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Is "Darkfall" the biggest joke in the MMO Industry?
It was announced that the game would be released in 2008 and also stated that open beta would be this month. First closed beta came around and the only people allowed in the beta were a small group of trusted friends, most likely only about 20-30 people. Which is fine with me however they mislead the community into thinking that mass beta invites had been sent out.
Now it's crunch time and even though it was also stated that open beta would have ended by December not only has open beta NOT begun but the devs haven't mentioned a date at all. I have no problems with delays and a company not meeting a date even though they specifically promised that they would but I do have a problem with them completely ignoring the subject and expecting us to forget that they said it.
The mods are now deleting posts from the forum and banning people for pointing out that the Darkfall devs are hiding something. Why are they so afraid to conduct a legit closed beta that includes more people than just their personal friends? Why did a small company like Aventurine refuse an interview with tentonhammer.com a week ago?
Here is my post that got me banned from their forums, it was a reply to another thread:
[quote]People were warned and didn't listen. I saw the signs last month when the lies started piling up but people wanted to wait until the last minute...wait until December 15th, it'll be the same story. December 31th... same shit. The game is real and it'll be out eventually but don't be surprised if the features are dramatically different than what you expected.
The Darkfall devs are HIDING something because they know a large amount of the community will be disappointed when they find out. Watch how lame city building is, how simplistic crafting turns out to be, et cetera...[/quote]
Like I said, I personally believe that the game will be out within the next couple months but it's highly unlikely that the features they promised will be delivered upon. I only wish that more of the posters there weren't such sheep and they would mount together and ask hard questions instead accepting the words of Tasos as messages from god.
I've been a member of their community since 2003 and I've supported the game throughout the vaporware accusations and all of the other criticism. The game is indeed real however it looks like it will not be the game we were promised and the hardcore fans such as myself will be sorely disappointed.
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Maybe they hit some problems during closed beta? They need more time to fix it, its a small company.
And thats not a opinion.
And yes! DF is a joke in the MMO Industry.
The game hasn't been released yet so I won't rush to judgement but I will name a couple others that should get the award.. W.I.S.H,DnL and Tabula Rasa I could name more but what's the point. Play or don't play pretty simple, Right? UO and SWG are a joke right now so...
Yeah which is understandable. The problem is they miss dates and don't tell us, they ignore the questions entirely and pretend that what they said before never existed and we're not allowed to bring it up. They expect us to be sheeps and not say anything. Users like myself who have supported them all of these years are part of the problem but even a lot of us are starting to have issues with Aventurine now that the lies are piling on.
What happens when the game comes out and there are features missing, bugs, or exploits and we're sitting there posting about it and the moderators ban us and the devs ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist?
You're post, while being valid, is littered with 'seems' and 'ifs' and 'I thinks'. Those are fine, but they do not prove anything and they say very little. Also, your post on their forums is not exactly edifying so it does not surprise them that they took action. Give it a month - if no open beta and release happens, then there are grounds for back of a better term, justice. Now, it is THEIR game and NOT ours, and they can do/take away/add ANYTHING they want WHEN they want and HOW they want. Therefore, if they did take out city building entirely and the open looting, I'd be 100% okay with that, however, I would not be okay with the fact that they lied/decieved.
Blessings,
MMO migrant.
Maybe they aren't expecting you to forget about it, maybe they just don't give a shit. I can't say I blame them tbh as it's not as if you have ordered it and are waiting for delivery.
Start complaining when you have paid for something in my opinion, until then it's just bs.
As for people being sheep, it appears to me that people flaming the game are the one's jumping on the bandwagon. Why is this? Well because they are judging something before they have actually had the opportunity to play it and have no idea whatsoever how it will turn out. They make wild claims based on no evidence at all and try to dress it up as fact based on some kind of misplaced sense of entitlement. Some of the fans do the same but at least it is for a positive purpose in their own minds rather than just to complain when there is nothing to complain about.
Who has ever heard of a rational person complaining about a product they haven't paid for? Very very very sad imo.
You need a joke ? 2004... SWG a promising game with 300k subs , 32 professions, amazing crafting , working economy ..
and $OE decide to....
DOWNGRADE it...
to oblivion lol
Now its a piece of shit with 10k subs lol
i always see developer try to improve and add to a game $OE should get the reward for the first time in game history someone is so stupid and DOWNGRADE a game and take away from it lol
the verb for "to pull biggest joke in MMO hitory" is called = "to NGE" something
there you have it
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I dont know if that is your sig or what... but the dropping of the religous bomb in a video game forums is uncalled for... we are here to talk about games not about religion in any of its forms unless it is bibleman the game and how to use the "god" mode.... seriously dude... uncool...
Funny, you know just how many are in beta huh? Well I'd like to know how you found that out...
And no, Age of Conan is still the biggest joke in the industry, followed by Mortal Online.
Darkfall Travelogues!
It's in his Sig.. and it doesn't violate any ToS or CoC.. so.. if you don't like it.. then just block him.
And Darkfall isn't a joke in the industry. It's a farce.
Currently playing Real Life..
http://i36.tinypic.com/2uyod3k.gif
For all your stalking needs..
http://www.plurk.com/Random_
It's in his Sig.. and it doesn't violate any ToS or CoC.. so.. if you don't like it.. then just block him.
And Darkfall isn't a joke in the industry. It's a farce.
Personally, I find talking about someone's religious sig more entertaining at this point. Bashing Darkfall has become so boring, I'd rather use "Darkfall" as being synonymous to using the word "farce". I think its clear at this point, until they pull out a product that delivers on all they've promised, we can use their game title as a new pop-culture word.
Hell, I think having a Darkfall sig at this point is bordering "sin" and compelling damnation upon us all! Repent!!!
Darkfall is no where close to a joke.
It has 200k+ members on there forums and it isn't even in open beta... I remember before they announced on there site about beta they had only about 60-70k members on there site after the announcment that number grew like fire and continues to grow thats without heavy advertising its all been from word of mouth pretty much. Aside from that many of its followers have been following it for way over a year. Thats pretty impressive in my opinoin.
Darkfall found its niche before it even went into beta. All the mmos out right now are cookie cutters or they just suck. There hasn't been a really great sand box type mmo since UO. UO has been way outdated and there is still a decent size of players that play freeshards that mimic old UO.
i dont think my friend knows the devs personaly
Dude most of those are abandon members. I have a membership as well and I haven't even thought about going there in years. 200k but only maybe 25k active.
hahaha you hate mortal too that game throws reds flags all over
Dude most of those are abandon members. I have a membership as well and I haven't even thought about going there in years. 200k but only maybe 25k active.
i would say probly 150k are active but dont follow actuvly which is fine emo they know about the game that all that matters
bigger joke then SOE
LMAO ok buddy
It's a tossup between SOE and Aventurine. SOE for ruining what Darkfall's attempting to become...And Aventurine for ruining their customer's confidence by keeping them in the dark, and lying.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Dude most of those are abandon members. I have a membership as well and I haven't even thought about going there in years. 200k but only maybe 25k active.
40k registered in August, 200k registered now.
Yup, they're all just ancient accounts no one uses.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Get over yourself. Nobody cares. This politically-correct culture where every crybaby needs to be catered to is ridiculous. Don't like it? Don't read it. The world will go on without your approval.
This is the one time I agree with Random_Mage on something. Yes, I took a screenshot of this Random.
Edit* -- Yes I guess I should be on topic too, as to keep the black marker away from my posts.
I guess it depends on where you apply joke to; joke of a game or joke of a community or joke of a managing company.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
As an agnostic, I'm not one to believe in a God. But someone posting their religious opinion in their signature is their right. I personally don't agree with his "opinion" but he is sure able to hold it...And I'd love to debate him on the subject
EDIT* (attempting to rein in the topic-horse)
After much decision, I've decided that SOE is the biggest joke in the industry. They, unlike Aventurine sported a "huge" amount of knowledge of the inner-workings of MMOs and their playerbase, prior to SWG. Seeing as how far SWG has fallen because of their ignorant, greed-filled actions; I've no other choice but to label them the utter disgrace of the industry.
We've yet to see how far Aventurine has fallen, perhaps they aren't lying, but if they are, this race will be a close one.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Wee. Another thread with nonsense information, countered with estimated numbers and other nonsense. Where do you guys come up with all your "facts"?
I made them all up and published them in Wikipedia.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
As an agnostic, I'm not one to believe in a God. But someone posting their religious opinion in their signature is their right. I personally don't agree with his "opinion" but he is sure able to hold it...And I'd love to debate him on the subject
EDIT* (attempting to rein in the topic-horse)
After much decision, I've decided that SOE is the biggest joke in the industry. They, unlike Aventurine sported a "huge" amount of knowledge of the inner-workings of MMOs and their playerbase, prior to SWG. Seeing as how far SWG has fallen because of their ignorant, greed-filled actions; I've no other choice but to label them the utter disgrace of the industry.
We've yet to see how far Aventurine has fallen, perhaps they aren't lying, but if they are, this race will be a close one.
even if they lied, they don't took your money to develop something that destroys your belongings behind your back..thats incredible cheep behaviour ..unheard of before and after ...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Yeah, SOE's tact in that instance was on par with the DnL scam I've read so much about.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.