Sorry to inform you.. but this mmo will not be f2p
Ummm it might be f2p with microtransactions .... Doesnt necessarily mean the box will be free.... But the game itself might be f2p with a micro transaction system... More and more people are adopting them... And if done right as i stated earlier they can be quite benificial to all parties...
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike Loved: Star Wars Galaxies Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
"Originally Posted by SeanDahlberg
Definitely understandable and I can't fault any of you for saying just that. But unlike the reveal of the game, this is more along the lines of, for example, the Companion Character System. It isn't finalized yet so we haven't given out the details because what we envision now may not be what we find to be the best system when we're done implementing and evaluating every aspect of it.
We haven't revealed the business model because we're not ready to. As I stated in my first posting in the community, we only want to give you, our fans, fair and accurate information. We don’t want to tell you how we want something to work; we want to tell you how something does work. So, until a system is working as intended or a feature is fully implemented, we will rarely discuss it."
They do, in fact, say that they have not decided on anything.
Again...(for the fourth time now), I am pretty much convinced EA did this (probably without telling BW about it), to test reactions to such a business model.
The reaction was a thread on the official forum that burst to 60 pages and more in an hour and grew to over a hundred pages in the last day, and still continuing to grow, with about 99% negative feedback on specific MT models. Plus a drop in hype on this site, if they check this at all.
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
Besides it's a bit different when the majority following the game go, meh ok vs when the majority following the game say "WTF!!!!!!!!!! F THIS IM OUT!" lol.
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
That's what everyone is hoping for I suppose. *shrugs*
Or at least, to clear up what they mean with MT's. I mean...EVE has MT's. WoW has MT's. Many games have MT's that are agreeable and are -OK- to a certain extent (that would be name change, server-transfer, large content upgrades maybe, or, in EVE's case, In-Game Credits for GTC's).
One more time, let's say it all together: This was a calculated leak on EA's part to gauge the market for a MT business model. Nothing more, nothing less. A stupid move, and I'm pretty sure even BioWare would say so (if they were allowed LOL), but a business-move to stake out the territory.
As I said...they got their reply. A pretty loud reply, too. If they want to kill the game before it launches, they now know what to do. XD
I would like to give myself an Official YOU WERE RIGHT AWARD: Originally posted by hubertgrove
Let's not panic too soon until we hear from Richietto's many mental doctors and therapists about whether the great man's utterance was 'officially on the record' or 'just another one of his crazy-bird delusions'.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
That's what everyone is hoping for I suppose. *shrugs*
Or at least, to clear up what they mean with MT's. I mean...EVE has MT's. WoW has MT's. Many games have MT's that are agreeable and are -OK- to a certain extent (that would be name change, server-transfer, large content upgrades maybe, or, in EVE's case, In-Game Credits for GTC's).
One more time, let's say it all together: This was a calculated leak on EA's part to gauge the market for a MT business model. Nothing more, nothing less. A stupid move, and I'm pretty sure even BioWare would say so (if they were allowed LOL), but a business-move to stake out the territory.
As I said...they got their reply. A pretty loud reply, too. If they want to kill the game before it launches, they now know what to do. XD
I can go with that. With EvE, WoW there's a distinct line drawn in the sand by the players. Apparently this is what happens when you cross that line XD.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it. This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website. Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it. This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website. Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
Read my other quote on the subject.
First, to me it sounds like at least BioWare has said they have -not- decided on any business model.
Second, nobody knows what MT means in this context. (Could be character-transfers, name-changes, anything games like WoW and EVE already offer as MT's).
Third, the interview was a mess in the first place to be honest. Warhammer Online has MT? Where? I never saw it while I played it. And many people got the impression from that article that EA said they used MT in Warhammer. So...eh.
But one thing I will say. They better come out with some information quick. Damage Control is useless now.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it. This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website. Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
EA's CEO did the same thing he did when he let it slip that BioWare's MMO was based on Star Wars. TOR's payment system has been unofficially revealed. We don't have the exact details, but we know it will be RMT based. There was no misunderstanding, it was just that EA's CEO again revealed something before it was supposed to be announced. He seems to have a habit of doing that.
We'll have to wait until February to know the exact details, but we know what to expect.
Well, if they do decide to go with the microtransaction model I will not be buying this game. A lot of what I've heard about this game already has me thinking I'll be passing on it. I thought basing an MMO on KOTOR would be amazing, but it sounds like Bioware is pretty determined to make a game I will personally hate.
Well the game certainly fell from it's top spot on the hyper meter since this was announced. Not surprising at all really. MT is for Asian countries because of internet cafes and the annual income of people in those countries. In the West, it's all about subscriptions.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
When I heard Bioware was doing the development for SWTOR it certainly caught my attention. I have always been impressed by the games they have produced over the years and was looking forward to this one. Now that its has been stated they are trying to use the microtransaction model I am more than a little disappointed to hear this. I was quite willing to pay $15.99 or more per month to try this out and see what it has to offer. There is no way on hell I am willing to pay for content as I go. I understand this model is popular in Asia for whatever reason. I currently play WOW (thats right you heard me), saw what you will about the graphics and catering to whiney and lazy fans, you can access the whole world for the cost of the game plus the subscription fee. Most MMO's have some kind of problm with currency farming because there are gamers out there who will pay real money to make the game easier for them. From the tone of the posts I have seen here and on other boards the players of MMO's for the most part work hard on their chosen games and earn gear and improve their toons to get into more difficult parts of the game. They idea that someone with a credit card with little or no effort can acquire the same stuff as you do through time and effort really pises off the average player. Perhaps I am being too narrow minded, and I should wait for more info but right not this just smacks of the companies involved looking to make the biggest score possible and be dammed with what the players, your customers want. While I wont saw never till I know more this has cast a deep gloom over this title fro me.
another stupid pointless post! woooooo let the flames of stupidity live long!
I think its just about time I delete my MMORPG.COM account, as 90% of the userbase have nothing good nor intelligent to contribute besides showing me how quickly they can soil themselves...THATS what I smell....
Someone I agree with! People, you need to stop being so dramatic and worried about everything. He also mentioned Warhammer in that statement. Is it microtransation? No. Could they mean they're going to come out with some games that are subscription based and some that are microtransation based?
I just find it funny how much you people on this forum freak out or get so obsessed with things. AoC is going to be the greatest thing ever! Wait, no it sucked, lets switch to Warhammer! No that sucked too. All games now are going to suck even when they come from a proven company like Bioware!
When they actually announce things and its posted on their website then start flailing and yelling to anyone who will listen. If you rush to conclusions you're just going to look stupid in the future.
Someone I agree with! People, you need to stop being so dramatic and worried about everything. He also mentioned Warhammer in that statement. Is it microtransation? No. Could they mean they're going to come out with some games that are subscription based and some that are microtransation based?
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Someone I agree with! People, you need to stop being so dramatic and worried about everything. He also mentioned Warhammer in that statement. Is it microtransation? No. Could they mean they're going to come out with some games that are subscription based and some that are microtransation based?
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
You all keep forgetting that this news was spilled by the 'Crazy Larry & His Mile of Used Cars' of the MMO world. Riccietto is to be trusted about as far as he can be thrown.
maybe I have this concept wrong, but it sounds like EA wants to milk it for whatever they can really quickly as if there expecting the game to fail overall in the long run?
Someone I agree with! People, you need to stop being so dramatic and worried about everything. He also mentioned Warhammer in that statement. Is it microtransation? No. Could they mean they're going to come out with some games that are subscription based and some that are microtransation based?
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
You all keep forgetting that this news was spilled by the 'Crazy Larry & His Mile of Used Cars' of the MMO world. Riccietto is to be trusted about as far as he can be thrown.
His last slip up reveal was telling Portfolio magazine that BioWare's MMO was a Star Wars game. He has a habit of saying things he shouldn't, but he hasn't been saying too many things that didn't turn out to be true.
maybe I have this concept wrong, but it sounds like EA wants to milk it for whatever they can really quickly as if there expecting the game to fail overall in the long run?
Or they think the game will be popular enough that a large number of customers will be willing to pay more through microtransactions than they would with a monthly fee. That is the idea behind microtransaction models.
EA spent close to a billion dollars to buy BioWare/Pandemic, and the main thing that the EA folks mentioned during the buyout was BioWare's MMO (some even went as far as saying it was the main draw of the purchase). I doubt they are expecting the game to fail, but it does seem like many of the folks involved are doing what they can to make failure more likely (HEROIC! MICROTRANSACTIONS! that are STAR WARSY! and ICONIC!).
I think if they are gonna make it like guild wars part of the reason would be to appease those single play KOTOR fans who don't want an MMO and monthly fees.
anyways......
I thought a bit about this a bit today and I've decided I would play this game if it used the guild wars type subscription method. Here's why.
You just have to buy the game and play, no subbing, unsubing to worry about, no game cards, no more worrying about credit card BS charges. You either like the game or you hate it.
Free content updates throughout the year.
Expansion packs you buy if you want em and whatever else they may offer. If I need a break, I can leave, then come back when a new expansoin hits with new content, but I'm still a considered a customer. And I may even come back to new stuff in the base game, that's free!
It's not really like the old MUDs Diablo1-2, there will be stuff added, this is a plus. I mean the game could just operate like any other high end MMO, yet free to play. As long as there is plenty to do in the base game then I'm good. It's actually a better deal then what SOE offers with EQ2, pay for the game, pay to play, pay for expansions, and they just added an item mall.
Well just another reason why this game is now not only just sticking to the usual MMO mold, they are now taking the worst thing about Eastern MMO's and implimenting that as well. Whats next?
The announcement that there will only be 2 iconic classes, Light Jedi and Dark Jedi!
I think if they are gonna make it like guild wars part of the reason would be to appease those single play KOTOR fans who don't want an MMO and monthly fees.
anyways...... I thought a bit about this a bit today and I've decided I would play this game if it used the guild wars type subscription method. Here's why. You just have to buy the game and play, no subbing, unsubing to worry about, no game cards, no more worrying about credit card BS charges. You either like the game or you hate it. Free content updates throughout the year. Expansion packs you buy if you want em and whatever else they may offer. If I need a break, I can leave, then come back when a new expansoin hits with new content, but I'm still a considered a customer. And I may even come back to new stuff in the base game, that's free! It's not really like the old MUDs Diablo1-2, there will be stuff added, this is a plus. I mean the game could just operate like any other high end MMO, yet free to play. As long as there is plenty to do in the base game then I'm good. It's actually a better deal then what SOE offers with EQ2, pay for the game, pay to play, pay for expansions, and they just added an item mall.
idk im just gonna have to look at my options about this game more.
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Ummm it might be f2p with microtransactions .... Doesnt necessarily mean the box will be free.... But the game itself might be f2p with a micro transaction system... More and more people are adopting them... And if done right as i stated earlier they can be quite benificial to all parties...
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
Follow us @ http://twitter.com/swtor
[Contact Us] [Rules of Conduct] [F.A.Q.]"
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
Follow us @ http://twitter.com/swtor
[Contact Us] [Rules of Conduct] [F.A.Q.]"
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
Follow us @ http://twitter.com/swtor
[Contact Us] [Rules of Conduct] [F.A.Q.]"
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
"Originally Posted by SeanDahlberg
Definitely understandable and I can't fault any of you for saying just that. But unlike the reveal of the game, this is more along the lines of, for example, the Companion Character System. It isn't finalized yet so we haven't given out the details because what we envision now may not be what we find to be the best system when we're done implementing and evaluating every aspect of it.
We haven't revealed the business model because we're not ready to. As I stated in my first posting in the community, we only want to give you, our fans, fair and accurate information. We don’t want to tell you how we want something to work; we want to tell you how something does work. So, until a system is working as intended or a feature is fully implemented, we will rarely discuss it."
They do, in fact, say that they have not decided on anything.
Again...(for the fourth time now), I am pretty much convinced EA did this (probably without telling BW about it), to test reactions to such a business model.
The reaction was a thread on the official forum that burst to 60 pages and more in an hour and grew to over a hundred pages in the last day, and still continuing to grow, with about 99% negative feedback on specific MT models. Plus a drop in hype on this site, if they check this at all.
*shrugs* They got their reaction.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
Follow us @ http://twitter.com/swtor
[Contact Us] [Rules of Conduct] [F.A.Q.]"
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
Follow us @ http://twitter.com/swtor
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You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
Besides it's a bit different when the majority following the game go, meh ok vs when the majority following the game say "WTF!!!!!!!!!! F THIS IM OUT!" lol.
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When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
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You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
That's what everyone is hoping for I suppose. *shrugs*
Or at least, to clear up what they mean with MT's. I mean...EVE has MT's. WoW has MT's. Many games have MT's that are agreeable and are -OK- to a certain extent (that would be name change, server-transfer, large content upgrades maybe, or, in EVE's case, In-Game Credits for GTC's).
One more time, let's say it all together: This was a calculated leak on EA's part to gauge the market for a MT business model. Nothing more, nothing less. A stupid move, and I'm pretty sure even BioWare would say so (if they were allowed LOL), but a business-move to stake out the territory.
As I said...they got their reply. A pretty loud reply, too. If they want to kill the game before it launches, they now know what to do. XD
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"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it.
This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.
When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
Follow us @ http://twitter.com/swtor
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You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later.
That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet.
Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol.
So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
That's what everyone is hoping for I suppose. *shrugs*
Or at least, to clear up what they mean with MT's. I mean...EVE has MT's. WoW has MT's. Many games have MT's that are agreeable and are -OK- to a certain extent (that would be name change, server-transfer, large content upgrades maybe, or, in EVE's case, In-Game Credits for GTC's).
One more time, let's say it all together: This was a calculated leak on EA's part to gauge the market for a MT business model. Nothing more, nothing less. A stupid move, and I'm pretty sure even BioWare would say so (if they were allowed LOL), but a business-move to stake out the territory.
As I said...they got their reply. A pretty loud reply, too. If they want to kill the game before it launches, they now know what to do. XD
I can go with that. With EvE, WoW there's a distinct line drawn in the sand by the players. Apparently this is what happens when you cross that line XD.
pity
this game is now a complete miss
no checking forums or websites for updates or some new exciting developments - written off
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
Read my other quote on the subject.
First, to me it sounds like at least BioWare has said they have -not- decided on any business model.
Second, nobody knows what MT means in this context. (Could be character-transfers, name-changes, anything games like WoW and EVE already offer as MT's).
Third, the interview was a mess in the first place to be honest. Warhammer Online has MT? Where? I never saw it while I played it. And many people got the impression from that article that EA said they used MT in Warhammer. So...eh.
But one thing I will say. They better come out with some information quick. Damage Control is useless now.
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So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
EA's CEO did the same thing he did when he let it slip that BioWare's MMO was based on Star Wars. TOR's payment system has been unofficially revealed. We don't have the exact details, but we know it will be RMT based. There was no misunderstanding, it was just that EA's CEO again revealed something before it was supposed to be announced. He seems to have a habit of doing that.
We'll have to wait until February to know the exact details, but we know what to expect.
Well, if they do decide to go with the microtransaction model I will not be buying this game. A lot of what I've heard about this game already has me thinking I'll be passing on it. I thought basing an MMO on KOTOR would be amazing, but it sounds like Bioware is pretty determined to make a game I will personally hate.
Well the game certainly fell from it's top spot on the hyper meter since this was announced. Not surprising at all really. MT is for Asian countries because of internet cafes and the annual income of people in those countries. In the West, it's all about subscriptions.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
another stupid pointless post! woooooo let the flames of stupidity live long!
I think its just about time I delete my MMORPG.COM account, as 90% of the userbase have nothing good nor intelligent to contribute besides showing me how quickly they can soil themselves...THATS what I smell....
Someone I agree with! People, you need to stop being so dramatic and worried about everything. He also mentioned Warhammer in that statement. Is it microtransation? No. Could they mean they're going to come out with some games that are subscription based and some that are microtransation based?
I just find it funny how much you people on this forum freak out or get so obsessed with things. AoC is going to be the greatest thing ever! Wait, no it sucked, lets switch to Warhammer! No that sucked too. All games now are going to suck even when they come from a proven company like Bioware!
When they actually announce things and its posted on their website then start flailing and yelling to anyone who will listen. If you rush to conclusions you're just going to look stupid in the future.
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
You all keep forgetting that this news was spilled by the 'Crazy Larry & His Mile of Used Cars' of the MMO world. Riccietto is to be trusted about as far as he can be thrown.
maybe I have this concept wrong, but it sounds like EA wants to milk it for whatever they can really quickly as if there expecting the game to fail overall in the long run?
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
You all keep forgetting that this news was spilled by the 'Crazy Larry & His Mile of Used Cars' of the MMO world. Riccietto is to be trusted about as far as he can be thrown.
His last slip up reveal was telling Portfolio magazine that BioWare's MMO was a Star Wars game. He has a habit of saying things he shouldn't, but he hasn't been saying too many things that didn't turn out to be true.
Or they think the game will be popular enough that a large number of customers will be willing to pay more through microtransactions than they would with a monthly fee. That is the idea behind microtransaction models.
EA spent close to a billion dollars to buy BioWare/Pandemic, and the main thing that the EA folks mentioned during the buyout was BioWare's MMO (some even went as far as saying it was the main draw of the purchase). I doubt they are expecting the game to fail, but it does seem like many of the folks involved are doing what they can to make failure more likely (HEROIC! MICROTRANSACTIONS! that are STAR WARSY! and ICONIC!).
I think if they are gonna make it like guild wars part of the reason would be to appease those single play KOTOR fans who don't want an MMO and monthly fees.
anyways......
I thought a bit about this a bit today and I've decided I would play this game if it used the guild wars type subscription method. Here's why.
You just have to buy the game and play, no subbing, unsubing to worry about, no game cards, no more worrying about credit card BS charges. You either like the game or you hate it.
Free content updates throughout the year.
Expansion packs you buy if you want em and whatever else they may offer. If I need a break, I can leave, then come back when a new expansoin hits with new content, but I'm still a considered a customer. And I may even come back to new stuff in the base game, that's free!
It's not really like the old MUDs Diablo1-2, there will be stuff added, this is a plus. I mean the game could just operate like any other high end MMO, yet free to play. As long as there is plenty to do in the base game then I'm good. It's actually a better deal then what SOE offers with EQ2, pay for the game, pay to play, pay for expansions, and they just added an item mall.
if( sw_tor.HasMicrotransactions() )
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return false;
}
else
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return true;
}
The announcement that there will only be 2 iconic classes, Light Jedi and Dark Jedi!
and also its gonna be a NGE type
idk im just gonna have to look at my options about this game more.