Originally posted by IAmMMO Originally posted by brostyn Who is/was boycotting EA?
Pc gamers who know better. If you really don't know why a lot of long time Pc gamers want nothing to do with EA games then you've either been living under a rock or you're a very young teenager who was busy being a pre teen when EA was busy burning it's bridges with Pc gamers in the 1990's gobbling up well respected game companies and squished them into the ground and turning their once profitable IP's in to none innovative more of the same stagnant crap to please its greedy investors who don't know Pc gaming from their arse holes.
*horrible flashbacks*
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Pc gamers who know better. If you really don't know why a lot of long time Pc gamers want nothing to do with EA games then you've either been living under a rock or you're a very young teenager who was busy being a pre teen when EA was busy burning it's bridges with Pc gamers in the 1990's gobbling up well respected game companies and squished them into the ground and turning their once profitable IP's in to none innovative more of the same stagnant crap to please its greedy investors who don't know Pc gaming from their arse holes.
*horrible flashbacks*
I have to be honest and say that I have no idea why EA is so hated (and I've been playing games since the late 80's). Obviously with the recent introduction of their DRM software I've had an insight, but other than that, they've always been just another publisher. But then I don't really care as long as I enjoy the games.
Originally posted by Reklaw You don't boycott things you have a choice in using, you boycott things that you are forced on using, unless someone is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy/play a game Games or their company are not a thing to boycott unless a person is working for that company, you either play/buy a game or you don't, if you don't buy/play the game then it's just that, it has nothing to do with boycotting.
That's...not true at all. To Boycott exactly means to choose not to buy things. If you are forced to use something, you cannot boycott it. Boycotting is actively choosing to not buy a product or use a service.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Please post if you show support for an SOE boycott! How long have YOU been SOE free?
I boycott ea-games as they shut down mmo's with a drop of a turd, I do not boycott soe as they try to do things to keep revenue going as to not shut down there games.
sorry for the edit, although soe does do things to try to change there games around to keep them afloat amongst the crappy economy, here is a little link that you shall find interesting why soe seems to be better at handling games imho than ea-games can, all in all ea-games cares less of there playerbase than any mmo publisher/developer... http://www.wiki4mmo.com/index.php?title=MMORPG_Graveyard
Originally posted by Rehmes Sony makes some decent electronics, a bit pricey for my budget but overall good quality. When it comes to their MMOs i cant say much since i dont play any but seriously, boycotting a whole company because one of their departments isnt up to par then you need help. Sony has and still is a frontrunner in technology developent and NO i dont own a PS3 or any console for that matter. I have simply owned a few Sony products and have been pleased.
Unless things have changed I am afraid you are wrong. For laptops (and their old desktops) if you have a look inside you will see the cheapest components possible (imo), all you are really paying for is the logo on the case. Couple that along with constant recalls on their products, especially the laptops and that makes for a poor state of affairs. I did have one of their TVs but when we bought an LCD, the Sony products just didnt hit the grade in all the tech reviews etc, even the sales staff at four stores all supported that.
Originally posted by Bigdavo A company making a shitty game is a little bit differenent than over 500 people dieing in a plane crash. Just a little.
Flight 123 was just a mechanism to cause an airline to sink for 2 decades. Just like RMT can sink SoE for the same disregard to it's paying customers.
Neither situation does customers like to be treated as dollar signs, while maintenance goes astray for a quick buck.
The two lead engineers at least were honorable -- both the Japanese and the American engineers who approved of the botched fixed committed suicide afterwards.
you seriously have issues.....seriously...comparing a video game to a plane crash. And it is never honorable to take ones own life....jesus wth is wrong with you people....they are friggen video games
Well I dont think it'll be possibly for us to actualy shut down sony's SoE due to they do sell very nice flat screen HDTV's and blueray players and discs, and all that other junk, so they will probably still be able to support the SoE budget. The question is.. How can we shut them down without making them go out of business.. ::evil grin:: MWUAHAHAHA!
Anyways, sure, I probably wont be buying another SoE game for a long time, due to the fact they got my dick hard on swg just to stab me in my anus.
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
you seriously have issues.....seriously...comparing a video game to a plane crash. And it is never honorable to take ones own life....jesus wth is wrong with you people....they are friggen video games
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
Hello my name is… opps sorry wrong former addiction. Some of us refused to drink the cool-aid a few years back. Glad to have more of you seeing the light.
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you seriously have issues.....seriously...comparing a video game to a plane crash. And it is never honorable to take ones own life....jesus wth is wrong with you people....they are friggen video games
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
it is a fools way out, suicide. The real way to pay them back would be to strive to compensate what they did, suicide is not only immoral, looked down upon by many religions, but it's also the easy way out. You want to make amends, work hard to change what you have done, or give back to humanity something of positive impact.
And again, comparing any thing of this magnitude to a VIDEO GAME because you don't like the developement progression is beyond stupid.
If people really want to boycott a gamecompany for what ever reason they should start with stopping all those viral marketing topics like this one which keeps those company's you so-called want to boycott in the picture.
So just stop making topics about game company X
Stop making topics about game X.
The moment people are NOT talking about your game or company will be the moment it will send a CLEAR message.
But aslong people keep talking about game X or company X it only gives the signal to these games or company's to continue as most people who bash or dislike certain games only give hope towards those gamecompanys in order that these company might change feature X or game X with something else.
Silence them if you want results, but keep talking in a only negative manner about them if you don't really care for change. This does not include constructive topics as they are needed yet VERY VERY RARE these day's as people seem unwilling to put some effort into it instead they do what for them is the e3asy way and thats to blame everything on the company or the game without actually looking why these games are teh way they are.
Sure some might say that you need to be vocal, but anyone who has been around for some years knows for a fact that it does not work to be loud as all it does is dump this genre down and we have seen the proof over the last years, basicly thanks to most people who bash these games or their company's, and I keep saying one day some of you might understand this. And one day some of you will truly NOT talk anymore about game or company X you dislike which will send the message.
This topic among many other only sends the message of HOPE, but like I said many will not understand this.
you seriously have issues.....seriously...comparing a video game to a plane crash. And it is never honorable to take ones own life....jesus wth is wrong with you people....they are friggen video games
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
it is a fools way out, suicide. The real way to pay them back would be to strive to compensate what they did, suicide is not only immoral, looked down upon by many religions, but it's also the easy way out. You want to make amends, work hard to change what you have done, or give back to humanity something of positive impact.
And again, comparing any thing of this magnitude to a VIDEO GAME because you don't like the developement progression is beyond stupid.
Not to Japanese execs and Japanese companies. Don't pull some Western morality play here (and only here, and short change the rest of the morals that's universal regardless of religion).
No wonder why the 40 piece silver collecting fanbois are so dumb. They get their talking points by dictation (explains the roteness of their replies). When confronted with a larger meaning that strays from their script, they have a brain fart! lol
you seriously have issues.....seriously...comparing a video game to a plane crash. And it is never honorable to take ones own life....jesus wth is wrong with you people....they are friggen video games
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
it is a fools way out, suicide. The real way to pay them back would be to strive to compensate what they did, suicide is not only immoral, looked down upon by many religions, but it's also the easy way out. You want to make amends, work hard to change what you have done, or give back to humanity something of positive impact.
And again, comparing any thing of this magnitude to a VIDEO GAME because you don't like the developement progression is beyond stupid.
Not to Japanese execs and Japanese companies. Don't pull some Western morality play here (and only here, and short change the rest of the morals that's universal regardless of religion).
No wonder why the 40 piece silver collecting fanbois are so dumb. They get their talking points by dictation (explains the roteness of their replies). When confronted with a larger meaning that strays from their script, they have a brain fart! lol
ah so it's ok to pull the eastern morality out of your bum but it's not ok to use western morality...seriously....what?
So just stop making topics about game company X Stop making topics about game X. The moment people are NOT talking about your game or company will be the moment it will send a CLEAR message.
Nope.
That works if it's some fad and splash-in-the-pan stuff (like sex in videogames).
This is an issue that is about marketing and lying to customers. Something that never should be buried. Much like buying a lemon for a car, shouldn't be hushed up, in the inane belief if no one talks about it it'll "just go away".
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It's funny how these boycotts seems to result in the companies doing fine.
Pc gamers who know better. If you really don't know why a lot of long time Pc gamers want nothing to do with EA games then you've either been living under a rock or you're a very young teenager who was busy being a pre teen when EA was busy burning it's bridges with Pc gamers in the 1990's gobbling up well respected game companies and squished them into the ground and turning their once profitable IP's in to none innovative more of the same stagnant crap to please its greedy investors who don't know Pc gaming from their arse holes.
*horrible flashbacks*
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Pc gamers who know better. If you really don't know why a lot of long time Pc gamers want nothing to do with EA games then you've either been living under a rock or you're a very young teenager who was busy being a pre teen when EA was busy burning it's bridges with Pc gamers in the 1990's gobbling up well respected game companies and squished them into the ground and turning their once profitable IP's in to none innovative more of the same stagnant crap to please its greedy investors who don't know Pc gaming from their arse holes.
*horrible flashbacks*
I have to be honest and say that I have no idea why EA is so hated (and I've been playing games since the late 80's). Obviously with the recent introduction of their DRM software I've had an insight, but other than that, they've always been just another publisher. But then I don't really care as long as I enjoy the games.
Yeah, EA is doing just fantastic, isn't it? Not to mention SoE, with their need to whore their games to rake in a little extra dough.
Drone.
Definitely boycotting them.
Ask Sony what happened to Japan Airlines after the worst single aircraft aviation disaster in history, about boycotts...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123
Took them about 20 years to finally recover, after many concessions and profound focus on better safety.
When the public loses confidence in a company, it sinks, regardless what others may think, "Oh, the company is too huge to fail..."
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That's...not true at all. To Boycott exactly means to choose not to buy things. If you are forced to use something, you cannot boycott it. Boycotting is actively choosing to not buy a product or use a service.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Ask Sony what happened to Japan Airlines after the worst single aircraft aviation disaster in history, about boycotts...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123
Took them about 20 years to finally recover, after many concessions and profound focus on better safety.
When the public loses confidence in a company, it sinks, regardless what others may think, "Oh, the company is too huge to fail..."
I speaking of these supposed boycotts of SOE and EA, not of boycotts in general.
I don't need to boycott them lol... none of their future titles look any good.
I boycott ea-games as they shut down mmo's with a drop of a turd, I do not boycott soe as they try to do things to keep revenue going as to not shut down there games.
sorry for the edit, although soe does do things to try to change there games around to keep them afloat amongst the crappy economy, here is a little link that you shall find interesting why soe seems to be better at handling games imho than ea-games can, all in all ea-games cares less of there playerbase than any mmo publisher/developer... http://www.wiki4mmo.com/index.php?title=MMORPG_Graveyard
playing eq2 and two worlds
Unless things have changed I am afraid you are wrong. For laptops (and their old desktops) if you have a look inside you will see the cheapest components possible (imo), all you are really paying for is the logo on the case. Couple that along with constant recalls on their products, especially the laptops and that makes for a poor state of affairs. I did have one of their TVs but when we bought an LCD, the Sony products just didnt hit the grade in all the tech reviews etc, even the sales staff at four stores all supported that.
Does not equal, but it's part of Sony. And they suck.
Ask Sony what happened to Japan Airlines after the worst single aircraft aviation disaster in history, about boycotts...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123
Took them about 20 years to finally recover, after many concessions and profound focus on better safety.
When the public loses confidence in a company, it sinks, regardless what others may think, "Oh, the company is too huge to fail..."
A company making a shitty game is a little bit differenent than over 500 people dieing in a plane crash. Just a little.
O_o o_O
Flight 123 was just a mechanism to cause an airline to sink for 2 decades. Just like RMT can sink SoE for the same disregard to it's paying customers.
Neither situation does customers like to be treated as dollar signs, while maintenance goes astray for a quick buck.
The two lead engineers at least were honorable -- both the Japanese and the American engineers who approved of the botched fixed committed suicide afterwards.
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
you seriously have issues.....seriously...comparing a video game to a plane crash. And it is never honorable to take ones own life....jesus wth is wrong with you people....they are friggen video games
Well I dont think it'll be possibly for us to actualy shut down sony's SoE due to they do sell very nice flat screen HDTV's and blueray players and discs, and all that other junk, so they will probably still be able to support the SoE budget. The question is.. How can we shut them down without making them go out of business.. ::evil grin:: MWUAHAHAHA!
Anyways, sure, I probably wont be buying another SoE game for a long time, due to the fact they got my dick hard on swg just to stab me in my anus.
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
Hello my name is… opps sorry wrong former addiction. Some of us refused to drink the cool-aid a few years back. Glad to have more of you seeing the light.
Boycott $oE, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like We!
You once were lost, but now are found.
Were blind but now you see.
The level of stupid in this is amazing.
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How are you?" -Me
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
it is a fools way out, suicide. The real way to pay them back would be to strive to compensate what they did, suicide is not only immoral, looked down upon by many religions, but it's also the easy way out. You want to make amends, work hard to change what you have done, or give back to humanity something of positive impact.
And again, comparing any thing of this magnitude to a VIDEO GAME because you don't like the developement progression is beyond stupid.
If people really want to boycott a gamecompany for what ever reason they should start with stopping all those viral marketing topics like this one which keeps those company's you so-called want to boycott in the picture.
So just stop making topics about game company X
Stop making topics about game X.
The moment people are NOT talking about your game or company will be the moment it will send a CLEAR message.
But aslong people keep talking about game X or company X it only gives the signal to these games or company's to continue as most people who bash or dislike certain games only give hope towards those gamecompanys in order that these company might change feature X or game X with something else.
Silence them if you want results, but keep talking in a only negative manner about them if you don't really care for change. This does not include constructive topics as they are needed yet VERY VERY RARE these day's as people seem unwilling to put some effort into it instead they do what for them is the e3asy way and thats to blame everything on the company or the game without actually looking why these games are teh way they are.
Sure some might say that you need to be vocal, but anyone who has been around for some years knows for a fact that it does not work to be loud as all it does is dump this genre down and we have seen the proof over the last years, basicly thanks to most people who bash these games or their company's, and I keep saying one day some of you might understand this. And one day some of you will truly NOT talk anymore about game or company X you dislike which will send the message.
This topic among many other only sends the message of HOPE, but like I said many will not understand this.
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
it is a fools way out, suicide. The real way to pay them back would be to strive to compensate what they did, suicide is not only immoral, looked down upon by many religions, but it's also the easy way out. You want to make amends, work hard to change what you have done, or give back to humanity something of positive impact.
And again, comparing any thing of this magnitude to a VIDEO GAME because you don't like the developement progression is beyond stupid.
Not to Japanese execs and Japanese companies. Don't pull some Western morality play here (and only here, and short change the rest of the morals that's universal regardless of religion).
No wonder why the 40 piece silver collecting fanbois are so dumb. They get their talking points by dictation (explains the roteness of their replies). When confronted with a larger meaning that strays from their script, they have a brain fart! lol
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
Oh, put a fork in in, Francis.
The issue is in both instances, after the horrors of what history has written, FUTURE customers refused (and with SoE will refuse) to accept the status quo.
Those engineers showed one thing that these CEO types have not -- they had a conscience and couldn't live with the idea their mistakes cost so many lives, and brought nearly JAL to complete ruin and questioned the QC of Boeing itself.
Tell us if Smedley has one after lying to the customers. How can such a guy even walk around and act like it's no big thing, if he can't even honor his own words?
Then you wonder why folks really dislike such corporations and will boycott them? They have zero honor -- and probably worshipped by the same dishonest people who defend them, too.
it is a fools way out, suicide. The real way to pay them back would be to strive to compensate what they did, suicide is not only immoral, looked down upon by many religions, but it's also the easy way out. You want to make amends, work hard to change what you have done, or give back to humanity something of positive impact.
And again, comparing any thing of this magnitude to a VIDEO GAME because you don't like the developement progression is beyond stupid.
Not to Japanese execs and Japanese companies. Don't pull some Western morality play here (and only here, and short change the rest of the morals that's universal regardless of religion).
No wonder why the 40 piece silver collecting fanbois are so dumb. They get their talking points by dictation (explains the roteness of their replies). When confronted with a larger meaning that strays from their script, they have a brain fart! lol
ah so it's ok to pull the eastern morality out of your bum but it's not ok to use western morality...seriously....what?
Nope.
That works if it's some fad and splash-in-the-pan stuff (like sex in videogames).
This is an issue that is about marketing and lying to customers. Something that never should be buried. Much like buying a lemon for a car, shouldn't be hushed up, in the inane belief if no one talks about it it'll "just go away".
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
Count me in!