MMMM.. Words...

SupderD

I hope I get to eat my words.. just reading this forums.. makes my stomach growl..  Here is the Italian review with an english translation..

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/forum/f296/darkfall-beta-review-212918/

 

MMM.. words..

originalegg

Words go really good with a side of "I told ya so"...maybe a little ketchup

The review is so great its amazing.  Describing the graphics as the best they have seen in MMORPGs...the gamplay comments...especially all in line with the beta reviews that people were trying to play conspiracy theorist about.

People accusing aventurine of telling lies about beta going on and "oh just let someone come in and play the game and review it".  Well they did, and they said that anyone who wants to come is willing to do so.  Does that mean they aren't willing to shell out money to sites to come review?  I hope so.

 

Thoric485

This year - screenshots, videos, media coverage, beta and a free from NDA beta review.

I like those words.

Polarization

Please don’t tell me this is the finished “review” of what Darkfall is.

I sincerely hope this is just a preview of the full review, if not this is a joke and an insult to the community.

GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Polarization


Please don’t tell me this is the finished “review” of what Darkfall is.
I sincerely hope this is just a preview of the full review, if not this is a joke and an insult to the community.

 

No worries Polar, many realise at this point no matter how much you are given it will never be enough. Isn't this exactly what you asked for? You and Ten and Arcken wanted someone outside of Aventurine to play and review DarkFall. Someone credible, such as MMORPG.com or a gaming Magazine. Unless I am mistaken MMORPG Italia is basicaly an Italian MMORPG.com.  So the beta comments were a joke, and the very thing that you and your brethren have asked for is a joke. The video is a joke, the screen shots are a joke..... I doubt that you having the game installed on your comp and running would be enough lol.

 

Anyways, You guys got what you asked for and you guys are the ones that said that would be enough. So with that I guess we can expect Arcken, Ten and you to cut back now? I mean this was the criteria you guys set for you to do so. This is exactly what you guys asked for. So what say you? Exactly what you asked for isn't enough either? Or are you guys now going to refrain a bit and wait now?

Polarization

Your reply was completely irrelevant to my question, so ill repeat it again.

Is this the finished review of everything they showed them, or is it only a preview of the not yet finished review that will be released later, I cant find a clear answer on this.

Not sure if I can make it any clearer.

AnsgarIsen

You are perfectly right, it indeed is what you see it as. Well not exactly, as it's a hasty preview of the preview to come (a review you will see when/if DF went gold).

They just wanted to put out some rough first impression in order to provide all those fellows sitting and aiting at home a liitle bit of info while they're still on site. the preview in more depth is following, this was clearly stated on the website.

Mazer14

 

Here's their actual English version:

http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/forum/2620242-post3.html

 

Originally posted by Polarization


Your reply was completely irrelevant to my question, so ill repeat it again.
Is this the finished review of everything they showed them, or is it only a preview of the not yet finished review that will be released later, I cant find a clear answer on this.
Not sure if I can make it any clearer.

 

I dunno, I think they just pushed this 'preview' out as soon as possible (hence the forum format) to give people the story asap. I'd imagine they'll do a more indepth cover unless the NDA restricts that.

mcpoopypantz

Originally posted by Polarization


Your reply was completely irrelevant to my question, so ill repeat it again.
Is this the finished review of everything they showed them, or is it only a preview of the not yet finished review that will be released later, I cant find a clear answer on this.
Not sure if I can make it any clearer.

 

Preview of a non-finished review... happy??

TenSpotting

Now you know ths interview and review is full of crap just based on their comments regarding how good the graphics are.

The graphics in those screenshots look terrible. They literally look like something from pre 2002. They look far worse than AC2 which was out in 2002.

 This game is so doomed lol

brostyn

"In two words: it's an entirely new approach to Massive Multiplayer Gaming, and this is what the community expects. "

 

That's the review? Are you kidding me?

 

The review goes exactly like this:

 

Controls are complex. Graphics are amazing. Goblins replaces rats, and are complex(because they run when they're in trouble or "dodge" attacks just like every other game out there). You push buttons to cast spells, then click on the target(just like every other game). It even reviews the opening of windows. Like that is some awesome feature( just like every other game).

How can you not see this as a shill?

dirtknap69

Originally posted by Polarization


Please don’t tell me this is the finished “review” of what Darkfall is.
I sincerely hope this is just a preview of the full review, if not this is a joke and an insult to the community.

 

since when does anyone get "full reviews" done on game betas? not just that - who expects a "full review" of a sandbox MMO in beta to be done in a single day's play?

 

personally i think the non-stop panty-twisting and hair-splitting going on in these preview threads is a joke and an insult to common sense.

lobster99

so brostyn i have to ask ya what game do you play or plan to play where you dont target what you want to attack and push a button or click the mouse ? or does your computer read your thoughts ? wait maybe you would rather have it so you have to ram a probe up your ass to get the game to work 

no look i'm no fan of this game or any game really if its fun i'll play

but please some times i think alot of posters here forget its a game just like the games we played before and just like the games we will play after sure a few things may pop up new from time to time but really i dont know what some of you expect

 

 

brostyn

Originally posted by lobster99


so brostyn i have to ask ya what game do you play or plan to play where you dont target what you want to attack and push a button or click the mouse ? or does your computer read your thoughts ? wait maybe you would rather have it so you have to ram a probe up your ass to get the game to work 
no look i'm no fan of this game or any game really if its fun i'll play
but please some times i think alot of posters here forget its a game just like the games we played before and just like the games we will play after sure a few things may pop up new from time to time but really i dont know what some of you expect
 
 

WTF are you talking about? Read what I posted again until you comprehend words. Where in the world did I imply that the computer should read my thoughts. I was making fun of the fact that the reviewer was calling that system innovative. L2read

lobster99

i read just fine thanks for your concern

what the hell do you want what would be nnovative you stated that its the same old same old but guess what every game i have played since wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back to when i started playing games has pretty much been the same control wise and the basic concept hasnt changed go kill things and get exp to level or go kill things and get exp raising skills sure the graphic level  has changed AI has gotten smarter over the years (bearly) but again tell me what you do now in games that you didnt do 10 or ven 15 years ago control wise or charater developemt wise?

what exactly do you need to see for the game to be nnovative really i'l like to know

Thoric485

Next week: Lots of photos and a video.

kingris

mmmmm i have been following this game for a long time

but now, i can just smell the release

Polarization

Here’s my favourite parts of the review.

Vaporware? Not at all!

Let’s move to one of the most discussed aspect of the game: the graphic quality. Well, this won’t be a problem at all: it’s absolutely excellent, fluid and detailed.

Then we move to the sound, an element which we didn’t analyze from the soundtrack side because we preferred to concentrate on the environmental effects: these are absolutely detailed and realistic.

In conclusion: Darkfall exists, is really innovative and seems to confirm his plans. While we were trying it, here in Athens, we didn’t have any surprise, just confirmations: the game is really interesting, we’ve never seen something like this 'till now, and seems to be ready to realize its promises.

In few words: it’s a completely new approach to the Massive Multiplayer Gaming, and this is exactly what the communities are waiting for. Maybe it’s too soon to say this will be the next Ultima Online but it has all the elements in the right place.

brostyn

Originally posted by lobster99


i read just fine thanks for your concern
what the hell do you want what would be nnovative you stated that its the same old same old but guess what every game i have played since wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back to when i started playing games has pretty much been the same control wise and the basic concept hasnt changed go kill things and get exp to level or go kill things and get exp raising skills sure the graphic level  has changed AI has gotten smarter over the years (bearly) but again tell me what you do now in games that you didnt do 10 or ven 15 years ago control wise or charater developemt wise?
what exactly do you need to see for the game to be nnovative really i'l like to know

 

How about not calling a game innovative (in his own words " a new approach to MMO gaming"), then proceed to talk about the systems that every other game has in place? How about talking about why Darkfall is innovative? Oh, yea, because this review was a shill.

What is your agenda? I've said mine; this "review" is a blantant shill if you use common sense. You seem to agree  that DF is not innovative like the reviewer tried to impress upon us. What are you trying to argue about? I agree!!

lobster99

okay i'll play along

honeslty i'm not a darkfall expert but

if what they say is true

AI that spawns grows builds villages and loots players is something i have never seen before

mounted combat is something i have never seen before ( i think aoc has it but to be honest i bought it and couldnt get into it so i only played like 4 hours)

skills that degrage over time i have never experenceed ( tho it makes sence ya know use it or lose it )

so i guess to me if those things were incuded then i guess to me the game would have some new and inovated features but see thats the whip cream on the cake see  at the end of the day all the games are cake its just when the baker puts a few cherries in the frosting do we get excited

 

Polarization

Originally posted by brostyn


 
How about not calling a game innovative (in his own words " a new approach to MMO gaming"), then proceed to talk about the systems that every other game has in place? How about talking about why Darkfall is innovative? Oh, yea, because this review was a shill.
What is your agenda? I've said mine; this "review" is a blantant shill if you use common sense. You seem to agree  that DF is not innovative like the reviewer tried to impress upon us. What are you trying to argue about? I agree!!

 

Here are some of the “really innovative“ ,“really interesting“, things that are a “completely new approach” that we have never seen something like till now, that are exactly what we have been waiting for.

You log in, choose your preferred race between the six available

you can modify everything using a lot of sliders

Then you can choose the starting area

You familiarize yourself with the UI

You familiarize yourself with the controls

Then you take the first quest from the starting NPC to Gather 0 of 4 r_Goblin Axe

And then you go to the starting Areas that are full of Goblins.

These are what Aventurine presents as the “rats” of Darkfall.

You familiarize yourself with the combat system.

You fight the Goblins with ranged , mêlée or spells.

While you are doing this you can enjoy the sounds effects, the graphics and the weather effects.

 

lobster99

Polarization i enjoy your posts alot really i do but i have to ask yet again what do you want from the game other then for it to be fun?

i mean really are you that upset that to the devs whatever approce they are taking to the game they concider new??

is that what everyone is upset over they they feel its something new and alot of people feel its just the same core wrapped in a diffrent bow?

i laughed at some of the more exuberent posters who claimed the game was so "hardcore" we would need a seatbelt to play i've enjoyed the debate over the state of the game and if it will launch this year

but to rag on it because it isnt "new" enough i guess i dont get that part

 

Polarization

I’m purely expressing my incredulity at the credibility of this “review” in a satirical manner.

I’m interested in this game and I want to see new information about it, but this Review is an insult to the intelligence of the community in my opinion.

Look at all the wonderful things they say about this game, then look at the actual content of the review.

They could have been talking about the starting area of any generic fantasy game.

They did not even do any PVP, let alone mention any of the major features of this game, only quests and killing mobs.

Then they have the audacity to claim this is the most innovative, interesting completely new game that we have never seen before, that is total BS.

 

lobster99

okay i see your point and i will agree i would have loved to see some meat on that porkchop

i for one would love to see a bit more about the crafting how its broken up i would love to know is it just a generic you can craft type thing or does each "realm" have its own skill like weaponsmiths armorsmith ect

do you get the ability to make new thinsg just from skilling up or do you have to go out find say a steel dagger and learn to make it from the example you found ?

can you take a mundane weapon off a mob or another player and say "sharpen" it or add to it to make it better

i would love to have shown that aspect of the game

Polarization

If you read the beta report 1 section on crafting and look at the latest screenshots, I think you will be able to get a very good idea about how crafting is implemented in Darkfall.

When I said major features I was referring to things like city building, city siegeing, 200v200 fights, naval combat, mounted combat,500 skills and 500 spells, clan management, NPC pets and hirelings, dynamic mob spawns, Racial warfare, alignment system, resource and territorial control etc.

My opinion of why these were not shown for this review was because they are still not implemented yet or they are not tested properly yet.

So either all or most of this will be implemented and tested over the next few weeks and be ready for launch.

Or all or most of it will not be implemented and tested over the next few weeks and wont be ready for launch.

Or Darkfall is not launching this year.

DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Polarization


If you read the beta report 1 section on crafting and look at the latest screenshots, I think you will be able to get a very good idea about how crafting is implemented in Darkfall.
When I said major features I was referring to things like city building, city siegeing, 200v200 fights, naval combat, mounted combat,500 skills and 500 spells, clan management, NPC pets and hirelings, dynamic mob spawns, Racial warfare, alignment system, resource and territorial control etc.
My opinion of why these were not shown for this review was because they are still not implemented yet or they are not tested properly yet.
So either all or most of this will be implemented and tested over the next few weeks and be ready for launch.
Or all or most of it will not be implemented and tested over the next few weeks and wont be ready for launch.
Or Darkfall is not launching this year.

 

they are implemented yet because the game is feature complete and thous in Beta testing now, soon more and more of these features will  be enabled.

Or the testers didn't make it to test those complex features now , or they just no break the NDA if they had ..

in gameplay  video with in-game footage we have seen city building, city siegeing, massive battles, naval combat, mounted combat also