No one will do the boring PvE then its much much more efficient and fun to lvl you toon via RvR and Scenarios.
Keeps are changing sides every hour now, zones are locked down as a part of the overall campaign and things are actually working!
Now its time to see if mythic can do something about the things that are still not so good in the game, but since its some of the same things that never ever got fixed in daoc then I am not THAT hopeful about it.
They have an ilogical fear of ranged procs and a severe hatred of anything that wields a bow, pets are a joke and there is always some game element that completely breaks the fun for a majority of players when used, in this case the rift/magnet, in daoc it was shrooms.
"You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."
its ignorant to claim that theres no drop in the pop, im guessing they lost 50%, but it sure aint dying
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
server merges = death 6 weeks in and they arent adding servers...they arent even stable, they are killing almost 22 servers. Remember that article from Massively? during the launch he said WaR will settle around 250k ish subs. Most war fanbois laughed and said OMG WAR WILL GET 2 million subs easy !
lol...just lol.... see ya later WaR no more medicore MMO's please. the Majority have spoken. and yes we are the majority.. 750k accounts created 250k playing WaR Equals 500k people (majority) that think WaR is nothing special.
o a game doing what everyone asks is dying? EVERYONE was asking for merges. You did not see this coming? Once they started uping the serve sizes this was happening. They botched, big deal. Its what they do after that makes a diffrence. Everygame screws up, its how they fix it and how fast.
If you think WOW never screwed up your messed up. WOW was good at covering its tracks. Very good, and thats why they are where there at. Give WAR time and it will grow like a newborn. Bigger, Stronger. Maybe not as big as its brother MMO WOW, but will grow overtime.
(I waited so long to post here because of this original poster, 1 post and its this crap. A loser none the less, but others had input, so I thought I would take a stab since the OP came on his real guy somewhere in this thread)
Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality. However, when they say something like "WAR has 800K current subs" you can be damn sure that it's literally true. Make any arguments you like using using troll or fanboy assmath, X-fire numbers, words from angels holding glowing swords, or whatever...it doesn't matter. The game currently has 800K subs. Will it have 800K subs at the end of the Novermber? I seriously doubt it. But for the moment, the fact of the matter is 800K subs. Throw a party or cry yourself to sleep, depending on how that makes you feel.
"Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality"
thank you. Its comical how people try to say these press releases are lies. This is a PUBLIC COMPANY. They cant lie to their shareholders, they cant lie to the public -- they are required by LAW to tell the truth. Do any of you even own stock or at the very least read MSN money -- I mean whatever, if EA (a publicly traded) company says it has 800k subs -- then at the time the statement was made thats what it has -- PERIOD. Unless they are pulling an ENRON, otherwise its TRUE.
Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality. However, when they say something like "WAR has 800K current subs" you can be damn sure that it's literally true. Make any arguments you like using using troll or fanboy assmath, X-fire numbers, words from angels holding glowing swords, or whatever...it doesn't matter. The game currently has 800K subs. Will it have 800K subs at the end of the Novermber? I seriously doubt it. But for the moment, the fact of the matter is 800K subs. Throw a party or cry yourself to sleep, depending on how that makes you feel.
"Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality"
thank you. Its comical how people try to say these press releases are lies. This is a PUBLIC COMPANY. They cant lie to their shareholders, they cant lie to the public -- they are required by LAW to tell the truth. Do any of you even own stock or at the very least read MSN money -- I mean whatever, if EA (a publicly traded) company says it has 800k subs -- then at the time the statement was made thats what it has -- PERIOD. Unless they are pulling an ENRON, otherwise its TRUE.
The thing is, they never said 'subscribers'.. they keep using terms like 'accounts created'.. which includes people who preordered the game, created an account, played head start, and then never bought the box and had their account closed when the grace period ended.
It takes 5 mins of loggin into a med/med server to see that 'if' they raised the caps, it wasn't by much. Med/Med servers are dead in almost every tier. There certainly is not a noticable difference between a med/med server at launch as their is of a med/med server now.
Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality. However, when they say something like "WAR has 800K current subs" you can be damn sure that it's literally true. Make any arguments you like using using troll or fanboy assmath, X-fire numbers, words from angels holding glowing swords, or whatever...it doesn't matter. The game currently has 800K subs. Will it have 800K subs at the end of the Novermber? I seriously doubt it. But for the moment, the fact of the matter is 800K subs. Throw a party or cry yourself to sleep, depending on how that makes you feel.
"Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality"
thank you. Its comical how people try to say these press releases are lies. This is a PUBLIC COMPANY. They cant lie to their shareholders, they cant lie to the public -- they are required by LAW to tell the truth. Do any of you even own stock or at the very least read MSN money -- I mean whatever, if EA (a publicly traded) company says it has 800k subs -- then at the time the statement was made thats what it has -- PERIOD. Unless they are pulling an ENRON, otherwise its TRUE.
The thing is, they never said 'subscribers'.. they keep using terms like 'accounts created'.. which includes people who preordered the game, created an account, played head start, and then never bought the box and had their account closed when the grace period ended.
It takes 5 mins of loggin into a med/med server to see that 'if' they raised the caps, it wasn't by much. Med/Med servers are dead in almost every tier. There certainly is not a noticable difference between a med/med server at launch as their is of a med/med server now.
Howdy MMOers in arms. I am over from the AoC forum just to let you know that FC was doing the same thing. They never wanted to give up that subscribernumber since 14th of Aug when they reported about 400000 subs. I think we need to send a message to management in Mythic, FC and other devcompanys that there is nothing to gain for them to be funny about these numbers. We all know they do this to make them appear bigger than they really are. But as we all know we look straight through their scam. 800000 acccounts for WAR could be as little as 250 000 subs for all we know. Mythic must give the real number, which is subnumbers.
[quote]War made the mistake of opening way too many servers at release and now are going to pay the price of some bad publicity to get things back on track. But in no way does this mean that War is bad, it just means the administrators botched it.[/quote]
That would be good if it was the end of it, but it's not.
They aren't merging the servers. They are allowing voluntary transfers from some low pop servers to a few medium population servers.
They have publically said that an actual server merge is the first sign a game is dying, so I guess they feel they can't do it now that they said it. So they're doing this half-assed voluntary thing.
Not only will it be really messy, but it doesn't address the fact that people were complaining on "high-population" servers that "high population" doesn't include enough people to play the game.
Bottomline:
If they did forced server merges to maybe 15 servers instead of going from 60 - 40, maybe they would have a chance at saving the game.
But they will not really own up to their mistake. I guess they think it's preventing them from looking bad, but it's actually making them not only look bad but lose customers.
I checked the servers today and there were more low pop servers than med pop servers by a ratio of about 4/1 (4 low pops for every 1 med pop). This game is built around pvp, so you NEED a high population for it to even work.
Their response is rediculous.
I have to agree with the OP that WAR may be the fastest dying MMO's of all time, not because the game is bad (in fact, despite the fact that is fundamently awesome, in potential at least), but because it's obvious nobody at Mythic is taking charge of anything, and every fix is the result of a committee meeting where a fix has already been processed through about 10 comprimises.
Originally posted by BearShammy Howdy MMOers in arms. I am over from the AoC forum just to let you know that FC was doing the same thing. They never wanted to give up that subscribernumber since 14th of Aug when they reported about 400000 subs. I think we need to send a message to management in Mythic, FC and other devcompanys that there is nothing to gain for them to be funny about these numbers. We all know they do this to make them appear bigger than they really are. But as we all know we look straight through their scam. 800000 acccounts for WAR could be as little as 250 000 subs for all we know. Mythic must give the real number, which is subnumbers.
Most companies don't really dare that. Turbine didn't protest when the newspapers thought LOTRO had a to high numer either... But yes, an honest number would make things easier, now we just get speculations.
It is a higher chanse they lose players because of speculations is getting to far down that then the players see the actual numbers. And the players of games as WAR, AoC and LOTRO sure have noticed that there are fewer players around, if we don't quit because of that, some honesty won't make us quit either. Player who wants the biggest game are still playing Wow anyways.
Wow some slant eyed POS posted war was dead lol. Are we angry you cant get a rice ball beacause they banned your parents gold farming triad? Go play some Star Craft shifty eye.
Can you please explain the rubbish that you just post in relation to what the main topic is all about, and I hope the moderator does something with regards to your offensive racist remarks.
Server merges are a good thing-when you start off in WoW blizzard gives you a low populated server without you knowing.Then once you relise that its a dead server you want to go to a medium world.And here comes the (you got to pay for that) part.
Even so the RvR in WAR will one day get enough people but still where is to WoW population-we might not see anyone switching for a long while.That is because of WoTLK.
When people quote the high/high in middle september and compare them to medium/medium now and say the game is dying then its because they dont know their facts. Mythic started out with a very low population cap on the servers to spread out people and to prevent a too fast growth of the population on one side on the servers. Today the servers have 3 times the population cap of what they had in the first week or two. Meaning that a full server on september 23 will now show as a low to medium server with the same number of people playing on it. If you take a look inside the game then there is NO drop in population in the past month. The difference is that you see almost no one out in the PvE areas. No one will do the boring PvE then its much much more efficient and fun to lvl you toon via RvR and Scenarios. Keeps are changing sides every hour now, zones are locked down as a part of the overall campaign and things are actually working! Now its time to see if mythic can do something about the things that are still not so good in the game, but since its some of the same things that never ever got fixed in daoc then I am not THAT hopeful about it. They have an ilogical fear of ranged procs and a severe hatred of anything that wields a bow, pets are a joke and there is always some game element that completely breaks the fun for a majority of players when used, in this case the rift/magnet, in daoc it was shrooms.
Since you claim no one knows their facts so will you please share your fact finding research with the rest of us? Where did you get their knowledge that server population caps are 3 times higher now?
Your claim is that populations are not in trouble and it is just the result of Mythic playing with server capacity is incorrect.
Fact: Mythic upped server capacity since launch
Assumption: This is the reason servers "appear" lower.
On one hand Mythic is claiming sales in somewhere in the area of 1.2-1.5 million boxes and also 800k acocunts/subscribers/players [I don't know which]. They say they changed the servers population caps a few times which allows people to assume that is the reason for the population decline listed on the server selection screen.
All that seems reasonsable until you get to the server mergers. So many empty servers being merged into so few tells the truth. It doesn't matter that they are voluntary moves or anything about the wording of how it is being done. There are to many empty servers for a game that is claiming this much success.
I can tell you that the decline in server selection screen loads isn't due to some change by mythic, because it happened over the course of weeks. Yes I did witness it while looking for a potential server to transfer to. It wasn't something that declined once or twice as mythic upped the population caps. It was a steady decline.
On one hand Mythic is claiming huge success with Warhammer. On the other hand they are condensing populations on about 40% of the servers and there is a general buzz from posters about "empty servers" and "nothing to hold me in game".
I'm not saying the game is dead, but to say it hasn't suffered in the last month is just denial.
First of all, the MMO genre has exploded in recent years, not only with the amount of them being created but with the amount of people who are becoming interested in them and paying to play.
When a new hyped MMO is released we are still expecting to see huge success like that seen in WoW (which ironically wasnt that successful at the start). Bareing in mind WoW had huge marketing, on television, in magazines and eventualy celebirity endorsement. Most MMOs never make it past interenet marketing and most hype comes from forums of people stating how excellent its going to be and how great the beta is and this only ever comes from games/names/institutions with a reputation, for example WAR.
As i was saying with the explosion of the MMO market, we cant expect to see huge success in MMOs anymore because there is too many of them. Everyone has their favourtie MMO, but people cant justify or afford paying for more than one or two MMOs at a time so people will try betas because they like the genre of MMOs, it doesnt mean that they will eventually become subscribers.
Betas have become a way of playing another game, for free, for a short time maybe just to take a break from their current MMO, see what else is on the market - but will most likely return to the game they originally played. Generally we can see people move from one MMO to another permanently when the game they used to play has started to loose its population and its original attraction.
Due to the amount now on the market and the amount of players/customers, beta's are not a representable validation of future populations.
We also cant ignore the increasing amount of F2PMMO on the market. Alot of MMO fans now play F2PMMO because either they are under 16 or because they dont play enough to justify a subscription or they like the game and its an added bonus its free. So we have to expect F2PMMO players to play betas and leave because they dont want to pay a subscription.
In the current climate 250,000 - 500,000 subscribers is quite a respectable amount - WAR is not a dieing MMO.
Doolallydingdong or whatever your name is - you proved you know absolutly nothing. One reason for so many servers at the beggining is to make sure with the original huge numbers can be coped with so everyone can enjoy the game and make sure people who intend to stay will stay. Server mergers have to be expected in any MMO and if anything its making sure the customer has the best experience. So doolally you are completely wrong!
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Thx for creating your account to do one thing.... one trolling post!!!!.....
You're right, server merges are death. I mean WoW merged servers a few years ago, and we all can see how dead it is now, I mean no one hardly even talks about it anymore. I barely remember it.
Cause it never happened ? Do you have any links of press releases or something, cause I never saw any server merges in WoW. WoW regularly does transfers from high population servers to low pop servers, but I never saw a merger and really doubt it.
My first answer = LOL to you.
Then there is nothing better than gathering players together.
Turbine did this with DDO and it was smart.
It is because of posts like yours that compagnies are afraid to do so even it's best for everyone.
Take any MMO they all have "ghost" servers it is just impossible not to ; unless the choice of the server is imposed by the publisher.
Next time, before making such a post think of the future. Maybe in not long from now you wish you'd have free transfers instead of being obliged to reroll to more populated servers.
Once again I fully approve server merge, for free, in any MMO. The publishers have my thanks.
When people quote the high/high in middle september and compare them to medium/medium now and say the game is dying then its because they dont know their facts.
Mythic started out with a very low population cap on the servers to spread out people and to prevent a too fast growth of the population on one side on the servers.
Today the servers have 3 times the population cap of what they had in the first week or two. Meaning that a full server on september 23 will now show as a low to medium server with the same number of people playing on it.
If you take a look inside the game then there is NO drop in population in the past month. The difference is that you see almost no one out in the PvE areas. No one will do the boring PvE then its much much more efficient and fun to lvl you toon via RvR and Scenarios.
Keeps are changing sides every hour now, zones are locked down as a part of the overall campaign and things are actually working!
Now its time to see if mythic can do something about the things that are still not so good in the game, but since its some of the same things that never ever got fixed in daoc then I am not THAT hopeful about it.
They have an ilogical fear of ranged procs and a severe hatred of anything that wields a bow, pets are a joke and there is always some game element that completely breaks the fun for a majority of players when used, in this case the rift/magnet, in daoc it was shrooms.
"You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."
its ignorant to claim that theres no drop in the pop, im guessing they lost 50%, but it sure aint dying
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
o a game doing what everyone asks is dying? EVERYONE was asking for merges. You did not see this coming? Once they started uping the serve sizes this was happening. They botched, big deal. Its what they do after that makes a diffrence. Everygame screws up, its how they fix it and how fast.
If you think WOW never screwed up your messed up. WOW was good at covering its tracks. Very good, and thats why they are where there at. Give WAR time and it will grow like a newborn. Bigger, Stronger. Maybe not as big as its brother MMO WOW, but will grow overtime.
(I waited so long to post here because of this original poster, 1 post and its this crap. A loser none the less, but others had input, so I thought I would take a stab since the OP came on his real guy somewhere in this thread)
Enjoy : )
"Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality"
thank you. Its comical how people try to say these press releases are lies. This is a PUBLIC COMPANY. They cant lie to their shareholders, they cant lie to the public -- they are required by LAW to tell the truth. Do any of you even own stock or at the very least read MSN money -- I mean whatever, if EA (a publicly traded) company says it has 800k subs -- then at the time the statement was made thats what it has -- PERIOD. Unless they are pulling an ENRON, otherwise its TRUE.
"Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality"
thank you. Its comical how people try to say these press releases are lies. This is a PUBLIC COMPANY. They cant lie to their shareholders, they cant lie to the public -- they are required by LAW to tell the truth. Do any of you even own stock or at the very least read MSN money -- I mean whatever, if EA (a publicly traded) company says it has 800k subs -- then at the time the statement was made thats what it has -- PERIOD. Unless they are pulling an ENRON, otherwise its TRUE.
The thing is, they never said 'subscribers'.. they keep using terms like 'accounts created'.. which includes people who preordered the game, created an account, played head start, and then never bought the box and had their account closed when the grace period ended.
It takes 5 mins of loggin into a med/med server to see that 'if' they raised the caps, it wasn't by much. Med/Med servers are dead in almost every tier. There certainly is not a noticable difference between a med/med server at launch as their is of a med/med server now.
"Guys, it's a financial report. EA can't make shit up on their investor statements. They can state things in a way that makes the overall picture of the company's fortunes look better than they might be in reality"
thank you. Its comical how people try to say these press releases are lies. This is a PUBLIC COMPANY. They cant lie to their shareholders, they cant lie to the public -- they are required by LAW to tell the truth. Do any of you even own stock or at the very least read MSN money -- I mean whatever, if EA (a publicly traded) company says it has 800k subs -- then at the time the statement was made thats what it has -- PERIOD. Unless they are pulling an ENRON, otherwise its TRUE.
The thing is, they never said 'subscribers'.. they keep using terms like 'accounts created'.. which includes people who preordered the game, created an account, played head start, and then never bought the box and had their account closed when the grace period ended.
It takes 5 mins of loggin into a med/med server to see that 'if' they raised the caps, it wasn't by much. Med/Med servers are dead in almost every tier. There certainly is not a noticable difference between a med/med server at launch as their is of a med/med server now.
Howdy MMOers in arms. I am over from the AoC forum just to let you know that FC was doing the same thing. They never wanted to give up that subscribernumber since 14th of Aug when they reported about 400000 subs. I think we need to send a message to management in Mythic, FC and other devcompanys that there is nothing to gain for them to be funny about these numbers. We all know they do this to make them appear bigger than they really are. But as we all know we look straight through their scam. 800000 acccounts for WAR could be as little as 250 000 subs for all we know. Mythic must give the real number, which is subnumbers.
[quote]War made the mistake of opening way too many servers at release and now are going to pay the price of some bad publicity to get things back on track. But in no way does this mean that War is bad, it just means the administrators botched it.[/quote]
That would be good if it was the end of it, but it's not.
They aren't merging the servers. They are allowing voluntary transfers from some low pop servers to a few medium population servers.
They have publically said that an actual server merge is the first sign a game is dying, so I guess they feel they can't do it now that they said it. So they're doing this half-assed voluntary thing.
Not only will it be really messy, but it doesn't address the fact that people were complaining on "high-population" servers that "high population" doesn't include enough people to play the game.
Bottomline:
If they did forced server merges to maybe 15 servers instead of going from 60 - 40, maybe they would have a chance at saving the game.
But they will not really own up to their mistake. I guess they think it's preventing them from looking bad, but it's actually making them not only look bad but lose customers.
I checked the servers today and there were more low pop servers than med pop servers by a ratio of about 4/1 (4 low pops for every 1 med pop). This game is built around pvp, so you NEED a high population for it to even work.
Their response is rediculous.
I have to agree with the OP that WAR may be the fastest dying MMO's of all time, not because the game is bad (in fact, despite the fact that is fundamently awesome, in potential at least), but because it's obvious nobody at Mythic is taking charge of anything, and every fix is the result of a committee meeting where a fix has already been processed through about 10 comprimises.
Most companies don't really dare that. Turbine didn't protest when the newspapers thought LOTRO had a to high numer either... But yes, an honest number would make things easier, now we just get speculations.
It is a higher chanse they lose players because of speculations is getting to far down that then the players see the actual numbers. And the players of games as WAR, AoC and LOTRO sure have noticed that there are fewer players around, if we don't quit because of that, some honesty won't make us quit either. Player who wants the biggest game are still playing Wow anyways.
Can you please explain the rubbish that you just post in relation to what the main topic is all about, and I hope the moderator does something with regards to your offensive racist remarks.
Server merges are a good thing-when you start off in WoW blizzard gives you a low populated server without you knowing.Then once you relise that its a dead server you want to go to a medium world.And here comes the (you got to pay for that) part.
Even so the RvR in WAR will one day get enough people but still where is to WoW population-we might not see anyone switching for a long while.That is because of WoTLK.
Since you claim no one knows their facts so will you please share your fact finding research with the rest of us? Where did you get their knowledge that server population caps are 3 times higher now?
Your claim is that populations are not in trouble and it is just the result of Mythic playing with server capacity is incorrect.
Fact: Mythic upped server capacity since launch
Assumption: This is the reason servers "appear" lower.
On one hand Mythic is claiming sales in somewhere in the area of 1.2-1.5 million boxes and also 800k acocunts/subscribers/players [I don't know which]. They say they changed the servers population caps a few times which allows people to assume that is the reason for the population decline listed on the server selection screen.
All that seems reasonsable until you get to the server mergers. So many empty servers being merged into so few tells the truth. It doesn't matter that they are voluntary moves or anything about the wording of how it is being done. There are to many empty servers for a game that is claiming this much success.
I can tell you that the decline in server selection screen loads isn't due to some change by mythic, because it happened over the course of weeks. Yes I did witness it while looking for a potential server to transfer to. It wasn't something that declined once or twice as mythic upped the population caps. It was a steady decline.
On one hand Mythic is claiming huge success with Warhammer. On the other hand they are condensing populations on about 40% of the servers and there is a general buzz from posters about "empty servers" and "nothing to hold me in game".
I'm not saying the game is dead, but to say it hasn't suffered in the last month is just denial.
First of all, the MMO genre has exploded in recent years, not only with the amount of them being created but with the amount of people who are becoming interested in them and paying to play.
When a new hyped MMO is released we are still expecting to see huge success like that seen in WoW (which ironically wasnt that successful at the start). Bareing in mind WoW had huge marketing, on television, in magazines and eventualy celebirity endorsement. Most MMOs never make it past interenet marketing and most hype comes from forums of people stating how excellent its going to be and how great the beta is and this only ever comes from games/names/institutions with a reputation, for example WAR.
As i was saying with the explosion of the MMO market, we cant expect to see huge success in MMOs anymore because there is too many of them. Everyone has their favourtie MMO, but people cant justify or afford paying for more than one or two MMOs at a time so people will try betas because they like the genre of MMOs, it doesnt mean that they will eventually become subscribers.
Betas have become a way of playing another game, for free, for a short time maybe just to take a break from their current MMO, see what else is on the market - but will most likely return to the game they originally played. Generally we can see people move from one MMO to another permanently when the game they used to play has started to loose its population and its original attraction.
Due to the amount now on the market and the amount of players/customers, beta's are not a representable validation of future populations.
We also cant ignore the increasing amount of F2PMMO on the market. Alot of MMO fans now play F2PMMO because either they are under 16 or because they dont play enough to justify a subscription or they like the game and its an added bonus its free. So we have to expect F2PMMO players to play betas and leave because they dont want to pay a subscription.
In the current climate 250,000 - 500,000 subscribers is quite a respectable amount - WAR is not a dieing MMO.
Doolallydingdong or whatever your name is - you proved you know absolutly nothing. One reason for so many servers at the beggining is to make sure with the original huge numbers can be coped with so everyone can enjoy the game and make sure people who intend to stay will stay. Server mergers have to be expected in any MMO and if anything its making sure the customer has the best experience. So doolally you are completely wrong!