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That everyone needs a change from WoW, or the majority of the posters wouldn't be here, either hailing, or bashing Darkfall.
We've had the same concepts slammed down our throats because one game was super successful (and you could argue it wasn't just because of the build, but because of where they pulled people in from), and now, a game like Darkfall that doesn't follow the same old loot grind for useless PvE BS. We have the opprotunity to actually play a game that will end up being a lot of fun, with challange and actual penalty for playing. Where the frustration of being wisked to your last bind spot on death, and the heart pounding action of running into a rival clan in your hunting area.
Now, the question is, what other things could make Darkfall succeed beyond your expectations, and likewise, what make make Darkfall a failure?
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I disagree.
"That everyone needs a change from WoW, or the majority of the posters wouldn't be here, either hailing, or bashing Darkfall."
Yes we agree on this, and we should agree upon that this talks for DarkFall and Aventurine, who try to dare and give us what seems lost , and not against them.
They should get all the support from everyone for them trying to make it happen..Avenbturine and all the indi developers out there who have the original ideas...
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I agree to dissagree about agreeing
It seems like Darkfall is more of a "Im trying to recapture my UO days" type than the "Im tired of WOW" crowd.
I agree that companies need to realy stop taking from WoW as a core for their MMORPG and try something new and different,not a rehash of WoW with some new ideas stickied to it.
Darkfail fails because it has yet to provide any proof of it's progress apart from some dull screenshots and a video ,also no other person except a select few are participating in beta.. they havent even done a stress test yet...
I'm quite happy with WoW but am waiting for DF just to see what Tasos' and friends have been hiding behind the curtain all this time.
It's really just any company that's not under the thumb of a large investor with pressure to perform. Now, as it stands, more games get rushed out with the formula of "go here, get this quest, go kill wolves, come back get reward, move to next area".. because this is what made a crap ton of money for blizzard. So, instead of new ideas with new concepts..
But, as a counter point, look at the games on the left. A LOT of them introduced new concepts, and most you've never heard of. It is important to get your name out there to make a change.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you. There are always going to be people who simply like that style of game (the WoW, eq1 model). These people cannot fundementally support the idea that mmo's should change.
I think this topic has been brought up before, actually.
For someone that's quite happy with WoW, you sure do spend a lot of time here....
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You are probably right, the topic probably has been brought up before..
But, most of the people who are posting on this forums are actually interested in Darkfall, more so than their current game (or they'd be trolling those boards..)
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Well, to actually harken back to the good old days, the games were just more social in general. Even if you could solo things.. you STILL talked and made friends. This day in age, they encourage more solo play by offering single rewards for killing the boss (loot drops), and overall just creating a Me Me ME attitude, where as, back in my AC days, I had a LOT of fun just running around seeing the world with people. They were all a a great source of knowledge. Now, games are SOO easy, ANYONE can become a master in a short time (EVE excluded)
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more like 500-700
What we don't know and likely won't agree on is if the new concepts (or old depending on if you played UO) will be compelling enough to encourage long term play.
We can speculate until the Tasos comes home, but I do know that I was getting bored in UO for many months before I got into the EQ beta.
more like 500-700
Well.. with the projected number of potential subscribers, 500-700 is actual a few.
Although I still dont' believe those numbers. I think it's closer to 200-250. But.. my numbers are as good of a guess as yours are.
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Dude, posts like these were ok a few years ago... permissible even 6 months ago. Now they are just stupid.
Get over it, Darkfall is real and coming out in less than a month. Ok - you can go back to WoW or Care Bears online or wtfever you play.
Well.. with the projected number of potential subscribers, 500-700 is actual a few.
Although I still dont' believe those numbers. I think it's closer to 200-250. But.. my numbers are as good of a guess as yours are.
More like 500-700 until people see it really isn't anything like modern MMOs and that the game is hard and pvp is not for the feint of heart. Then it will go down to 200-250.
I then predict that when naysayers see that DFO is everything it was cracked up to be, those seeking "an old style mmo challenge" and real pvp will start showing up out of the woodwork and the numbers will climb some.
For someone that's quite happy with WoW, you sure do spend a lot of time here....
its a mental problem: WoW. When you're playing it you convince yourself its fun, all the while you're bored out of your mind.
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
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Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
Regardless of whether you agree or not.. you did take the time to post here, which means you are interested in darkfall.
Therefor..
souldrainer 0 SupderD 1.
Better luck at flaming next time.
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Honestly it seems to be grabbing both. This of course is the cause of some (Not all) of the heated conversations. You have on one end of the Spectrum, those that are simply tired of WoW and are looking for something different, but more to there taste and on the other end of the Spectrum you have the UO crowd that has been simply waiting for a new UO to truly be born and want it to be as close as possible.
2 Groups with similar hopes for DarkFall but completely different views on how it should be done and how things should be.
Regardless of whether you agree or not.. you did take the time to post here, which means you are interested in darkfall.
Therefor..
souldrainer 0 SupderD 1.
Better luck at flaming next time.
I am interested in seeing the kind of people that follow a game that they all should know will fail, so Souldrainer 2, Stuper D 0. You couldn't pay me to play the game itself.
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Regardless of whether you agree or not.. you did take the time to post here, which means you are interested in darkfall.
Therefor..
souldrainer 0 SupderD 1.
Better luck at flaming next time.
I am interested in seeing the kind of people that follow a game that they all should know will fail, so Souldrainer 2, Stuper D 0. You couldn't pay me to play the game itself.
how will it fail? tell me?
Hint: bad PR =/= a bad game. Vangaurd had WONDERFUL PR...
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
WHITE/BLUE
Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
I'll add one........
AoC had Great PR and is released.
I'll add one........
AoC had Great PR and is released.
Ok, AoC wasn´t my cup of tea, dunno why... made it to lvl 19. But you are right: reading the forums was very entertaining even months after release. I think the same counts for Vanguard (which I didn´t play when released).
Though some said there was a little differnce between the releases of Vanguard and Conan: Vanguard was broken, Conan without content (I am avoiding the "scam" word here).