just gotta reply to what someone said before about how he said that half the mmo community loves darkfall and the rest love wow like games LOL not even 1-2% will ever even touch darkfall
Not sure what planet you are on but the game is phenomenal as it is.
Dark and Light phenomenal?
Because you would have to go back to DnL to find something to compare it to and get an idea of how truly terrible and featureless this game really is.
Do you know why the fanboys say the game is "phenomenal"? Because it lets them run around and grief people and take all their stuff. LOL
THAT"S IT. That's exactly why they think the game is "phenomenal". For no other reason but because they can Full Loot and PvP/grief everyone which BTW is exactly what the game is - a grief fest. They call that FREEDOM
Darkfall is nothing more than a functioning combat simulator. And a very badly done one at that with some of the worste animations ever seen in a MMO and nothing more than a mouse click fest.
/ditto
Fear not Koen83 Poppets is a wise and convincing foe created from the pure evils of unvaporware withdrawls caused by the release of in game information about darkfall. Do not fall for his traps his only goal is to steer you away from the light.
"From the desk of Tasos."
YOU KNOW NOTHING OF TACOS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poppets is evil don't you dare try to think otherwise.
Look what he was created to do look at his post history it is only the one thing the one idea the complete and total destructioon of darkfall through trolling alone.
This list of grievances was taken and collected from all Beta review reports
* Servers not stress tested * weak community * bad communication by dev's * No player housing * No Weather * No Trading system * Harvesting only viable through macroing, very poorly designed * No local banks * No trade caravans * There ARE safezones * Buggy UI * Lack of intuitive chat commands * Total lack of LFG system, and lack of intuitive group formation systems * Extremely boring, unimaginative and grindy harvesting and crafting system * Boring badly designed click fest melee combat, with no variation in weapon skill sets * No penalties or bonuses on armor types so everyone will wear full plate - why wouldn't they? * No penalties or bonuses on weapon styles so everyone will use the polearm - why wouldn't they? * Effectively 1 class because there will be 10k clones of exactly the same build, because the devs have NO CLUE about making skill based diversification, as has been explained to them hundreds of times * Extremely solo and red unfriendly from minute one of logging in * Just be aware that you will be PTB (paying to beta) for the first 3 months New game with poor launch will fall through the gaps in the fast paced gaming community. Save your money people.
Funny almost all your points can be said about most established MMOs and one of those games has over 10 million subscribers.
care to explain wich ones sir.. and were they said to be ingame to begin with?...oh you said funny to start your statement.. joke i laughed too
I really cannot wait for this game to release and then crash and burn, so all of these fucking idiots who for some reason, defy logic and cling to hope will finally shut up.
I really cannot wait for this game to release and then crash and burn, so all of these fucking idiots who for some reason, defy logic and cling to hope will finally shut up.
I just cant fathom why you care? Give an explanation as to why you care if people play this game or not? How will it impact your life? Please. Dont call people fucking idiots because they choose to play a video game. Who is the idiot then?
I really cannot wait for this game to release and then crash and burn, so all of these fucking idiots who for some reason, defy logic and cling to hope will finally shut up.
Why do you want this game to crash and burn? do you have a personal vendetta against AV employees? Do you want another indie developer to go out of business and be bought up by giants like SOE? Do you not want people to enjoy a good game? Do you want all these people to lose their jobs? I don't understand your logic besides being a selfish jerk.
Darkfall will likely fade off into nothingness after a short period of time. Without the kind of balance of PvE and PvP that Pre-Tram UO had (i.e. playing housing, crafting, harvesting, dungeons, creating hunters, taming etc.) Darkfall will simply fail.
What the hardcore PvPers fail to recognize is that PvE elements helped to support the PvP elements of Pre-Tram UO (the game that Darkfall wants to model itself after). PvE'ers gave reason for PKers and PvPers to stay active:
- PvE content was hot grounds for PvP,
- PvE'ers gave PKers something to hunt,
- PvE'ers could round up support kill PKers,
- harvesting and crafting was the primary supply of gear needed to PvP; all gear collected was generally for PvP purposes eventually. People liked being able to hold huge stocks of gear so they can restock from their house and get right back into the fight.
- Trading and strong economies helped to offer something beyond combat
- Rare/artifact hunting, item gathering, house design etc. was another addition to developing you characters and establishing them within the community
- Skill development did matter: you put in the time and you can compete
- the list goes on with any other good pre-Tram UO aspect
Darkfall is missing huge components that help support a succesful MMORPG -- if you only cater to one aspect your game will eventually fade away once people get bored of doing the one thing they may have done well. People will be better off just playing a FPS or the like for their PVP fix.
Real pre-tram UO players knew that a fine balance had to be struck for the game to be successful on the whole; Darkfall doesn't have this kind of balance at all.
I really cannot wait for this game to release and then crash and burn, so all of these fucking idiots who for some reason, defy logic and cling to hope will finally shut up.
Why do you want this game to crash and burn?
Where in Nighblades's post does he say he "wants DF to crash and burn"? I think Nightblade was just pointing out the most likely scenario that will result when DF finally goes live. I tend to agree with him. Especially the part about how many idiots will finally shut up.
Not sure what planet you are on but the game is phenomenal as it is.
Dark and Light phenomenal?
Because you would have to go back to DnL to find something to compare it to and get an idea of how truly terrible and featureless this game really is.
Do you know why the fanboys say the game is "phenomenal"? Because it lets them run around and grief people and take all their stuff. LOL
THAT"S IT. That's exactly why they think the game is "phenomenal". For no other reason but because they can Full Loot and PvP/grief everyone which BTW is exactly what the game is - a grief fest. They call that FREEDOM
Darkfall is nothing more than a functioning combat simulator. And a very badly done one at that with some of the worste animations ever seen in a MMO and nothing more than a mouse click fest.
BZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong.
i'm enjoying Darkfall and i think full loot is a Bad Thing. dying is its own penalty, no need to make it worse.
just wish i could get my pre-order to take. they are so bogged down with people throwing money at them. 8)
Don't worry all these fanboys on here disproving your points will be back on here in a few months crying about the same points.
He is not making points, its Poppets. the account was clearly made just to try and say darkfall is horrible.
Why? I have no idea why someone would just do that.
has everything to do with having nothing. nothing in his life better to do than this pathetic time wasteage. we should pity the fool.
Making a forum post must mean that I dedicate every last moment of my "pathetic" life seeking to destroy the heroic tasos and his legion of fans. Your logic is flawless, thus I am vanquished. VANQUISHED.
Honestly people, do you people actually read what you write down before you post? I have a tip for you good people. Read your posts out loud, if you can NOT sound like a tool while doing so; you can hit the post button.
This game had the right idea, but really... Just look at it. The idea of a action MMORPG was fantastic, but really... Come on.
Allow me to ask a very simple question. The depth in combat, where is it? Does blocking attack yield any acceptable results? Can you feint? Do you know what a feint is? What about magic skills, is there anything other than "fire blue missle and self heal"? What about equipment variety, what are the benefits of using light armor? What's the difference between a sword and an axe? Ok, what about crafting, people have stated early crafting is a massive timesink and thus not worth it; can you explain how these "VAPOR TROLLS" are wrong? Should I go on? Are these concerns unfounded?
Can any of you answer this without any of the classic hyperbolic nonsense, or is gaming a broken combat system to be perceived as "depth"?
Arrgg, let me pay to betatest Darkfall for 3 months, because DF is the best PvP mmo I`ve played since UO. I just hope they fix the preorder servers so I can get the game as soon as possible.
You are right in most of your points though, and I hope they fix those as time goes by. I disagree in some.
Harvesting is pure genius in a PvP game like DF. I can get my mats without spending boring time running around the world. A small leftclick macro and I can watch TV or PvP on another PC. This is one of the best part of Darkfall, but I need two accounts.
Crafting is also good. The same macro can be used, and all the things I make can be used by other players. This was not possible in games with poor crafting like WOW, AoC and WAR.
The community in Darkfall is rough but awsome. In Darkfall you have to make friends and you will get real enemies. The flamewars on forums between the big guilds and the best pvpers are just pure fun. You will know and remember your enemies in Darkfall. In WOW I had more than 100000 kill and I didn`t remember one single name from the players I fought. This is because mmo`s like WAR, WOW and AOC are PvE games.
That last paragraph got to me, I really don't remember anyone I fought in WoW or even WAR which was less than a year ago, besides one person in WAR. But I remember tons of names from DAOC and my short summer in EQ2 right when they opened the PvP servers. That seems to be a really intresting indicator in whether or not a game had an intresting PvP system.
I don't even remember any of my characters in WoW, let alone who they fought. That's how unimpressed I was with that game.
Originally posted by NightbladeX1 Allow me to ask a very simple question. The depth in combat, where is it? Does blocking attack yield any acceptable results? Can you feint? Do you know what a feint is? What about magic skills, is there anything other than "fire blue missle and self heal"? What about equipment variety, what are the benefits of using light armor? What's the difference between a sword and an axe? Ok, what about crafting, people have stated early crafting is a massive timesink and thus not worth it; can you explain how these "VAPOR TROLLS" are wrong? Should I go on? Are these concerns unfounded?
Can any of you answer this without any of the classic hyperbolic nonsense, or is gaming a broken combat system to be perceived as "depth"?
My first thought was "Darn this guy knows alot about PVP. I bet he plays an awsome PvP mmo"
It was hard to figure out what mmo you are playing because 13 of 15 post are you flaming Darkfall and one is a flame towards WAR. Then I found the gem you were hiding....Runes of magic. So, you are flaming Darkfall and WAR for bad pvp while you are betatesting Runes of magic.
I took a look at your awsome PvP mmo and found out RoM was a free 2 play mmo, and the first comment was.
"People who like WoW but don't like to pay monthly this game is for them"
Feint is something the hunters can do in wow if I remember correct, so you were a wow player. Now you are just a cheap wow player that wont support your game by paying your monthly fee. And you dare flame a pvp game like Darkfall.
It was hard to figure out what mmo you are playing because 13 of 15 post are you flaming Darkfall and one is a flame towards WAR. Then I found the gem you were hiding....Runes of magic. So, you are flaming Darkfall and WAR for bad pvp while you are betatesting Runes of magic.
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I play Runes of Magic on the side. So what? How is this relevant? Runes of Magic is by no means a perfect game, but it's free. I have spent no money on it, only a meager amount of time. Cash shop is optional and I have chosen not to use it. Since you care so much about my gaming habits, I barely even play the game after I reached level 30. I ganked back all of the people who ganked me and the game has this awful instagib pvp that mimics WoW in it's early years.
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I took a look at your awsome PvP mmo and found out RoM was a free 2 play mmo, and the first comment was.
"People who like WoW but don't like to pay monthly this game is for them"
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I liked WoW before the game was ruined. The whole sameness thing took it's toll as well. I have never played UO, or shadowbane, or any of the RPGs in the supposed glory days of MMOing. I've played (In varying degrees) RO, FF11, WoW, Tabula Rasa, and RoM. This game interested me because it was unlike anything out there right now, and (from the hyperbolic writings!) looked like an MMORPG free from the terrible constraints that binded all of the others I've played.
But it looks like I was wrong. Darkfall is more of the same, whether it is grinding experience or grinding gold, it's all the same. The combat system looks disappointing at best, and the community of alpha gaming jackoffs and E-thugs does little to impress me either.
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Feint is something the hunters can do in wow if I remember correct, so you were a wow player. Now you are just a cheap wow player that wont support your game by paying your monthly fee. And you dare flame a pvp game like Darkfall.
I just cant fathom why you care? Give an explanation as to why you care if people play this game or not? How will it impact your life? Please. Dont call people fucking idiots because they choose to play a video game. Who is the idiot then?
YOUwould be the idiot because YOU bought the BAD GAME. youve never thought " that person is a fucking idiot" when they packed off a britney spears cd? imagine if the britney put out a new cd that " wasnt pop" it was more for the " hardcore pop" listeners. levels are gone now you just have highly repedative bullshit that takes twice as long cause you have to do twice as many things to get the skills you want by doing THE SAME GOD DAMN THING OVER AND OVER. it's no worse than leveling its the same bull shit just in a new package.
i used to be a huge fan of this game, please just stay the fuck away from it. if you can try it for free i would encourage that by all means, but DONT PAY MONEY FOR THIS. i thought we were going to get a FPS esh genre type game with some rpg elements. what we got was diablo fucking 1.2 with bad graphics.
yeah you can aim your spells and bows, big fucking deal. melee combat is still just a huge joke.
Originally posted by Hotjazz My first thought was "Darn this guy knows alot about PVP. I bet he plays an awsome PvP mmo"
It was hard to figure out what mmo you are playing because 13 of 15 post are you flaming Darkfall and one is a flame towards WAR. Then I found the gem you were hiding....Runes of magic. So, you are flaming Darkfall and WAR for bad pvp while you are betatesting Runes of magic.
I took a look at your awsome PvP mmo and found out RoM was a free 2 play mmo, and the first comment was. "People who like WoW but don't like to pay monthly this game is for them"
Feint is something the hunters can do in wow if I remember correct, so you were a wow player. Now you are just a cheap wow player that wont support your game by paying your monthly fee. And you dare flame a pvp game like Darkfall.
Dude do you believe everything you read? Any of us who havent played the game yet could read through these forums and come up with a list of things players have said to combat every point you have made. Im on the fence until it comes out and I play it, as we all should be.
I just cant fathom why you care? Give an explanation as to why you care if people play this game or not? How will it impact your life? Please. Dont call people fucking idiots because they choose to play a video game. Who is the idiot then?
YOUwould be the idiot because YOU bought the BAD GAME. youve never thought " that person is a fucking idiot" when they packed off a britney spears cd? imagine if the britney put out a new cd that " wasnt pop" it was more for the " hardcore pop" listeners. levels are gone now you just have highly repedative bullshit that takes twice as long cause you have to do twice as many things to get the skills you want by doing THE SAME GOD DAMN THING OVER AND OVER. it's no worse than leveling its the same bull shit just in a new package.
i used to be a huge fan of this game, please just stay the fuck away from it. if you can try it for free i would encourage that by all means, but DONT PAY MONEY FOR THIS. i thought we were going to get a FPS esh genre type game with some rpg elements. what we got was diablo fucking 1.2 with bad graphics.
yeah you can aim your spells and bows, big fucking deal. melee combat is still just a huge joke.
Hmmm....so your annoyance actually lies in the repetitive nature of video game interaction. Be it a keyboard stroke, a knob twist, the press of a button or a mouse click, this is how we play game and most involve one ore more of these repeating actions. Kinda silly to hate on Darkfall for that, don't you think?
Also there are RPG elements. A huge world with dozens of cities and hamlets for guilds to control. The amount of political intrigue along with combat will be a big part of this game. RPG will not be limited to game mechanics but will be about how players actually interact with each other.
You wanted a FPSish genre type game but then diss DF for aiming. While you think melee is a huge joke, the vast majority of beta players love it even though more work needs to be done.
I second that, I am in beta since a few weeks and guess what there is no game on the market which give me same adrenaline boost like Darkfall, even FPS games. Sure game has it faults and need balancing, byt hey show me balance in first year of WoW or any MMO on the market. Only thing they have to change is numbers right now. Hole base of game: design and mechanics are well implemented.
You've never played EVE i see.
Just not seeing enough to pull me to DF from other games. It feels like someone took a Heretic 2/Quake engine and is applying old-school MUD guidelines to it. It will depending on what they do with the game, what purpose and worth you have to doing the high end pvp stuff, to make it lasting. Pvp just for pvp that has as much substance as counterstrike will not last for a long time, and DF doesn't currently have the same appeal that UO had when it was created, nor does it have that caliber of developers working on it (Gariott's ego aside).
the melee really doesnt have any aim to it, there isnt really manual blocking ( you can hit x or something to block.. hmm conan feel familiar?) and you cant parry attacks. wow that melee system is really well thought out. all you do is sprint esh/ swing. i was doing this inbetween players and i couldnt die.
my biggest problem is this game has bad game play, which in my opinion is a very big problem.
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Some things on OP list you could say are just an opinion but some are true...
I enjoyed the game myself but not enough to buy it at launch.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
^MMORPG.com
just gotta reply to what someone said before about how he said that half the mmo community loves darkfall and the rest love wow like games LOL not even 1-2% will ever even touch darkfall
Dark and Light phenomenal?
Because you would have to go back to DnL to find something to compare it to and get an idea of how truly terrible and featureless this game really is.
Do you know why the fanboys say the game is "phenomenal"? Because it lets them run around and grief people and take all their stuff. LOL
THAT"S IT. That's exactly why they think the game is "phenomenal". For no other reason but because they can Full Loot and PvP/grief everyone which BTW is exactly what the game is - a grief fest. They call that FREEDOM
Darkfall is nothing more than a functioning combat simulator. And a very badly done one at that with some of the worste animations ever seen in a MMO and nothing more than a mouse click fest.
/ditto
Fear not Koen83 Poppets is a wise and convincing foe created from the pure evils of unvaporware withdrawls caused by the release of in game information about darkfall. Do not fall for his traps his only goal is to steer you away from the light.
"From the desk of Tasos."
YOU KNOW NOTHING OF TACOS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poppets is evil don't you dare try to think otherwise.
Look what he was created to do look at his post history it is only the one thing the one idea the complete and total destructioon of darkfall through trolling alone.
ROFL
That emote has never been more true!
Funny almost all your points can be said about most established MMOs and one of those games has over 10 million subscribers.
care to explain wich ones sir.. and were they said to be ingame to begin with?...oh you said funny to start your statement.. joke i laughed too
I really cannot wait for this game to release and then crash and burn, so all of these fucking idiots who for some reason, defy logic and cling to hope will finally shut up.
I just cant fathom why you care? Give an explanation as to why you care if people play this game or not? How will it impact your life? Please. Dont call people fucking idiots because they choose to play a video game. Who is the idiot then?
Why do you want this game to crash and burn? do you have a personal vendetta against AV employees? Do you want another indie developer to go out of business and be bought up by giants like SOE? Do you not want people to enjoy a good game? Do you want all these people to lose their jobs? I don't understand your logic besides being a selfish jerk.
Darkfall will likely fade off into nothingness after a short period of time. Without the kind of balance of PvE and PvP that Pre-Tram UO had (i.e. playing housing, crafting, harvesting, dungeons, creating hunters, taming etc.) Darkfall will simply fail.
What the hardcore PvPers fail to recognize is that PvE elements helped to support the PvP elements of Pre-Tram UO (the game that Darkfall wants to model itself after). PvE'ers gave reason for PKers and PvPers to stay active:
- PvE content was hot grounds for PvP,
- PvE'ers gave PKers something to hunt,
- PvE'ers could round up support kill PKers,
- harvesting and crafting was the primary supply of gear needed to PvP; all gear collected was generally for PvP purposes eventually. People liked being able to hold huge stocks of gear so they can restock from their house and get right back into the fight.
- Trading and strong economies helped to offer something beyond combat
- Rare/artifact hunting, item gathering, house design etc. was another addition to developing you characters and establishing them within the community
- Skill development did matter: you put in the time and you can compete
- the list goes on with any other good pre-Tram UO aspect
Darkfall is missing huge components that help support a succesful MMORPG -- if you only cater to one aspect your game will eventually fade away once people get bored of doing the one thing they may have done well. People will be better off just playing a FPS or the like for their PVP fix.
Real pre-tram UO players knew that a fine balance had to be struck for the game to be successful on the whole; Darkfall doesn't have this kind of balance at all.
Why do you want this game to crash and burn?
Where in Nighblades's post does he say he "wants DF to crash and burn"? I think Nightblade was just pointing out the most likely scenario that will result when DF finally goes live. I tend to agree with him. Especially the part about how many idiots will finally shut up.
Dark and Light phenomenal?
Because you would have to go back to DnL to find something to compare it to and get an idea of how truly terrible and featureless this game really is.
Do you know why the fanboys say the game is "phenomenal"? Because it lets them run around and grief people and take all their stuff. LOL
THAT"S IT. That's exactly why they think the game is "phenomenal". For no other reason but because they can Full Loot and PvP/grief everyone which BTW is exactly what the game is - a grief fest. They call that FREEDOM
Darkfall is nothing more than a functioning combat simulator. And a very badly done one at that with some of the worste animations ever seen in a MMO and nothing more than a mouse click fest.
BZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong.
i'm enjoying Darkfall and i think full loot is a Bad Thing. dying is its own penalty, no need to make it worse.
just wish i could get my pre-order to take. they are so bogged down with people throwing money at them. 8)
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Don't worry all these fanboys on here disproving your points will be back on here in a few months crying about the same points.
He is not making points, its Poppets. the account was clearly made just to try and say darkfall is horrible.
Why? I have no idea why someone would just do that.
has everything to do with having nothing. nothing in his life better to do than this pathetic time wasteage. we should pity the fool.
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Don't worry all these fanboys on here disproving your points will be back on here in a few months crying about the same points.
He is not making points, its Poppets. the account was clearly made just to try and say darkfall is horrible.
Why? I have no idea why someone would just do that.
has everything to do with having nothing. nothing in his life better to do than this pathetic time wasteage. we should pity the fool.
Making a forum post must mean that I dedicate every last moment of my "pathetic" life seeking to destroy the heroic tasos and his legion of fans. Your logic is flawless, thus I am vanquished. VANQUISHED.
Honestly people, do you people actually read what you write down before you post? I have a tip for you good people. Read your posts out loud, if you can NOT sound like a tool while doing so; you can hit the post button.
This game had the right idea, but really... Just look at it. The idea of a action MMORPG was fantastic, but really... Come on.
Allow me to ask a very simple question. The depth in combat, where is it? Does blocking attack yield any acceptable results? Can you feint? Do you know what a feint is? What about magic skills, is there anything other than "fire blue missle and self heal"? What about equipment variety, what are the benefits of using light armor? What's the difference between a sword and an axe? Ok, what about crafting, people have stated early crafting is a massive timesink and thus not worth it; can you explain how these "VAPOR TROLLS" are wrong? Should I go on? Are these concerns unfounded?
Can any of you answer this without any of the classic hyperbolic nonsense, or is gaming a broken combat system to be perceived as "depth"?
That last paragraph got to me, I really don't remember anyone I fought in WoW or even WAR which was less than a year ago, besides one person in WAR. But I remember tons of names from DAOC and my short summer in EQ2 right when they opened the PvP servers. That seems to be a really intresting indicator in whether or not a game had an intresting PvP system.
I don't even remember any of my characters in WoW, let alone who they fought. That's how unimpressed I was with that game.
My first thought was "Darn this guy knows alot about PVP. I bet he plays an awsome PvP mmo"
It was hard to figure out what mmo you are playing because 13 of 15 post are you flaming Darkfall and one is a flame towards WAR. Then I found the gem you were hiding....Runes of magic. So, you are flaming Darkfall and WAR for bad pvp while you are betatesting Runes of magic.
I took a look at your awsome PvP mmo and found out RoM was a free 2 play mmo, and the first comment was.
"People who like WoW but don't like to pay monthly this game is for them"
Feint is something the hunters can do in wow if I remember correct, so you were a wow player. Now you are just a cheap wow player that wont support your game by paying your monthly fee. And you dare flame a pvp game like Darkfall.
It was hard to figure out what mmo you are playing because 13 of 15 post are you flaming Darkfall and one is a flame towards WAR. Then I found the gem you were hiding....Runes of magic. So, you are flaming Darkfall and WAR for bad pvp while you are betatesting Runes of magic.
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I play Runes of Magic on the side. So what? How is this relevant? Runes of Magic is by no means a perfect game, but it's free. I have spent no money on it, only a meager amount of time. Cash shop is optional and I have chosen not to use it. Since you care so much about my gaming habits, I barely even play the game after I reached level 30. I ganked back all of the people who ganked me and the game has this awful instagib pvp that mimics WoW in it's early years.
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I took a look at your awsome PvP mmo and found out RoM was a free 2 play mmo, and the first comment was.
"People who like WoW but don't like to pay monthly this game is for them"
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I liked WoW before the game was ruined. The whole sameness thing took it's toll as well. I have never played UO, or shadowbane, or any of the RPGs in the supposed glory days of MMOing. I've played (In varying degrees) RO, FF11, WoW, Tabula Rasa, and RoM. This game interested me because it was unlike anything out there right now, and (from the hyperbolic writings!) looked like an MMORPG free from the terrible constraints that binded all of the others I've played.
But it looks like I was wrong. Darkfall is more of the same, whether it is grinding experience or grinding gold, it's all the same. The combat system looks disappointing at best, and the community of alpha gaming jackoffs and E-thugs does little to impress me either.
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Feint is something the hunters can do in wow if I remember correct, so you were a wow player. Now you are just a cheap wow player that wont support your game by paying your monthly fee. And you dare flame a pvp game like Darkfall.
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Why should people care what trolls think?
YOU would be the idiot because YOU bought the BAD GAME. youve never thought " that person is a fucking idiot" when they packed off a britney spears cd? imagine if the britney put out a new cd that " wasnt pop" it was more for the " hardcore pop" listeners. levels are gone now you just have highly repedative bullshit that takes twice as long cause you have to do twice as many things to get the skills you want by doing THE SAME GOD DAMN THING OVER AND OVER. it's no worse than leveling its the same bull shit just in a new package.
i used to be a huge fan of this game, please just stay the fuck away from it. if you can try it for free i would encourage that by all means, but DONT PAY MONEY FOR THIS. i thought we were going to get a FPS esh genre type game with some rpg elements. what we got was diablo fucking 1.2 with bad graphics.
yeah you can aim your spells and bows, big fucking deal. melee combat is still just a huge joke.
Hehe, that made me smile.
Playing:
waiting for new goodie ^^
Dude do you believe everything you read? Any of us who havent played the game yet could read through these forums and come up with a list of things players have said to combat every point you have made. Im on the fence until it comes out and I play it, as we all should be.
playing: darkfall
waiting: earthrise
YOU would be the idiot because YOU bought the BAD GAME. youve never thought " that person is a fucking idiot" when they packed off a britney spears cd? imagine if the britney put out a new cd that " wasnt pop" it was more for the " hardcore pop" listeners. levels are gone now you just have highly repedative bullshit that takes twice as long cause you have to do twice as many things to get the skills you want by doing THE SAME GOD DAMN THING OVER AND OVER. it's no worse than leveling its the same bull shit just in a new package.
i used to be a huge fan of this game, please just stay the fuck away from it. if you can try it for free i would encourage that by all means, but DONT PAY MONEY FOR THIS. i thought we were going to get a FPS esh genre type game with some rpg elements. what we got was diablo fucking 1.2 with bad graphics.
yeah you can aim your spells and bows, big fucking deal. melee combat is still just a huge joke.
Hmmm....so your annoyance actually lies in the repetitive nature of video game interaction. Be it a keyboard stroke, a knob twist, the press of a button or a mouse click, this is how we play game and most involve one ore more of these repeating actions. Kinda silly to hate on Darkfall for that, don't you think?
Also there are RPG elements. A huge world with dozens of cities and hamlets for guilds to control. The amount of political intrigue along with combat will be a big part of this game. RPG will not be limited to game mechanics but will be about how players actually interact with each other.
You wanted a FPSish genre type game but then diss DF for aiming. While you think melee is a huge joke, the vast majority of beta players love it even though more work needs to be done.
You've never played EVE i see.
Just not seeing enough to pull me to DF from other games. It feels like someone took a Heretic 2/Quake engine and is applying old-school MUD guidelines to it. It will depending on what they do with the game, what purpose and worth you have to doing the high end pvp stuff, to make it lasting. Pvp just for pvp that has as much substance as counterstrike will not last for a long time, and DF doesn't currently have the same appeal that UO had when it was created, nor does it have that caliber of developers working on it (Gariott's ego aside).
the melee really doesnt have any aim to it, there isnt really manual blocking ( you can hit x or something to block.. hmm conan feel familiar?) and you cant parry attacks. wow that melee system is really well thought out. all you do is sprint esh/ swing. i was doing this inbetween players and i couldnt die.
my biggest problem is this game has bad game play, which in my opinion is a very big problem.
yes there is manual blocking
and yes you CAN parry
(block/parry is the same thing, it depends on whether you have a shield or not, which you can't have while using 2h weapons)
how can you possibly be in the beta. there's no way you'd be winning fights without knowing the basics of the game
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I've heard the contrary, can you show a video that shows blocking and parrying that actually works?