OK dmn guys. This is not a coincidence anymore. Xfire numbers went even up another notch. This is like the 6th 2 month record in like 2 weeks. Say what you want, but I have not seen AoC #50 and sniffing on the ranks in the 40s in a very long time. Xfire players No. are about 1200. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/
Cool, my thirsty sword will finally get the chance to bath in Moaner/Quiter blood. Mohahahahaaa!!!
Originally posted by OrionMan OK dmn guys. This is not a coincidence anymore. Xfire numbers went even up another notch. This is like the 6th 2 month record in like 2 weeks. Say what you want, but I have not seen AoC #50 and sniffing on the ranks in the 40s in a very long time. Xfire players No. are about 1200. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ Cool, my thirsty sword will finally get the chance to bath in Moaner/Quiter blood. Mohahahahaaa!!!
Once again more hypocrisy.
If xfire doesnt suit them then it means that xfire is meaningless and shouldnt even be considered as an indicator of the population of AoC because people who play AoC dont use xfire.
Once the xfire numbers go up (like they did in every mmo over the holidays) then it means that AoC is getting popular again and the game will be saved. You cant have it both ways. Either support the fact that xfire IS an indicator of a games population or dont post about it at all.
btw....even though the minutes played has gone up, the number of players is about what it was 2 months ago. This tells me that new players are playing AoC and leveling their toons. Once they get to the endgame or even lvl 65 they will hit the cancel button like over 90% of the playerbase did.
OK dmn guys. This is not a coincidence anymore. Xfire numbers went even up another notch. This is like the 6th 2 month record in like 2 weeks. Say what you want, but I have not seen AoC #50 and sniffing on the ranks in the 40s in a very long time. Xfire players No. are about 1200. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/
Cool, my thirsty sword will finally get the chance to bath in Moaner/Quiter blood. Mohahahahaaa!!!
Once again more hypocrisy.
If xfire doesnt suit them then it means that xfire is meaningless and shouldnt even be considered as an indicator of the population of AoC because people who play AoC dont use xfire.
Once the xfire numbers go up (like they did in every mmo over the holidays) then it means that AoC is getting popular again and the game will be saved. You cant have it both ways. Either support the fact that xfire IS an indicator of a games population or dont post about it at all.
btw....even though the minutes played has gone up, the number of players is about what it was 2 months ago. This tells me that new players are playing AoC and leveling their toons. Once they get to the endgame or even lvl 65 they will hit the cancel button like over 90% of the playerbase did.
NO and NO. AoC has steadily climbed up to rank #50 meaning it had more activity increase than other MMO's. Come on, other games could not have had the same activity increase, otherwise AoC would still have been #57 (comments like what you had on this is just a plain insult to our intelligence). And no the level of players have increased from 900 (and you was the one makeing sure everybody wrote this number down by spamposting how you belive it gonna be 800 soon). Now AoC Xfire numbers are nearly 1200. That is like a +30% increase in 2-3 weeks. That is a pretty profound increase. I'd love to hear what you think gonna happen to these numbers next, but please don't lie to promote your doomish message.
The fact is that school is out. The increase in 'time played' is the same for all games. They are all up 15-20% for the last 2-3 weeks. And to stress, you are quoting 'time played'... the actual subscriber number (listed at bottom of page) has not changed.. it is 800 during the week and 1000-1100 on saturday and sundays. There aren't more people playing AOC, but the ones that are playing, are playing more per day...... because they don't have school.
AOC is still ranked between 50-60 on Xfire, the same place it has been since August.. if it were seeing such a huge increase in players, it would be moving back up the charts. The fact is that yes, AOC is seeing more gametime because of the holidays.. but so are the 50 games ranked higher than it.
The fact is that school is out. The increase in 'time played' is the same for all games. They are all up 15-20% for the last 2-3 weeks. And to stress, you are quoting 'time played'... the actual subscriber number (listed at bottom of page) has not changed.. it is 800 during the week and 1000-1100 on saturday and sundays. There aren't more people playing AOC, but the ones that are playing, are playing more per day...... because they don't have school. AOC is still ranked between 50-60 on Xfire, the same place it has been since August.. if it were seeing such a huge increase in players, it would be moving back up the charts. The fact is that yes, AOC is seeing more gametime because of the holidays.. but so are the 50 games ranked higher than it.
Someone help me. Azrile, can you plzzz read the post above you.
The fact is that school is out. The increase in 'time played' is the same for all games. They are all up 15-20% for the last 2-3 weeks. And to stress, you are quoting 'time played'... the actual subscriber number (listed at bottom of page) has not changed.. it is 800 during the week and 1000-1100 on saturday and sundays. There aren't more people playing AOC, but the ones that are playing, are playing more per day...... because they don't have school. AOC is still ranked between 50-60 on Xfire, the same place it has been since August.. if it were seeing such a huge increase in players, it would be moving back up the charts. The fact is that yes, AOC is seeing more gametime because of the holidays.. but so are the 50 games ranked higher than it.
Someone help me. Azrile, can you plzzz read the post above you.
AOC has always been bouncing between 50-60. Every once in a great while it drops below 60 for a day or two (usually patch days). It was in the mid-50s before the holidays, and it remains in the mid 50's now.
And again, it is 'played time' that is increasing, not the number of players. The number of players remains in the ranges I indicated in my post. They haven't moved at all in the past month.
And what are you really bragging about? Look at the company of games that AOC is with back there in the 50's. Are you really thrilled that AOC has surpassed Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 for a coveted spot on the list?
AOC isn't competitive with any of the big boys
WOW #1 ( 514k)
EVE #12 ( 22k)
Warhammer #15 (21k)
Lord of the Rings #22 (14k)
And then there is AOC back in the 50's with (5k) battling it out with games nobody ever heard of.
The fact is that school is out. The increase in 'time played' is the same for all games. They are all up 15-20% for the last 2-3 weeks. And to stress, you are quoting 'time played'... the actual subscriber number (listed at bottom of page) has not changed.. it is 800 during the week and 1000-1100 on saturday and sundays. There aren't more people playing AOC, but the ones that are playing, are playing more per day...... because they don't have school. AOC is still ranked between 50-60 on Xfire, the same place it has been since August.. if it were seeing such a huge increase in players, it would be moving back up the charts. The fact is that yes, AOC is seeing more gametime because of the holidays.. but so are the 50 games ranked higher than it.
Someone help me. Azrile, can you plzzz read the post above you.
AOC has always been bouncing between 50-60. Every once in a great while it drops below 60 for a day or two (usually patch days). It was in the mid-50s before the holidays, and it remains in the mid 50's now.
And again, it is 'played time' that is increasing, not the number of players. The number of players remains in the ranges I indicated in my post. They haven't moved at all in the past month.
And what are you really bragging about? Look at the company of games that AOC is with back there in the 50's. Are you really thrilled that AOC has surpassed Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 for a coveted spot on the list?
AOC isn't competitive with any of the big boys
WOW #1 ( 514k)
EVE #12 ( 22k)
Warhammer #15 (21k)
Lord of the Rings #22 (14k)
And then there is AOC back in the 50's with (5k) battling it out with games nobody ever heard of.
You mean the part where you said that the holidays are over? Which is true except for the fact that kids aren't in school yet, which is why EVERY game has seen an increase in the past 3 weeks. Let's talk again in a week or two when the kids are back in school.
You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
You mean the part where you 'subjectively' say server populations are increasing? Yeah, you and Avery can say that every day.. but it is your opinion.
Your title says that AOC's population is increasing, which is not true by anything that is measurable. The population on Xfire has remained the same 800 (weekday) and 1100(weekend) and was at the same level before the holidays.
Don't worry, the guys over at Vanguard and Shadowbane say the same things too.
You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
Some one call me when AoC gets back into the top 20 on XFire. Hard to believe the game was in the top 10 games there all of the first month and a even couple of weeks into it's second month.
The reason i believe that these numbers are suspect is all the fanbois hypeing it. If anything i will wait till 4th quarter stock reports are out and then the year end report due in March. If these guys last that long.
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You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
OK Azrile, I'll spoonfeed you. But this time make sure you read it:
Hamrtime2 made sure that AoC player no's got very well documented like 3 weeks back. He kept posting and linking in stiff telling that AoC player no's were 900, perhaps 950 in weeksends. Then ofcourse he also was spasming over how much he thought these numbers soon would be 800. Now AoC Xfire player no's have been about 1200 the last few days. This is a bit more than just another wiggle on the curve. It's +30ish % in fact.
Second thing, since you claim that AoC have been multiple times on # 50 the last month. That has not been the case in like 2-3 months. AoC was #50 2 out of the last 3 days and thats it. Now, what does these numbers mean for the number of subs. Well it's hopeless to say anything about the absolute numbers. What can be said though is that the trend is upwards and almost everybody agree on that this normally means a game are gaining subscribers. End of story.
You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
OK Azrile, I'll spoonfeed you. But this time make sure you read it:
Hamrtime2 made sure that AoC player no's got very well documented like 3 weeks back. He kept posting and linking in stiff telling that AoC player no's were 900, perhaps 950 in weeksends. Then ofcourse he also was spasming over how much he thought these numbers soon would be 800. Now AoC Xfire player no's have been about 1200 the last few days. This is a bit more than just another wiggle on the curve. It's +30ish % in fact.
Second thing, since you claim that AoC have been multiple times on # 50 the last month. That has not been the case in like 2-3 months. AoC was #50 2 out of the last 3 days and thats it. Now, what does these numbers mean for the number of subs. Well it's hopeless to say anything about the absolute numbers. What can be said though is that the trend is upwards and almost everybody agree on that this normally means a game are gaining subscribers. End of story.
Just not true. AOC has been over 1000 almost every weekend for the past 3 months. It drops down to 800 on weekdays. And again, you are talking about a time-period where kids are out of school.
And you are talking about the 'meteoric' rise of AOC from 55 to 50, and forgetting to mention that has been there multiple times in the past few months. The difference between 60 and 50 is like 2%...they shuffle all the time.
In typical Funcom fashion, you are extrapolating way too much. When (and if) AOC gets down to 40, then it will be a meaningful move... but even then, it will leave it at 1/4th the numbers of even LotRO.
You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
OK Azrile, I'll spoonfeed you. But this time make sure you read it:
Hamrtime2 made sure that AoC player no's got very well documented like 3 weeks back. He kept posting and linking in stiff telling that AoC player no's were 900, perhaps 950 in weeksends. Then ofcourse he also was spasming over how much he thought these numbers soon would be 800. Now AoC Xfire player no's have been about 1200 the last few days. This is a bit more than just another wiggle on the curve. It's +30ish % in fact.
Second thing, since you claim that AoC have been multiple times on # 50 the last month. That has not been the case in like 2-3 months. AoC was #50 2 out of the last 3 days and thats it. Now, what does these numbers mean for the number of subs. Well it's hopeless to say anything about the absolute numbers. What can be said though is that the trend is upwards and almost everybody agree on that this normally means a game are gaining subscribers. End of story.
Just not true. AOC has been over 1000 almost every weekend for the past 3 months. It drops down to 800 on weekdays. And again, you are talking about a time-period where kids are out of school.
And you are talking about the 'meteoric' rise of AOC from 55 to 50, and forgetting to mention that has been there multiple times in the past few months. The difference between 60 and 50 is like 2%...they shuffle all the time.
In typical Funcom fashion, you are extrapolating way too much. When (and if) AOC gets down to 40, then it will be a meaningful move... but even then, it will leave it at 1/4th the numbers of even LotRO.
Ohh I agree, it's much easier to discuss things after the fact, but then again any idiot can do that. What we are trying to acomplish here is to look on a very new trend, that only are like 3 weeks old, and say something intelligent about what we i.e think we'll see by next weekend or by end of Jan. What you are saying is something along the line of "ok, don't you try to deduct anything from any numbe. Wait, then read and then say what the statistic says." That's not adding forum value, thats just parrot style posting.
No, it's just common sense. You can't predict a 'trend' from numbers that have gone up and down in the same range in the past. The number you keep saying '50' is nothing new.. it's something that we've seen from AOC many times in the past 3 months.
You could have started this thread about 10 times in the past 3 months and posted the exact same numbers. " WOW, AOC has jumped from 55 to 50 in the past few days". Every time it has accomplished this feat in the past, it has lost those spots just as quickly.
If AOC jumps to 40, then it will be something new... and I'll be sure to remind you of this thread the next time it hits #58.
Let me guess the official forums posters that brought you "lets all spam vote AoC as game of the Year on poll X at site Y", have now asked everyone "Please install XFire so we can get AoCs stats up!"
The level of fanboi denial attached to this game is amazing, dunno why they still want to hype it, maybe change tactics and go for "Best kept secret" marketing.
I am sure there are people who enjoy playing AoC. But there are so many more people who dont. Failing to see the truth, is not helping the current subscribers or people considering to spend money on buying the game.
Speaking of myself, I would never trust Funcom again after all the hype pre launch. I did a mistake by being one of the fanbois back then.. believeing in anything that Funcom said. I learned from this alot.
Truth sometimes hurts if you get attached to some hype or idea. Are you willing to want the truth more than feel good?
Let me guess the official forums posters that brought you "lets all spam vote AoC as game of the Year on poll X at site Y", have now asked everyone "Please install XFire so we can get AoCs stats up!"
The level of fanboi denial attached to this game is amazing, dunno why they still want to hype it, maybe change tactics and go for "Best kept secret" marketing.
What you are failing to notice is the two biggest 'hypers' are both from Norway.
Its a fact the population is increasing. I really noticed the central areas being quite busy and its common to run into several people in the wild. Global chat is non stop and my trade items are now selling on a weekly basis. I know 2 friends who joined this week and are loving it and the guild has had its ranks swelled in the last two weeks by new players and mean completely new, not resubs and from what they say it seems they will stick around as well.
I just posted a thread about the new Conan film generating more subs for the game. From this point I can see AoC being a solid title for quite a while. I think half of it is the character differences. I have played 5 now and they are so different it feels like a different game when fighting etc.
Its a fact the population is increasing. I really noticed the central areas being quite busy and its common to run into several people in the wild. Global chat is non stop and my trade items are now selling on a weekly basis. I know 2 friends who joined this week and are loving it and the guild has had its ranks swelled in the last two weeks by new players and mean completely new, not resubs and from what they say it seems they will stick around as well. I just posted a thread about the new Conan film generating more subs for the game. From this point I can see AoC being a solid title for quite a while. I think half of it is the character differences. I have played 5 now and they are so different it feels like a different game when fighting etc.
Yup sounds like FunCom stock will be back up to 55 NOK per share any day now, hell I bet FC would settle for it gettin to the 17 it was 1 yr prior to AoC Hindenberg I mean launch.
On my (new) server (EU RP-PVP), a quick straw poll in global chat suggested 3 complete newbies (ie had just bought the game), a couple new to server (but not to game) and several returnees from the beta / launch period. This was out of 20 or so actively chatting on global chat late at night. Of course, we couldn't poll for who had left in the last 2 weeks and some (myself included) are zero gain (one server gains as another loses a player). Encouraging but a long way to go before we start popping the champagne corks.
Conan is a very devisive game. Some (myself included) love the atmosphere and mechanics, others do not. If that were the only problem, I think it could still be a great second tier game with a strong dedicated core player base. However, as we all know, the launch was VERY badly mishandled (tech bugs, broken promises, lack of content etc etc) and left a bad taste in peoples mouths and a bad rep for the compnay behind the that for some will never go away (ex players and even some who still play!). I don't want to see if fail (I still play and enjoy it) but I'm loathe to commit to a 6 renewal again, not because I don't want to play but because I'm not convinced the company behind the game will survive in the current climate.
AoC population/activity/interest have now been on the rise over the last 4 weeks. Everyones beloved Xfire statistics show higher activitynumbers than in a very very long time, and the holiday season is kind of over?? www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/. Also looking on other games like WoW, LotRO, EVE and other less important MMOs AoC's trend of +15-20% pr week seem to stand out as special. Also other media like iGoogle show increased number of searches/interest for Age of Conan www.google.com/insights/search/#q=Age%20of%20Conan%2CLord%20of%20the%20Rings%20Online&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q Also numerous posts in the AoC official forums report of returning players and increased activity. Based on this it looks for sure like the FC team has something good going. It is however hard to quantify the size of this increase. It would be interesting to hear (from AoC players in particular) what kind of trend they see in game.
Hell even TL server see the population increase. A lot of the initial betatesters coming back. These guys are really good people to have on the team and a couple of them have already organized several TL raids. Having these guys on the team are very important as they form the core of the community.
Also numerous posts in the AoC official forums report of returning players and increased activity. Based on this it looks for sure like the FC team has something good going. It is however hard to quantify the size of this increase. It would be interesting to hear (from AoC players in particular) what kind of trend they see in game.
A lot of the people who are coming back, are just trying out the new content Ymir's Pass and some of the other changes. IMO, Funcom has not done enough to keep these people who are trying AOC again. After a month there going to quit again. This is probably why Funcom has not released a Veteran free trial yet, because they know they havent done enough to keep them from leaving after there free trial is over...
Originally posted by OrionMan OK dmn guys. This is not a coincidence anymore. Xfire numbers went even up another notch. This is like the 6th 2 month record in like 2 weeks. Say what you want, but I have not seen AoC #50 and sniffing on the ranks in the 40s in a very long time. Xfire players No. are about 1200. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ Cool, my thirsty sword will finally get the chance to bath in Moaner/Quiter blood. Mohahahahaaa!!!
Once again more hypocrisy. If xfire doesnt suit them then it means that xfire is meaningless and shouldnt even be considered as an indicator of the population of AoC because people who play AoC dont use xfire. Once the xfire numbers go up (like they did in every mmo over the holidays) then it means that AoC is getting popular again and the game will be saved. You cant have it both ways. Either support the fact that xfire IS an indicator of a games population or dont post about it at all. btw....even though the minutes played has gone up, the number of players is about what it was 2 months ago. This tells me that new players are playing AoC and leveling their toons. Once they get to the endgame or even lvl 65 they will hit the cancel button like over 90% of the playerbase did.
NO and NO. AoC has steadily climbed up to rank #50 meaning it had more activity increase than other MMO's. Come on, other games could not have had the same activity increase, otherwise AoC would still have been #57 (comments like what you had on this is just a plain insult to our intelligence). And no the level of players have increased from 900 (and you was the one makeing sure everybody wrote this number down by spamposting how you belive it gonna be 800 soon). Now AoC Xfire numbers are nearly 1200. That is like a +30% increase in 2-3 weeks. That is a pretty profound increase. I'd love to hear what you think gonna happen to these numbers next, but please don't lie to promote your doomish message.
HAHAHA! Should I dig up posts from you about xfire not meaning anything about AoC? Like I said....pure hypocrisy. Maybe I will dig up some of your posts from back in October where you say the population in AoC is increasing. Or how about your post about the stock price of Funcom (was around 6 nok at the time)going up after they laid off a bunch of folks.
AoC has seen a small spike in players but it will soon be back in the basement in a month or so. But I do look forward to more of "the population is increasing" threads. Maybe you should just copy and paste one from September. It would save yah some time.
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OK dmn guys. This is not a coincidence anymore. Xfire numbers went even up another notch. This is like the 6th 2 month record in like 2 weeks. Say what you want, but I have not seen AoC #50 and sniffing on the ranks in the 40s in a very long time. Xfire players No. are about 1200. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/
Cool, my thirsty sword will finally get the chance to bath in Moaner/Quiter blood. Mohahahahaaa!!!
Once again more hypocrisy.
If xfire doesnt suit them then it means that xfire is meaningless and shouldnt even be considered as an indicator of the population of AoC because people who play AoC dont use xfire.
Once the xfire numbers go up (like they did in every mmo over the holidays) then it means that AoC is getting popular again and the game will be saved. You cant have it both ways. Either support the fact that xfire IS an indicator of a games population or dont post about it at all.
btw....even though the minutes played has gone up, the number of players is about what it was 2 months ago. This tells me that new players are playing AoC and leveling their toons. Once they get to the endgame or even lvl 65 they will hit the cancel button like over 90% of the playerbase did.
Once again more hypocrisy.
If xfire doesnt suit them then it means that xfire is meaningless and shouldnt even be considered as an indicator of the population of AoC because people who play AoC dont use xfire.
Once the xfire numbers go up (like they did in every mmo over the holidays) then it means that AoC is getting popular again and the game will be saved. You cant have it both ways. Either support the fact that xfire IS an indicator of a games population or dont post about it at all.
btw....even though the minutes played has gone up, the number of players is about what it was 2 months ago. This tells me that new players are playing AoC and leveling their toons. Once they get to the endgame or even lvl 65 they will hit the cancel button like over 90% of the playerbase did.
NO and NO. AoC has steadily climbed up to rank #50 meaning it had more activity increase than other MMO's. Come on, other games could not have had the same activity increase, otherwise AoC would still have been #57 (comments like what you had on this is just a plain insult to our intelligence). And no the level of players have increased from 900 (and you was the one makeing sure everybody wrote this number down by spamposting how you belive it gonna be 800 soon). Now AoC Xfire numbers are nearly 1200. That is like a +30% increase in 2-3 weeks. That is a pretty profound increase. I'd love to hear what you think gonna happen to these numbers next, but please don't lie to promote your doomish message.
The fact is that school is out. The increase in 'time played' is the same for all games. They are all up 15-20% for the last 2-3 weeks. And to stress, you are quoting 'time played'... the actual subscriber number (listed at bottom of page) has not changed.. it is 800 during the week and 1000-1100 on saturday and sundays. There aren't more people playing AOC, but the ones that are playing, are playing more per day...... because they don't have school.
AOC is still ranked between 50-60 on Xfire, the same place it has been since August.. if it were seeing such a huge increase in players, it would be moving back up the charts. The fact is that yes, AOC is seeing more gametime because of the holidays.. but so are the 50 games ranked higher than it.
Someone help me. Azrile, can you plzzz read the post above you.
Someone help me. Azrile, can you plzzz read the post above you.
AOC has always been bouncing between 50-60. Every once in a great while it drops below 60 for a day or two (usually patch days). It was in the mid-50s before the holidays, and it remains in the mid 50's now.
And again, it is 'played time' that is increasing, not the number of players. The number of players remains in the ranges I indicated in my post. They haven't moved at all in the past month.
And what are you really bragging about? Look at the company of games that AOC is with back there in the 50's. Are you really thrilled that AOC has surpassed Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 for a coveted spot on the list?
AOC isn't competitive with any of the big boys
WOW #1 ( 514k)
EVE #12 ( 22k)
Warhammer #15 (21k)
Lord of the Rings #22 (14k)
And then there is AOC back in the 50's with (5k) battling it out with games nobody ever heard of.
Someone help me. Azrile, can you plzzz read the post above you.
AOC has always been bouncing between 50-60. Every once in a great while it drops below 60 for a day or two (usually patch days). It was in the mid-50s before the holidays, and it remains in the mid 50's now.
And again, it is 'played time' that is increasing, not the number of players. The number of players remains in the ranges I indicated in my post. They haven't moved at all in the past month.
And what are you really bragging about? Look at the company of games that AOC is with back there in the 50's. Are you really thrilled that AOC has surpassed Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 for a coveted spot on the list?
AOC isn't competitive with any of the big boys
WOW #1 ( 514k)
EVE #12 ( 22k)
Warhammer #15 (21k)
Lord of the Rings #22 (14k)
And then there is AOC back in the 50's with (5k) battling it out with games nobody ever heard of.
Again. Did you read my post. Try again.
You mean the part where you said that the holidays are over? Which is true except for the fact that kids aren't in school yet, which is why EVERY game has seen an increase in the past 3 weeks. Let's talk again in a week or two when the kids are back in school.
You mean the part where you said that it has increased on Xfire rankings? except for the fact that it hasn't. It's still in the 50's, the same place it always has been. Do you really want to get into the argument that moving from 55 to 53 is a big deal when those number change every day. 4 weeks ago AOC was in the 50's, and this week it is in the 50s.
You mean the part where you 'subjectively' say server populations are increasing? Yeah, you and Avery can say that every day.. but it is your opinion.
Your title says that AOC's population is increasing, which is not true by anything that is measurable. The population on Xfire has remained the same 800 (weekday) and 1100(weekend) and was at the same level before the holidays.
Don't worry, the guys over at Vanguard and Shadowbane say the same things too.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
Some one call me when AoC gets back into the top 20 on XFire. Hard to believe the game was in the top 10 games there all of the first month and a even couple of weeks into it's second month.
I miss DAoC
The reason i believe that these numbers are suspect is all the fanbois hypeing it. If anything i will wait till 4th quarter stock reports are out and then the year end report due in March. If these guys last that long.
MAGA
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
OK Azrile, I'll spoonfeed you. But this time make sure you read it:
Hamrtime2 made sure that AoC player no's got very well documented like 3 weeks back. He kept posting and linking in stiff telling that AoC player no's were 900, perhaps 950 in weeksends. Then ofcourse he also was spasming over how much he thought these numbers soon would be 800. Now AoC Xfire player no's have been about 1200 the last few days. This is a bit more than just another wiggle on the curve. It's +30ish % in fact.
Second thing, since you claim that AoC have been multiple times on # 50 the last month. That has not been the case in like 2-3 months. AoC was #50 2 out of the last 3 days and thats it. Now, what does these numbers mean for the number of subs. Well it's hopeless to say anything about the absolute numbers. What can be said though is that the trend is upwards and almost everybody agree on that this normally means a game are gaining subscribers. End of story.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
OK Azrile, I'll spoonfeed you. But this time make sure you read it:
Hamrtime2 made sure that AoC player no's got very well documented like 3 weeks back. He kept posting and linking in stiff telling that AoC player no's were 900, perhaps 950 in weeksends. Then ofcourse he also was spasming over how much he thought these numbers soon would be 800. Now AoC Xfire player no's have been about 1200 the last few days. This is a bit more than just another wiggle on the curve. It's +30ish % in fact.
Second thing, since you claim that AoC have been multiple times on # 50 the last month. That has not been the case in like 2-3 months. AoC was #50 2 out of the last 3 days and thats it. Now, what does these numbers mean for the number of subs. Well it's hopeless to say anything about the absolute numbers. What can be said though is that the trend is upwards and almost everybody agree on that this normally means a game are gaining subscribers. End of story.
Just not true. AOC has been over 1000 almost every weekend for the past 3 months. It drops down to 800 on weekdays. And again, you are talking about a time-period where kids are out of school.
And you are talking about the 'meteoric' rise of AOC from 55 to 50, and forgetting to mention that has been there multiple times in the past few months. The difference between 60 and 50 is like 2%...they shuffle all the time.
In typical Funcom fashion, you are extrapolating way too much. When (and if) AOC gets down to 40, then it will be a meaningful move... but even then, it will leave it at 1/4th the numbers of even LotRO.
4 weeks ago it was around 56 - 58 - 60. As late as last week it was at 56. And checking my retailer of choice it has climbed that chart pretty much aswell over the last month.
It is not that far fetched to believe that AoC has gained some subscriptions/customers.
But that is the thing.... from 50-60 the games are seperated by a very small percentage. Every single day those games switch positions. AoC has been up to 50 numerous times in the past 3 months, and then it goes back to 58, then to 55 etc.
The OP started a thread to highlight a very temporary and often repeated 'surge'. Would you like for me to start a thread every time AOC falls from 52 to 56? It has probably happened a dozen times in the past few months.
When AOC gets into the low 40's, then it would be an interesting development. But 'surging' to 52 isn't news, it happens every week and later gives up those spots.
OK Azrile, I'll spoonfeed you. But this time make sure you read it:
Hamrtime2 made sure that AoC player no's got very well documented like 3 weeks back. He kept posting and linking in stiff telling that AoC player no's were 900, perhaps 950 in weeksends. Then ofcourse he also was spasming over how much he thought these numbers soon would be 800. Now AoC Xfire player no's have been about 1200 the last few days. This is a bit more than just another wiggle on the curve. It's +30ish % in fact.
Second thing, since you claim that AoC have been multiple times on # 50 the last month. That has not been the case in like 2-3 months. AoC was #50 2 out of the last 3 days and thats it. Now, what does these numbers mean for the number of subs. Well it's hopeless to say anything about the absolute numbers. What can be said though is that the trend is upwards and almost everybody agree on that this normally means a game are gaining subscribers. End of story.
Just not true. AOC has been over 1000 almost every weekend for the past 3 months. It drops down to 800 on weekdays. And again, you are talking about a time-period where kids are out of school.
And you are talking about the 'meteoric' rise of AOC from 55 to 50, and forgetting to mention that has been there multiple times in the past few months. The difference between 60 and 50 is like 2%...they shuffle all the time.
In typical Funcom fashion, you are extrapolating way too much. When (and if) AOC gets down to 40, then it will be a meaningful move... but even then, it will leave it at 1/4th the numbers of even LotRO.
Ohh I agree, it's much easier to discuss things after the fact, but then again any idiot can do that. What we are trying to acomplish here is to look on a very new trend, that only are like 3 weeks old, and say something intelligent about what we i.e think we'll see by next weekend or by end of Jan. What you are saying is something along the line of "ok, don't you try to deduct anything from any numbe. Wait, then read and then say what the statistic says." That's not adding forum value, thats just parrot style posting.
No, it's just common sense. You can't predict a 'trend' from numbers that have gone up and down in the same range in the past. The number you keep saying '50' is nothing new.. it's something that we've seen from AOC many times in the past 3 months.
You could have started this thread about 10 times in the past 3 months and posted the exact same numbers. " WOW, AOC has jumped from 55 to 50 in the past few days". Every time it has accomplished this feat in the past, it has lost those spots just as quickly.
If AOC jumps to 40, then it will be something new... and I'll be sure to remind you of this thread the next time it hits #58.
Let me guess the official forums posters that brought you "lets all spam vote AoC as game of the Year on poll X at site Y", have now asked everyone "Please install XFire so we can get AoCs stats up!"
The level of fanboi denial attached to this game is amazing, dunno why they still want to hype it, maybe change tactics and go for "Best kept secret" marketing.
AoC does not need more hype.
I am sure there are people who enjoy playing AoC. But there are so many more people who dont. Failing to see the truth, is not helping the current subscribers or people considering to spend money on buying the game.
Speaking of myself, I would never trust Funcom again after all the hype pre launch. I did a mistake by being one of the fanbois back then.. believeing in anything that Funcom said. I learned from this alot.
Truth sometimes hurts if you get attached to some hype or idea. Are you willing to want the truth more than feel good?
Best luck if theres anything like that!
What you are failing to notice is the two biggest 'hypers' are both from Norway.
Its a fact the population is increasing. I really noticed the central areas being quite busy and its common to run into several people in the wild. Global chat is non stop and my trade items are now selling on a weekly basis. I know 2 friends who joined this week and are loving it and the guild has had its ranks swelled in the last two weeks by new players and mean completely new, not resubs and from what they say it seems they will stick around as well.
I just posted a thread about the new Conan film generating more subs for the game. From this point I can see AoC being a solid title for quite a while. I think half of it is the character differences. I have played 5 now and they are so different it feels like a different game when fighting etc.
Yup sounds like FunCom stock will be back up to 55 NOK per share any day now, hell I bet FC would settle for it gettin to the 17 it was 1 yr prior to AoC Hindenberg I mean launch.
On my (new) server (EU RP-PVP), a quick straw poll in global chat suggested 3 complete newbies (ie had just bought the game), a couple new to server (but not to game) and several returnees from the beta / launch period. This was out of 20 or so actively chatting on global chat late at night. Of course, we couldn't poll for who had left in the last 2 weeks and some (myself included) are zero gain (one server gains as another loses a player). Encouraging but a long way to go before we start popping the champagne corks.
Conan is a very devisive game. Some (myself included) love the atmosphere and mechanics, others do not. If that were the only problem, I think it could still be a great second tier game with a strong dedicated core player base. However, as we all know, the launch was VERY badly mishandled (tech bugs, broken promises, lack of content etc etc) and left a bad taste in peoples mouths and a bad rep for the compnay behind the that for some will never go away (ex players and even some who still play!). I don't want to see if fail (I still play and enjoy it) but I'm loathe to commit to a 6 renewal again, not because I don't want to play but because I'm not convinced the company behind the game will survive in the current climate.
Sad but true imho.
S.
Hell even TL server see the population increase. A lot of the initial betatesters coming back. These guys are really good people to have on the team and a couple of them have already organized several TL raids. Having these guys on the team are very important as they form the core of the community.
A lot of the people who are coming back, are just trying out the new content Ymir's Pass and some of the other changes. IMO, Funcom has not done enough to keep these people who are trying AOC again. After a month there going to quit again. This is probably why Funcom has not released a Veteran free trial yet, because they know they havent done enough to keep them from leaving after there free trial is over...
HAHAHA! Should I dig up posts from you about xfire not meaning anything about AoC? Like I said....pure hypocrisy. Maybe I will dig up some of your posts from back in October where you say the population in AoC is increasing. Or how about your post about the stock price of Funcom (was around 6 nok at the time)going up after they laid off a bunch of folks.
AoC has seen a small spike in players but it will soon be back in the basement in a month or so. But I do look forward to more of "the population is increasing" threads. Maybe you should just copy and paste one from September. It would save yah some time.