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Darkfall is going to get 300-350k players from launch
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I'll go with the estimates of 300-500K max, because I don't believe the MMORPG gaming world has any more players than that with the stomach for a FFA PVP w/Full looting game. (that aren't in some free to play game)
They've been acclimated to EQ, WOW and all the other games that let you PVP with no risk or reward.
Its not a reflection on DF, its a reflection on the MMO community at large.
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Why are you repeating yourself? I backed up what you said....
Judging by the activity on this forum and the marketing they've done, I would say they could easily have 5 million people playing on one server after the first month. Give or take a million.
5 mill on one server? lulz
Take another look, its the same small group of people argueing the same points over and over again.
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I registered when they said they were going to have guild beta.
Since then, I've been married, divorced, married, had three kids, moved several times and started a post military career. What have you done since registering? heh.
lol...well I certainly haven't done all that. But I did play WAR for a while. *sigh*
So what you are saying is that there are also a lot of 'grandfather' registered accounts from long ago that have probably forgoten all about the game by now. I hadn't considered that, but it is a distinct possibility. Not that I think that will change the numbers drastically.
If they follow through with the whole 'try before you buy' thing, it could end up being detrimental to the game's continued financial development.
A lot of forumites like to talk to talk and come off as all super hardcore when it comes to competitive PvP games, but the reality of the situation is that a lot of crying is going to be going on once the game goes live. You just have to look in any WoW or WAR forums to see all the nerf cries made by those who have had their arse handed to them in what could be best described as 'relaxed' PvP games. When same people hit a game that is going to end up being a little more brutal, well, the internet will awash with emo tears and many threads filled with much wailing and gnashing of teeth. And I suspect that many will not make it beyond the free trial period, let alone pay a subscription.
Letting people try the game before buying it may end up being a double-edged sword for adventurine.
I would say that they'll have a line of credit waiting in the wings if things get out of hand sub-wise to accommodate the influx of cannon fodder
if they get 5 million people in the first month il give you $5 million ....DEAL?
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if they get 5 million people in the first month il give you $5 million ....DEAL?
if darkfall manages to get 5 million subs that would mean that theyl have as much as wow has in subs in both EU and NA since 6 million subs on wow are asian that would mean it would take oever wow completely witch will never happend ever ever...... ever lol
Darkfall will get....one Billion players!
lmao this went from a simple question to :" it will have 1 mil subs" , " no u fanboy they will have 10k"
to op:they will have more that 1 server up and i think it will take ~1-5 days to stabilize the servers
if they get 5 million people in the first month il give you $5 million ....DEAL?
if darkfall manages to get 5 million subs that would mean that theyl have as much as wow has in subs in both EU and NA since 6 million subs on wow are asian that would mean it would take oever wow completely witch will never happend ever ever...... ever lol
WoW has 12 million subscribers and Darkfall is a much better game so I think they could easily get 5-7 million subscribers in one year or less.
Maybe first week they will only have about one million players but after people tell their friends how good the game is, they will get more people to join.
I'm not sure about what they will do with servers. Maybe they need to open a second one? How many million can play on one server without too much lag?
if they get 5 million people in the first month il give you $5 million ....DEAL?
if darkfall manages to get 5 million subs that would mean that theyl have as much as wow has in subs in both EU and NA since 6 million subs on wow are asian that would mean it would take oever wow completely witch will never happend ever ever...... ever lol
WoW has 12 million subscribers and Darkfall is a much better game so I think they could easily get 5-7 million subscribers in one year or less.
Maybe first week they will only have about one million players but after people tell their friends how good the game is, they will get more people to join.
I'm not sure about what they will do with servers. Maybe they need to open a second one? How many million can play on one server without too much lag?
Yeah for 7 million i think they need another one, or?
if they get 5 million people in the first month il give you $5 million ....DEAL?
if darkfall manages to get 5 million subs that would mean that theyl have as much as wow has in subs in both EU and NA since 6 million subs on wow are asian that would mean it would take oever wow completely witch will never happend ever ever...... ever lol
WoW has 12 million subscribers and Darkfall is a much better game so I think they could easily get 5-7 million subscribers in one year or less.
Maybe first week they will only have about one million players but after people tell their friends how good the game is, they will get more people to join.
I'm not sure about what they will do with servers. Maybe they need to open a second one? How many million can play on one server without too much lag?
lol and then well invent space ships and fly to other planets and meet energy based life forms the odds of that happening is the same as df getting 6-7 mill subs
if they get 5 million people in the first month il give you $5 million ....DEAL?
if darkfall manages to get 5 million subs that would mean that theyl have as much as wow has in subs in both EU and NA since 6 million subs on wow are asian that would mean it would take oever wow completely witch will never happend ever ever...... ever lol
WoW has 12 million subscribers and Darkfall is a much better game so I think they could easily get 5-7 million subscribers in one year or less.
Maybe first week they will only have about one million players but after people tell their friends how good the game is, they will get more people to join.
I'm not sure about what they will do with servers. Maybe they need to open a second one? How many million can play on one server without too much lag?
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Yeah, I think so too. In two years the entire population of the planet will be playing Darkfall.
EVE Online, the most succesful "hardcore" PVP game, has, what 300K subscribers now? Slowly built over many years?
Shadowbane, the last attempt at a major FFA PVP fantasy game, never broke 50K.
The FFA servers for other games (EQ, Asheron's Call) are underpopulated, if they're still up at all.
SB will probably launch big, because everyone's looking for a new game. If it has more than 200K a year from now, I will be very surprised. Anyone expecting "millions" of subscribers is either lying to get a reaction, or seriously deluded.
My prediction? Launch to 500K, dwindle VERY fast, have a hardcore group of fans who will keep it going for 5-6 years or so.
Lol, no way. There are not enough FFA PvP players in the EU and the US. Even when they launch Darkfall in Asia they couldn't get a total of one billion players. It's never going to happen. If Korean people like Darkfall, it's most likely going to settle to something between 100-150 million players. I doubt it will go any higher than that before they release an expansion or something.
You troll!
Darkfall will soon cover the globe in it's leetnees. Global economies will have to shift to a Darkfall based currency. Tasos will be elected the President of the United States, two years before the world unites under the Darkfall Empire.
You troll!
Darkfall will soon cover the globe in it's leetnees. Global economies will have to shift to a Darkfall based currency. Tasos will be elected the President of the United States, two years before the world unites under the Darkfall Empire.
FFA PVP with full loot just wont fly, Ive said it before, a good portion of the hardcore fans have no past experience with ffa pvp games, and I think most will quit early on.
Well i think they get +500K from starters and it will grow on a good release to way over a million subs quite fast.
There is so many potential buyers lurking arround and the MMORPG market is a growing business.
Imagine how many themepark players that want to expand there experience into something harder then there traditional grind one.
LMAO...
Thanks for the laugh. This is a a fringe game and even Aventurine acknowledges that. Do you know how many people will be scared away by the open PVP and full looting...
No... this game might hit 200K subscribers twice that if they are extremely lucky... That is not a bad thing, history in this industry has shown us that even 50K subscriptions are enough to keep a game running.
The bulk of players out there now are not hardcore PVPers. They like PvE and structured PvP... To think somehow DF will pull off what no other game (except WoW) has done is delusional.
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Why are you repeating yourself? I backed up what you said....
I know I'm being lazy but are there official links to this? I must admit I was under the impression it was one world, one server ala EVE. I also thought it was only one char is this wrong also?
I think I remember reading, back in the day the playing pop was around 2-5% of tot server pop on average (exl release times and xpacks). EVE has 250k+ and had a max number of 30k (for china release), so if the max players on a DF server is 30k its unlikely we'll ever have more than 3k on at any time. With a world that is supposed to be so massive how will we find anyone to kill?
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As much as I want this game to succeed, its not going to pull WoW numbers. This is as harsh and different as games can get, and frankly, most WoW players just won't be able to fathom it.
That, and most people overestimate the size of the MMO community. WoW has millions, but those millions aren't part of the market pool. The way WoW works makes sure, they are WoW players, and they will STAY WoW players. The real MMO market is much smaller, and 500k would be considered a great success.
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Why are you repeating yourself? I backed up what you said....
I know I'm being lazy but are there official links to this? I must admit I was under the impression it was one world, one server ala EVE. I also thought it was only one char is this wrong also?
I think I remember reading, back in the day the playing pop was around 2-5% of tot server pop on average (exl release times and xpacks). EVE has 250k+ and had a max number of 30k (for china release), so if the max players on a DF server is 30k its unlikely we'll ever have more than 3k on at any time. With a world that is supposed to be so massive how will we find anyone to kill?
I think there might be a quote from a looong time ago about 1 server, but there hasn't been that kind of statement in a few years. All I've read concerning servers for the past 2 years or so is "10,000 concurrent users, about 30,000 on each server."
But yes, it is one character per server.
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I have to agree with Signus here, most WoW players have never set foot into the harsh reality that FFA PVP really is. Id also like to point out that it will not be a game for solo players, they wont survive, ffa pvp has shown time and time again, safety in numbers. I think quite a few people will have to find this out the hard way by getting repeatedly ganked first.