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What's with all the Darkfall hate?

CeclisCeclis Member Posts: 29

With the release of so much leaked information, and MOST of the beta testers being pleased with what the game has shown them so much, why does it seem like there are so many people here still hating on DF.  Or better yet, hoping that it will fail? Are you really so pathetic that you have to wish a game that so many people are hoping is a good time will suck?  I dunno, maybe it makes me just as pathetic as they are to acknowledge that they exist, and I guess that is just the nature of forums these days, but it seems counter productive.    If you don't think DF will be good, why not go watch another game that actually interests you, instead of being a troll?

Anyway, the leaked video's actually look good, the dev's seem to be getting there head on straight, and it seems like they patch bugs quite fast.  I think they will have this game ready and playable soon.

Hope to see you non-trolls out and about in the world of Agon.

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  • NoktarisNoktaris Member Posts: 270

    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Ceclis


    With the release of so much leaked information, and MOST of the beta testers being pleased with what the game has shown them so much, why does it seem like there are so many people here still hating on DF.  Or better yet, hoping that it will fail? Are you really so pathetic that you have to wish a game that so many people are hoping is a good time will suck?  I dunno, maybe it makes me just as pathetic as they are to acknowledge that they exist, and I guess that is just the nature of forums these days, but it seems counter productive.    If you don't think DF will be good, why not go watch another game that actually interests you, instead of being a troll?
    Anyway, the leaked video's actually look good, the dev's seem to be getting there head on straight, and it seems like they patch bugs quite fast.  I think they will have this game ready and playable soon.
    Hope to see you non-trolls out and about in the world of Agon.



     

    out of curiousity, isn't this post like on every page of this forum, if not 2 or 10 times on every page?

     

    what's with all of the repeating of this topic?  the other ones don't get locked...

     

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • CopWatchCopWatch Member Posts: 134
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by Ceclis


    With the release of so much leaked information, and MOST of the beta testers being pleased with what the game has shown them so much, why does it seem like there are so many people here still hating on DF.  Or better yet, hoping that it will fail? Are you really so pathetic that you have to wish a game that so many people are hoping is a good time will suck?  I dunno, maybe it makes me just as pathetic as they are to acknowledge that they exist, and I guess that is just the nature of forums these days, but it seems counter productive.    If you don't think DF will be good, why not go watch another game that actually interests you, instead of being a troll?
    Anyway, the leaked video's actually look good, the dev's seem to be getting there head on straight, and it seems like they patch bugs quite fast.  I think they will have this game ready and playable soon.
    Hope to see you non-trolls out and about in the world of Agon.



     

    out of curiousity, isn't this post like on every page of this forum, if not 2 or 10 times on every page?

     

    what's with all of the repeating of this topic?  the other ones don't get locked...

     

     

    And notice how the OP is always some no-name with 7 posts.  The reason we are being bombarded with this propaganda is because Tasos game is so bad he and the dev team feel the need to defend it themselves right here on this forum.

    The OP said "Most people are positive about the beta leaks".  Obviously not true.  Even the die-hardest of the fanbois are now turning tail and running for the hills. 

     

  • ZeiyanZeiyan Member Posts: 27

    Some games just aren't meant to be, expect alot of failure from games nowdays. I guess its in Bioware we trust for a real mmo. Darkfall has had the highest hype i've seen for ages too :( i cant believe theres so many failed or unpopulated games out there.

  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    Mourning and Dark and Light all look promosing in there beta, all had good leaks and most beta tester where happy. All had good videos out there with where nice.

    ` If you don't think DF will be good, why not go watch another game that actually interests you, instead of being a troll?`

    Becouse this is a discussion forum. We are here to discuss released and unreleased games. However for a discussion you will be in need of poeple who seem to like the game (dubbed fanboys) and poeple who have a dislike for the game/production methodes or company (dubbed haters).

    If you want a forum where poeple only speak good of games I suggest to make you own forum. Where you may only say good and happy things about games. THAT will be counter productive for a discussion forum actualy.

  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    Originally posted by Ceclis


    Anyway, the leaked video's actually look good, the dev's seem to be getting there head on straight, and it seems like they patch bugs quite fast.  I think they will have this game ready and playable soon.

    Not a hater, but I'm not gonna play DF, because of those vids... The graphics, effects  and movement are plainly aweful, almost as if the engine is dated at least 5 years back or so (it feels a bit like the original Quake TBH).

     

    If ppl wanna try DF, I wish them lost of fun & luck. I hope that DF is one of the newcomers that will make a difference and start some changes with the bigger developers as well, because we're now realy stuck with some *name-not-to-be-mentioned* market leader and all those copycats around it 

  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by Ceclis


    With the release of so much leaked information, and MOST of the beta testers being pleased with what the game has shown them so much, why does it seem like there are so many people here still hating on DF.  Or better yet, hoping that it will fail? Are you really so pathetic that you have to wish a game that so many people are hoping is a good time will suck?  I dunno, maybe it makes me just as pathetic as they are to acknowledge that they exist, and I guess that is just the nature of forums these days, but it seems counter productive.    If you don't think DF will be good, why not go watch another game that actually interests you, instead of being a troll?


    Green: And so is always the case. But we can't take their words for it now can we? Remember, games are always better before release.

    Blue:  Because many are indeed interested only they see the laughable side of the fence which fans choose not to see. Nothing wrong with that.

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    And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "

  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413

    Everything I wanted to say has pretty much been said.

     

    I am tempted to report the OP for idiocy for not understanding that criticsm does NOT equal hate.

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • TalRashaTalRasha Member UncommonPosts: 827

    What hate?

    Here are the first 2 pages of this forum:

     

    You just want to see hate, where there is non.

    Unless you want to call skeptisism or having a different opinion the same as hate. But the real hate topics are not that common anymore, and are probably all done by the same person anyway. Have a look at the join date, if someone posts pure hate then the chances are that he only just joined.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!

  • harmonicaharmonica Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.

     

    How were you misled?

    Nobody ever thought the game would have good graphics. All of the features seem to be there.

    Maybe I just had really low expectations for the game (only seemed logical considering it's an indie game), but I've actually been satisfied with what I've seen so far.

    I guess the true "delusional" people are the ones who thought Darkfall was going to look like Gears of War or some shit. Everybody else was expecting a "dated" looking indie game with some cool features and that seems to be what we're getting.

    The trolls are trying to "rub it in" and say "i told you so" but quite honestly, it has no effect on my opinion of darkfall - are they trying to change my mind?



    I've based all of my opinions on the leaks and so far I'm still interested in trying the game.

     

  • harmonicaharmonica Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by Coman


    Mourning and Dark and Light all look promosing in there beta, all had good leaks and most beta tester where happy. All had good videos out there with where nice.

     

    That's not true. I beta tested DnL (I don't know if it was open beta or I just happened to know a lot of testers) and we all agreed it was horrible.

    As for Mourning, after the name change everyone could tell it had gone down hill. Hell, the Devs were saying in order to buy a house you had to PM them and have them build it for you. I'm pretty sure everyone completely lost faith in the game before it came out.

    Darkfalls leaks have had more promising write-ups than both of those games combined.



    I started following Darkfall a long time ago, but gave up after a month or so when I realized it was probably never coming out. I'd check in once and a while, but still figured it was never coming out. Since then, I've realized that when it does come out it's going to look like it belongs in 2003, but that's fine with me because there hasn't been a good MMO since the late 90s (UO).

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    Being an Indie company does not make one exempt from being a dissappointment to someone else.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    Being an Indie company does not make one exempt from being a dissappointment to someone else.



     

    No, but its still fact. And it will effect the outcome of the game. If Blizzard had made DF......wouldent that be different?

     

  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269

    A lot of the perceived hate for this game comes from over zelous fanboi's taking the most simple critisms personally.

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  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by mrw0lf


    A lot of the perceived hate for this game comes from over zelous fanboi's taking the most simple critisms personally.



     

     

    this.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    Being an Indie company does not make one exempt from being a dissappointment to someone else.



     

    No, but its still fact. And it will effect the outcome of the game. If Blizzard had made DF......wouldent that be different?

     



     

    Still there is no reason or logic behind giving someone a free pass because they were indie.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    Being an Indie company does not make one exempt from being a dissappointment to someone else.



     

    No, but its still fact. And it will effect the outcome of the game. If Blizzard had made DF......wouldent that be different?

     



     

    Still there is no reason or logic behind giving someone a free pass because they were indie.



     

    Yes, there is. I was aware that Aventurine was a small company. So i couldent be disapponted. But in WAR, i had high hopes, since they had manpower to give me a good game. But they failed me.

    Aventurine dont have manpower to give me a good game...so how could i ever get dissapointed? Its common sense.

     

  • jimsmith08jimsmith08 Member Posts: 1,039
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    well tbh,people have bashed war and aoc pretty hard too,and both of those games promised to reinvent the wheel..

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    Being an Indie company does not make one exempt from being a dissappointment to someone else.



     

    No, but its still fact. And it will effect the outcome of the game. If Blizzard had made DF......wouldent that be different?

     



     

    Still there is no reason or logic behind giving someone a free pass because they were indie.



     

    Yes, there is. I was aware that Aventurine was a small company. So i couldent be disapponted. But in WAR, i had high hopes, since they had manpower to give me a good game. But they failed me.

    Aventurine dont have manpower to give me a good game...so how could i ever get dissapointed? Its common sense.

     

    Aye, but that is your reasoning and logic. It shouldnt have to apply to everyone who looks at a game. A dev team can have 300 members and still make a bad game. They shouldnt be held to a higher standard based on the amount of people in employment just as AV should be given a handicap for having less. If anything the amount of time AV spent on developement (a tad shy of a decade) should more than make up for the lack of employees.

     

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • NoktarisNoktaris Member Posts: 270

    I got a question...people keep making excuses. Saying things like it's a indie game...what are they going to charge? is the game going to be cheap...with a small or no monthly fee?

     

    Because if they are trying to charge the same standard price as other MMO's 50$ for box,15$ a month then people have the right to compair it to it's competition and criticize the company.

  • TalRashaTalRasha Member UncommonPosts: 827
    Originally posted by daarco




     
    Yes, there is. I was aware that Aventurine was a small company. So i couldent be disapponted. But in WAR, i had high hopes, since they had manpower to give me a good game. But they failed me.
    Aventurine dont have manpower to give me a good game...so how could i ever get dissapointed? Its common sense.
     



     

    Woah!

    I don't believe what I read there.

    In all your other posts you presume that Darkfall will be a fantastic very good game. Now you basically say that you already know they can't possibly make a good game.

    To answer your question "How could you ever get dissapointed?": By your own hope that it will turn out okay anyway. You are right though that you can't be disappointed in Aventurine, but you can still be disappointed in the final product.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by CopWatch

    Originally posted by TalRasha

    Originally posted by daarco




     
    Yes, there is. I was aware that Aventurine was a small company. So i couldent be disapponted. But in WAR, i had high hopes, since they had manpower to give me a good game. But they failed me.
    Aventurine dont have manpower to give me a good game...so how could i ever get dissapointed? Its common sense.
     



     

    Woah!

    I don't believe what I read there.

    In all your other posts you presume that Darkfall will be a fantastic very good game. Now you basically say that you already know they can't possibly make a good game.

     

    He means it'll be great in it's own Special Olympics kind of way.  Which is right up his alley, most certainly.

     



     

    Exactly!

  • daelnordaelnor Member UncommonPosts: 1,556
    Originally posted by harmonica

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.

     

    How were you misled?

    Nobody ever thought the game would have good graphics. All of the features seem to be there.

    Maybe I just had really low expectations for the game (only seemed logical considering it's an indie game), but I've actually been satisfied with what I've seen so far.

    I guess the true "delusional" people are the ones who thought Darkfall was going to look like Gears of War or some shit. Everybody else was expecting a "dated" looking indie game with some cool features and that seems to be what we're getting.

    The trolls are trying to "rub it in" and say "i told you so" but quite honestly, it has no effect on my opinion of darkfall - are they trying to change my mind?



    I've based all of my opinions on the leaks and so far I'm still interested in trying the game.

     

    Actually, I think most of the so called "troll posts" are in direct retaliation for the" fan boi" posts who can see no wrong, and crap talk anyone who has a different opinion, and the total BS that Tasos has been spitting out for years and years now.

     

    Most of it probably has absolutely nothing to do with the game, other than point out lies that the hard core fans refuse to see.

    Either way it's entertainment all around.

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  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Noktaris


    After being mislead time and again,I think after a time people just become bitter. I think the game just had way too much hype,then once people got to see the video leaks they realized the game wasn't going to meet their expectation.



     

    I can understand this. But why not direct the anger on some WoW-clone instead?? After all, Aventurine is just some small indie company trying to do something different. And it havent been relesed yet!



     

    Being an Indie company does not make one exempt from being a dissappointment to someone else.



     

    No, but its still fact. And it will effect the outcome of the game. If Blizzard had made DF......wouldent that be different?

     

     

    Speaking for myself... NO.

    I call it like I see it.  I don't care who the Developer is.  I don't feel the need to suck up on the internet to money making businesses (developers).  I ask the hard questions in the hope that people will think and question too.

    Why?  I want to play good games.  Any telling ANY developer their game is 'perfect' does not get the developer to improve themselves or the game.

    In PotBS I pointed out that the Travel Map IMHO was a killer (amongst other things) - and I said why.

    In WAR after a week of Beta I questioned population balance (do a search in the WAR forum) - and I said why.

    Here... do a search.  I stand by what I have said.

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

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