Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know we are aware of this and we've been getting in touch with the right people. We don't have anything official to say yet but stay tuned and we'll have something tomorrow at the latest.
I'm playing Atlantica Online right now and enjoying it. It's a micro-transaction game. I haven't bought anything yet and don't see myself doing so anytime soon(next 6 months to a year, if I stay that long: the way these so called "AAA" companies are acting I just might. It is free, afterall).
That said, I do no, in my mind and preferences, see TOR as a micro-transaction game, with what they have stated and alluded to for gameplay so far, interesting me at all now. Additionally, as I predicted for myself in an earlier post, I have lost a great measure of respect for Bioware.
Thanks OP for finding this article and posting it. It just solidified one thing for me: play not this game I will. Heh, the MMO gaming industry leadership, to me, is about as clueless as the leadership of the American automobile industry. They make these crap decisions when making games, invest all this money and time and expect the gamers to bail them out with a box sale. And the only thing that will stop them is the one thing that I don't see happening: stop buying their games.
Help us indie development companies. You're my only hope.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
I have no problems with the rmt model but we should all wait for more in-depth details before jumping off the deep end here. I'm still excited about the game and can't wait to play
Instead, the title will be gain revenue from a microtransactional model. Shacknews reports this surprising tidbit from a conference call held by the mega-publisher earlier today. Said CEO John Riccitiello, "The Star Wars online MMO [is a] mid-session game, microtransaction-based. You'll be hearing more about those in the February [conference] call."
Nadia, thank you for the link. It just makes me wonder more where the previous statement to Warhammer came from by Bioware.
As for the "conference" call? Ooooooo, a conference call! High Technology.
I am speechless. I am one of the guys who never expected SWG2 from Bioware (not even Koster-esque), but it sounds like they are going lowest common denominater on this cycle. I have never played a "Knights" title, but I did play Mass Effect, and minus the complete BABYLON 5 RIPOFF, it was okay, but never great. In fact I spent more time on elevators than I did just playing the game. I think the only thing I found "touching" about Mass Effect was Seth Green's toon.
So, essentially, within two months of eachother, both MMO Star Wars implementations have gone micro-transaction. The one no one wants to play(Christmas Past) vs. the one people will hate themselves for playing (Christmas Yet to Come).
(This is not directed towards a player, a developer, or a fan of Star Wars Galaxies, or Bioware's Fans or Crew):
The Intellectual property of Star Wars has been milked, squeezed, dried up, and raisoned in the Arizona sun. I would never call for a Bioware boycotte, they make decent games, but as for Lucas? All things aside, I am happy my kids will gain more from watching Star Trek.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know we are aware of this and we've been getting in touch with the right people. We don't have anything official to say yet but stay tuned and we'll have something tomorrow at the latest.
and there will be an update soon
SeanDahlberg
Personally, I'd prefer if the topic stayed on the pros and cons of microtransactions and your constructive criticism of points made. Let's not make this into personal assaults on each other. We will have word on this topic (the article in question, that is) and on something else
Now Sean needs to leave the office and find some food... I'll be back in a bit
I mean no offense to the MMORPG.com community. But I am going to be blunt..really blunt. I knew Lucas Arts would screw this up. Good job idiots.
The term "sell out" comes to mind for BioWare. World of Warcraft has 11 million players because they have integrity for the community of gamers. Do you think you could learn that? Mr. Lucas all your indie blood has been sucked up by the bastards you put in charge of your game division. They are out of touch with the North American and European MMORPG market. They are idiots. Bio Ware, EA, LA- sorry...but no thanks...Pass. I am so ashamed of BioWare. Lucas Arts can kiss my ass. And EA is a joke. You were all right about the merger. You were all right. Screw Star Wars for good.
I mean no offense to the MMORPG.com community.
Is this stating LucasArts/Bioware is targetting the Southeast Asian Market? Because given then the track record of those games a "story driven" MMO has less of a market there then here (North American, which differs from the Euro Market).
Perhaps you meant the South American market, or maybe the Central Asian (India, Russian), or Perhaps the Penguin Market (they are cheap, work for fish).
In every market, this IP needs to be removed.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
I have a feeling that the model will not be "pay for this item or that item" type of transactions simply because it will not work. I believe Bioware and even EA (to an extent) would realize this. However, what I expect is that it will be similar to how Blizzard is going to do the new Starcraft 2 game. And maybe something similar to Guild Wars but where each expansion/add-on is absolutely necessary to have.
I cannot really put what I am thinking into a good context but I think the micro-transactions will not be items and buffs and such, more about content/levels/etc.....
Hope that makes sense. And I am not defending it at ALL. I will not play, under any circumstances, any micro-transaction game. That includes Starcraft 2 as well.
if they go the Guild Wars direction i will not have a problem with it.........like think about this 30 dollars for expansion (around the quality of GWEN) every 6 months.....if the PvP is like how the DEVs say it is then i am all for it..Saves me money
each expansion is not necessary but really really good to have
There are just very few things which really make a MMO a no-no for me, and Microtransactions is definitely one of them. If SWTOR is going to this model, just no way in hell I am going to play it. End of debate for me.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
There are just very few things which really make a MMO a no-no for me, and Microtransactions is definitely one of them. If SWTOR is going to this model, just no way in hell I am going to play it. End of debate for me.
Completely, Agreed.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
I already voiced my disappointment on the forums. This was a major shock for me too.. and it's really made me anxious. It still depends. If it's like Guild Wars, then I'll be happy. If it's a fluff mall or costs for extra stuff like more inventory space, character slots, etc.. then I'll be "okay" with it. If it's an item mall, pay by the hour, pay to unlock most of the content.. then no no.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
Heh, almost feel bad for them. This kind of an announcement is like mmorpg suicide. Why did they even bother putting all that work into the project when they are just going to flush it down the toilet? A microtransaction model is a fallback, a last resort when you have no other choice. When you are out of options. When people think the game isn't good enough to pay with a regular monthly fee. To make it that way from the get go... well they must not have a lot of faith in their product.
What company deliberately tries to sever off a significant portion of their player base at this stage of development? Doesn't make sense. I refuse to believe they are so out of touch they don't realize the effect it has.
As long as there are other options out there, I have no reason to play a microtransaction model based game.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence. Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
Heh, almost feel bad for them. This kind of an announcement is like mmorpg suicide. Why did they even bother putting all that work into the project when they are just going to flush it down the toilet? A microtransaction model is a fallback, a last resort when you have no other choice. When you are out of options. When people think the game isn't good enough to pay with a regular monthly fee. To make it that way from the get go... well they must not have a lot of faith in their product. What company deliberately tries to sever off a significant portion of their player base at this stage of development? Doesn't make sense. I refuse to believe they are so out of touch they don't realize the effect it has. As long as there are other options out there, I have no reason to play a microtransaction model based game.
Yeah, since it has written "our game is not good enough to pay a fee for it" all over it. I makes me so pissed! Sometimes I wonder if there is a Blizzard agent in every damn MMO developing studio these days to make a seemingly endless series of dumb ideas?
I shudder recalling the horrible community GW had at least on the EU servers. ALL full of sex/porn talk, trash talk of freeloaders and aggro kiddies. Terrible.
EDIT: Funny to see how the thread about this matter on the official site is EXPLODING. Went up from 44 to 49 pages in about 90 seconds or so. XD
Looks like the shot themselves so many holes in their leg now, they can whistle Imperial March with the leg-bone by now. ><
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Well just another reason why this game is now not only just sticking to the usual MMO mold, they are now taking the worst thing about Eastern MMO's and implimenting that as well. Whats next?
_____________________________ At the turn of the century... In 2008... Cracked.com voted Roosevelt as the most badass President of all time.
Well just another reason why this game is now not only just sticking to the usual MMO mold, they are now taking the worst thing about Eastern MMO's and implimenting that as well. Whats next?
The announcement that there will only be 2 iconic classes, Light Jedi and Dark Jedi!
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike Loved: Star Wars Galaxies Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
very sad news, i'm not going to play a mircotransaction game or will never buy anything from bioware ever hehe
LOL man this and most of the other responses in this thread are SO typical of the imature, cry baby, wet diaper, mmo fanbase. Im so tired of hearing worthless, baseless, pointless posts on this bloody website, most of the time on points that will likely change in a matter of a few weeks.
In this situation we have NO...I repeate...NO information about what micro-transaction REALLY means in this case, and already all the thumb sucking, blanky strokeing, infants are out in force. Until I hear EXACTLY what the "micro-transaction model" really is in this case, im not going to waste a single bead of sweat over it. Hell I've wasted enough trying to keep it cool while I watch the MMOCRYBABY...opps I mean MMORPG community have a hissy fit...
"Well let me just quote the late-great Colonel Sanders, who said…’I’m too drunk to taste this chicken." - Ricky Bobby
I am so very disappointed in this news and I can only hope they change their minds. Otherwise, this is a no go for me. I despise RMT. I get nickel and dimed with hidden charges from my bank, phone company, cable company, electric company and the list goes on and I refuse to let my primary form of entertainment fall into the same category as those blood sucking companies.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
Meh. It seems more and more like they are ripping out everything that makes an MMO an MMO (except for that cash-flow).
So they're going the route of some of the asian MMOs, eh?
Buwhahahahahahahq1!!!1!!!
**cough**
**wheeeeze**
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahah!!!!
I swear, I loved Bioware in the past, but they're sure making several idiotic steps on their first MMO.
Edit to add: On another site where this bit of news was let out, another commenter said it perfectly with this kind of model of doing business in an "MMO":
"Free to play, pay to win"
Congrats Bioware, you guys are freakin' tards before even going Beta.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
very sad news, i'm not going to play a mircotransaction game or will never buy anything from bioware ever hehe
LOL man this and most of the other responses in this thread are SO typical of the imature, cry baby, wet diaper, mmo fanbase. Im so tired of hearing worthless, baseless, pointless posts on this bloody website, most of the time on points that will likely change in a matter of a few weeks.
In this situation we have NO...I repeate...NO information about what micro-transaction REALLY means in this case, and already all the thumb sucking, blanky strokeing, infants are out in force. Until I hear EXACTLY what the "micro-transaction model" really is in this case, im not going to waste a single bead of sweat over it. Hell I've wasted enough trying to keep it cool while I watch the MMOCRYBABY...opps I mean MMORPG community have a hissy fit...
Then you have never tried an MMO that used the Microtransaction business model.
If you have, you'd understand why alot of us MMO players don't like this news one bit. From my previous reply, someone else said it best:
"Free to play, pay to win"
There's a sale on "Clue" at S-Mart. Here's a coin to help buy one while they last.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
The official board is ablaze with outrage right now. Official reply from BioWare on the matter has already been posted in a different thread on this site.
Needless to say, if they keep this idea in their head, they've more or less sunk the ship before it ever floated. *smirk*
Stupid....very stupid idea EA. Right up there with SOE's ideas of the New Gaming Experience..
The official board is ablaze with outrage right now. Official reply from BioWare on the matter has already been posted in a different thread on this site.
Needless to say, if they keep this idea in their head, they've more or less sunk the ship before it ever floated. *smirk*
Stupid....very stupid idea EA. Right up there with SOE's ideas of the New Gaming Experience..
Any idea why the sudden micromanagment push???? SOE is doing it and now SW:TOR???
Apparently may hit Single player games as well wtf??? lol
Have they all lost there friggin minds?
If sony goes through with what they seem to want then PS3 isn't gonna do well at all, everyone is going to be picking up 360's.
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SeanDahlberg
Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know we are aware of this and we've been getting in touch with the right people. We don't have anything official to say yet but stay tuned and we'll have something tomorrow at the latest.
www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php
lol
I'm playing Atlantica Online right now and enjoying it. It's a micro-transaction game. I haven't bought anything yet and don't see myself doing so anytime soon(next 6 months to a year, if I stay that long: the way these so called "AAA" companies are acting I just might. It is free, afterall).
That said, I do no, in my mind and preferences, see TOR as a micro-transaction game, with what they have stated and alluded to for gameplay so far, interesting me at all now. Additionally, as I predicted for myself in an earlier post, I have lost a great measure of respect for Bioware.
Thanks OP for finding this article and posting it. It just solidified one thing for me: play not this game I will. Heh, the MMO gaming industry leadership, to me, is about as clueless as the leadership of the American automobile industry. They make these crap decisions when making games, invest all this money and time and expect the gamers to bail them out with a box sale. And the only thing that will stop them is the one thing that I don't see happening: stop buying their games.
Help us indie development companies. You're my only hope.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
I have no problems with the rmt model but we should all wait for more in-depth details before jumping off the deep end here. I'm still excited about the game and can't wait to play
Nadia, thank you for the link. It just makes me wonder more where the previous statement to Warhammer came from by Bioware.
As for the "conference" call? Ooooooo, a conference call! High Technology.
I am speechless. I am one of the guys who never expected SWG2 from Bioware (not even Koster-esque), but it sounds like they are going lowest common denominater on this cycle. I have never played a "Knights" title, but I did play Mass Effect, and minus the complete BABYLON 5 RIPOFF, it was okay, but never great. In fact I spent more time on elevators than I did just playing the game. I think the only thing I found "touching" about Mass Effect was Seth Green's toon.
So, essentially, within two months of eachother, both MMO Star Wars implementations have gone micro-transaction. The one no one wants to play(Christmas Past) vs. the one people will hate themselves for playing (Christmas Yet to Come).
(This is not directed towards a player, a developer, or a fan of Star Wars Galaxies, or Bioware's Fans or Crew):
The Intellectual property of Star Wars has been milked, squeezed, dried up, and raisoned in the Arizona sun. I would never call for a Bioware boycotte, they make decent games, but as for Lucas? All things aside, I am happy my kids will gain more from watching Star Trek.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
I also lost complete interest. This sucks big time.
it caught the BW devs by surprise
SeanDahlberg
Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know we are aware of this and we've been getting in touch with the right people. We don't have anything official to say yet but stay tuned and we'll have something tomorrow at the latest.
and there will be an update soon
SeanDahlberg
Personally, I'd prefer if the topic stayed on the pros and cons of microtransactions and your constructive criticism of points made. Let's not make this into personal assaults on each other. We will have word on this topic (the article in question, that is) and on something else
Now Sean needs to leave the office and find some food... I'll be back in a bit
Is this stating LucasArts/Bioware is targetting the Southeast Asian Market? Because given then the track record of those games a "story driven" MMO has less of a market there then here (North American, which differs from the Euro Market).
Perhaps you meant the South American market, or maybe the Central Asian (India, Russian), or Perhaps the Penguin Market (they are cheap, work for fish).
In every market, this IP needs to be removed.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
if they go the Guild Wars direction i will not have a problem with it.........like think about this 30 dollars for expansion (around the quality of GWEN) every 6 months.....if the PvP is like how the DEVs say it is then i am all for it..Saves me money
each expansion is not necessary but really really good to have
hated it.
hate it more.
There are just very few things which really make a MMO a no-no for me, and Microtransactions is definitely one of them. If SWTOR is going to this model, just no way in hell I am going to play it. End of debate for me.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Completely, Agreed.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
I already voiced my disappointment on the forums. This was a major shock for me too.. and it's really made me anxious. It still depends. If it's like Guild Wars, then I'll be happy. If it's a fluff mall or costs for extra stuff like more inventory space, character slots, etc.. then I'll be "okay" with it. If it's an item mall, pay by the hour, pay to unlock most of the content.. then no no.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
Heh, almost feel bad for them. This kind of an announcement is like mmorpg suicide. Why did they even bother putting all that work into the project when they are just going to flush it down the toilet? A microtransaction model is a fallback, a last resort when you have no other choice. When you are out of options. When people think the game isn't good enough to pay with a regular monthly fee. To make it that way from the get go... well they must not have a lot of faith in their product.
What company deliberately tries to sever off a significant portion of their player base at this stage of development? Doesn't make sense. I refuse to believe they are so out of touch they don't realize the effect it has.
As long as there are other options out there, I have no reason to play a microtransaction model based game.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
very sad news, i'm not going to play a mircotransaction game or will never buy anything from bioware ever hehe
Yeah, since it has written "our game is not good enough to pay a fee for it" all over it. I makes me so pissed! Sometimes I wonder if there is a Blizzard agent in every damn MMO developing studio these days to make a seemingly endless series of dumb ideas?
I shudder recalling the horrible community GW had at least on the EU servers. ALL full of sex/porn talk, trash talk of freeloaders and aggro kiddies. Terrible.
EDIT: Funny to see how the thread about this matter on the official site is EXPLODING. Went up from 44 to 49 pages in about 90 seconds or so. XD
Looks like the shot themselves so many holes in their leg now, they can whistle Imperial March with the leg-bone by now. ><
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Well just another reason why this game is now not only just sticking to the usual MMO mold, they are now taking the worst thing about Eastern MMO's and implimenting that as well. Whats next?
_____________________________
At the turn of the century...
In 2008...
Cracked.com voted Roosevelt as the most badass President of all time.
This is his story....
The announcement that there will only be 2 iconic classes, Light Jedi and Dark Jedi!
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
LOL man this and most of the other responses in this thread are SO typical of the imature, cry baby, wet diaper, mmo fanbase. Im so tired of hearing worthless, baseless, pointless posts on this bloody website, most of the time on points that will likely change in a matter of a few weeks.
In this situation we have NO...I repeate...NO information about what micro-transaction REALLY means in this case, and already all the thumb sucking, blanky strokeing, infants are out in force. Until I hear EXACTLY what the "micro-transaction model" really is in this case, im not going to waste a single bead of sweat over it. Hell I've wasted enough trying to keep it cool while I watch the MMOCRYBABY...opps I mean MMORPG community have a hissy fit...
I am so very disappointed in this news and I can only hope they change their minds. Otherwise, this is a no go for me. I despise RMT. I get nickel and dimed with hidden charges from my bank, phone company, cable company, electric company and the list goes on and I refuse to let my primary form of entertainment fall into the same category as those blood sucking companies.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
So they're going the route of some of the asian MMOs, eh?
Buwhahahahahahahq1!!!1!!!
**cough**
**wheeeeze**
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahah!!!!
I swear, I loved Bioware in the past, but they're sure making several idiotic steps on their first MMO.
Edit to add: On another site where this bit of news was let out, another commenter said it perfectly with this kind of model of doing business in an "MMO":
"Free to play, pay to win"
Congrats Bioware, you guys are freakin' tards before even going Beta.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
LOLOLOLOL The sad part is a guild mate of mine actualy talked me into giving this MMO a shot when it launched.
Guess what.............. yeah that aint gonna happen now lol.
LOL man this and most of the other responses in this thread are SO typical of the imature, cry baby, wet diaper, mmo fanbase. Im so tired of hearing worthless, baseless, pointless posts on this bloody website, most of the time on points that will likely change in a matter of a few weeks.
In this situation we have NO...I repeate...NO information about what micro-transaction REALLY means in this case, and already all the thumb sucking, blanky strokeing, infants are out in force. Until I hear EXACTLY what the "micro-transaction model" really is in this case, im not going to waste a single bead of sweat over it. Hell I've wasted enough trying to keep it cool while I watch the MMOCRYBABY...opps I mean MMORPG community have a hissy fit...
Then you have never tried an MMO that used the Microtransaction business model.
If you have, you'd understand why alot of us MMO players don't like this news one bit. From my previous reply, someone else said it best:
"Free to play, pay to win"
There's a sale on "Clue" at S-Mart. Here's a coin to help buy one while they last.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
The official board is ablaze with outrage right now. Official reply from BioWare on the matter has already been posted in a different thread on this site.
Needless to say, if they keep this idea in their head, they've more or less sunk the ship before it ever floated. *smirk*
Stupid....very stupid idea EA. Right up there with SOE's ideas of the New Gaming Experience..
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Any idea why the sudden micromanagment push???? SOE is doing it and now SW:TOR???
Apparently may hit Single player games as well wtf??? lol
Have they all lost there friggin minds?
If sony goes through with what they seem to want then PS3 isn't gonna do well at all, everyone is going to be picking up 360's.
Well, that's it, looks like SWG will be doing just fine. Thanks alot EA, good job ruining yet another game with your endless greed.
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