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seriously...and you wonder why everyone thinks you are a troll...even other skeptics.
not flaming you here, im just trying to point out since you seem to honestly think you arent a troll...what some of the things you do that others consider trolling.
Wow.. I guess you have bernie blocked too.
Read the bottom of her posts where she says kthxbai. Then you'll know what Im talking about. It's a dismissal. Its how you win internet arguments.. seems I"m not the only one who's not reading all of the posts..
And.. it seems the more you type, the less I care about what you type. All you've done is show your true blind follower colors.. And according to MMORPG's trolling policy, attempting to get a response out of me, or insulting me is trolling.. so.. you are technically a troll as well.
Oh.. and I'm going to block you as well. You don't provide any sort of no biased view of darkfall, You're no better than originalegg as far as "What?? you don't love DARKFALL??? TROLL!!"
Trolling would be making a thread that you claim in the title that it has had 13 years of development when it is know that it has been 5 years....or at the most if you nitpick...7 years (about to be 8).
Block me, would make things a lot easier if you never responded to my posts.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
seriously...and you wonder why everyone thinks you are a troll...even other skeptics.
not flaming you here, im just trying to point out since you seem to honestly think you arent a troll...what some of the things you do that others consider trolling.
Wow.. I guess you have bernie blocked too.
Read the bottom of her posts where she says kthxbai. Then you'll know what Im talking about. It's a dismissal. Its how you win internet arguments.. seems I"m not the only one who's not reading all of the posts..
And.. it seems the more you type, the less I care about what you type. All you've done is show your true blind follower colors.. And according to MMORPG's trolling policy, attempting to get a response out of me, or insulting me is trolling.. so.. you are technically a troll as well.
Oh.. and I'm going to block you as well. You don't provide any sort of no biased view of darkfall, You're no better than originalegg as far as "What?? you don't love DARKFALL??? TROLL!!"
Trolling would be making a thread that you claim in the title that it has had 13 years of development when it is know that it has been 5 years....or at the most if you nitpick...7 years (about to be 8).
Block me, would make things a lot easier if you never responded to my posts.
Wow.. it's dropping.. faster and faster.
the post I wrote (if you actually read the link.. which you didn't) says that Claus was thinking of darkfall 6 years ago(from 2001, so that's 1995, in case you aren't good with numbers). I didn't say development, did I? Do yourself a favor before you type from now on. Read what you are flaming. Does that sound like an awesome, idea?? And for tomorrow.. we'll discuss labeling people..
you really do amaze me though.. you pick your truths and run with them.. I hope you never pick scissors as a truth.. or you'll be screwed!.
"Luckily I know that while you make nonsnese baiting threads that get locked....threads I make get sticked by the mods on this forum...." -imbant (greatest board warrior EVER)
Darkfall Countdown: http://darkfallreleasedate.com/
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
When I walk onto a car dealership, I'm a potential customer. When I walk into a Best Buy, I'm a potential customer. That doesn't mean the salespeople get to act like jerks and ignore me until I purchase their product.
If they aren't helpful, if I'm not given answers to my questions to my satisfation and if I'm not treated with respect, I take my money and find someone who will.
For some reason MMORPGs have gotten away with treating their customers in ways that no other market could. That's because the MMORPG community has let them.
MMORPGs are evolving. Whether people like it or not, they've started to enter mainstream gaming markets and now their developers have to deal with the same service issues that every other industry learned decades ago.
And frankly, that's a good thing.
(And when I said "We'll see in a month' I wasn't agreeing with you either. I said MAYBE they will. MAYBE they won't either. We'll all see soon) .
Theo,
I see where you are comming from. You make some good points that I agree with, and others that I personally disagre with that I feel are subjective.
You are one of the very few healthy skeptics on these boards so hopefully you know im not trying to insult you in my above responses. Im going to stop the quote + new color system because honestly that shit drives me insane when trying to respond that way.
I think the bottom line is that what matters is we are all gamers (que music) and that we are all just hoping a good game comes out and that the genre stops being so terrible.
I need to stop worrying so much about this forum because it really is wasting my time, because very few of the skeptics actually take the time to support their arguements like you do. (see others in this thread that are just here to bait).
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Amen to that........... kthxbai
For some reason MMORPGs have gotten away with treating their customers in ways that no other market could. That's because the MMORPG community has let them.
Again, the main point is that MMORPGs have been mistreating customers AFTER release. That is all that matters.
AoC reached into the pockets of the community, took our money and said lol F U we lied but maybe we'll put those features in later just keep paying us.
Absolutly agree that mmos get away with too much shit post release.
Prerelease thoguh....they owe us NOTHING.
It is like following the release of a new movie. The producers owe you NOTHING. NOTHING.
They market the product when it is almost ready to be put in theaters.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
This is so true yet people believe/think the gaming industry owes them constant updates.
This is so true yet people believe/think the gaming industry owes them constant updates.
Yup its a far too common mistake. And for most of them, they are so spoiled that they refuse to even entertain the idea about it.
Im all for communication. Hell I love when companies keep us updated in detail about every update. I LOVED the warhammer newletter that detailed each class as it was developed, the races, the cities, etc...that was one of the coolest things a developer could do.
But all that had NOTHING to do with the ability to develop a mmo, quality of product on release, or communication post release. Which is the point im trying to make.
It was great that WAR did that. It was good marketing. But it wasnt necessary and certainly wasnt deserved, but they did it anyways and its good communication, im not denying that.
But you cant fault Aventurine for doing it differently.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Well said, you have warmed my heart of ice.
Well said, you have warmed my heart of ice.
I was actually trying to freeze your hot heart with a cool island song. But whatever works
(+5 points if you understand the reference)
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Southpark, IIRC