This is why the game will never succeed. It will not be a niche game, and it will never have a chance. That is if it actually gets released. While I will agree with anyone stating the "carebear" mentality of todays games, fact is that the "carebear" gaming is what sells. Sad but true. Full loot PvP games will never be self-sustaining.
maybe yous houlkd count how many pre trammel private servers theres is an add up all the users
Ahh, can't quite figure out what you're trying to get across. Sober up and get back to me.
and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Guild-peen.
My guilds been together for over 10 years, I think deserves a modicum of respect.
don't care if your guild was formed by Abe Lincoln. When you make statements like you did, you only make your guild look bad for having you as a member.
This is why the game will never succeed. It will not be a niche game, and it will never have a chance. That is if it actually gets released. While I will agree with anyone stating the "carebear" mentality of todays games, fact is that the "carebear" gaming is what sells. Sad but true. Full loot PvP games will never be self-sustaining.
maybe yous houlkd count how many pre trammel private servers theres is an add up all the users
Ahh, can't quite figure out what you're trying to get across. Sober up and get back to me.
and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Guild-peen.
My guilds been together for over 10 years, I think deserves a modicum of respect.
don't care if your guild was formed by Abe Lincoln. When you make statements like you did, you only make your guild look bad for having you as a member.
Sorry to burst your bubble hoss, my guild is a lotta heavy drinkin, bad attitude havin aussies, and hardass marines stationed in japan they revel in trashtalk, frankly, Im one of the tame ones by comparison. Peddle your wares somewhere else Captain Holier than Thou.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it. Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer. Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays. Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up. In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone "Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole." "3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?" "F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies" I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
its goign ot be funny when that new players kicks and older players arse
Humm if one brand new (noob) player can kick 3 other experienced players arses (ie 3v1) then I'd have to say the games broke.
I dare to say I speak for more than me saying this.
We're not against anyone with a normal attitude, belive this game will come or not, be great or bad. It's how you choose to put out your words.
You people who don't want this game to be a success nor even launch sitting here trying to be clever with your doom prophet propaganda. Givin us litle options in how we shall communicate with you.
We're here to discuss the game, prospects of the game and of course alot of speculations due to the informative source we've got. But we'll want this game to be something more than the todays standard. Is it so hard to understand? Seems so.
Look at the threads here, the posts. There are more 'trolls' than fans here. And I guess those 'Trolls' have got what they want, a ruined community site. Not only Darkfall but overall on this site.
It is you, the people with so negative attitude that ruin this site. And due to the genre of the site it is quite obvious what kind of people the trolls are. Real nerds using the internet anonymity to give them the option to be 'Cool' without getting their ass kicked or lunchmoney stolen.
But we've now what's awaits you when you walk outside the door, so we've get our revenge laughing at your real life situation.
______________________________ The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess. And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic' and send them to the Special Olympus.
I dare to say I speak for more than me saying this. We're not against anyone with a normal attitude, belive this game will come or not, be great or bad. It's how you choose to put out your words. You people who don't want this game to be a success nor even launch sitting here trying to be clever with your doom prophet propaganda. Givin us litle options in how we shall communicate with you. We're here to discuss the game, prospects of the game and of course alot of speculations due to the informative source we've got. But we'll want this game to be something more than the todays standard. Is it so hard to understand? Seems so. Look at the threads here, the posts. There are more 'trolls' than fans here. And I guess those 'Trolls' have got what they want, a ruined community site. Not only Darkfall but overall on this site. It is you, the people with so negative attitude that ruin this site. And due to the genre of the site it is quite obvious what kind of people the trolls are. Real nerds using the internet anonymity to give them the option to be 'Cool' without getting their ass kicked or lunchmoney stolen. But we've now what's awaits you when you walk outside the door, so we've get our revenge laughing at your real life situation.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
Yeah but the thing is.... this game is supposed to be skill based not gear based so frankly what would be looted would be bog standard armour and weaponry..oh and all your gold if your dumb enough to carry it heh....
It works both ways. If people here say they're anticipating the game, and looking forward to all of the features in it when it realeses, they're stigmitized as a darkfall fanboi/cultist blah blah blah. there's too much energy and angst in these forums over far too little information. The community would be better as a whole if this forum/site never existed.
I dare to say I speak for more than me saying this. We're not against anyone with a normal attitude, belive this game will come or not, be great or bad. It's how you choose to put out your words. You people who don't want this game to be a success nor even launch sitting here trying to be clever with your doom prophet propaganda. Givin us litle options in how we shall communicate with you. We're here to discuss the game, prospects of the game and of course alot of speculations due to the informative source we've got. But we'll want this game to be something more than the todays standard. Is it so hard to understand? Seems so. Look at the threads here, the posts. There are more 'trolls' than fans here. And I guess those 'Trolls' have got what they want, a ruined community site. Not only Darkfall but overall on this site. It is you, the people with so negative attitude that ruin this site. And due to the genre of the site it is quite obvious what kind of people the trolls are. Real nerds using the internet anonymity to give them the option to be 'Cool' without getting their ass kicked or lunchmoney stolen. But we've now what's awaits you when you walk outside the door, so we've get our revenge laughing at your real life situation.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you.
'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon.
DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of...
Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker.
I dare to say I speak for more than me saying this. We're not against anyone with a normal attitude, belive this game will come or not, be great or bad. It's how you choose to put out your words. You people who don't want this game to be a success nor even launch sitting here trying to be clever with your doom prophet propaganda. Givin us litle options in how we shall communicate with you. We're here to discuss the game, prospects of the game and of course alot of speculations due to the informative source we've got. But we'll want this game to be something more than the todays standard. Is it so hard to understand? Seems so. Look at the threads here, the posts. There are more 'trolls' than fans here. And I guess those 'Trolls' have got what they want, a ruined community site. Not only Darkfall but overall on this site. It is you, the people with so negative attitude that ruin this site. And due to the genre of the site it is quite obvious what kind of people the trolls are. Real nerds using the internet anonymity to give them the option to be 'Cool' without getting their ass kicked or lunchmoney stolen. But we've now what's awaits you when you walk outside the door, so we've get our revenge laughing at your real life situation.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you.
'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon.
DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of...
Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker.
Just my views and most probably not urs.
LOL @ people who still try to argue there is no proof of this game. Hate to break it to you pal, but no DF fans are hoping and praying that this game is real. We know its real..perhaps you should research a game before you talk about it. Oh im sorry, unless you are one of those guys who think all the people at the convention in which DF was shown in real time were all CGI humans and lolz it was made in a graphics engine.
Also...this game will take people from WoW, WAR, AoC. It certainly wont cripple any of them...but people will be changing if it releases well.
I can personally assure you that if it releases well, that about 200-300 gamers will be leaving WoW and WAR to play it. That is just from guilds im associated with that are planning to move to DF if it releases smoothly. There are LOTS of people keeping their eye on DF.
I still cant believe people are trying to argue that DF isnt real. Sorry but that arguement made you internet cool about 6 months ago....now it just makes you look foolish.
Notice i didnt call you a troll....just extremely misinformed in an almost comical way.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you. 'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon. DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of... Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker. Just my views and most probably not urs.
No proof ? you have got to be kidding , really . Even ignoring everything else , the ADW video should be more than enough ( im sure everyone in greece/athens are in on this huge internet prank), you can clearly see the game running on their pc's and them playing it , no matter what it was or what you think of it , it was a game in some form .
Stop bringing up the lack of this or the lack of that it's a dead horse, they dont do things like other mmorpg dev teams do it , and its about time someone does something different couse the same ole same ole hasnt worked in many years .
Only attracting runescape fans ? Again your kidding right ? Uo , Sb , AC , Aoc , War , Wow and many many many others all have huge pvp fans , every new mmorpg that comes out one of the first things people ask , is there pvp.
Ya sure DF appeals to a niche market in most cases , but this isnt 1999 when 250k-500k is a huge hit like todays 10mill subs in wow and 20k is niche . There has to be at least 20+ million mmorpg players these days , so ya a niche market is 500k EASY.
Just becouse you loose a fight to another pvp'r and get looted doesnt mean you are useless , you grab a new set of gear ( of which you proly have 3 sets crafted or looted just waiting) and get back out there , even naked your not totally useless as long as you have a weapon . Who only has one SINGLE set of gear anyway ? Even in games where your stuff is with you forever i usualy had 3-5 sets of gear.
Now , the only thing left is to see how well the game actually turns out when it does eventualy launch , and if its good enough to keep its "niche" market. We are still yet to see this and untill then everything is up in the air.
Im not saying DF will be a hit or even work , but a game like it that has every Df offerers and delivers it in a good playable form will be a hit in todays market thats overcrouded with games that are all basicly the same in most ways.
Im not a huge fan of Darkfall , im a huge fan of any game that can offer what DFO has on paper, doesnt matter what game as long as it delivers . Ofcourse if a game doesnt follow the same broken pattern of development as the last seveal years of half finished mmorpgs did , its got to be making it all up.
I dare to say I speak for more than me saying this. We're not against anyone with a normal attitude, belive this game will come or not, be great or bad. It's how you choose to put out your words. You people who don't want this game to be a success nor even launch sitting here trying to be clever with your doom prophet propaganda. Givin us litle options in how we shall communicate with you. We're here to discuss the game, prospects of the game and of course alot of speculations due to the informative source we've got. But we'll want this game to be something more than the todays standard. Is it so hard to understand? Seems so. Look at the threads here, the posts. There are more 'trolls' than fans here. And I guess those 'Trolls' have got what they want, a ruined community site. Not only Darkfall but overall on this site. It is you, the people with so negative attitude that ruin this site. And due to the genre of the site it is quite obvious what kind of people the trolls are. Real nerds using the internet anonymity to give them the option to be 'Cool' without getting their ass kicked or lunchmoney stolen. But we've now what's awaits you when you walk outside the door, so we've get our revenge laughing at your real life situation.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you.
'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon.
DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of...
Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker.
Just my views and most probably not urs.
***************************** I have nothing clever to say.
I do find it funny, like a set of greyhounds after a rabbit lmao.
Actual proof, lets cut this down on what I mean and trust as real proof, when I start seeing reviews then I might think its actually coming out when they say it is, how many dates have they said in the past? Ok fair play I forgot they had the whole games convention and it was shown there, fair play, I don't really watch the df scene to much as I'm not really interested in the game, just find it funny how defencive you guys are over the game.
I could care less about the whole full loot thing, I'm definatly not 'scared' of it lmao, I just don't see the fun in ganking some guy and taking their loot, I wouldn't do it in real life and I wouldn't do it in a game, I don't see whats fun about it. I'm a gamer, I love games of all shapes and sizes and probably why I will become part of the games industry, but I don't think I'd enjoy DF.
DF still has a major floor in my opinion, is there a real purpose for your character to be there, if I made a char would it make a difference and would it have a purpose and be missed if the char wasn't there? In RF online you have the Chip war battles that the whole race fights in for mining time to eran money, thats a purpose, not many mmorpgs miss this feature and I haven't read the DF has it either. I find this stupid in all mmorpgs, its one thing that will keep you addicted to a game, in a single player rpg you can change the world around you, no you can't really do this in a mmorpg but you should at least have a purpose in it.
My gaming history, starts with the atari onwards to today, I've played so many games its not funny, and many many many mmorpgs. Oh and yes AoC, WAR etc is pvp but not ffa loot, big difference in pvp, so i don't know where you can get those numbers from...
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you. 'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon. DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of... Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker. Just my views and most probably not urs.
No proof ? you have got to be kidding , really . Even ignoring everything else , the ADW video should be more than enough ( im sure everyone in greece/athens are in on this huge internet prank), you can clearly see the game running on their pc's and them playing it , no matter what it was or what you think of it , it was a game in some form .
Stop bringing up the lack of this or the lack of that it's a dead horse, they dont do things like other mmorpg dev teams do it , and its about time someone does something different couse the same ole same ole hasnt worked in many years .
Only attracting runescape fans ? Again your kidding right ? Uo , Sb , AC , Aoc , War , Wow and many many many others all have huge pvp fans , every new mmorpg that comes out one of the first things people ask , is there pvp.
Ya sure DF appeals to a niche market in most cases , but this isnt 1999 when 250k-500k is a huge hit like todays 10mill subs in wow and 20k is niche . There has to be at least 20+ million mmorpg players these days , so ya a niche market is 500k EASY.
Just becouse you loose a fight to another pvp'r and get looted doesnt mean you are useless , you grab a new set of gear ( of which you proly have 3 sets crafted or looted just waiting) and get back out there , even naked your not totally useless as long as you have a weapon . Who only has one SINGLE set of gear anyway ? Even in games where your stuff is with you forever i usualy had 3-5 sets of gear.
Now , the only thing left is to see how well the game actually turns out when it does eventualy launch , and if its good enough to keep its "niche" market. We are still yet to see this and untill then everything is up in the air.
Im not saying DF will be a hit or even work , but a game like it that has every Df offerers and delivers it in a good playable form will be a hit in todays market thats overcrouded with games that are all basicly the same in most ways.
Im not a huge fan of Darkfall , im a huge fan of any game that can offer what DFO has on paper, doesnt matter what game as long as it delivers . Ofcourse if a game doesnt follow the same broken pattern of development as the last seveal years of half finished mmorpgs did , its got to be making it all up.
this goes back to my point..
Darkfall is REAL. The game is being developed..
But ANY game that's been realised (a month before release??) has had a shit load of press. Has anyone seen Darkfall in PC gamer?
Okay.. so lets say that's not a creditable source.. we have GREEK coverage.. How many GREEKS play Video games? There were like 50 people at that convention.. for a game as huge as Darkfall is supposed to be.. Seems lacking.. eh?
So.. I'm say.. I guess I'm "against you" because DARKFALL is NOT coming out this year. It will be realised.. but.. NOT this year.
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Arcken,
Defending the game again? Well SIR , you need not it is coming out! I will see you on the battlefield!
maybe yous houlkd count how many pre trammel private servers theres is an add up all the users
Ahh, can't quite figure out what you're trying to get across. Sober up and get back to me.
and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Guild-peen.
My guilds been together for over 10 years, I think deserves a modicum of respect.
don't care if your guild was formed by Abe Lincoln. When you make statements like you did, you only make your guild look bad for having you as a member.
maybe yous houlkd count how many pre trammel private servers theres is an add up all the users
Ahh, can't quite figure out what you're trying to get across. Sober up and get back to me.
uo private servers pre trammel count the users
and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Guild-peen.
My guilds been together for over 10 years, I think deserves a modicum of respect.
don't care if your guild was formed by Abe Lincoln. When you make statements like you did, you only make your guild look bad for having you as a member.
Sorry to burst your bubble hoss, my guild is a lotta heavy drinkin, bad attitude havin aussies, and hardass marines stationed in japan they revel in trashtalk, frankly, Im one of the tame ones by comparison. Peddle your wares somewhere else Captain Holier than Thou.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
its goign ot be funny when that new players kicks and older players arse
Humm if one brand new (noob) player can kick 3 other experienced players arses (ie 3v1) then I'd have to say the games broke.
I dare to say I speak for more than me saying this.
We're not against anyone with a normal attitude, belive this game will come or not, be great or bad. It's how you choose to put out your words.
You people who don't want this game to be a success nor even launch sitting here trying to be clever with your doom prophet propaganda. Givin us litle options in how we shall communicate with you.
We're here to discuss the game, prospects of the game and of course alot of speculations due to the informative source we've got. But we'll want this game to be something more than the todays standard. Is it so hard to understand? Seems so.
Look at the threads here, the posts. There are more 'trolls' than fans here. And I guess those 'Trolls' have got what they want, a ruined community site. Not only Darkfall but overall on this site.
It is you, the people with so negative attitude that ruin this site. And due to the genre of the site it is quite obvious what kind of people the trolls are. Real nerds using the internet anonymity to give them the option to be 'Cool' without getting their ass kicked or lunchmoney stolen.
But we've now what's awaits you when you walk outside the door, so we've get our revenge laughing at your real life situation.
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
Yeah but the thing is.... this game is supposed to be skill based not gear based so frankly what would be looted would be bog standard armour and weaponry..oh and all your gold if your dumb enough to carry it heh....
It works both ways. If people here say they're anticipating the game, and looking forward to all of the features in it when it realeses, they're stigmitized as a darkfall fanboi/cultist blah blah blah. there's too much energy and angst in these forums over far too little information. The community would be better as a whole if this forum/site never existed.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you.
'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon.
DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of...
Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker.
Just my views and most probably not urs.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you.
'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon.
DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of...
Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker.
Just my views and most probably not urs.
LOL @ people who still try to argue there is no proof of this game. Hate to break it to you pal, but no DF fans are hoping and praying that this game is real. We know its real..perhaps you should research a game before you talk about it. Oh im sorry, unless you are one of those guys who think all the people at the convention in which DF was shown in real time were all CGI humans and lolz it was made in a graphics engine.
Also...this game will take people from WoW, WAR, AoC. It certainly wont cripple any of them...but people will be changing if it releases well.
I can personally assure you that if it releases well, that about 200-300 gamers will be leaving WoW and WAR to play it. That is just from guilds im associated with that are planning to move to DF if it releases smoothly. There are LOTS of people keeping their eye on DF.
I still cant believe people are trying to argue that DF isnt real. Sorry but that arguement made you internet cool about 6 months ago....now it just makes you look foolish.
Notice i didnt call you a troll....just extremely misinformed in an almost comical way.
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No proof ? you have got to be kidding , really . Even ignoring everything else , the ADW video should be more than enough ( im sure everyone in greece/athens are in on this huge internet prank), you can clearly see the game running on their pc's and them playing it , no matter what it was or what you think of it , it was a game in some form .
Stop bringing up the lack of this or the lack of that it's a dead horse, they dont do things like other mmorpg dev teams do it , and its about time someone does something different couse the same ole same ole hasnt worked in many years .
Only attracting runescape fans ? Again your kidding right ? Uo , Sb , AC , Aoc , War , Wow and many many many others all have huge pvp fans , every new mmorpg that comes out one of the first things people ask , is there pvp.
Ya sure DF appeals to a niche market in most cases , but this isnt 1999 when 250k-500k is a huge hit like todays 10mill subs in wow and 20k is niche . There has to be at least 20+ million mmorpg players these days , so ya a niche market is 500k EASY.
Just becouse you loose a fight to another pvp'r and get looted doesnt mean you are useless , you grab a new set of gear ( of which you proly have 3 sets crafted or looted just waiting) and get back out there , even naked your not totally useless as long as you have a weapon . Who only has one SINGLE set of gear anyway ? Even in games where your stuff is with you forever i usualy had 3-5 sets of gear.
Now , the only thing left is to see how well the game actually turns out when it does eventualy launch , and if its good enough to keep its "niche" market. We are still yet to see this and untill then everything is up in the air.
Im not saying DF will be a hit or even work , but a game like it that has every Df offerers and delivers it in a good playable form will be a hit in todays market thats overcrouded with games that are all basicly the same in most ways.
Im not a huge fan of Darkfall , im a huge fan of any game that can offer what DFO has on paper, doesnt matter what game as long as it delivers . Ofcourse if a game doesnt follow the same broken pattern of development as the last seveal years of half finished mmorpgs did , its got to be making it all up.
Good post. I think a lot of it is down to jeously becuase their games have fallen by the way side and now after all the bullshit DF is on it`s way. They are gutted that it`s full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.
Many of them are going to try DF but are scared shitless about getting their uber items taken away from them. If DF was like another AOC/WAR then they would be happy but it`s not so they troll and moan about the devs not making a game to suit them.
They know they can`t go to the DF forums and ask the devs to change the game so they are here crying into there milk hoping that DF fails becuase if it does not then they know they have to play a game which exposes them for the lame ass mmorpg gamers they really are.
hmmm.... well how to start... thing is, you say 'DF id on it's way' still no actuall proof of that really is there? if there is and an actual person(not a dev) can confirm it is real then yey for you.
'They are gutted that it's full loot and a true PVP game that caters to the old type of gamer.' - I'd probably be classed an old type of gamer but I can't stand the idea of full loot, stupid idea, no point in working hard for loot that will just get stolen from you, will only attract the 'Runescape' kiddies in my opinon. Thing is I won't play this game, just find it funny how people are sooooo defencive over a game they hope and pray excists, ffs open your eyes, do you really see the proof, I've seen more proof for the star wars new mmorpg than for this and thats not coming out next month. I'm not trolling even tho some will say i am, what I am saying is please be sensible, the amount of information on the internet, the one video, the lack of reviews and the lack of real game play is worrying for a game thats meant to come out soon.
DF is for a very small niche market, it won't even take WoW's population, the only market I see that it would take is touch Runescapes as thats the closest thing to this, skill based, full pvp blah blah blah, so it will be very very limited in terms of customers, concidering most of runescapes audience doesn't want to download a game nor has the computer to run a graphically demanding game. So it doesn't look good for a mmorpg to become a success, when it will only appeal to a niche market. I know this game has got its followers, but how many will pay at the end of the day, when/if they ever get to play the game they have dreamt of...
Good luck to the game I just can't see it working, mmorpgs have changed, this is going back to the old model and I don't think there is much of a market for it now. I know if I spent say 5-10 hours a day playing a mmorpg I wouldn't want to lose my stuff and be basically useless after one fight with a ganker.
Just my views and most probably not urs.
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I have nothing clever to say.
I do find it funny, like a set of greyhounds after a rabbit lmao.
Actual proof, lets cut this down on what I mean and trust as real proof, when I start seeing reviews then I might think its actually coming out when they say it is, how many dates have they said in the past? Ok fair play I forgot they had the whole games convention and it was shown there, fair play, I don't really watch the df scene to much as I'm not really interested in the game, just find it funny how defencive you guys are over the game.
I could care less about the whole full loot thing, I'm definatly not 'scared' of it lmao, I just don't see the fun in ganking some guy and taking their loot, I wouldn't do it in real life and I wouldn't do it in a game, I don't see whats fun about it. I'm a gamer, I love games of all shapes and sizes and probably why I will become part of the games industry, but I don't think I'd enjoy DF.
DF still has a major floor in my opinion, is there a real purpose for your character to be there, if I made a char would it make a difference and would it have a purpose and be missed if the char wasn't there? In RF online you have the Chip war battles that the whole race fights in for mining time to eran money, thats a purpose, not many mmorpgs miss this feature and I haven't read the DF has it either. I find this stupid in all mmorpgs, its one thing that will keep you addicted to a game, in a single player rpg you can change the world around you, no you can't really do this in a mmorpg but you should at least have a purpose in it.
My gaming history, starts with the atari onwards to today, I've played so many games its not funny, and many many many mmorpgs. Oh and yes AoC, WAR etc is pvp but not ffa loot, big difference in pvp, so i don't know where you can get those numbers from...
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No proof ? you have got to be kidding , really . Even ignoring everything else , the ADW video should be more than enough ( im sure everyone in greece/athens are in on this huge internet prank), you can clearly see the game running on their pc's and them playing it , no matter what it was or what you think of it , it was a game in some form .
Stop bringing up the lack of this or the lack of that it's a dead horse, they dont do things like other mmorpg dev teams do it , and its about time someone does something different couse the same ole same ole hasnt worked in many years .
Only attracting runescape fans ? Again your kidding right ? Uo , Sb , AC , Aoc , War , Wow and many many many others all have huge pvp fans , every new mmorpg that comes out one of the first things people ask , is there pvp.
Ya sure DF appeals to a niche market in most cases , but this isnt 1999 when 250k-500k is a huge hit like todays 10mill subs in wow and 20k is niche . There has to be at least 20+ million mmorpg players these days , so ya a niche market is 500k EASY.
Just becouse you loose a fight to another pvp'r and get looted doesnt mean you are useless , you grab a new set of gear ( of which you proly have 3 sets crafted or looted just waiting) and get back out there , even naked your not totally useless as long as you have a weapon . Who only has one SINGLE set of gear anyway ? Even in games where your stuff is with you forever i usualy had 3-5 sets of gear.
Now , the only thing left is to see how well the game actually turns out when it does eventualy launch , and if its good enough to keep its "niche" market. We are still yet to see this and untill then everything is up in the air.
Im not saying DF will be a hit or even work , but a game like it that has every Df offerers and delivers it in a good playable form will be a hit in todays market thats overcrouded with games that are all basicly the same in most ways.
Im not a huge fan of Darkfall , im a huge fan of any game that can offer what DFO has on paper, doesnt matter what game as long as it delivers . Ofcourse if a game doesnt follow the same broken pattern of development as the last seveal years of half finished mmorpgs did , its got to be making it all up.
this goes back to my point..
Darkfall is REAL. The game is being developed..
But ANY game that's been realised (a month before release??) has had a shit load of press. Has anyone seen Darkfall in PC gamer?
Okay.. so lets say that's not a creditable source.. we have GREEK coverage.. How many GREEKS play Video games? There were like 50 people at that convention.. for a game as huge as Darkfall is supposed to be.. Seems lacking.. eh?
So.. I'm say.. I guess I'm "against you" because DARKFALL is NOT coming out this year. It will be realised.. but.. NOT this year.
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