If the develepors fail at making a good advert of their game what chance have they got to make a good game altogether?
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
If the develepors fail at making a good advert of their game what chance have they got to make a good game altogether?
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
If the develepors fail at making a good advert of their game what chance have they got to make a good game altogether?
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
If the develepors fail at making a good advert of their game what chance have they got to make a good game altogether?
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
Eh not really. Arent you that guy who got all pissy about the mmorpg forums btw and wrote a post saying how you were leaving or something?
Anyways the same arguement can be made whether you like it or not for the other side. "Only the people who are devoted bashers of DF didnt like it" etc etc.
Also get your eyes checked if you think that the gameplay video is what it will look like on release.
We have already seen a 2nd video in which the graphics are turned up a little higher and look obviously different/better.
Oh and "every single person" who wasnt a fanboy was disgusted?
Yea WRONG!
Why are you wrong?
Well because there were a few posts in this forum alone in which people who were new to the game or former skeptics who came here and said either "Wow that video was amazing and after looking into the game im really excited"
or
"well i was a skeptic before but this video changes everything, im excited now"
If you really want me to i will find links for you, but hopefully you wont be that trollish.
Sorry if you didnt like the video, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But the majority of people were satisfied or very happy with the video, and thats just how it is.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
If the develepors fail at making a good advert of their game what chance have they got to make a good game altogether?
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
Eh not really. Arent you that guy who got all pissy about the mmorpg forums btw and wrote a post saying how you were leaving or something?
Anyways the same arguement can be made whether you like it or not for the other side. "Only the people who are devoted bashers of DF didnt like it" etc etc.
Also get your eyes checked if you think that the gameplay video is what it will look like on release.
We have already seen a 2nd video in which the graphics are turned up a little higher and look obviously different/better.
Oh and "every single person" who wasnt a fanboy was disgusted?
Yea WRONG!
Why are you wrong?
Well because there were a few posts in this forum alone in which people who were new to the game or former skeptics who came here and said either "Wow that video was amazing and after looking into the game im really excited"
or
"well i was a skeptic before but this video changes everything, im excited now"
If you really want me to i will find links for you, but hopefully you wont be that trollish.
Sorry if you didnt like the video, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But the majority of people were satisfied or very happy with the video, and thats just how it is.
lol those people are just fanboys to begin with. I'm sorry but that video was trash, and everything about it looked like trash.
Keep fooling yourself. The game is gonna look just like it does now.
If the develepors fail at making a good advert of their game what chance have they got to make a good game altogether?
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
Eh not really. Arent you that guy who got all pissy about the mmorpg forums btw and wrote a post saying how you were leaving or something?
Anyways the same arguement can be made whether you like it or not for the other side. "Only the people who are devoted bashers of DF didnt like it" etc etc.
Also get your eyes checked if you think that the gameplay video is what it will look like on release.
We have already seen a 2nd video in which the graphics are turned up a little higher and look obviously different/better.
Oh and "every single person" who wasnt a fanboy was disgusted?
Yea WRONG!
Why are you wrong?
Well because there were a few posts in this forum alone in which people who were new to the game or former skeptics who came here and said either "Wow that video was amazing and after looking into the game im really excited"
or
"well i was a skeptic before but this video changes everything, im excited now"
If you really want me to i will find links for you, but hopefully you wont be that trollish.
Sorry if you didnt like the video, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But the majority of people were satisfied or very happy with the video, and thats just how it is.
Ah good point it looks like I am wrong.
FYP
I can remember a few guys who were pretty outspoken skeptics/haters of DF making threads or post after the video apologizing and showing their interest.
So unless they were just faking it for months before the video just to get attention or something then sorry but you may have to admit that people that werent fanbois liked the video. Just like i admit that there are plenty out there who think it was complete trash.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
The game looks wierd, awkard character movement, what kind of game is this? Every minute the characters were screaming and fighting each other... I think this is going to be basically a fps game with the element of sword bow and magic to replace the guns. They showed fighting for 29 minutes off the video 5 seconds of a dwarf using a blacksmith hammer (crafting does'nt look interesting), some really crap graphics with the ship battles. When they go in the actual town for 2 seconds well the game looks better but with all the fighting they're doing it just looks yuk, it's the movement it doesn't look enjoying. I was hoping that this game was going to be like a classic, Unfortunately the video has put me off. The main thing that's happened is while I watched the trailer I noticed that if your not fighting other people there's nothing too keep you specifically interested. Anyone feel the same? Bah maybe my expectations have just rocketed after playing fallout :P I wish they made that into a mmo.......
Guys guys guys thx for making a topic and hype the game further while you hate it this game will sell it self but we had alot of help from you trolls haters and vapor screamers THX guys for so much attention and helping HYPING the game:)
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I honestly don't see what people are so hyped about about this game for. The combat looks very choppy and sluggish but I suppose one will never know until you try it.
Dont come here then simple as that, nobody force you to follow it.
Ahh he say he hates it but he gonne play it anyway hahaha.
Silly kids:P
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I'm a hardcore PvP'er, it's why i endgame mmo's, it's why I love to blast someone in the face point blank with a street sweeper, it's why I play games AT ALL.
However lets be real here.
It's not about A.D.D kids, it's about quality of presentation.
Chefs do it, artists do it, game makers should do it.
You don't order a steak and get it tossed in your salad with mash all over, you don't order a lobster and have it dry and be expected to pay for it.
Thats what DF looks like now in it's beta (or is it alpha?) state, thats going to throw alot of players off.
"Oh who cares, this game is for pvp".
It looks like Drakken (order of the flame) a game written about 9 years ago, it's WAY substandard to even shadowbane (as of now) the mages animations are sloppy and the spells just seen "Whoosh" you around .
As a matter of fact lets take a look of successful half assed pvp games.
Shadowbane - How can one measure success... Well one step is not to have shadow bane in the measuring pool.
Fury - I am still furious this game sucked so bad. I even BOUGHT IT.
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How well did those two do? (We won't even mention planet side)
Wait there isn't a successful pvp mmo anywhere! Why? Because you rabid fanboys saying the graphics are fine, this is fine, all is fine,game play is fine, the community ...when it's not.. So many people are stating that it looks like crap...maybe it does.
It's not the pvp part that grips players or detracts players it's presentation, polish, and a sheen that a product should have, not just for A.D.D kids eh. Whats really sad is the concept is great, but the presentation just sucks.
Why am I going to be generic warrior X smashing Generic Mage Z in this game when I can do it in the next, and not be reminded of the failings of the art team.
Everyone wants to atleast look decent and fight decent looking players in a decent looking zone, and not something out a less than par Torque engine game (which is EXACTLY EXACTLY what Df looks like.)
A game can be as good as it can get, and if it's truely ugly (as this one is at the mmo-ment) not alot of people are going to appreciate this one, and it's likely to do just as the games it's trying to emulate.
This game currently lacks any of the features that'd keep me playing outside of primetime kill fests, and as a pvp'er I don't like that. It's already going to be niched so I wonder how the populace will be during primetime at all. Let alone off peak.
Darkfall has so much potential but am I ready for another 50 year dev time for an unpolished "Whoosh your targets" genericmmo v.03_PvP_Mod ?
Kinda, and thats only because nothing is out worth a crap, though as much support as I give DF I have to wonder if this puppy isn't just the DnL of PvP.
I'm a hardcore PvP'er, it's why i endgame mmo's, it's why I love to blast someone in the face point blank with a street sweeper, it's why I play games AT ALL. However lets be real here. It's not about A.D.D kids, it's about quality of presentation. Chefs do it, artists do it, game makers should do it.
You don't order a steak and get it tossed in your salad with mash all over, you don't order a lobster and have it dry and be expected to pay for it. Thats what DF looks like now in it's beta (or is it alpha?) state, thats going to throw alot of players off. "Oh who cares, this game is for pvp". It looks like Drakken (order of the flame) a game written about 9 years ago, it's WAY substandard to even shadowbane (as of now) the mages animations are sloppy and the spells just seen "Whoosh" you around . As a matter of fact lets take a look of successful half assed pvp games. Shadowbane - How can one measure success... Well one step is not to have shadow bane in the measuring pool. Fury - I am still furious this game sucked so bad. I even BOUGHT IT. .... ......... ..................... How well did those two do? (We won't even mention planet side) Wait there isn't a successful pvp mmo anywhere! Why? Because you rabid fanboys saying the graphics are fine, this is fine, all is fine,game play is fine, the community ...when it's not.. So many people are stating that it looks like crap...maybe it does.
It's not the pvp part that grips players or detracts players it's presentation, polish, and a sheen that a product should have, not just for A.D.D kids eh. Whats really sad is the concept is great, but the presentation just sucks.
Why am I going to be generic warrior X smashing Generic Mage Z in this game when I can do it in the next, and not be reminded of the failings of the art team.
Everyone wants to atleast look decent and fight decent looking players in a decent looking zone, and not something out a less than par Torque engine game (which is EXACTLY EXACTLY what Df looks like.) A game can be as good as it can get, and if it's truely ugly (as this one is at the mmo-ment) not alot of people are going to appreciate this one, and it's likely to do just as the games it's trying to emulate.
This game currently lacks any of the features that'd keep me playing outside of primetime kill fests, and as a pvp'er I don't like that. It's already going to be niched so I wonder how the populace will be during primetime at all. Let alone off peak.
Darkfall has so much potential but am I ready for another 50 year dev time for an unpolished "Whoosh your targets" genericmmo v.03_PvP_Mod ? Kinda, and thats only because nothing is out worth a crap, though as much support as I give DF I have to wonder if this puppy isn't just the DnL of PvP.
Watch the ADW video and browse through the screenshots. The trailer was shot on low graphics settings and then compressed. The actual game will look better. If you want to say that every company claims that, then that is fine: but the ADW video proves that DF can look a lot better.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
I find it amusing that the great and mighty Darkfall is already tanking. This will never be anything more than a niche game, provided it's actually real...
Tanking? How is it tanking? If you mean the ratings on this site, they don't really matter (all 10s from fanbois and 1s from trolls). If not, please elaborate.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
I find it amusing that the great and mighty Darkfall is already tanking. This will never be anything more than a niche game, provided it's actually real...
lol @ people still thinking there is a chance the game isnt real
and lol @ people still thinking DF wants to be anything more than a niche game....or that a niche game is a bad thing for that matter.
I cant wait for this game for many reasons, but one minor one is how it gets under the skin and scares the @%^ out of so many people.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Yeh, the developers are a big fail at making good gameplay videos, I really hope it's because all their skillpoints went to gamemaking skills. On a sidenote, I find people who judge games by how fluid game character movement is to be quite pathetic individuals.
Yea the char shouldn't have fluid movements at all, they should all move like robots......I judge a game by alot of things and char movement is one of them, the only reason you call ppl pathetic is because they don't agree with you.
Edit: Also, that video was absolute trash....fanbois you have now been proven wrong. The char movement was disgusting and the gameplay looked slugish. R.I.P. darkfall
To be honest I can't see how graphics really impact on how a good a game is, they may make it nicer to look at but they don't actually effect how much fun it is to play and therefore how good a game it is. Tetris has the most basic graphics you could imagine, even at the time of release, but is probably easily in the top ten most played games by hours played, if not top.
Yeh, the developers are a big fail at making good gameplay videos, I really hope it's because all their skillpoints went to gamemaking skills. On a sidenote, I find people who judge games by how fluid game character movement is to be quite pathetic individuals.
Yea the char shouldn't have fluid movements at all, they should all move like robots......I judge a game by alot of things and char movement is one of them, the only reason you call ppl pathetic is because they don't agree with you.
Edit: Also, that video was absolute trash....fanbois you have now been proven wrong. The char movement was disgusting and the gameplay looked slugish. R.I.P. darkfall
but tell us how you really feel....
also, i love how the trolls lately have had this need to declare absolute victory and mention how we have been "proven wrong". well the only way we will be "proven wrong" is if the game doesnt release over the next couple months or releases and is just so god awful and none of the features are in it.
in the arguement of proving the otherside wrong and wining internet epic battles of epicness....the fanbois have definitely "won" more so far in proving to the trolls that the game is actually real and doesnt fit the description of vaporware anymore.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I find it amusing that the great and mighty Darkfall is already tanking. This will never be anything more than a niche game, provided it's actually real...
lol @ people still thinking there is a chance the game isnt real
and lol @ people still thinking DF wants to be anything more than a niche game....or that a niche game is a bad thing for that matter.
I cant wait for this game for many reasons, but one minor one is how it gets under the skin and scares the @%^ out of so many people.
Lol scares ppl, hahahaha the only person who is scared is you, I bet you won't come back to these forums with the same name because you will get critizied for your fanboism of a trash game like darkfall. You'll probably change your name to darkfallsuckss and say," I told you guys all along that darkfall was gonna suck" lol. You have so much passion for such a piece of sht game and it's so funny to watch you get angry and moody when someone trashes df. lol please keep going it amusing.
Edit: I bet your a cool person in real life but come on dude, you have to much pride in such a sub-par game and such sub-par devs.
I honestly don't see what people are so hyped about about this game for. The combat looks very choppy and sluggish but I suppose one will never know until you try it.
The abilty to change weapon at any moment as you wish and g mellee or ranged or try some magic or pop a mount and go mounted or man a battleship..
these talks for rich combat variations and experience..but is not for everyone..this is only for expert gamer..find you something else if you dislike
kkthxbye
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
I honestly don't see what people are so hyped about about this game for. The combat looks very choppy and sluggish but I suppose one will never know until you try it.
The abilty to change weapon at any moment as you wish and g mellee or ranged or try some magic or pop a mount and go mounted or man a battleship..
these talks for rich combat variations and experience..but is not for everyone..this is only for expert gamer..find you something else if you dislike
kkthxbye
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
Quite the turn off isnt it, Ive recently been bringing this up myself as I see people not familiar with Darkfall asking questions, the responses I see from the "fans" are beyond elitist and snobbish. Sad really, if they were really "fans" theyd welcome inquiries from possible new players with open arms and politeness.
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
Quite the turn off isnt it, Ive recently been bringing this up myself as I see people not familiar with Darkfall asking questions, the responses I see from the "fans" are beyond elitist and snobbish. Sad really, if they were really "fans" theyd welcome inquiries from possible new players with open arms and politeness.
Have to agree with you there. While not every DF fan has that attitude there are enough of the "Elitest" DF fans that somehow think they are gods gift to gaming, and that Darkfall will be a success with just them and maybe a few hundred others like them playing that they can tell eveyone else with any doubts to go away. Heheh I remember alot of that in VG as well and well look where it wound up.
Weird way to promote the game. ie "What you have doubts?! Get out of here with your questions noobs we donz need youz!" Kinda like only the true believers in Tasos need apply i guess. <shrug>. Once again a case of the fanbois doing much more harm to the game then any troll ever could.
I honestly don't see what people are so hyped about about this game for. The combat looks very choppy and sluggish but I suppose one will never know until you try it.
The abilty to change weapon at any moment as you wish and g mellee or ranged or try some magic or pop a mount and go mounted or man a battleship..
these talks for rich combat variations and experience..but is not for everyone..this is only for expert gamer..find you something else if you dislike
kkthxbye
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
You right sandbox style is one major feature of an game for experts..i have discussed details on why in the past ...science would support this if there would be an scientific examination about ...i don't think DF is the elite of games ..probably a RTS game as simulation using data real to reality and symbols for mental represantation of game mechanics and assets would win as most complex game for the expert gamer ...or chess :P..But on the MMO segement i am sure only a sandbox is worth mentioning game for experts...
Don't mean it in an offensive way btw , there are many books for "dummies" on the market and there books for experts too...everyone is happy ..the dummies reading the easy stuff ..the experts the advanced stuff ...
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I find it amusing that the great and mighty Darkfall is already tanking. This will never be anything more than a niche game, provided it's actually real...
lol @ people still thinking there is a chance the game isnt real
and lol @ people still thinking DF wants to be anything more than a niche game....or that a niche game is a bad thing for that matter.
I cant wait for this game for many reasons, but one minor one is how it gets under the skin and scares the @%^ out of so many people.
Lol scares ppl, hahahaha the only person who is scared is you, I bet you won't come back to these forums with the same name because you will get critizied for your fanboism of a trash game like darkfall. You'll probably change your name to darkfallsuckss and say," I told you guys all along that darkfall was gonna suck" lol. You have so much passion for such a piece of sht game and it's so funny to watch you get angry and moody when someone trashes df. lol please keep going it amusing.
Edit: I bet your a cool person in real life but come on dude, you have to much pride in such a sub-par game and such sub-par devs.
I can't believe im going to bite on this but what the hell im bored.
What exactly am i scared of again?
I have said multiple times that I am skeptical of the game releasing smoothly and the idea of lag in a game that has FPS combat. Will hardly change my name if that comes true.
Am i scared that the game will never release or it will be a scam? Nope not really lol.
This game could release with 1/2 its features and it would still be a huge success for those of us who are into this kind of niche gameplay. This game could break a zillion subs and you will still see trolls on this board bashing it and declaring victory. And none of us will really care because we will have a game we enjoy.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
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good point
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
AoC had sliding characters in Beta, but they fixed it before release (probably the only thing they fixed in time)
So if Funcom can make it, Aventurine should have no problem with it.
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
Eh not really. Arent you that guy who got all pissy about the mmorpg forums btw and wrote a post saying how you were leaving or something?
Anyways the same arguement can be made whether you like it or not for the other side. "Only the people who are devoted bashers of DF didnt like it" etc etc.
Also get your eyes checked if you think that the gameplay video is what it will look like on release.
We have already seen a 2nd video in which the graphics are turned up a little higher and look obviously different/better.
Oh and "every single person" who wasnt a fanboy was disgusted?
Yea WRONG!
Why are you wrong?
Well because there were a few posts in this forum alone in which people who were new to the game or former skeptics who came here and said either "Wow that video was amazing and after looking into the game im really excited"
or
"well i was a skeptic before but this video changes everything, im excited now"
If you really want me to i will find links for you, but hopefully you wont be that trollish.
Sorry if you didnt like the video, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But the majority of people were satisfied or very happy with the video, and thats just how it is.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
Eh not really. Arent you that guy who got all pissy about the mmorpg forums btw and wrote a post saying how you were leaving or something?
Anyways the same arguement can be made whether you like it or not for the other side. "Only the people who are devoted bashers of DF didnt like it" etc etc.
Also get your eyes checked if you think that the gameplay video is what it will look like on release.
We have already seen a 2nd video in which the graphics are turned up a little higher and look obviously different/better.
Oh and "every single person" who wasnt a fanboy was disgusted?
Yea WRONG!
Why are you wrong?
Well because there were a few posts in this forum alone in which people who were new to the game or former skeptics who came here and said either "Wow that video was amazing and after looking into the game im really excited"
or
"well i was a skeptic before but this video changes everything, im excited now"
If you really want me to i will find links for you, but hopefully you wont be that trollish.
Sorry if you didnt like the video, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But the majority of people were satisfied or very happy with the video, and thats just how it is.
lol those people are just fanboys to begin with. I'm sorry but that video was trash, and everything about it looked like trash.
Keep fooling yourself. The game is gonna look just like it does now.
good point
Actually, it is a horrible point. Making a good advert is something that a PR department does. If we were discussing a movie, than this would be slightly more valid. However, the trailer was made by game developers. They don't make movies, they make games. Being good at one does not neccessarily entail being good at the other.
Another good point.
Also keep in mind that the majority of people felt that the "advert" which i assume is talking about the 17min gameplay movie was AMAZING and was everything they were hoping for and then some in terms of seeing gameplay. (yes it didnt show us every aspect of the game, but it showed us enough)
I'm sorry, but every single person who has seen the gameplay video who has not been such a rabid fanboy/devoted believer, has been disgusted and had no interest in it.
"The majority" that you speak of would have been happy if the video was just some characters sitting around, and then camera rotating to show random towns or areas.
Here's the thing though.
1. The game looks exactly like the released video looks, compression, lower settings, all just excuses used by developers plenty of times, and it never changes upon release. Ever.
2. It's not hard to make a video of a game, or to make it interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch
A video i made when i converted a custom Zombie panic source map into a smod outbreak map, and then added all the spawns myself. Took me 7 minutes to film, 10-20 minutes of actual "setup time". And guess what? that's exactly how the game plays(admittedly fraps made the game a lot darker then it should have).
You get a clear idea what the game is like, what it looks like, and how it plays. If i had the movie tools, and admin access to a mmorpg I could damn well make a better video for any mmo in less then a week, only a couple hours a night. If the developers actually cared enough and wanted to post videos(because they were confident) then they would have. Unless i've missed some beta leaks, we still haven't see someone actually playing the game(unless you count that old video which shows the biggest pos game ever)
3. If you can code a game, or design graphics, you should have enough skill to edit together some videos for a interesting gameplay trailer, theres no reason not to. Theres 14 year olds who can make amazing AMVs using video clips they assembled together along with a matching song, and it's brilliant.
Eh not really. Arent you that guy who got all pissy about the mmorpg forums btw and wrote a post saying how you were leaving or something?
Anyways the same arguement can be made whether you like it or not for the other side. "Only the people who are devoted bashers of DF didnt like it" etc etc.
Also get your eyes checked if you think that the gameplay video is what it will look like on release.
We have already seen a 2nd video in which the graphics are turned up a little higher and look obviously different/better.
Oh and "every single person" who wasnt a fanboy was disgusted?
Yea WRONG!
Why are you wrong?
Well because there were a few posts in this forum alone in which people who were new to the game or former skeptics who came here and said either "Wow that video was amazing and after looking into the game im really excited"
or
"well i was a skeptic before but this video changes everything, im excited now"
If you really want me to i will find links for you, but hopefully you wont be that trollish.
Sorry if you didnt like the video, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But the majority of people were satisfied or very happy with the video, and thats just how it is.
Ah good point it looks like I am wrong.
FYP
I can remember a few guys who were pretty outspoken skeptics/haters of DF making threads or post after the video apologizing and showing their interest.
So unless they were just faking it for months before the video just to get attention or something then sorry but you may have to admit that people that werent fanbois liked the video. Just like i admit that there are plenty out there who think it was complete trash.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Guys guys guys thx for making a topic and hype the game further while you hate it this game will sell it self but we had alot of help from you trolls haters and vapor screamers THX guys for so much attention and helping HYPING the game:)
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Dont come here then simple as that, nobody force you to follow it.
Huh?
.....................still here...........i cya yah
Why you still here?
Hey you there wtf your doing?
Ahh he say he hates it but he gonne play it anyway hahaha.
Silly kids:P
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I'm a hardcore PvP'er, it's why i endgame mmo's, it's why I love to blast someone in the face point blank with a street sweeper, it's why I play games AT ALL.
However lets be real here.
It's not about A.D.D kids, it's about quality of presentation.
Chefs do it, artists do it, game makers should do it.
You don't order a steak and get it tossed in your salad with mash all over, you don't order a lobster and have it dry and be expected to pay for it.
Thats what DF looks like now in it's beta (or is it alpha?) state, thats going to throw alot of players off.
"Oh who cares, this game is for pvp".
It looks like Drakken (order of the flame) a game written about 9 years ago, it's WAY substandard to even shadowbane (as of now) the mages animations are sloppy and the spells just seen "Whoosh" you around .
As a matter of fact lets take a look of successful half assed pvp games.
Shadowbane - How can one measure success... Well one step is not to have shadow bane in the measuring pool.
Fury - I am still furious this game sucked so bad. I even BOUGHT IT.
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How well did those two do? (We won't even mention planet side)
Wait there isn't a successful pvp mmo anywhere! Why? Because you rabid fanboys saying the graphics are fine, this is fine, all is fine,game play is fine, the community ...when it's not.. So many people are stating that it looks like crap...maybe it does.
It's not the pvp part that grips players or detracts players it's presentation, polish, and a sheen that a product should have, not just for A.D.D kids eh. Whats really sad is the concept is great, but the presentation just sucks.
Why am I going to be generic warrior X smashing Generic Mage Z in this game when I can do it in the next, and not be reminded of the failings of the art team.
Everyone wants to atleast look decent and fight decent looking players in a decent looking zone, and not something out a less than par Torque engine game (which is EXACTLY EXACTLY what Df looks like.)
A game can be as good as it can get, and if it's truely ugly (as this one is at the mmo-ment) not alot of people are going to appreciate this one, and it's likely to do just as the games it's trying to emulate.
This game currently lacks any of the features that'd keep me playing outside of primetime kill fests, and as a pvp'er I don't like that. It's already going to be niched so I wonder how the populace will be during primetime at all. Let alone off peak.
Darkfall has so much potential but am I ready for another 50 year dev time for an unpolished "Whoosh your targets" genericmmo v.03_PvP_Mod ?
Kinda, and thats only because nothing is out worth a crap, though as much support as I give DF I have to wonder if this puppy isn't just the DnL of PvP.
good point
Except they did.
With zero advert, and zero information, they got the most hyped game in MMORPG.com with Aion.
Call them stupid..................
Actually if it really was a hoax, Tasos should be put in charge of Marketing at EA....................
Watch the ADW video and browse through the screenshots. The trailer was shot on low graphics settings and then compressed. The actual game will look better. If you want to say that every company claims that, then that is fine: but the ADW video proves that DF can look a lot better.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
I find it amusing that the great and mighty Darkfall is already tanking.
This will never be anything more than a niche game, provided it's actually real...
Tanking? How is it tanking? If you mean the ratings on this site, they don't really matter (all 10s from fanbois and 1s from trolls). If not, please elaborate.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
lol @ people still thinking there is a chance the game isnt real
and lol @ people still thinking DF wants to be anything more than a niche game....or that a niche game is a bad thing for that matter.
I cant wait for this game for many reasons, but one minor one is how it gets under the skin and scares the @%^ out of so many people.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Yea the char shouldn't have fluid movements at all, they should all move like robots......I judge a game by alot of things and char movement is one of them, the only reason you call ppl pathetic is because they don't agree with you.
Edit: Also, that video was absolute trash....fanbois you have now been proven wrong. The char movement was disgusting and the gameplay looked slugish. R.I.P. darkfall
Trolls = Hardcore
Fanbois = Carebears
The only posts I read in threads are my own.
To be honest I can't see how graphics really impact on how a good a game is, they may make it nicer to look at but they don't actually effect how much fun it is to play and therefore how good a game it is. Tetris has the most basic graphics you could imagine, even at the time of release, but is probably easily in the top ten most played games by hours played, if not top.
Yea the char shouldn't have fluid movements at all, they should all move like robots......I judge a game by alot of things and char movement is one of them, the only reason you call ppl pathetic is because they don't agree with you.
Edit: Also, that video was absolute trash....fanbois you have now been proven wrong. The char movement was disgusting and the gameplay looked slugish. R.I.P. darkfall
but tell us how you really feel....
also, i love how the trolls lately have had this need to declare absolute victory and mention how we have been "proven wrong". well the only way we will be "proven wrong" is if the game doesnt release over the next couple months or releases and is just so god awful and none of the features are in it.
in the arguement of proving the otherside wrong and wining internet epic battles of epicness....the fanbois have definitely "won" more so far in proving to the trolls that the game is actually real and doesnt fit the description of vaporware anymore.
troll elsewhere
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
lol @ people still thinking there is a chance the game isnt real
and lol @ people still thinking DF wants to be anything more than a niche game....or that a niche game is a bad thing for that matter.
I cant wait for this game for many reasons, but one minor one is how it gets under the skin and scares the @%^ out of so many people.
Lol scares ppl, hahahaha the only person who is scared is you, I bet you won't come back to these forums with the same name because you will get critizied for your fanboism of a trash game like darkfall. You'll probably change your name to darkfallsuckss and say," I told you guys all along that darkfall was gonna suck" lol. You have so much passion for such a piece of sht game and it's so funny to watch you get angry and moody when someone trashes df. lol please keep going it amusing.
Edit: I bet your a cool person in real life but come on dude, you have to much pride in such a sub-par game and such sub-par devs.
Trolls = Hardcore
Fanbois = Carebears
The only posts I read in threads are my own.
The abilty to change weapon at any moment as you wish and g mellee or ranged or try some magic or pop a mount and go mounted or man a battleship..
these talks for rich combat variations and experience..but is not for everyone..this is only for expert gamer..find you something else if you dislike
kkthxbye
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
The abilty to change weapon at any moment as you wish and g mellee or ranged or try some magic or pop a mount and go mounted or man a battleship..
these talks for rich combat variations and experience..but is not for everyone..this is only for expert gamer..find you something else if you dislike
kkthxbye
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
Quite the turn off isnt it, Ive recently been bringing this up myself as I see people not familiar with Darkfall asking questions, the responses I see from the "fans" are beyond elitist and snobbish. Sad really, if they were really "fans" theyd welcome inquiries from possible new players with open arms and politeness.
Quite the turn off isnt it, Ive recently been bringing this up myself as I see people not familiar with Darkfall asking questions, the responses I see from the "fans" are beyond elitist and snobbish. Sad really, if they were really "fans" theyd welcome inquiries from possible new players with open arms and politeness.
Have to agree with you there. While not every DF fan has that attitude there are enough of the "Elitest" DF fans that somehow think they are gods gift to gaming, and that Darkfall will be a success with just them and maybe a few hundred others like them playing that they can tell eveyone else with any doubts to go away. Heheh I remember alot of that in VG as well and well look where it wound up.
Weird way to promote the game. ie "What you have doubts?! Get out of here with your questions noobs we donz need youz!" Kinda like only the true believers in Tasos need apply i guess. <shrug>. Once again a case of the fanbois doing much more harm to the game then any troll ever could.
The abilty to change weapon at any moment as you wish and g mellee or ranged or try some magic or pop a mount and go mounted or man a battleship..
these talks for rich combat variations and experience..but is not for everyone..this is only for expert gamer..find you something else if you dislike
kkthxbye
typical DF fan reaction, they really think they are the experts and the players who really know what a good mmo is, anything not sandbox is being played by newbs according to them
You right sandbox style is one major feature of an game for experts..i have discussed details on why in the past ...science would support this if there would be an scientific examination about ...i don't think DF is the elite of games ..probably a RTS game as simulation using data real to reality and symbols for mental represantation of game mechanics and assets would win as most complex game for the expert gamer ...or chess :P..But on the MMO segement i am sure only a sandbox is worth mentioning game for experts...
Don't mean it in an offensive way btw , there are many books for "dummies" on the market and there books for experts too...everyone is happy ..the dummies reading the easy stuff ..the experts the advanced stuff ...
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
lol @ people still thinking there is a chance the game isnt real
and lol @ people still thinking DF wants to be anything more than a niche game....or that a niche game is a bad thing for that matter.
I cant wait for this game for many reasons, but one minor one is how it gets under the skin and scares the @%^ out of so many people.
Lol scares ppl, hahahaha the only person who is scared is you, I bet you won't come back to these forums with the same name because you will get critizied for your fanboism of a trash game like darkfall. You'll probably change your name to darkfallsuckss and say," I told you guys all along that darkfall was gonna suck" lol. You have so much passion for such a piece of sht game and it's so funny to watch you get angry and moody when someone trashes df. lol please keep going it amusing.
Edit: I bet your a cool person in real life but come on dude, you have to much pride in such a sub-par game and such sub-par devs.
I can't believe im going to bite on this but what the hell im bored.
What exactly am i scared of again?
I have said multiple times that I am skeptical of the game releasing smoothly and the idea of lag in a game that has FPS combat. Will hardly change my name if that comes true.
Am i scared that the game will never release or it will be a scam? Nope not really lol.
This game could release with 1/2 its features and it would still be a huge success for those of us who are into this kind of niche gameplay. This game could break a zillion subs and you will still see trolls on this board bashing it and declaring victory. And none of us will really care because we will have a game we enjoy.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos