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MMORPG'S SUCK!
ganton
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Hey everyone, Im usually a big mmo player however recently I got into playing Oblivion again since I got a new PC. Ive just got to say an awesome RPG like Oblivion really makes you realize how truly horrible the current class of mmorpg's are. I hope someday a game will be released thats nearly as good as Oblivion but an MMO, believe me they'll have my money every month for sure.
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On another note how awesome would that have been if they had made Oblivion multiplayer online?? I can only dream.
Lol perhaps the title of this thread was a bit drastic. Perhaps I should have made it to Oblivion WTFPWNS MMO's :P
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Lol tell these guys something they don't already know.
I for one am quite happy with my MMORPGs at the moment. If I ever want a more immersive RPG experience then singleplayer is the only way to go. I don't see that changing any time soon.
No developer (or financier) has the balls to make something like Oblivion into an mmo, and they don't need to. There are plenty of people willing to shell out $15 a month to ride a hamster wheel, and until the majority of those people wake up and demand something better, great titles like Oblivion will remain firmly in the single player side of the industry.
If you want a true virtual world title, or at the very least, an Oblivion-quality narrative, convince your friends to stop giving money to Blizzard, Mythic, and the rest of the clone factories. The only thing these people care about is recurring revenue, and when it goes away, then and only then will they have to adjust their approach.
it all sucks ... even sucking sucks... we should all just suck...
well oblivion can suck off some where else. the name mmorpg.com.... not rpg.com...
It's all Lies...
Ughh Oblivion is disgusting.
darkfall is doing something like that. it plays like oblivion but in an mmo world.
I suggest Fallout 3, if you haven't played it yet.
Honestly, I don't know why Oblivion would be any better if it was online. Simply run a chat program while you're playing, and there's your Oblivion MMORPG right there.
Unless you want to change the game, and add some RvR, and some forced grouping? Then I agree, it would make a great MMORPG.
oblivion was and still is crap.
I didnt enjoy it one single bit personally, and I dont get what was so special about it. =^) ah well everyone has diff taste.
Oblivion wansn't as good as Morowind IMHO. The spell system was much better in Morrowind making spells where you could summon muliple minions, couldn't do that in Oblivion or atleast I coudn't find out how to do it.
Hmmmmm that reminds me, I do have Morrowind still. I think im going to install it and get some mods for it. .
Yeah I have to agree that there are a lot off mmorpgs that suck, i just cant seem to get into anything.
I actually felt that Oblivion was an MMORPG played alone, so it was very boring actually.
Disappointed might be the appropriate word. Between AOC,WAR and Vanguard mmos I tried this year I have spent over $100 just to be disappointed this year yet again. The most fun I had in a mmo has been FFXI because of the awesome community it had and not to mention the game was pretty fun at the time.
When I first started playing games I played games like Age of Empires, Starcraft, Diablo (The greatest game in history of gaming! ), Neverwinter Nights,Quake, Dungeon SIege. Games like these kept my gaming hobby fun for many years until I wanted something different. Now today, there isn't a single mmo that can even compete with any of these great games and even hold my interest for more than a month except Guild Wars which I have played for 3+ years on and off.
I am not worried though because Diablo 3, Starcraft 2 and Dragon Age are coming so developers can keep pumping out the disappointments all they want.
"Wake up"? So are you saying everyone is supposed to like those kinds of games and games like WoW and WAR are bad and no one should play them? I'm sorry but I thought we had the choice to play our own games and like our own thinks as individual beings, not some collective like the Borg.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
Man can't wait for Dragon Age. Can't get NWN to work on my vista computer so Ill be using DA to work with biowares design thing. Learned the basics of NWN from a game camp I wenttoo last suumer but it doesn't like vista.
Anyways Im happy with what is out right now. Im really enjoying LOTRO and its awesome every time I get to a point in the game that I read in the books. As soon as I got to the lone lands I headed straight for weathertop. And when going through the trollshaws after being ported to rivendell I almost got off that mount thing to go looking for the stone trolls even though I would have died a few times.
So anyways no they don't suck imo.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
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Oblivion pwns ,but with very little work from the developers,modders made the game awesome,alot of nice visual and gameplay enhancement mods out there made Oblivion awesome.
I agree with this guy. The AI was horrendous, there were graphical glitches everywhere, there were quest bugs galore (due to the crappy and buggy AI), the main story was a complete joke, animations were like watching stick figures move in stop motion, the level scaling was a total nightmare for the simple fact that it negated the entire purpose for leveling, the Voice Over was shotty and half the time didn't work properly, the repetitive nature of the Oblivion gates actually made me NOT want to play them...
Oblivion was okay for the time because there was nothing else to play. But everytime I see someone spouting poetry about it, I just have to ask what game they were playing, because Oblivion was nowhere near poetic.
I suppose most people like to overload their game with mods and all sorts of "enhancements", and that's cool for them. Personally, when I play a game, I play it the way the developers release it. I rate a game based on my purchase. I paid $50 bucks for that game, and I feel like it was worth $20 - and it's only saving grace was the fact that it looked so damn good... when it wasn't glitching out.
I agree with this guy. The AI was horrendous, there were graphical glitches everywhere, there were quest bugs galore (due to the crappy and buggy AI), the main story was a complete joke, animations were like watching stick figures move in stop motion, the level scaling was a total nightmare for the simple fact that it negated the entire purpose for leveling, the Voice Over was shotty and half the time didn't work properly, the repetitive nature of the Oblivion gates actually made me NOT want to play them...
Oblivion was okay for the time because there was nothing else to play. But everytime I see someone spouting poetry about it, I just have to ask what game they were playing, because Oblivion was nowhere near poetic.
I suppose most people like to overload their game with mods and all sorts of "enhancements", and that's cool for them. Personally, when I play a game, I play it the way the developers release it. I rate a game based on my purchase. I paid $50 bucks for that game, and I feel like it was worth $20 - and it's only saving grace was the fact that it looked so damn good... when it wasn't glitching out.
That's a realy bad way of thinking ... should just stick to consoles if u dont like mods,players are alot more creative then devs usualy and can come up with incredible stuff,playing vanilla oblivion is like rubbing your face with glass hopping it will turn into diamonds the more u rub.
No need to dream................if Aventurine maintain what it promises, then look no further than DF Online
If it is going to be crap, then there is Mortal Online, and if that will be shit too..............Bethesda is developing an MMO, guess what that would be
I agree with this guy. The AI was horrendous, there were graphical glitches everywhere, there were quest bugs galore (due to the crappy and buggy AI), the main story was a complete joke, animations were like watching stick figures move in stop motion, the level scaling was a total nightmare for the simple fact that it negated the entire purpose for leveling, the Voice Over was shotty and half the time didn't work properly, the repetitive nature of the Oblivion gates actually made me NOT want to play them...
Oblivion was okay for the time because there was nothing else to play. But everytime I see someone spouting poetry about it, I just have to ask what game they were playing, because Oblivion was nowhere near poetic.
I suppose most people like to overload their game with mods and all sorts of "enhancements", and that's cool for them. Personally, when I play a game, I play it the way the developers release it. I rate a game based on my purchase. I paid $50 bucks for that game, and I feel like it was worth $20 - and it's only saving grace was the fact that it looked so damn good... when it wasn't glitching out.
That's a realy bad way of thinking ... should just stick to consoles if u dont like mods,players are alot more creative then devs usualy and can come up with incredible stuff,playing vanilla oblivion is like rubbing your face with glass hopping it will turn into diamonds the more u rub.
Look, I don't dislike the mod community. I LOVE mods. And you're right, they actually do things for the game (usually) that make the overall experience better. Oblivion was really no different in this respect.
But I'm not going to rate a game, and praise it's worth based on a mod - you see what I mean? I mean, it would be like me saying how great Oblivion was, if I had only played it with the Vanilla mod. I paid $50 for Oblivion from Bethesda. Why should Bethesda recieve the glory for the work that some mod team actually did? I mean, anyone can make a game (that is a rhetorical statement), but not everyone can make a good game.
I won't say Oblivion was a good game - it just... was a game. As I have never played the Vanilla mod for Oblivion, I can't say whether it was good or not, but everyone says how much better it makes it. And I mean no offense by saying this, but that means about as much to me as everyone who says Oblivion was a good game.
Yea, I agree. Vanilla Oblivion was only a foundation, the good player mods really gave that game replay value. Fallout 3 will be the same. There's more going on in Fallout than there was in Oblivion, but the mods will add a lot more meat to the game.
I should have noted Im playing this with a ton of mods so its a lot better then the original game. Graphics beat the crap outta any mmo's out and immersion is just amazing. Some of the player made content like the Spires adventures is just incredible and better then what most AAA titles have in them. I wasnt so happy with the game when I first installed it but after downloading the graphic upgrades and such its the best game and most beautiful world Ive ever played in.
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Wow I just checked filesize of Oblivion and with all the mods Ive got on there it went from around 5Gigs to 15gigs! Guess those new texture files are pretty big.
What I meant in saying "make this a mmo" is not have it open to hundreds of players because I know that would never work. Im just saying at a multiplayer online function like NVW2 were you can host a game and have like up to 6 players in the same world at a time.
i though this was going to be a flame thread on how console games still beat mmos.
well anyway, i tried oblivion out and i think it's better off not being an mmo. if you're looking for mmos like it, you could try singleplayer ones.
most mmos today are meh. the mmos im playing at the moment are really not all that great. they're just good for using idle time on.
Yeah, its disheartening to see how lightyears behind MMOs are to RPGs.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Well, Elderscrolls Online would be a neat title to see some day..
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
MMORPGS are never up to beef with big SP games.
Oblivion was a great game until I beat it a week after I bought it.....Just like all the other single player games.......MMOs are meant to be played for a long time, not a quick thrill ride.........In a gmae like Oblivion you get the best gear fairly quick and then whats the reason to play any further......heck after awhile you dont even loot anymore because you have everything........Also if Oblvion is so great why not make an MMO after it? Oh thats right there isnt enough content to keep people around longer than a few days.......
I agree that the current generation of MMORPGs are terrible in comparison to single player RPGs. A MMORPG version of Oblivion would be like Age of Conan. How awesome is that? It's not awesome, I was being sarcastic.
There will never be a MMORPG that is as emersive as a single player one. Why is that? Because in a single player RPG the world revolves around you the player, in an MMORPG the player doesn't mean squat because they are a dime a dozen.
Apparently Bethesda is working on ES:V and it's going to be even bigger than Oblivion. So I'm hoping to see some preview material of that in the next year.
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