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Darkfall: Darkfall Launch Delayed

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  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525

     Who wants to bet the greatest amount of entertainment this game will ever provide will be from threads like this one?  Today’s announcement provides exactly the kind of amusement that we’ve come to expect from Aventurine.

    Originally posted by Ciano


    What is with the rampant hatred of Darkfall? It hasn't even come out yet and there are quite a few people who would love to see it fail? You stated that you or WOW players were not afraid of Darkfall. If you are not afraid of it then why do you hate it so much?
    I don't think I have ever seen a game trashed so much before it's release. I've seen this kind of hype if not more, but never this much controversy.

    Since you clearly haven’t been following the development of this game over the years, here’s why there's so much controversy:

    How about an arrogant Lead Developer who treats the MMORPG community like garbage combined with a community of fan-followers who defend the developer and even praise him for treating them like garbage. All while blindly swallowing his hype without question and insisting to everyone that this game is going to be the most incredible thing ever even though there was nothing to back them up for years.

    How about company making grandiose claims about their game without providing any real proof at all during a long and very rocky development. No reviews by game critics or no public demos, nothing. Only in the last few months have there a few interviews and some videos and blogs released by hand-picked cronies.

    Now Aventurine is FINALLY suggesting that they may provide some real proof in the form of a client to the public. But you may just have to pre-order the game first

    And yet there are still those defending Aventurine.   For years there was no proof at all and the followers of this game just accepted everything spewing out of Tasos like it was gospel.   The MMORPG community deserves better. We have seen developers that treat their community better like Turbine, Mythic and Blizzard (yes, Blizzard’s community treatment has been far superior to Aventurine)

    And yet people still praise Tasos for his arrogance even after making statements like:

    Tasos Flambouras:  Darkfall could launch today. It's more ready for launch than most, if not all of the MMORPG titles at the same stage that I've personally sampled and it has been for quite some time. Everything has been tested internally and since November 10th we've been using an ever-growing number of external testers.

    Arrogance is only justified when you back it up with competence.  We’ve had little save talk from Aventurine for years and now it’s coming down to the wire.   One week before their release, they make all of these changes that they once proudly held up to show their superiority like no Pre-Orders.

    Waiting one week before the release date is classic Aventurine.   Either they knew there would be a delay months ago and they decided to conceal it from the community. Or they’re totally clueless and only just now realized they needed more time.

    As long as there are those willing to let company’s like Aventurine get away with this kind of garbage and blindly believe their hype, developers will keep trying to get away with it. We saw it with McQuaid and Vangaurd, we saw it with Garriott and Tabula Rasa. It’s time to learn the lesson. Most everyone posting in this thread has figured it out.  Everyone who really believes Darkfall is Most Anticipated Game of the Year still needs to learn it.

     

  • ShaludShalud Member Posts: 45

    no harm done, all the people that refuse to buy the game now and whine immensely were simply the WoW/WAR noobs that were going to quit after a month anyways.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    Originally posted by Shalud


    no harm done, all the people that refuse to buy the game now and whine immensely were simply the WoW/WAR noobs that were going to quit after a month anyways.



     

    At least they will not be QQ'ing on the 26th of February crying here on the forums about how they have been scammed.

    Cheers

  • DDT75itaDDT75ita Member Posts: 1

    no comment

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    hahahha

     

    SHOCKING!!

     

    absolutely shocking!!

     

    no really...

     

    no seriously, it's shocking that it was delayed...seriously shocking

     

    seriously.

     

    haha

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • Tyvolus1Tyvolus1 Member Posts: 815
    Originally posted by Paragus1


    The people posting here and on the DF forums are a classic exmaple of stupidity run rampant.   We just watched 2 of the most anticipated MMOs in years come out in 2008 and land in virtual quicksand as they sank away into almost nothing.   The reason is what we have seen time and time again, a bad launch.  You can't recover from it.  If Warhammer and AoC had launched with the content and polish they have today, they both would be doing a lot better. 
    While it can be disappointing to have to wait, if you want the game to succeed, you need it to be as good as possible when it goes live.  Another 4 weeks is not the end of the world compared to the delays other games have issued, and considering how long we have been waiting.  Getting it right has always been the most important thing, especially for a first impression.  Nobody wins if an MMO fails, so it puzzles me why so many people are praying for the failure of this game when the market is already saturated with cookie-cutter theme park MMOs that do little to innovate or give players the freedom befitting of anygame classified as an RPG.

    at least those two games came out.  No one here can say with any degree of certainty that this game will EVER come out.  There are so many red flags surrounding this fiasco of a game it is almost scary.  It is vaporware until I see a box on a store shelf as far as I am concerned.

     

  • sharifsharif Member UncommonPosts: 28

    i agree

  • ArthineasArthineas Member Posts: 231

    I have said it before and I will say it again.  Darkfall reminds me so much of Mourning Online.  Tons of promises, yet showing nothing. 

    I have played and watched closely various mmorpgs since Ultima Online came out. Darkfall is following the same pattern as Mourning Online.  I predict that if it is released, it will be an empty shell of a game just like Mourning Online and Dark and Light. 

  • velimiriusvelimirius Member UncommonPosts: 134

    lol delayed again

    maybe  after this one they will delay it for another 10 years

  • PorthiosPorthios Member Posts: 35
    Originally posted by Guillermo197

    Originally posted by itchees

    Originally posted by Guillermo197

    Originally posted by Galadourn


     

    you should be reported and legally prosecuted for spreading false rumors.

    The publisher for Darkfall is Audio Visual Enterprises. Its CEO is Ioannis Kourtesis. You can see him sign in all Fiscal Reports.

    AVE is also traded in the stock exchange. Spreading rumors about a public company with the potential to damage its market status is a CRIME in all western legal systems.

     

    Although this looks like a spam mail coming from Nigeria or dunno where...

     

    LOL! You have no clue do you!

    As long as they selll you a box or a digital download and have a game server running where you can log into, they stay clear and get away with it. Aka Dark and Light.

    That the gameworld is largely empty and 95% of the features listed on a 5 year old website aren't in the game or severely bugged... that doesn't matter. As you forgot to read the tiny letters on the bottom when you paid for the game.

    So there is no crime. It's called a scam! And you know what a good scam is? The perfect crime they can get away with unpunished!

    Vanguard was the biggest scam of 2007 and Sigil even being situated in the US!

    Why wasn't there any lawsuit against them or SOE?

    Age of Conan was the biggest scam of 2008!

    Why wasn't there any lawsuit against Funcom?

     

    I rest my case.

    Cheers

     

    In your haste to bash someone else, you didnt take the time to understand what he was talking about. Therefore, you look like an idiot.

    He isnt talking about the state of the game, but wether or not that Dan antonescu guy is related to audio visual or not.

     

    I reacted on the overal discussion and about what is a crime and what is a scam.

    I removed a lot of quotes, otherwise it would have become unreadable.

    Cheers

     

     

    Congratulations, you still fail. Dan A. is not affiliated with the company, period. So what Galadourn originally stated was true, and still remains very... very true.

  • EkibiogamiEkibiogami Member UncommonPosts: 2,154

    Hahaha

    Im honestly feeling sorry for all you Pvpers Lol

    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
    —Samuel Adams

  • ougaritougarit Member Posts: 317
    Originally posted by Arthineas


    I have said it before and I will say it again.  Darkfall reminds me so much of Mourning Online.  Tons of promises, yet showing nothing. 
    I have played and watched closely various mmorpgs since Ultima Online came out. Darkfall is following the same pattern as Mourning Online.  I predict that if it is released, it will be an empty shell of a game just like Mourning Online and Dark and Light. 

     

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449

    no surprise here. 

     

     

     

     

     

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • abbabaabbaba Member Posts: 1,143

    I've read a lot and heard a lot about this game, but not from someone who actually claims to be a beta tester. This in itself is strange to me.

    Darkfall has promised so much for an uknown developer that I will be both shocked and impressed if they can deliver it.

     

    Gameplay wise it sounds very much like shadowbane 2.0, which could be very very good or very very bad. I don't know who besides hardcore pvpers will hang around once they find out that you can get griefed/corpse camped / ganked with impunity and have all your stuff taken.

  • Master25Master25 Member Posts: 21
    Originally posted by velimirius


    lol delayed again
    maybe  after this one they will delay it for another 10 years

     

    You're funny.

    It's the first delay of DF, don't let me start with AoC with their, what was it? 3 delays?

    It's patethic that people are bashing on aventurine, it's a company with 30 employees for gods sake, one of them has to do the work of 6 of the employees from age of bewban.

    Don't expect em to hype things up like AoC did, I just read some of their interviews pre-launch, and they really sound patethic, they are really bragging about AoC.

     

    Atleast Tasos is rather straight to the point, and hey, I don't fking care if I get ''enough'' info, I just want to play the game, I'll have enough with the system requirements and retail price.

     

  • kelthrounkelthroun Member Posts: 2

    Ha ha ha. Let me start like this.

    I laugh to the face of you all. I laugh knowing that either you are "jurnalists", "antagonists", or just "sheep" you'll heve an open mouth the first day u'll see this game playing in a computer next to you. You'll ask the person sitting next to you in a net-cafe where you possibly go now and then -What's this game? and he will say looking at you with a stunning expression -Darkfall ofc, noob! Where have you been the last 5 years?

    And then you might recall all of your sayings in every forum you could and had all of you trolled! And you might even consider stop playing with your current old fashioned game (wow/war/aoc, you name it) and taste the sweet juice of that "most anticipated game", Darkfall.

    But the true pleasure will be mine and that of many other. The ones who will write on the forums about this great game, analyze it and wonder how could such a small group of people produce such a unique game in time similar to other "big" and "trusted" companies. You'll stay stunned with the fact that 30 people gave a game to the public not only with less buggs than aoc, not only with a better start than wow, but even better than war (concerning buggs). A really completed game that was only delayed ONCE you morons. Only for 30 days...

    But i will never stop making fools out of you all. I will never stop saying that people didn't believe in this game.  I will never stop saying that you get what you deserve by the "big and trusted" companies! I will never stop laughing at you when Diablo3 has it's delays, when you say you waited too long for starcraft2, when EA makes profit only from the sales of warhammer and not the monthly subscriptions and so doesn't give a damn about you. I will never stop saying i believed in those people who had only a few money and chose not to hire a shepherd for all the sheep that roam the lands of earth in order to convince them about something that would get on their hands half-finished and full of bugs, but instead gave their time and money to make a true NEXT GENERATION MMO  game!

    But till then...keep on making me laugh. I am one like some of you. Only logged to post a thing or two. But i am different than you... I posted in favor of this game not against it! You wanna know why they didn't expect so many people in the beggining of Darkfall? Check the net for posts about it. Most of them are negative. But now that the waorld finds out about it...things change! Even YOU i am sure have applied for the beta. Why? Why since it's only a hype? They use to say Darkfall will never come out. Now that it's almost out there they changed their sayings-only a bit. In March they will eat both their tongues and their fingers. THey will have nothing bad to say or write...

    Learned about Darkfall 4 days ago. Thank God Aris,cause i don't think i could wait 5 years!

    I have 3 months subscription remaining in warhammer and i can't stand the anticipation for Darkfall...

    When finally all of you will SHUT THE F**K UP!

    Cya in Agon-a for conquer and domination over everyone! Long live the Alfar.

    Remember remember the 5th of November the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot!

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439

     

     

    It is only the culture of having to play a game on pre-release that puts fans in any danger of Darkfall being a scam. Why do you need to play the game on launch day –10?



    Wait for a month after launch and check the reviews. So what if you are behind by 30 to 40 days? Are you going to die in that time, is the internet going to blow up? The game will still be there and if as some think it is going to be fab you will get your chance to play it.



    I would also question the reliability and authenticity of posters who like the one above who have only ever posted once and done so to do a fanboy hype of DF.

     

    Let others be the MMO lemmings of 2009.

     

  • ShadowpodShadowpod Member UncommonPosts: 29

    here here master25...and scot...scottie boy...good ol scot....listen to dane cooks rough around the edges...owned before you even posted like foresight in pokemon muahahahaha.....sorry i  have to sometimes get out the ridiculous stuff before i post...but im actually glad darkfall got delayed, ive greatly anticipated the coming of this game and am still anxious to see if they can deliver what they promise. reading the reasons for the delay has me believing that they are trying their best to deliver what im hoping for which is the whole "fight to play" attitude as well as the conning and griefing and such....a game isnt a real game if you dont have to throw your controller or yell at the screen or punch something every now and then ^_^ and if you dont have that kind passion for gaming you are damn well missing out on something great. that being said, i have high hopes for this game and the delay has actually made me more excited about it than i was before.

  • kelthrounkelthroun Member Posts: 2

    Having played silkroad (1y) wow (1.5y) aoc(1month) warhammer(since oBETA) a little Eve and Lotro i know i am not a veteran but i know a few things. Having said that i know about Darkfall for 4 days i wonder why you even bother with me? Yes i am a funboy with 2 posts (hurray) just like so many out there and in here know all about Darkfall and talk with so negative language against it! I am reading posts and articles (those are only a few) the last 4 days mostly negative, and yet this game has only shown positive things... Now be gone. I've spoken.

    Remember remember the 5th of November the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot!

  • trozyxxxtrozyxxx Member UncommonPosts: 249

    I might still check out Darkfall if/when it comes out but for the moment all i can say to anyone is please dont pre order.

  • GreeferGreefer Member UncommonPosts: 66

    Well good article.

    Anything to read about Darkfall is time well spent IMO :)  Even if its about delays.

  • FatbastFatbast Member Posts: 4

    This is another 30 day MMO.  Whilst these guys have actually taken the bold step of being niche with the the play style they have a pretty awful Avatar / Terrain engine.  If you want people to pay to play then it will require a lot more to keep them than DF is offering.

     

    Flame all you like, check this thread in 60 days after launch and see how it's going.

  • natuxatunatuxatu Member UncommonPosts: 1,364

    The fact that it is delayed just tells me that while it will be playable clearly it will still be crap when it first comes out and thus anyone with any common sense would more than likely wait a few months for all the fixes and what not. If they have to delay it they aren't going to be much better off in 30 days.

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  • sarcolissarcolis Member Posts: 51

    I remember that this game was in developement the same time the peice of crap Dark and Light was.........  They kept delaying that game..........  I was in beta and it was such a crap shoot.  I'm not trying to really compare this to that game play wise.   I really hope that this is good, but mmorpg's lately are all hype and turn to be crap.......  IMO WOW is prolly the only good mmorpg to come out in forever............

  • Spaceweed10Spaceweed10 Member Posts: 625
    Originally posted by Stradden

    Originally posted by gatheris


    absolutely hilarious
    there are so many comments that could be made about the delay - and about the defense this site is giving aventurine (weird to say the least) - but the reasons given are so funny and the anticipation of all the fanboi comments prevent me from making the cohesive statement i would like to
    i do know one thing - i'll be buying some popcorn on the way home from work tonight - it is going to be extraordinarily delicious
     

    I wouldn't call it defense. I would call it benefit of the doubt.

    Like I said in the article, I do think that there is some cause for concern and certainly there are questions to be asked... but when other companies announce delays... even weird ones... we don't often run off screaming vaporware, either.

    I'm just saying, perspective is key.

     

    Check this game's record - there is your perspective.

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