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Enough is Enough: WTF.

Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093

I guess I'm just slow..  But lets look at the facts via event lines:

Nov. 10th..  next phase of beta. ( for a game that's been ready for at least a year)

-- This was meant nothing.  They were opening more servers for more testers.  How is is the relevant now?  If one server can hold 10k users.. and they opened more servers.. but have LESS than 10k users.. Why does this matter (it's not retorical.  Would someone tell me why this matters?)

Begining of Dec. . END of open beta.

-- This NEVER happened  There has yet to be an OPEN beta.  It's a very very important thing for a company to have some sort of STRESS test for the servers.  bots cannot accomplish this.

Sometime in Dec... Release date

-- Fine.  The date was pushed to Jan. 22nd.  But note: The game is READY for release on the 5th of Dec. Per Tasos.

Dec. 25th.. ONE! beta key for one lucky forum user at mmorpg.ita. 

--For use with the PRESS BETA happening in EARLY january (like EARLY december's open beta??)

EARLY january--Press Beta.. still not happening.  The Press.. Gathers information to report to folks like you and me.  Even with an NDA intact, a press beta wouldn't have ot adhere (or they wouldn't have to sign) a document saying they couldn't say they were in Beta.

OPEN COFFEE -- Nothing happened here.  Just an event to prove that Aventurine is a real company, and that Darkfall is a real game.

 

 

What gives?  I dont' knwo how any one can honestly expect them to release the game on Jan 22nd, when they have yet to hit ANY date or timeframe posted...

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  • OddW0rldsOddW0rlds Member Posts: 40

  • ZerocydeZerocyde Member UncommonPosts: 412
    Originally posted by Random_mage


    I guess I'm just slow..  But lets look at the facts via event lines:
    Nov. 10th..  next phase of beta. ( for a game that's been ready for at least a year)
    -- This was meant nothing.  They were opening more servers for more testers.  How is is the relevant now?  If one server can hold 10k users.. and they opened more servers.. but have LESS than 10k users.. Why does this matter (it's not retorical.  Would someone tell me why this matters?)
    Begining of Dec. . END of open beta.
    -- This NEVER happened  There has yet to be an OPEN beta.  It's a very very important thing for a company to have some sort of STRESS test for the servers.  bots cannot accomplish this.
    Sometime in Dec... Release date
    -- Fine.  The date was pushed to Jan. 22nd.  But note: The game is READY for release on the 5th of Dec. Per Tasos.
    Dec. 25th.. ONE! beta key for one lucky forum user at mmorpg.ita. 
    --For use with the PRESS BETA happening in EARLY january (like EARLY december's open beta??)
    EARLY january--Press Beta.. still not happening.  The Press.. Gathers information to report to folks like you and me.  Even with an NDA intact, a press beta wouldn't have ot adhere (or they wouldn't have to sign) a document saying they couldn't say they were in Beta.
    OPEN COFFEE -- Nothing happened here.  Just an event to prove that Aventurine is a real company, and that Darkfall is a real game.
     
     
    What gives?  I dont' knwo how any one can honestly expect them to release the game on Jan 22nd, when they have yet to hit ANY date or timeframe posted...

     

    Well according to the leaks everyone in closed beta says the game is finished and ready for retail and cant see a reason why they would delay further.

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  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410

    Ignore all those inconsequential earthly matters, cherish your unshakable belief in the white border over these trials and tribulations.

    Tasos is only testing are faith one last time before the rapture is upon us.

  • AramanuAramanu Member Posts: 157

    have you thought about the other things that need to be setup as well, like billing system, account system etc etc plenty of out-of-game things to setup.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078
    Originally posted by Aramanu


    have you thought about the other things that need to be setup as well, like billing system, account system etc etc plenty of out-of-game things to setup.

     

    True enough, setting up an MMO is serious business.  Still not convinced the folks at Aventurine really understand this business.  They have till the 22nd to confirm one way or another.

     

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  • HazmalHazmal Member CommonPosts: 1,013
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Ignore all those inconsequential earthly matters, cherish your unshakable belief in the white border over these trials and tribulations.
    Tasos is only testing are faith one last time before the rapture is upon us.



     

     Praised be the blessed word!

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    well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
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  • almerelalmerel Member UncommonPosts: 658
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Ignore all those inconsequential earthly matters, cherish your unshakable belief in the white border over these trials and tribulations.
    Tasos is only testing are faith one last time before the rapture is upon us.

    Praise to the holy prophet

    -Almerel

    Hello my old friend.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    yeah, launch is 7 days away, and i cannot foresee this game coming out any time soon. They have no billing system setup, no distribution, no customer support, and according to the "leaks", there are still functions which have not been enabled or put in yet.

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  • GoolzGoolz Member Posts: 20

    Pulling another dark & light, bet a pre-order page goes up a few days before release and then they sod off on hoilday.

  • Alden120Alden120 Member Posts: 69

    Good points, and as far as im concerned if nothing is posted in terms of news before the end of the week, then Aventurine making release doesn't look to hopeful. We're all in the dark anyways so who knows what could be happening behind the scenes. Just hope for the 22nd, if not then shit, that sucks!

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  • LordSkaalLordSkaal Member Posts: 35

    Im not the type of person to flame any one.. yet alone a game.

     

    But you would have to be bonkers to go out and buy this game when its out without seeing anything..heard anything..

    with all the things missing.. and with no news .. some thing just seems really fishy..

     

    Either its a clever ploy and want gamers to feel a fresh experince without testers saying everything about it.. or.. its dark and light verison 2.. and to be honest..the graghics look horrid anyway..

     

    i hope im wrong and this game does well.. we need a new mmo that is worth while..

  • almerelalmerel Member UncommonPosts: 658
    Originally posted by templarga




    Simple as this - if open beta does not happen tomorrow, any faith I have in this game will be gone.

    Do not lose the faith brother.

     

    OT- I agree I want to know at a min where the client dl is. I can figure out if my comp runs the game after I have it installed. I can't however do that with out the client.

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  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Zerocyde


     
    Well according to the leaks everyone in closed beta says the game is finished and ready for retail and cant see a reason why they would delay further.

    Seriously?   What beta-leaks have you been reading?

     

    The vast majority of the leaks I've read talk about how many Features aren't even turned on yet.

     

    But yeah, I'm sure they've already tested those Features and just want to keep them a surprise...

  • TurnellTurnell Member Posts: 239

    I understand that after MMO releases like AoC, and to a lesser extent WAR, MMO players have been very cautious about new MMORPGs. However both AoC and WAR had a significant anti-game campaign against them before each game went live. It may be that keeping Darkfall information limited is a way for Adventurine to prevent malicious posting prior to release

  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093
    Originally posted by Turnell


    I understand that after MMO releases like AoC, and to a lesser extent WAR, MMO players have been very cautious about new MMORPGs. However both AoC and WAR had a significant anti-game campaign against them before each game went live. It may be that keeping Darkfall information limited is a way for Adventurine to prevent malicious posting prior to release

    It GREATLY tarnishes their already horrible reputation (Aventurine) by not sticking to their own schedule, and not explaining why they aren't sticking to their own schedule.  You'd figure after the POST AoC debacle, honesty is a better policy than silence.  In the wake of a game like Dark And Light, a game that Darkfall resembles in maket share, Darkfall has a lot of ground to make up.

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  • BlodplsBlodpls Member Posts: 1,454
    Originally posted by Turnell


    I understand that after MMO releases like AoC, and to a lesser extent WAR, MMO players have been very cautious about new MMORPGs. However both AoC and WAR had a significant anti-game campaign against them before each game went live. It may be that keeping Darkfall information limited is a way for Adventurine to prevent malicious posting prior to release

     

    Yes I can sort of see your point.  Not sure I agree 100% but if you don't know anything you can't complain about anything except not knowing, which just makes you look like a spoiled brat.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Zerocyde


    Well according to the leaks everyone in closed beta says the game is finished and ready for retail and cant see a reason why they would delay further.

     

    That doesn't really make an excuse to not have a stress test.

    The OP is worried about the fact that they only tested the beta on a lot fewer people than we actually should see on a server. He have a good point, opening up a server for 10K people when you only tried it for 500 could turn really nasty.

  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by Zerocyde


    Well according to the leaks everyone in closed beta says the game is finished and ready for retail and cant see a reason why they would delay further.

     

    That doesn't really make an excuse to not have a stress test.

    The OP is worried about the fact that they only tested the beta on a lot fewer people than we actually should see on a server. He have a good point, opening up a server for 10K people when you only tried it for 500 could turn really nasty.



     

    I'm not so much worried about it.  There are a lot more things in this world to worry about.

    But, this company really needs to stop misleading the public.

    Have you noticed that the fanbois have almost completely dried up?

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Goolz


    Pulling another dark & light, bet a pre-order page goes up a few days before release and then they sod off on hoilday.

    actully there will be no pre orders

  • SeeroSeero Member UncommonPosts: 72
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by Aramanu


    have you thought about the other things that need to be setup as well, like billing system, account system etc etc plenty of out-of-game things to setup.

     

    True enough, setting up an MMO is serious business.  Still not convinced the folks at Aventurine really understand this business.  They have till the 22nd to confirm one way or another.

     

     

    Judging by the amount of chatter and hype that has been generated over this game, I'd say they understand it pretty well.

  • ForumfallForumfall Member Posts: 570

    I see an epic fail coming. Ofcourse l will try DF just so in 20 years I can say: I was there and it was hilarious.

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  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093
    Originally posted by Seero

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by Aramanu


    have you thought about the other things that need to be setup as well, like billing system, account system etc etc plenty of out-of-game things to setup.

     

    True enough, setting up an MMO is serious business.  Still not convinced the folks at Aventurine really understand this business.  They have till the 22nd to confirm one way or another.

     

     

    Judging by the amount of chatter and hype that has been generated over this game, I'd say they understand it pretty well.



     

    What? Selling games? Or creating a good product?? I fail to see your logic.

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  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938

    How this is going to be released come said date is utterly beyond me. Good luck fanboys - you'll need it!

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