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90% of beta testers will pre order Darkfall

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  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300
    Originally posted by Aragon100


    This is actually a very accurate poll.
    Both nay sayers and fans can vote on this poll.

    Online polls are never accurate for one simple reason:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection

    The only way to accurately judge the percentage of pre-orders for Darkfall will be the hard numbers of pre-orders vs. the hard number of beta testers the game has.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    9 Players are going to pre-order?

    I jest.

    I find that number to be extremely unbelievable. Something smells fishy.



     

    9?

    290 is going to pre order.

    Guess the game is really good if that many testers wanna play it on release.

    What do you think?

     

    LMAO, yeah... 290.... I ran a WoW private server with more players than that.

     

    Good luck Darkfall your gonna need it.



     

    Its 290 out of the 323 that voted.

    What wrong with you?

  • atziluthatziluth Member UncommonPosts: 1,190
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by atziluth

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    Your title is misleading... 90% of the testers that took the poll will pre-order. What percentage of the total tester pool they make up is unknown.

    The truth will not be known until pre-orders go into effect. Only then will Aventurine know how many are willing to spend their money before the game is released. We the community may never know the true numbers good or bad.

    This is actually a very accurate poll.

    Both nay sayers and fans can vote on this poll.

    You are assuming that those who don't like the game are still testing or even bothering to check the beta forums. There is no way to determine if this poll is accurate or not. To say otherwise is misleading.

    Like I said before only when pre-orders go into effect will there be a true count. Unfortunately it is unlikely that the community will ever know the true count.

    -Atziluth-

    - Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

  • thinktank001thinktank001 Member UncommonPosts: 2,144
    Originally posted by Dethnoble


    In context of what the poll is about the only place you can conduct that poll, given all the current conditions, is on the beta forums done by actual beta testers.   The poll number actually satisfies some well known agreements about polls.  You only need a couple hundred people from a sampling to get an accurate enough view which would allow you to narrow down your margin of error below 10% or less.
    Having said that we also don't know if the results might have been fudged by moderators/devs themselves.  However, that begins into the area of 'conspiracy theorists' and claims in that department have far far less credibility than claims that the polls are within a few percentage of being accurate of the group the sample comes from.
    The best anyone can do who isn't in the CLOSED beta can do is wait until they are invited or wait until the game launches and get some honest reviews through that.  Or simply wait for a real trial.  Before then any claims that Darkfall is a crap from someone who isn't even in beta is pure crap itself.



     

     

    Its not the poll that is the problem.  Its they added the poll to a review done by a beta player looking through rose colored glasses.     

  • skydragonrenskydragonren Member Posts: 667
    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.

     

    Yeah no matter how you cut it it's shitty.

     

    290 of 10k would be 2.9% = very shitty retention rate.

    290 of 290 would be 100% = if you only using 290 people to test your game at this phase you fail.

     

    No matter what the number is, DF Fails.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by skydragonren


    Are we still talking about Darkfall.....
     
     

     
     
    B O R I N G G G G G G G G G G G G G G!!!!!



     

    Your on the DF forum to discuss something else?

    Please elaborate abit.

    Stay on topic or leave this thread troll.

    One more of these and i report you.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    WTF?

    Are people serious with this thread?

    Just because ONE poll shows something,t doesnt mean we have talk about it for two weeks.

    And who listens to the beta testers anyway?

  • skydragonrenskydragonren Member Posts: 667
    Originally posted by daarco


    WTF?
    Are people serious with this thread?
    Just because ONE poll shows something,t doesnt mean we have talk about it for two weeks.
    And who listens to the beta testers anyway?

     

    Noone listens to beta testers.

    AND

    No this cannot possibly be a serious thread which is why my first post was asking why we are still talking about it.

     

    290 people from a beta, said they would pre-order a game?>

     

    Whats so Massive about that, thought this was suppose to be an MMO.

     

    Feb is rapidly approaching and all the DF fans have to look foward to is being for sure they can play with 290 poeple....

     

    Wippitty DOOOOOOO!!!

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.



     

    290 people out of 323 is actually a really high number.

    So what this poll inform us is that the game is really good and 90% of the ones that actually tried it out will pre order it.

    That is an amazingly high number.

    Seems DF is a smashing hit.

  • skydragonrenskydragonren Member Posts: 667
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.



     

    290 people out of 323 is actually a really high number.

    So what this poll inform us is that the game is really good and 90% of the ones that actually tried it out will pre order it.

    That is an amazingly high number.

    Seems DF is a smashing hit.

     

    Um what this poll tells me is they only have maybe 500 POSSIBLY testing their game.

    With a release date less than a month away. For a game that is suppose to house 10k players a server.

    So we got 323 players who took the time to go vote, which I would wager is prolly close to all that is really testing.

    AND

    We got 290 of those that said they would pre-order....

     

    hmmmm, fail.

  • harmonicaharmonica Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Yeah no matter how you cut it it's shitty.

     

    290 of 10k would be 2.9% = very shitty retention rate.

    290 of 290 would be 100% = if you only using 290 people to test your game at this phase you fail.

     

    No matter what the number is, DF Fails.

    Most people don't participate in polls. Even on a site that gets millions of hits, the polls usually have low numbers.

    TheNoob holds no credibility with me, however, the illegal beta leakers do.

    This same poll was leaked by the ILLEGAL beta leaks as well and he seems to agree:

    "DF is not -THE- perfect game of all time. It does have issues, like any other game. The perfect game in your head will never be made. Some need to come to grips with this. But the game is fun, and there is no other game like it atm."

    And then he goes on to quote that forum poll. In other words, the game might not be half bad. And when we consider our alternative games (basically none, unless you want to play on a player-run UO shard), that does leave some glimmer of hope that the game will be decent.

     

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by thinktank001

    Originally posted by Dethnoble


    In context of what the poll is about the only place you can conduct that poll, given all the current conditions, is on the beta forums done by actual beta testers.   The poll number actually satisfies some well known agreements about polls.  You only need a couple hundred people from a sampling to get an accurate enough view which would allow you to narrow down your margin of error below 10% or less.
    Having said that we also don't know if the results might have been fudged by moderators/devs themselves.  However, that begins into the area of 'conspiracy theorists' and claims in that department have far far less credibility than claims that the polls are within a few percentage of being accurate of the group the sample comes from.
    The best anyone can do who isn't in the CLOSED beta can do is wait until they are invited or wait until the game launches and get some honest reviews through that.  Or simply wait for a real trial.  Before then any claims that Darkfall is a crap from someone who isn't even in beta is pure crap itself.



     

     

    Its not the poll that is the problem.  Its they added the poll to a review done by a beta player looking through rose colored glasses.     



     

    Its a poll where the testers of the game could have their say on wether they will pre order or not.

    Seems very accurate. And remember there votes is casted based on their so far ingame experience of the game.

    And the % is just awsome.

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    well that poll seams to be a public poll you can see who voted in that poll

    now only have to get the sshot whit ppl who voted and look for their names on dfo forums

    BestSigEver :P
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  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.



     

    290 people out of 323 is actually a really high number.

    So what this poll inform us is that the game is really good and 90% of the ones that actually tried it out will pre order it.

    That is an amazingly high number.

    Seems DF is a smashing hit.

     

    Um what this poll tells me is they only have maybe 500 POSSIBLY testing their game.

    With a release date less than a month away. For a game that is suppose to house 10k players a server.

    So we got 323 players who took the time to go vote, which I would wager is prolly close to all that is really testing.

    AND

    We got 290 of those that said they would pre-order....

     

    hmmmm, fail.



     

    Please stop making up numbers of beta testers you have no clue of.

    Lets stick to what this thread is about.

    90% of the testers will pre order the game.

    Thats amazingly high if you ask me.

     

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.



     

    290 people out of 323 is actually a really high number.

    So what this poll inform us is that the game is really good and 90% of the ones that actually tried it out will pre order it.

    That is an amazingly high number.

    Seems DF is a smashing hit.

    No, this poll would be reliable if there were more than 1000 people that voted, or that this wasn't directly from Aventurine. Frankly there is no way to know who voted, what percentage of the beta testers actually voted, if this poll is even legit, among many other things. For all we know the beta is still a select few hand picked testers that would buy the game if it literally was just a box of dog poo.

    But, your comments about the poll show off your blatent fanboism very nicely.

    Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
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    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.



     

    290 people out of 323 is actually a really high number.

    So what this poll inform us is that the game is really good and 90% of the ones that actually tried it out will pre order it.

    That is an amazingly high number.

    Seems DF is a smashing hit.

     

    Um what this poll tells me is they only have maybe 500 POSSIBLY testing their game.

    With a release date less than a month away. For a game that is suppose to house 10k players a server.

    So we got 323 players who took the time to go vote, which I would wager is prolly close to all that is really testing.

    AND

    We got 290 of those that said they would pre-order....

     

    hmmmm, fail.



     

    Please stop making up numbers of beta testers you have no clue of.

    Lets stick to what this thread is about.

    90% of the testers will pre order the game.

    Thats amazingly high if you ask me.

     

    I wouldn't call it amazingly high, more like unbelievably high, which is why I don't believe it.

    Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
    Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
    Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
    Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  • skydragonrenskydragonren Member Posts: 667

    LOL this dude is to much.

     

    290 of 323 IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!

     

    I don't know how many different ways I can explain this to you and you grasp it.

     

    22900 of 32300 is a GOOD number for an MMO.

     

    290 of 323..... is garbage

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175
    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

    I find that number to be extremely unbelievable. Something smells fishy.

     

    the simple truth is that the game is good.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Burnthebed

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Ubie

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

     

    290 ppl = "really high number"?? really?



     

    Its not the numbers. Its the % that is interesting here my friend.



     

    Yes, and 90% of the people tested = 290 which isn't really all that interesting.

    I know you don't listen to any opinion that isn't filtered through rose colored glasses, but I think that this thread is a bit wacky. I mean the poll CLEARLY says  290 where the 90% bar is, meaning that 90% of the testers polled is equal to 290 people. 290 people is a REALLY low number.

    Think of it this way if their closed beta is currently hosting 10k players (which is kinda lowish even for a closed beta) then 290 is actually 2.9% of the beta. Now, of course I'm not pretending to know for sure that there are 10k testers, thats just a guess.



     

    290 people out of 323 is actually a really high number.

    So what this poll inform us is that the game is really good and 90% of the ones that actually tried it out will pre order it.

    That is an amazingly high number.

    Seems DF is a smashing hit.

     

    Um what this poll tells me is they only have maybe 500 POSSIBLY testing their game.

    With a release date less than a month away. For a game that is suppose to house 10k players a server.

    So we got 323 players who took the time to go vote, which I would wager is prolly close to all that is really testing.

    AND

    We got 290 of those that said they would pre-order....

     

    hmmmm, fail.



     

    Please stop making up numbers of beta testers you have no clue of.

    Lets stick to what this thread is about.

    90% of the testers will pre order the game.

    Thats amazingly high if you ask me.

     

    I wouldn't call it amazingly high, more like unbelievably high, which is why I don't believe it.



     

    Aye it's really high, i agree.

    But it say alot about the ingame experience the testers had so far and thats why i think this poll is so interesting.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by skydragonren


    LOL this dude is to much.
     
    290 of 323 IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!
     
    I don't know how many different ways I can explain this to you and you grasp it.
     
    22900 of 32300 is a GOOD number for an MMO.
     
    290 of 323..... is garbage



     

    You mean 29000 out of 32300.

    Nah i think your wrong. 90% is a high number when 323 have voted.

    No matter how hard you try to make this something thats not interesting, you fail.

    Seems Aventurine made a winner to me.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by javac

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Thats a really high number if you ask me.
    http://beta.thenoobcomic.com/df_preview/part8.html

    I find that number to be extremely unbelievable. Something smells fishy.

     

    the simple truth is that the game is good.



     

    Aye it seems so.

  • firefly2003firefly2003 Member UncommonPosts: 2,527
    Originally posted by DeadDingo


    You could offer crap to a Darkfall fanboi and they would pre-order it.
    Cognitive Dissonance is such a wonderful thing to see in practice.

     

    Same goes for every other MMO that has released in the last year as well, what makes this any different?


  • skydragonrenskydragonren Member Posts: 667
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by skydragonren


    LOL this dude is to much.
     
    290 of 323 IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!
     
    I don't know how many different ways I can explain this to you and you grasp it.
     
    22900 of 32300 is a GOOD number for an MMO.
     
    290 of 323..... is garbage



     

    You mean 29000 out of 32300.

    Nah i think your wrong. 90% is a high number when 323 have voted.

     

    I don't care what you think honestly.

    This is what your seeing and nothing more "90% WOOT!"

     

    Here is what I see "290 players in a beta who have voted on an MMO less than 30 days from release in a game that is suppose to be tested and housing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!!!!"

     

    This is very concerning to an MMO fan because this sample of players means 1 of 2 things to the logical minded.

     

    1. your not beta testing shit in your game and you cannot handle the influx of players that might play your game.

    2. You have not even started a beta yet and your still just using F&F of staff.

    3. You are fixing numbers because you host the poll site. Because 290 is a low number of voters on a game so overhyped as DF is.

     

    None of those are good signs of anything.

    You see 90%

    I see Failure of a beta or Failure to conduct a proper beta.

  • TurnellTurnell Member Posts: 239

    Although thats a gream stat, It will pale in comparison to those who will preorder and not be in the beta. With the downsides to AoC and WAR this last year there are a lot of players itching for an MMO they can sink their teeth into for the next 2 yrs (as they did with games like eq1 and WoW). If DF is it, there will be a run on the game

  • atziluthatziluth Member UncommonPosts: 1,190
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Seems Aventurine made a winner to me.

    You have determined this how?

    One poll from a game still under NDA in which you know almost nothing about the actual state.

    Sorry... you don't need to explain... carry on.

    -Atziluth-

    - Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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