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How will Darkfall be played by the masses?

CeclisCeclis Member Posts: 29

Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?

I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.

What are your opinions?

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    well, since we have very little knwoledge of those in beta or who is actually playing, i am gonna go by the darkfall official forums..........

    god help you all...........lol

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  • KLECKOKLECKO Member UncommonPosts: 48

    With a key board ?

  • CeclisCeclis Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by KLECKO


    With a key board ?



     

    Bad sarcasm need not apply.

  • SarayuSarayu Member UncommonPosts: 25

    This is what I hope:

    Races in general will team together and fight each other, and live under the largest guilds empires. Obviously some people will kill people of the same race and will be frowned down upon, and considered outlaws, and maybe the same thing for people who choose to be pirates. I mean each place can set up their own laws so it depends on the area.

    Realistically though, I think there will be quite a few people if they see no risk in it, running around whacking the little noobs. Or it'll just be a big free for all all the time, i dunno.

  • ScarrenScarren Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by Ceclis


    Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?
    I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.
    What are your opinions?

    Don't think your the right type of player for darkfall or any ffa pvp game for that matter , just asking and dont understanding the question makes you the typical .. why did he kill me , i was just looking at the flowers kind of person. 

    and for real no one cares what kind of race you are , your in my way i felt like killing you, ooh and that sword of yours looks shiny.

     

     

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875

    That's what i think the first day will be  www.youtube.com/watch

    beyond that i really can't tell.......

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  • SarayuSarayu Member UncommonPosts: 25
    Originally posted by egotrip


    That's what i think the first day will be  www.youtube.com/watch
    beyond that i really can't tell.......

     

    I think you just put it perfectly!! Hahah

  • CeclisCeclis Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by Scarren

    Originally posted by Ceclis


    Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?
    I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.
    What are your opinions?

    Don't think your the right type of player for darkfall or any ffa pvp game for that matter , just asking and dont understanding the question makes you the typical .. why did he kill me , i was just looking at the flowers kind of person. 

    and for real no one cares what kind of race you are , your in my way i felt like killing you, ooh and that sword of yours looks shiny.

     

     



     

    See that was the exact response I was expecting.  You don't know or understand what type of gamer I am. Because I feel that people should work together, and fight against a common foe doesn't mean this game isn't for me. I'm sure there will be more intelligent people out there that can comprehend this idea.  If you go rogue and start killing your own race your going to get killed by someone bigger and better then you, and they are going to have no consequences, like turning grey/red, like you are for being a pk.

  • SarayuSarayu Member UncommonPosts: 25
    Originally posted by Ceclis

    Originally posted by Scarren

    Originally posted by Ceclis


    Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?
    I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.
    What are your opinions?

    Don't think your the right type of player for darkfall or any ffa pvp game for that matter , just asking and dont understanding the question makes you the typical .. why did he kill me , i was just looking at the flowers kind of person. 

    and for real no one cares what kind of race you are , your in my way i felt like killing you, ooh and that sword of yours looks shiny.

     

     



     

    See that was the exact response I was expecting.  You don't know or understand what type of gamer I am. Because I feel that people should work together, and fight against a common foe doesn't mean this game isn't for me. I'm sure there will be more intelligent people out there that can comprehend this idea.  If you go rogue and start killing your own race your going to get killed by someone bigger and better then you, and they are going to have no consequences, like turning grey/red, like you are for being a pk.

     

    I think the whole point of this game is that you can choose however you want to play. You can go on a murderous rampage, follow the rules, not even take part in killing and become  a rich merchant, become an explorer, help build an empire. It's supposed to be a very realistic representation of a real life back in the what would you call it, medieval times?

  • What masses?  This game has 3 supporters left.  2 of which live in homes for the mentally handicaped.  And those homes don't allow violent video games.

     

  • ScarrenScarren Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by Ceclis

    Originally posted by Scarren

    Originally posted by Ceclis


    Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?
    I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.
    What are your opinions?

    Don't think your the right type of player for darkfall or any ffa pvp game for that matter , just asking and dont understanding the question makes you the typical .. why did he kill me , i was just looking at the flowers kind of person. 

    and for real no one cares what kind of race you are , your in my way i felt like killing you, ooh and that sword of yours looks shiny.

     

     



     

    See that was the exact response I was expecting.  You don't know or understand what type of gamer I am. Because I feel that people should work together, and fight against a common foe doesn't mean this game isn't for me. I'm sure there will be more intelligent people out there that can comprehend this idea.  If you go rogue and start killing your own race your going to get killed by someone bigger and better then you, and they are going to have no consequences, like turning grey/red, like you are for being a pk.

    Ok i may have been a bit harsh , but no one will care about your race , i understand where your coming from ( wow , good game , but its not ffa pvp )  , everyone you meet will either try to kill you or make you a friend , but you will never be safe in a ffa pvp game. and again sorry to reiterate this , NO ONE WILL CARE WHAT THE CRAP RACE YOU ARE!.

    edit: The faction you know from wow or any of those games will be replaced with guilds and your friends , just be aware anyone you meet which isnt a friend is  a potential enemy as it should be , dont let that keep you away , but dont except anyone to not kill you because your the same race etc.

    edit2: Your right Ceclis , i have no frigging reason to question what kind of player you are , sorry about that.

     

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078

    Heh.  I have to say, I've never associated Darkfall with the term "the masses" before.

    Niche, targeted audience, hardcore pvp'ers, gankers, griefers, former UO players, these come to mind when discussing DF.

    But 'the masses?'   No, just not seeing that.

     

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  • CeclisCeclis Member Posts: 29

    That makes more sense, there will be gankers, and there will be friends.  I guess we will have to see how the game pan's out. I am just hoping that it is not total and complete gank fest.  And when I said "masses" I meant all the people involved in playing the game. 

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

    It won't be played by the masses thankfully.

    All that's needed for Darkfall to be a success is one populated server world of 20k. That is all I require.

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Sorry, can't post, getting spawn ganked.

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  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by Samuraisword


    It won't be played by the masses thankfully.
    All that's needed for Darkfall to be a success is one populated server world of 20k. That is all I require.

    I somehow don't think that Aventurine's needs and your needs see eye to eye on that one.

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by egotrip

    Originally posted by Samuraisword


    It won't be played by the masses thankfully.
    All that's needed for Darkfall to be a success is one populated server world of 20k. That is all I require.

    I somehow don't think that Aventurine's needs and your needs see eye to eye on that one.

    His needs are only in his minds eye.

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  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by egotrip

    Originally posted by Samuraisword


    It won't be played by the masses thankfully.
    All that's needed for Darkfall to be a success is one populated server world of 20k. That is all I require.

    I somehow don't think that Aventurine's needs and your needs see eye to eye on that one.

    His needs are only in his minds eye.

    ...........or more than meets the eye?!?!?!?

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  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230

    Faction division will largely be ignored.  Exploits for avoiding and/or abusing rogue flagging will be the norm.

  • RavanosRavanos Member Posts: 897

    it wont be played by the masses, too clunky, to chaotic to much risk and too little reward. this will be a niche game for those PVPers who need another game to stroke thier epeen with.

    it will be played by the true PVPers .... which doesn't stand for Player vs player, it stands for "p*ssies vs players" those players that will ONLY attack others if they have 3:1 (or more) player advantage while the other player is low on health and being attacked by 2 mobs ... that type of "PVPer".

    I guess i just don't get that type of PVP, do you get off on someone elses misery even though they have no chance to fight back? I thought the whole point of PVP was competition? thats like Michael Jordan going to a gym full of NBA superstars and picking the 5'7 300lbs guy to play 1 on 1 against to show his skills. in any other competition that type of thing would be laughed at and put down ... yet in PVP games its legitimate and something to be proud of..

     

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Something is gonna get played. Not sure if its gonna be the player or the game at this point.

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  • rejektrejekt Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Ceclis

    Originally posted by Scarren

    Originally posted by Ceclis


    Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?
    I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.
    What are your opinions?

    Don't think your the right type of player for darkfall or any ffa pvp game for that matter , just asking and dont understanding the question makes you the typical .. why did he kill me , i was just looking at the flowers kind of person. 

    and for real no one cares what kind of race you are , your in my way i felt like killing you, ooh and that sword of yours looks shiny.

     

     



     

    See that was the exact response I was expecting.  You don't know or understand what type of gamer I am. Because I feel that people should work together, and fight against a common foe doesn't mean this game isn't for me. I'm sure there will be more intelligent people out there that can comprehend this idea.  If you go rogue and start killing your own race your going to get killed by someone bigger and better then you, and they are going to have no consequences, like turning grey/red, like you are for being a pk.



    It's funny that you talk about intelligence and can't even use the proper grammar for "you're" and not "your".

    With sandbox games like DF there's no linear path that any one individual or a group of individuals need to follow.

    If a player or group of players choose to be outcasts, pirates, pirate hunters, at peace with their own race, at war with any other race, or whatever is up to them.

    The great thing about these games is that people are more free to do what they want and play how they want. It won't always match the way in which you want to play, which may frustrate you but in this type of game you can't really force another player to play the same way you do.

    I look forward to seeing what's made available with the different play styles and going from there.

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Many will start  ganking anyone same race or not by thinking how funny it is ..till they realize there is some form of organization needed for  bigger  and ambitious goals  ..

    May start with .."no good thinking to PK your Team member you need sometimes Teams" .."no good thought to PK guildies you may end up guildless and on your own" .."no good thought to PK same race you may end up having trouble to buy good gear cause your outlaw to best markets" ..etc ..

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    Many will start  ganking anyone same race or not by thinking how funny it is ..till they realize there is some form of organization needed for  bigger  and ambitious goals  ..
    May start with .."no good thinking to PK your Team member you need sometimes Teams" .."no good thought to PK guildies you may end up guildless and on your own" .."no good thought to PK same race you may end up having trouble to buy good gear cause your outlaw to best markets" ..etc ..

    Or I could just buy a 2nd account and keep one lawless and the other as my market alt.

     

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  • jusomdudejusomdude Member RarePosts: 2,706

    If you're referring to the majority of the people actually playing, I think it'll be mostly pre-guilded people who have already decided if they are gonna be bandits and kill everyone or anti-PKs. At first I think it will be mostly people killin' eachother regardless of race. Most people are probably gonna attack their own race at least a few times for some reason or another just becuase that's one of the games biggest features, assuming most of the players are the intended audience.

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