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WARNING WARNING - AUTOMATIC PAYMENT ENABLED !!

For those that had ALREADY desided to pay on montly basis (was an option in account) this has now been CHANGED.  

You will have recived a E-mail telling you about this changes.  I thought Mythic was above this low tactics to get free money but.... obviously not...

So go into your account and chancel subscription if you dont want to be charged automaticly forever - when you thought you were manually subing for the account on monthly basis.

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  • TrashcantoyTrashcantoy Member Posts: 827

    u got an email to warn you so what are you complaining about? automatic payment is normal for mmos

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    About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
    Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)

  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269

    This is different from every other subbed mmo?

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  • teddy_bareteddy_bare Member UncommonPosts: 398
    Originally posted by Frobner


    For those that had ALREADY desided to pay on montly basis (was an option in account) this has now been CHANGED.  
    You will have recived a E-mail telling you about this changes.  I thought Mythic was above this low tactics to get free money but.... obviously not...
    So go into your account and chancel subscription if you dont want to be charged automaticly forever - when you thought you were manually subing for the account on monthly basis.



    I don't understand what you are complaining about.

    Even if they did have a one-month and off option, and they DID take it away, the current language is VERY clear. And hell, if they did change it like you say, they sent you an e-mail warning you about the change, so I really don't understand why you are complaining.

    Besides, almost every other MMO out there uses a recurring billing cycle, it's the industry standard. Hell, I don't even remember there being a single month and off option and I've been subbed since release, it's certainly possible but I don't recal it being there in the first place. My personal opinion is that you must have misunderstood, or misread something and got mad when you found out that, like just about every other MMO out there, the sub options are all recurring billing cycles. It's almost unheard of to have a non-recurring sub option....in fact, I don't think I've every seen such an option in any MMO out there. And again, what's it matter when they sent you an e-mail to warn you about it?

    Here's how it looks now (and how it's always looked as far as I can remember), seems painfully clear, and they obviously aren't trying to get anything over on anyone....

    Please select your preferred billing cycle.

    To avoid an interruption in service, your account will continue to be billed based upon your selection.

    The Renewal Cycle you choose only applies to this Game Account.

    Billing Cycle

    $14.99* WAR 30-Day Subscription

    $41.97* WAR 90-Day Subscription

    $77.94* WAR 180-Day Subscription

    * plus applicable taxes

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293
    Originally posted by Frobner


    For those that had ALREADY desided to pay on montly basis (was an option in account) this has now been CHANGED.  
    You will have recived a E-mail telling you about this changes.  I thought Mythic was above this low tactics to get free money but.... obviously not...
    So go into your account and chancel subscription if you dont want to be charged automaticly forever - when you thought you were manually subing for the account on monthly basis.

     

    Every MMO I have ever played from UO, DAOC, LOTRO, WoW, AoC, TR, EvE, EQ, EQ2, AC, AC2 etc etc have all auto renewed at the end of the month. This is standard practice and tells you that when you enter your information.

    Its so lazy people dont have to go back to their website, reenter the information, and then resubscribe every 30 days. Granted it has the added benefit of getting revenue from people to lazy or forgetful to cancel... but it more or less balances out.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by mrw0lf


    This is different from every other subbed mmo?

    it isnt, armchair forum jockeys just trying to be cool........

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  • NivezNivez Member Posts: 93

    haha not to my knowledge, all the games i played charge same time every month:P in fact i think majority of them in the small print tell you that they will charge and to cancel if you dont want to be hit:)

  • FrobnerFrobner Member Posts: 649

    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT Automaticly subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.

    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

  • EndlosEndlos Member Posts: 127
    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT Automaticly subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.



     

    But if they sent that same email to everyone that had the option selected, then it isn't a problem.

    Simply don't see the big deal here.

  • teddy_bareteddy_bare Member UncommonPosts: 398
    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT Automaticly subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

     

    Umm, yeah, but like you said, they warned you about it via e-mail. If you don't like it, just cancel your subscription at the end of the month. It isn't a low blow, it's just following what every other MMO I have ever played has done, as per industry standard.

    It's hardly a low blow, ESPECIALLY when they gave you ample warning via e-mail. I can understand if they didn't warn you at all, but you even said they sent you an e-mail.

    I don't see a problem here and it seems like you are just looking for something to complain about and jumped on this.

  • LiquidWolfLiquidWolf Member CommonPosts: 516
    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT manually subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

     

    Your opinion is created by an over-reaction to them changing something in the billing options.

    I don't even remember there being an option to FORCE you to renew every month just to keep the sub going...

    All I ever remember seeing were the 3 different subscription types.

    also, the area I highlighted, doesn't sound right.

    Did you mean: "you bought your last monthly sub there was an option to buy it without automatically subbing every month."   ???

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Just conceider it a bailout effort. AHH saving jobs, good for the Global Warming were going through this winter. Come on have a heart your greedy Captialist.

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  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by mrw0lf


    This is different from every other subbed mmo?

    it isnt, armchair forum jockeys just trying to be cool........

    Ok I dont normally bit but this time I will.

     

    You have no idea what you are talking about,if you went to cancel your account you were told you dont have to as you never had the auto renew enabled,now 3 or 4 days before player's account is going to end they have started to auto enable there accounts so they not only were lied too they are now getting there accounts changed without the player doing it for themselve's.

    LoL to you that seems uncool to complain and the 1s that do are just guys that want to seem cool...

    *scratches head* now what were you saying about being cool?

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    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by mrw0lf


    This is different from every other subbed mmo?

    it isnt, armchair forum jockeys just trying to be cool........

    quoting myself for QFE :D

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  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by mrw0lf


    This is different from every other subbed mmo?

    it isnt, armchair forum jockeys just trying to be cool........

    quoting myself for QFE :D

    Going to get a ban but dont care....YOU miagisan are 1 of the problems that hold mmo's back,you are always right and there is nothing wrong with mmo's that release,I am guessing you have just found the genre or have played for many a year and still wear blindfolds.

     

    Either way I am glad I am taking a break as I am sick of you type of so called players,enjoy your forum trolling.

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    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

  • FrobnerFrobner Member Posts: 649
    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT manually subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

     

    Your opinion is created by an over-reaction to them changing something in the billing options.

    I don't even remember there being an option to FORCE you to renew every month just to keep the sub going...

    All I ever remember seeing were the 3 different subscription types.

    also, the area I highlighted, doesn't sound right.

    Did you mean: "you bought your last monthly sub there was an option to buy it without automatically subbing every month."   ???

    Yes there was an otion to buy it WITHOUT automatic subbing it.   Already fixed that error.

     

    BUt this is exactly why Im warning ppl here.  Those that thought they would ONLY be buying one more month (and then maybe quit the game) will NOW be charged - not just for next month - but FOREVER if they are not gonna be looking at their creditcard bill...  

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by mrw0lf


    This is different from every other subbed mmo?

    it isnt, armchair forum jockeys just trying to be cool........

    quoting myself for QFE :D

    Going to get a ban but dont care....YOU miagisan are 1 of the problems that hold mmo's back,you are always right and there is nothing wrong with mmo's that release,I am guessing you have just found the genre or have played for many a year and still wear blindfolds.

     

    Either way I am glad I am taking a break as I am sick of you type of so called players,enjoy your forum trolling.

    my type of players? what type would that be? and have you even read any of my post history, i am VERY critical of games, got banned several times for calling out AoC. But this is just nitpicking.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    oh forgot:

     

    QQ!

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  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250

    Mate I wouldnt even bother check this link,,

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/211846

    Wneh I tried to warn them I got nothing but childish remarks to start with.

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    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by daylight01


    Mate I wouldnt even bother check this link,,
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/211846
    Wneh I tried to warn them I got nothing but childish remarks to start with.

     

    so because you were trying to prove yourself right, you end up name calling me for something which is an industry standard? AND they sent you an email to WARN you that your billing cycle will be ENABLED PRIOR to them actually doing it? Then you try to bully me with your previous post?

     

    It's people like YOU that maybe are causing this industry to go to crap, with your constant belittling of others and having to BE RIGHT, while not taking into consideration another person's taste in games

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  • LiquidWolfLiquidWolf Member CommonPosts: 516
    Originally posted by Frobner

    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT manually subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

     

    Your opinion is created by an over-reaction to them changing something in the billing options.

    I don't even remember there being an option to FORCE you to renew every month just to keep the sub going...

    All I ever remember seeing were the 3 different subscription types.

    also, the area I highlighted, doesn't sound right.

    Did you mean: "you bought your last monthly sub there was an option to buy it without automatically subbing every month."   ???

    Yes there was an otion to buy it WITHOUT automatic subbing it.   Already fixed that error.

     

    BUt this is exactly why Im warning ppl here.  Those that thought they would ONLY be buying one more month (and then maybe quit the game) will NOW be charged - not just for next month - but FOREVER if they are not gonna be looking at their creditcard bill...  

     

    I'm sure people who did buy just one more month thinking it would cancel appreciate your effort to warn them....

    but you decided to  put in this: That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

    which doesn't make you look too public service oriented.

    Mythic probably pulled that option because people were not making use of it...

    Perhaps it was there so that people could choose to go two months, rather than have to resubscribe/unsubscribe for the 1-3 months they wanted to try it out... Many people feel 1 month isn't enough time to "try" and MMO...

    The option itself doesn't sound like it was meant to be there longterm.

    Thank you for the Post, but if you want it to be a public service announcement, you will need to  leave your feelings out of it.

  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by daylight01


    Mate I wouldnt even bother check this link,,
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/211846
    Wneh I tried to warn them I got nothing but childish remarks to start with.

     

    so because you were trying to prove yourself right, you end up name calling me for something which is an industry standard? AND they sent you an email to WARN you that your billing cycle will be ENABLED PRIOR to them actually doing it? Then you try to bully me with your previous post?

     

    It's people like YOU that maybe are causing this industry to go to crap, with your constant belittling of others and having to BE RIGHT, while not taking into consideration another person's taste in games



     

    LOL yeah thats why I 1st posted to belittle other players.../sigh

    I did it incase someone knew other guys that maybe away for the weekend and will find they have been billed for another month/or something alomg the same lines.

    i never asked you to get involved in this thread you done that yourself,so maybe take a step back and see these threads about the accounts for what they are....a warning!

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    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

  • FrobnerFrobner Member Posts: 649
    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Frobner

    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT manually subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

     

    Your opinion is created by an over-reaction to them changing something in the billing options.

    I don't even remember there being an option to FORCE you to renew every month just to keep the sub going...

    All I ever remember seeing were the 3 different subscription types.

    also, the area I highlighted, doesn't sound right.

    Did you mean: "you bought your last monthly sub there was an option to buy it without automatically subbing every month."   ???

    Yes there was an otion to buy it WITHOUT automatic subbing it.   Already fixed that error.

     

    BUt this is exactly why Im warning ppl here.  Those that thought they would ONLY be buying one more month (and then maybe quit the game) will NOW be charged - not just for next month - but FOREVER if they are not gonna be looking at their creditcard bill...  

     

    I'm sure people who did buy just one more month thinking it would cancel appreciate your effort to warn them....

    but you decided to  put in this: That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.

    which doesn't make you look too public service oriented.

    Mythic probably pulled that option because people were not making use of it...

    Perhaps it was there so that people could choose to go two months, rather than have to resubscribe/unsubscribe for the 1-3 months they wanted to try it out... Many people feel 1 month isn't enough time to "try" and MMO...

    The option itself doesn't sound like it was meant to be there longterm.

    Thank you for the Post, but if you want it to be a public service announcement, you will need to  leave your feelings out of it.



     

    Im sorry that my opinion is that this is a low blow.  Why do I think so ?  Cause I clicked this SPECIAL otpion to NOT get automatic subbed again.   I expected that to stand and I expect 1000s of ppl are expecting that.  PPL that maybe have ALREADY quit the game or have mail from WAR set on junkmail. 

    Yes - My opinion is clear - it has NOTHING to do what I think about the game.  It has to do about my money and my choise that I already took in the account page about 1 month ago.  I find that to be a disgrace from Mythic to do this.  That will stand.

  • ThunderousThunderous Member Posts: 1,152
    Originally posted by Frobner


    The diffrence is that when you bought your last montly sub there was an option to buy it WITHOUT Automaticly subing every month.  There was a SPECIAL button for that and those that think they will not be charged because of that WILL be charged now.
    That is in my opinion a VERY low blow from Mythic.



     

    Trying to be logical on a gaming message board is a waste of your time.

    No WAR fanboi or MMO fanboi wants to hear that the contract they purchased just got changed on them.  I personally don't think it is a major deal but the fact that you purchase a monthly subscription only to have an option disabled for you to cancel payment before resubbing is the problem.

    This industry is allowed to get away with so much BS because there is almost no legislation protection the consumers.  One day that may change, but it won't be for quite a while.

    Tecmo Bowl.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by daylight01


    Mate I wouldnt even bother check this link,,
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/211846
    Wneh I tried to warn them I got nothing but childish remarks to start with.

     

    so because you were trying to prove yourself right, you end up name calling me for something which is an industry standard? AND they sent you an email to WARN you that your billing cycle will be ENABLED PRIOR to them actually doing it? Then you try to bully me with your previous post?

     

    It's people like YOU that maybe are causing this industry to go to crap, with your constant belittling of others and having to BE RIGHT, while not taking into consideration another person's taste in games



     

    LOL yeah thats why I 1st posted to belittle other players.../sigh

    I did it incase someone knew other guys that maybe away for the weekend and will find they have been billed for another month/or something alomg the same lines.

    i never asked you to get involved in this thread you done that yourself,so maybe take a step back and see these threads about the accounts for what they are....a warning!

     

    and who asked you to get into this thread? i don't see you being invited by the OP specifically. and i agree, a warning is fine, BUT, at the same time, if they do NOT have access to their email, what makes you think they will have access to this website?

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  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250

    Because there is a chance a friend may see it and warn them.

    Look this thread and the other 1 does not hurt anyone but may help someone.

    Why dont we leave it at that?

     

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    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

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