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NDA Dropping and Open Beta start

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  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Silkskin


    there's no profit in lying about a game,



     

    There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

    Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.



     

    ROFL, what state grant are you talking about? 

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Random_mage

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by ethion


    Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.
    No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.
    So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.

     

    A trial period before launch is promised for the persons who  wanna try out.



     

    No.  No trial is promised.  the HOPE to let you try it out before you buy.  Good try though..



     

    So it's gone from "How can they scam you when you get to try it first?" has become "They hope to let you try it out before you buy?"

    Nice. Keep 'em comin'.

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Random_mage

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by ethion


    Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.
    No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.
    So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.

     

    A trial period before launch is promised for the persons who  wanna try out.



     

    No.  No trial is promised.  the HOPE to let you try it out before you buy.  Good try though..



     

    So it's gone from "How can they scam you when you get to try it first?" has become "They hope to let you try it out before you buy?"

    Nice. Keep 'em comin'.



     

    We'll do our best.  Besides which other MMO has even thought about doing this?  But to add to it, I think they said they might allow you to play it first before you buy it only if your a single parent who lives in the western part of the country who's state begins with the letter T.  Thats what I heard atleast.

  • RasticalRastical Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Silkskin


    there's no profit in lying about a game,



     

    There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

    Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.



     

    ROFL, what state grant are you talking about? 



     

    There are docs online that show they received a grant of a little over $200,000 in 2006.

    I think it was polarization found it before.

     

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Silkskin


    there's no profit in lying about a game,



     

    There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

    Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.



     

    ROFL, what state grant are you talking about? 



     

    There are docs online that show they received a grant of a little over $200,000 in 2006.

    I think it was polarization found it before.

     



     

    Link or its fake......

    I heard they payed it back...Just saying.

  • RasticalRastical Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Silkskin


    there's no profit in lying about a game,



     

    There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

    Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.



     

    ROFL, what state grant are you talking about? 



     

    There are docs online that show they received a grant of a little over $200,000 in 2006.

    I think it was polarization found it before.

     



     

    Link or its fake......

    I heard they payed it back...Just saying.



     

    Dunno.. it was awhile back.  Like early last year. But it was posted here. I remember it clearly. Ask polar. He'll find it.

  • Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Silkskin


    there's no profit in lying about a game,



     

    There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

    Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.

    I hope this is what is really going on.. some dude with no pants on, throwing together some shitty videos to live off government grants for years..

    I wouldnt even be mad

  • RasticalRastical Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Focker


    Link or its fake......

    It's common knowledge that aventurine is / was funded by EU

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Silkskin


    there's no profit in lying about a game,



     

    There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

    Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.



     

    ROFL, what state grant are you talking about? 



     

    There are docs online that show they received a grant of a little over $200,000 in 2006.

    I think it was polarization found it before.

     



     

    Link or its fake......

    I heard they payed it back...Just saying.



     

    Dunno.. it was awhile back.  Like early last year. But it was posted here. I remember it clearly. Ask polar. He'll find it.



     

    Ah, we'll a friend who knows a friend who told his brother who's friends with my friend said it wasn't so.

    Edit: aww, now dont go editing you replies.  I have you original so its cool. 

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical


    It's common knowledge that Aventurine was funded by the EU.
    Try to keep up fanboy. You're falling behind.



     

    Yes, I am a fan.... and yes I am a boy.  So i guess i am a fanboy. 

  • RasticalRastical Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Focker


    Yes, I am a fan.... and yes I am a boy. 



     

    More like child.

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical

    Originally posted by Focker


    Yes, I am a fan.... and yes I am a boy. 



     

    More like child.



     

    nah, fanchild just doesn't sound right.  I"ll keep the fanboy.

  • RasticalRastical Member Posts: 39

    Most interesting bit of this interview is that the finance guy says that they have been getting government funding, probably EU funding to help boost the tech industry in Greece I would imagine.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm?thread=205312&bhcp=1



    As for the economical part, as Spyros Iordanis told us (the economical manager), "where there is will there is a way".

    "Let's not forget government funding, which are not the solution but they area a helping hand".

    Sorry to tell you this guys.. but the fact your dream game is having to live off of hand outs from grants doesn't bode well at all.

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical


    Most interesting bit of this interview is that the finance guy says that they have been getting government funding, probably EU funding to help boost the tech industry in Greece I would imagine.
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm?thread=205312&bhcp=1


    As for the economical part, as Spyros Iordanis told us (the economical manager), "where there is will there is a way".

    "Let's not forget government funding, which are not the solution but they area a helping hand".



     

     They got government funding from greece and..............?

  • RasticalRastical Member Posts: 39

    And?????????????????????

    And that's it.

    You wanted links.. I gave you links.

    They could simply be sitting around living large off of grants given to start up companies in Greece.

    That's the point. Wouldn't be the first time that's for sure.

    Why spend money developing software with no gurantee of success when you can just develop forever and pocket tens of thousands of dollars.

    Then finally just throw some half assed shit out the door so you have SOMETHING to show...

     

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Rastical


    And?
    And that's it.
    You wanted links.. I gave you links.
    They could simply be sitting around living large off of grants given to start up companies in Greece.
    That;s the point. wouldn't be the first time that's for sure.
     



     

    Well, im touched your worried about what this company is doing with greece grants.  I personaly have to much crap in my own life to worry about a game getting a grand ,and then  trying to think of some type of conspiracy theory the company may be doing.  

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    So no open beta to test the servers with large amounts of people ? Is this correct !

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  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by stayontarget


    So no open beta to test the servers with large amounts of people ? Is this correct !



     

    Not as of yet.  I'd assume it would happen before jan 22 though. 

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by stayontarget


    So no open beta to test the servers with large amounts of people ? Is this correct !

     

    As someone earlier said, this thread could have been over very quickly.

     

    The answer is: No One Knows.

  • greymanngreymann Member Posts: 757

    I'm sorry guys. In that latest vid the characters look like bumbling clowns.  Art is infantile.  Scenery lacks detail.  Bore / LoL fest.

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by greymann


    I'm sorry guys. In that latest vid the characters look like bumbling clowns.  Art is infantile.  Scenery lacks detail.  Bore / LoL fest.



     

    Welp, thanks for checking in.  Hopefull you'll find your game

  • ABRaquelABRaquel Member UncommonPosts: 541

    For those that don't know how the EU works, nothing gets done in Europe that doesn't have some EC Grants.

     

    Those grants are not given by the EC itself but by the Greek Government (which recieves money from the EC). So I'm assuming that Greek authorities saw some kind of working "client" from Aventurine before assigning any kind of funds. Of course that doesn't mean that the money went specifically to Darkfall or if it went to their "military" projects that their supposed to be working on. (again I'm not sure what Aventurine does besides DF).



    Regarding DF, if people are so skeptical then just wait for the release. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, DnL was my mistake. So I'll just take the "patiently waiting" approach before diving in.



    I dislike FFA PvP looting stuff but I love sandbox games, so I'm hoping that Darkfall will be successful, I want more sandbox games out there and more creativity.  I might get my wish someday and get a PvE Sandbox title worth playing hehe

    Again, good luck Aventurine and hope you release the product that everyone's been waiting for.

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Focker

    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by Adigiron

    Originally posted by singsofdeath

    Originally posted by Focker


    I hope they delay it another year,  Just cause they can! 

     

    Me, too! I'm really going to miss the DF Forums once the game is released. It is just too much fun reading all this....all these well thought out posts.



     

    it will still be here, a battle of what "Feature complete" actually means one side defending the lack of some of the previously mentioned features while the other state they were lied to about the features.

    Heh yup.

     

    I think those that think this forum will be "normal" after release didn't spend much time in the Vanguard, PotBS, AoC, or WAR forums before release and the months afterward.

     

    Vanguard's forums have returned to a mostly "normal" forums now, but it was many, many months afterwards before that happened.

     

     

    The only way that the forum would be "normal" after release is if 100% of the people that tried it after release loved it and found all the features they were expecting to be 100% complete and to their expectations.

    Now while it's true that there is a possibility that the above statement may indeed happen... I would be more surprised by that happening than my wife giving birth to a 5-headed hydra. 



     

    What is MMORPG going to do when DF comes out?  the majority of the people come here to search DF, and most of us wont even be here to talk about it since we'll be playing the game most of the time.  Maybe we should retire these DF forums in memory of the busiest times in MMORPG. 

    Heh... perhaps your workplace allows for playing MMOs during lunch and/or slow times... mine does not. 

    I can get by with some forum reading and posting though.  For some reason I do not think I am alone in that situation.  

  • rageagainstrageagainst Member Posts: 618
    Originally posted by greymann


    I'm sorry guys. In that latest vid the characters look like bumbling clowns.  Art is infantile.  Scenery lacks detail.  Bore / LoL fest.

     

    if thats seriously all your complaints, I mean go play AoC, I don't mean that in a mean way but you seem to put graphics in a high area, AoC has nothing BUT graphics, you'll LOVE that game!

    Anyway, the graphics are medium/passable. Some parts are way above average (environments), and some parts (such as the animation) are REALLY bad.

    And about beta,they've already been testing the game with PAYED TESTERS for about a year and they also utilize AI to test. They don't plan to find bugs in closed beta (it will be just for hardware testing and complaints normal people have (such as with the UI) that you can have a quick fix to) and open beta will be just for stress tests.

    I don't know how long open beta will be, but from the above I deduced it was going to be 1 week, 2 weeks tops.

     

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by rageagainst

    Originally posted by greymann


    I'm sorry guys. In that latest vid the characters look like bumbling clowns.  Art is infantile.  Scenery lacks detail.  Bore / LoL fest.

     

    if thats seriously all your complaints, I mean go play AoC, I don't mean that in a mean way but you seem to put graphics in a high area, AoC has nothing BUT graphics, you'll LOVE that game!

    Anyway, the graphics are medium/passable. Some parts are way above average (environments), and some parts (such as the animation) are REALLY bad.

    And about beta,they've already been testing the game with PAYED TESTERS for about a year and they also utilize AI to test. They don't plan to find bugs in closed beta (it will be just for hardware testing and complaints normal people have (such as with the UI) that you can have a quick fix to) and open beta will be just for stress tests.

    I don't know how long open beta will be, but from the above I deduced it was going to be 1 week, 2 weeks tops.

     

     

    actully they are fixing bugs still that pop up

    no on ever said it was going to be bugless

    but i dont think there is any game breaking bugs

    just minor ones but who kknows we will see right

    but yes they are working on bugs still

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