This is JUST speculation, but I noticed during my many attempts to create an account 2 days ago that that registration form on the account page is very far from foolproof. There were many times when it said 'Please Enter a state' even though I picked one from the list, many times they said 'Your credit card must be all numbers' once the numbers got converted into asterisks, and so forth. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what caused all these problems. Just a thought.
amazing that there has been 18 posts before ours and nobody else sees this as the obvious reason for the incomplete/incorrect data.
since i'm fairly confident the flamboys aren't quite THAT stupid, this thread is just proof that most of them (at least the ones on this thread) have no sense of ethics or honesty in their argumentation.
just obsessively trying to "win the internetz", using any and all possible (and IMpossible as this thread demonstrates) "ammo" at their disposal.
Actually, quite the opposite. This thread was created on a statement made directly by tasos. It was even tongue in cheek at that. You are the one trying to win what is a completely humorous thread. You are making quite the spectacle of yourself, so please, for the fun of it all, continue.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
This is a load of BS. Period. They f'd up and are trying to let us believe that it's somehow OUR fault.
They tried the "carholder refused the charge, fix your information" crap with me.... .too bad 5 seconds glancing at my account would have showed the idiot that hit "send" on my canned support message that my credit card information was just fine when they charged me for the pre-orders and it only took a quick call to the bank to find out that they never even ATTMEPTED to charge my card for the full amount.
I don't believe its a good business practice to blame the consumer when the error seems to be by them. We may have to put this in the category of "Failed Launch", unfortunately. I was so rooting for this small Indy company, but , alas, I think they might have bitten off a bit more than they can chew.
If the game does well, I think they might have a job for you. They could use someone with that mindset.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Odd that no one is questioning the quote - Tasos has developed such a poor reputation that people expect him to say something like that.
But I'd still like to see the original source of the quote.
Originally posted by dalevi1
Most gamers are pretty attune to online purchases. We put the information in all the time, and rarely does this create a problem. Plus, any respectable website would catch information errors immediately. This isn't supposed to be like voting in Miami-Dade county.
Agree. Online gamers know how to fill out online forms. Suggesting the fault is the customer's is ridiculous (if the quote is accurate)
Do we have the actual link where Tasos says this? Odd that no one is questioning the quote - Tasos has developed such a poor reputation that people expect him to say something like that. But I'd still like to see the original source of the quote. Originally posted by dalevi1
Most gamers are pretty attune to online purchases. We put the information in all the time, and rarely does this create a problem. Plus, any respectable website would catch information errors immediately. This isn't supposed to be like voting in Miami-Dade county.
Agree. Online gamers know how to fill out online forms. Suggesting the fault is the customer's is ridiculous (if the quote is accurate)
The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information. - Tasos
That's right pre-orders. This is your fault. You forgot how to spell your name, hell you probably forgot your name altogether. This doesn't even scratch the surface of you that
1) Forgot your address or how to spell your street name correctly,
2) Failed to get your zip codes correct, or
3) for the love of get your credit card numbers in correct order.
This has nothing to do with our incompetence, or poor choice in choosing/testing a billing provider.
I love this guy like a brother.
did you ever notice he doesn't state a reason why the info is incomplete or incorrect?
and just because he doesn't state a reason you assume (even tho its the most ridiculous conclusion) that he's blaming customers? look up "occam's razor".
its widely known that the whole pre-order mess had a whole slew of glitches in it. even he publicly acknowledge that.
yet you HONESTLY think he is basically saying "our order system is perfect, therefore all this incomplete and incorrect data is our CUSTOMER's fault"?
wow this is either really
stooping to a new low of trolling,
or stooping to new low of stupidity.
I amazes me how you interpret the statement. I think I have gone a long way to defending both the player base, and the doubters in this thread. I haven't insulted anyone, I simply took the statement at face value. So, go ahead and continue to think what you like. That is what this thread is all about.
Also, I love how you stooped. It had to happen somewhere on this thread? Might as well be from someone as mature as an 03.
seeing as how i didn't offer any interpretation of the statement up to this point (when you made the post i am replying to), i'd love to hear your interpretation of my supposed interpretation. i'm sure it will be as intelligent as your original interpretation.
also, please explain to me how i have stooped? it's stooping to try to redirect people into thinking of a much more plausible, simple, non-tin-foil-hat-wearing and rational interpretation?
Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information. - Tasos
That's right pre-orders. This is your fault. You forgot how to spell your name, hell you probably forgot your name altogether. This doesn't even scratch the surface of you that
1) Forgot your address or how to spell your street name correctly,
2) Failed to get your zip codes correct, or
3) for the love of get your credit card numbers in correct order.
This has nothing to do with our incompetence, or poor choice in choosing/testing a billing provider.
I love this guy like a brother.
did you ever notice he doesn't state a reason why the info is incomplete or incorrect?
and just because he doesn't state a reason you assume (even tho its the most ridiculous conclusion) that he's blaming customers? look up "occam's razor".
its widely known that the whole pre-order mess had a whole slew of glitches in it. even he publicly acknowledge that.
yet you HONESTLY think he is basically saying "our order system is perfect, therefore all this incomplete and incorrect data is our CUSTOMER's fault"?
wow this is either really
stooping to a new low of trolling,
or stooping to new low of stupidity.
I amazes me how you interpret the statement. I think I have gone a long way to defending both the player base, and the doubters in this thread. I haven't insulted anyone, I simply took the statement at face value. So, go ahead and continue to think what you like. That is what this thread is all about.
Also, I love how you stooped. It had to happen somewhere on this thread? Might as well be from someone as mature as an 03.
seeing as how i didn't offer any interpretation of the statement up to this point (when you made the post i am replying to), i'd love to hear your interpretation of my supposed interpretation. i'm sure it will be as intelligent as your original interpretation.
also, please explain to me how i have stooped? it's stooping to try to redirect people into thinking of a much more plausible, simple, non-tin-foil-hat-wearing and rational interpretation?
Because you are the one throwing insult, after insult, for no attainable reason. I read the statement. I am sorry if I don't care to give your interpretation a second glance when it was started and followed with the typical rhetoric this game seems to swell in people like you. You have no sense of humor, that is fine, but please continue, because I get a great deal of pleasure in your style of response. Just don't expect me to take a single reply of your seriously when you load them the way you do.
You might be right about one thing. Maybe you are not stooping to a lower level! You might just be standing up straight, flat footed on that level with no ability to jump higher. In any case. Keep yackin'!
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
I don't believe its a good business practice to blame the consumer when the error seems to be by them. We may have to put this in the category of "Failed Launch", unfortunately. I was so rooting for this small Indy company, but , alas, I think they might have bitten off a bit more than they can chew.
If the game does well, I think they might have a job for you. They could use someone with that mindset.
oh my. you really need to pause and think about what you are reading for a second. lol
you're coming up with too much nonsense posts to keep up with. i guess thats a good strategy. you must know rational people don't have time to respond to it all. can't say you don't have tactics. lol
After addressing a couple of early issues the servers have been running very stable for several hours and we have a large number of players in-game right now.
It’s normal to expect more issues to surface in the next couple of days. We postponed our scheduled maintenance of 10am GMT for later until we can gather some more data and address anything that comes up in a patch later tonight.
We’re aware that some areas are experiencing sync issues for some players. This is a high priority issue that we are working to address as soon as possible. We know the cause for it so it shouldn’t take very long. We will keep the servers up while this is being fixed and we will bring them down for a patch later tonight. For now, players can move away from starting areas to improve their experience.
We have processed the problematic accounts that were never charged but received a successful pre-order notification. Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information. We will try this one last time again tomorrow morning European time, and we’ll open up account management later tonight for these accounts to be able to correct their account data and credit information before we reprocess them. If anyone does not want the pre-order to be processed, they should remove their credit card information from their account. After this is concluded we should be able to open up sales for more Darkfall copies.
That’s all for now, we’ll keep you updated with anything new that comes up.
The Darkfall Team
this is bullshit, I called My CC company and nobody has attempted to take any amount out.
When I rechecked my information my computer saves my info and it is exactly what my card says. I make online purchses several times a week never any problem.
Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information. - Tasos
That's right pre-orders. This is your fault. You forgot how to spell your name, hell you probably forgot your name altogether. This doesn't even scratch the surface of you that
1) Forgot your address or how to spell your street name correctly,
2) Failed to get your zip codes correct, or
3) for the love of get your credit card numbers in correct order.
This has nothing to do with our incompetence, or poor choice in choosing/testing a billing provider.
I love this guy like a brother.
did you ever notice he doesn't state a reason why the info is incomplete or incorrect?
and just because he doesn't state a reason you assume (even tho its the most ridiculous conclusion) that he's blaming customers? look up "occam's razor".
its widely known that the whole pre-order mess had a whole slew of glitches in it. even he publicly acknowledge that.
yet you HONESTLY think he is basically saying "our order system is perfect, therefore all this incomplete and incorrect data is our CUSTOMER's fault"?
wow this is either really
stooping to a new low of trolling,
or stooping to new low of stupidity.
I amazes me how you interpret the statement. I think I have gone a long way to defending both the player base, and the doubters in this thread. I haven't insulted anyone, I simply took the statement at face value. So, go ahead and continue to think what you like. That is what this thread is all about.
Also, I love how you stooped. It had to happen somewhere on this thread? Might as well be from someone as mature as an 03.
seeing as how i didn't offer any interpretation of the statement up to this point (when you made the post i am replying to), i'd love to hear your interpretation of my supposed interpretation. i'm sure it will be as intelligent as your original interpretation.
also, please explain to me how i have stooped? it's stooping to try to redirect people into thinking of a much more plausible, simple, non-tin-foil-hat-wearing and rational interpretation?
Because you are the one throwing insult, after insult, for no attainable reason. I read the statement. I am sorry if I don't care to give your interpretation a second glance when it was started and followed with the typical rhetoric this game seems to swell in people like you. You have no sense of humor, that is fine, but please continue, because I get a great deal of pleasure in your style of response. Just don't expect me to take a single reply of your seriously when you load them the way you do.
You might be right about one thing. Maybe you are not stooping to a lower level! You might just be standing up straight, flat footed on that level with no ability to jump higher. In any case. Keep yackin'!
hahahahahahahaha
this is getting more and more amusing by the second.
This is JUST speculation, but I noticed during my many attempts to create an account 2 days ago that that registration form on the account page is very far from foolproof. There were many times when it said 'Please Enter a state' even though I picked one from the list, many times they said 'Your credit card must be all numbers' once the numbers got converted into asterisks, and so forth. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what caused all these problems. Just a thought.
amazing that there has been 18 posts before ours and nobody else sees this as the obvious reason for the incomplete/incorrect data.
since i'm fairly confident the flamboys aren't quite THAT stupid, this thread is just proof that most of them (at least the ones on this thread) have no sense of ethics or honesty in their argumentation.
just obsessively trying to "win the internetz", using any and all possible (and IMpossible as this thread demonstrates) "ammo" at their disposal.
Huh...your looking for ethics and honesty in a internet forum? (shakes head and shuffles off).
Well I logged on the account page to check my info, its all correct, I looked through all of it, its 100% correct. At this point I dont really care if I get in or not. Probably worth it just to sell the account on ebay. Their servers that support 10,000 concurrent users went ape shit at under 2k.
Originally posted by dalevi1 The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
Thank you, just wanted to check.
And the quote can only be interpreted as an ridiculous attempt to push blame back onto the customer. If that is not what they intended then they should have said something different (or had someone else other than Tasos do the talking)
This is JUST speculation, but I noticed during my many attempts to create an account 2 days ago that that registration form on the account page is very far from foolproof. There were many times when it said 'Please Enter a state' even though I picked one from the list, many times they said 'Your credit card must be all numbers' once the numbers got converted into asterisks, and so forth. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what caused all these problems. Just a thought.
amazing that there has been 18 posts before ours and nobody else sees this as the obvious reason for the incomplete/incorrect data.
since i'm fairly confident the flamboys aren't quite THAT stupid, this thread is just proof that most of them (at least the ones on this thread) have no sense of ethics or honesty in their argumentation.
just obsessively trying to "win the internetz", using any and all possible (and IMpossible as this thread demonstrates) "ammo" at their disposal.
Huh...your looking for ethics and honesty in a internet forum? (shakes head and shuffles off).
i don't expect it, therefore i'm not letdown by the lack of it. same approach i have towards new games, which is why i'm never miserable like most people here seem to be.
just pointing out the hypocrisy of the flamboys that do more than simple flaming.
the ones that claim that they have some higher purpose, when things like this prove its generally just senseless flaming. looking for every opportunity to twist someones words into something completely irrational, just cuz it give them more flammables to hurl.
The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
everyone that goes to the DF knows the quote is real.
time after time you are missing the point. you came to a ridiculous conclusion when you read the quote.
You haven't made a point.
maybe you'll get it on the 6th or 7th attempt? are you really TRYING to think about this rationally?
"Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information." - Tasos (actual statement)
"That's Right! It's YOUR Fault!" - Tasos (ridiculous misinterpretation)
hmmmm....could there possibly be any reason OTHER THAN USER ERROR for data to be incomplete or incorrect with all the smooth, flawless and COMPLETED transactions that were done on overloaded servers?
lol, why am bothering to explain such basic logic.
good job of trolling, i got suckered into it for a change
How about it could be the users fault, due to spaming the preorder page and getting mutiple charges on your CC. I am not saying they are totaly inocent but I am sure it is some of the peoples fault
Okay so you take that statement: Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information.
That comes directly from AV. So AV is saying that the reason they do not work is because the information is wrong. Right? So who entered the information? The customer/player/consumer.
What else is their to interpret?
Stuff happened, the launch/billing sucked, so either AV or the player is to blame and according to AV its the player.There is no word twisting at all except by tasos himself in an attempt to blame the players for AV screw-ups/
oh surprise. one of the more ardent flamboys agrees to whatever outlandish twist can further his cause.
so the customer was the only factor in the equation eh?
oh wait. on the next line you admit that the billing system sucked. could that possibly have anything to do with it? gee i wonder!
its a simple statement telling you the cause of the problem. the billing system is fucked up. did he anywhere in that statement try to get out of the fact that it is THEIR billing system therefore they are responsible for it?
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amazing that there has been 18 posts before ours and nobody else sees this as the obvious reason for the incomplete/incorrect data.
since i'm fairly confident the flamboys aren't quite THAT stupid, this thread is just proof that most of them (at least the ones on this thread) have no sense of ethics or honesty in their argumentation.
just obsessively trying to "win the internetz", using any and all possible (and IMpossible as this thread demonstrates) "ammo" at their disposal.
Actually, quite the opposite. This thread was created on a statement made directly by tasos. It was even tongue in cheek at that. You are the one trying to win what is a completely humorous thread. You are making quite the spectacle of yourself, so please, for the fun of it all, continue.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
This is a load of BS. Period. They f'd up and are trying to let us believe that it's somehow OUR fault.
They tried the "carholder refused the charge, fix your information" crap with me.... .too bad 5 seconds glancing at my account would have showed the idiot that hit "send" on my canned support message that my credit card information was just fine when they charged me for the pre-orders and it only took a quick call to the bank to find out that they never even ATTMEPTED to charge my card for the full amount.
If the game does well, I think they might have a job for you. They could use someone with that mindset.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Do we have the actual link where Tasos says this?
Odd that no one is questioning the quote - Tasos has developed such a poor reputation that people expect him to say something like that.
But I'd still like to see the original source of the quote.
Agree. Online gamers know how to fill out online forms. Suggesting the fault is the customer's is ridiculous (if the quote is accurate)
Agree. Online gamers know how to fill out online forms. Suggesting the fault is the customer's is ridiculous (if the quote is accurate)
The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
did you ever notice he doesn't state a reason why the info is incomplete or incorrect?
and just because he doesn't state a reason you assume (even tho its the most ridiculous conclusion) that he's blaming customers? look up "occam's razor".
its widely known that the whole pre-order mess had a whole slew of glitches in it. even he publicly acknowledge that.
yet you HONESTLY think he is basically saying "our order system is perfect, therefore all this incomplete and incorrect data is our CUSTOMER's fault"?
wow this is either really
stooping to a new low of trolling,
or stooping to new low of stupidity.
I amazes me how you interpret the statement. I think I have gone a long way to defending both the player base, and the doubters in this thread. I haven't insulted anyone, I simply took the statement at face value. So, go ahead and continue to think what you like. That is what this thread is all about.
Also, I love how you stooped. It had to happen somewhere on this thread? Might as well be from someone as mature as an 03.
seeing as how i didn't offer any interpretation of the statement up to this point (when you made the post i am replying to), i'd love to hear your interpretation of my supposed interpretation. i'm sure it will be as intelligent as your original interpretation.
also, please explain to me how i have stooped? it's stooping to try to redirect people into thinking of a much more plausible, simple, non-tin-foil-hat-wearing and rational interpretation?
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did you ever notice he doesn't state a reason why the info is incomplete or incorrect?
and just because he doesn't state a reason you assume (even tho its the most ridiculous conclusion) that he's blaming customers? look up "occam's razor".
its widely known that the whole pre-order mess had a whole slew of glitches in it. even he publicly acknowledge that.
yet you HONESTLY think he is basically saying "our order system is perfect, therefore all this incomplete and incorrect data is our CUSTOMER's fault"?
wow this is either really
stooping to a new low of trolling,
or stooping to new low of stupidity.
I amazes me how you interpret the statement. I think I have gone a long way to defending both the player base, and the doubters in this thread. I haven't insulted anyone, I simply took the statement at face value. So, go ahead and continue to think what you like. That is what this thread is all about.
Also, I love how you stooped. It had to happen somewhere on this thread? Might as well be from someone as mature as an 03.
seeing as how i didn't offer any interpretation of the statement up to this point (when you made the post i am replying to), i'd love to hear your interpretation of my supposed interpretation. i'm sure it will be as intelligent as your original interpretation.
also, please explain to me how i have stooped? it's stooping to try to redirect people into thinking of a much more plausible, simple, non-tin-foil-hat-wearing and rational interpretation?
Because you are the one throwing insult, after insult, for no attainable reason. I read the statement. I am sorry if I don't care to give your interpretation a second glance when it was started and followed with the typical rhetoric this game seems to swell in people like you. You have no sense of humor, that is fine, but please continue, because I get a great deal of pleasure in your style of response. Just don't expect me to take a single reply of your seriously when you load them the way you do.
You might be right about one thing. Maybe you are not stooping to a lower level! You might just be standing up straight, flat footed on that level with no ability to jump higher. In any case. Keep yackin'!
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
If the game does well, I think they might have a job for you. They could use someone with that mindset.
oh my. you really need to pause and think about what you are reading for a second. lol
you're coming up with too much nonsense posts to keep up with. i guess thats a good strategy. you must know rational people don't have time to respond to it all. can't say you don't have tactics. lol
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http://forums.darkfallonline.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29
Update 5.49pm GMT
After addressing a couple of early issues the servers have been running very stable for several hours and we have a large number of players in-game right now.
It’s normal to expect more issues to surface in the next couple of days. We postponed our scheduled maintenance of 10am GMT for later until we can gather some more data and address anything that comes up in a patch later tonight.
We’re aware that some areas are experiencing sync issues for some players. This is a high priority issue that we are working to address as soon as possible. We know the cause for it so it shouldn’t take very long. We will keep the servers up while this is being fixed and we will bring them down for a patch later tonight. For now, players can move away from starting areas to improve their experience.
We have processed the problematic accounts that were never charged but received a successful pre-order notification. Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information. We will try this one last time again tomorrow morning European time, and we’ll open up account management later tonight for these accounts to be able to correct their account data and credit information before we reprocess them. If anyone does not want the pre-order to be processed, they should remove their credit card information from their account. After this is concluded we should be able to open up sales for more Darkfall copies.
That’s all for now, we’ll keep you updated with anything new that comes up.
The Darkfall Team
this is bullshit, I called My CC company and nobody has attempted to take any amount out.
When I rechecked my information my computer saves my info and it is exactly what my card says. I make online purchses several times a week never any problem.
did you ever notice he doesn't state a reason why the info is incomplete or incorrect?
and just because he doesn't state a reason you assume (even tho its the most ridiculous conclusion) that he's blaming customers? look up "occam's razor".
its widely known that the whole pre-order mess had a whole slew of glitches in it. even he publicly acknowledge that.
yet you HONESTLY think he is basically saying "our order system is perfect, therefore all this incomplete and incorrect data is our CUSTOMER's fault"?
wow this is either really
stooping to a new low of trolling,
or stooping to new low of stupidity.
I amazes me how you interpret the statement. I think I have gone a long way to defending both the player base, and the doubters in this thread. I haven't insulted anyone, I simply took the statement at face value. So, go ahead and continue to think what you like. That is what this thread is all about.
Also, I love how you stooped. It had to happen somewhere on this thread? Might as well be from someone as mature as an 03.
seeing as how i didn't offer any interpretation of the statement up to this point (when you made the post i am replying to), i'd love to hear your interpretation of my supposed interpretation. i'm sure it will be as intelligent as your original interpretation.
also, please explain to me how i have stooped? it's stooping to try to redirect people into thinking of a much more plausible, simple, non-tin-foil-hat-wearing and rational interpretation?
Because you are the one throwing insult, after insult, for no attainable reason. I read the statement. I am sorry if I don't care to give your interpretation a second glance when it was started and followed with the typical rhetoric this game seems to swell in people like you. You have no sense of humor, that is fine, but please continue, because I get a great deal of pleasure in your style of response. Just don't expect me to take a single reply of your seriously when you load them the way you do.
You might be right about one thing. Maybe you are not stooping to a lower level! You might just be standing up straight, flat footed on that level with no ability to jump higher. In any case. Keep yackin'!
hahahahahahahaha
this is getting more and more amusing by the second.
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amazing that there has been 18 posts before ours and nobody else sees this as the obvious reason for the incomplete/incorrect data.
since i'm fairly confident the flamboys aren't quite THAT stupid, this thread is just proof that most of them (at least the ones on this thread) have no sense of ethics or honesty in their argumentation.
just obsessively trying to "win the internetz", using any and all possible (and IMpossible as this thread demonstrates) "ammo" at their disposal.
Huh...your looking for ethics and honesty in a internet forum? (shakes head and shuffles off).
The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
everyone that goes to the DF knows the quote is real.
time after time you are missing the point. you came to a ridiculous conclusion when you read the quote.
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hahahahahahahaha
this is getting more and more amusing by the second.
It certainly is m8!
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Well I logged on the account page to check my info, its all correct, I looked through all of it, its 100% correct. At this point I dont really care if I get in or not. Probably worth it just to sell the account on ebay. Their servers that support 10,000 concurrent users went ape shit at under 2k.
The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
everyone that goes to the DF knows the quote is real.
time after time you are missing the point. you came to a ridiculous conclusion when you read the quote.
You haven't made a point.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Thank you, just wanted to check.
And the quote can only be interpreted as an ridiculous attempt to push blame back onto the customer. If that is not what they intended then they should have said something different (or had someone else other than Tasos do the talking)
Hey! If I want to sign up as Charles Manson, that's my choice.
It was hell getting his CC# though...
amazing that there has been 18 posts before ours and nobody else sees this as the obvious reason for the incomplete/incorrect data.
since i'm fairly confident the flamboys aren't quite THAT stupid, this thread is just proof that most of them (at least the ones on this thread) have no sense of ethics or honesty in their argumentation.
just obsessively trying to "win the internetz", using any and all possible (and IMpossible as this thread demonstrates) "ammo" at their disposal.
Huh...your looking for ethics and honesty in a internet forum? (shakes head and shuffles off).
i don't expect it, therefore i'm not letdown by the lack of it. same approach i have towards new games, which is why i'm never miserable like most people here seem to be.
just pointing out the hypocrisy of the flamboys that do more than simple flaming.
the ones that claim that they have some higher purpose, when things like this prove its generally just senseless flaming. looking for every opportunity to twist someones words into something completely irrational, just cuz it give them more flammables to hurl.
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The quote is directly from the last update by Stradden. I trust him, so I am assuming it is authentic.
everyone that goes to the DF knows the quote is real.
time after time you are missing the point. you came to a ridiculous conclusion when you read the quote.
You haven't made a point.
maybe you'll get it on the 6th or 7th attempt? are you really TRYING to think about this rationally?
"Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information." - Tasos (actual statement)
"That's Right! It's YOUR Fault!" - Tasos (ridiculous misinterpretation)
hmmmm....could there possibly be any reason OTHER THAN USER ERROR for data to be incomplete or incorrect with all the smooth, flawless and COMPLETED transactions that were done on overloaded servers?
lol, why am bothering to explain such basic logic.
good job of trolling, i got suckered into it for a change
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How about it could be the users fault, due to spaming the preorder page and getting mutiple charges on your CC. I am not saying they are totaly inocent but I am sure it is some of the peoples fault
Okay so you take that statement: Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information.
That comes directly from AV. So AV is saying that the reason they do not work is because the information is wrong. Right? So who entered the information? The customer/player/consumer.
What else is their to interpret?
Stuff happened, the launch/billing sucked, so either AV or the player is to blame and according to AV its the player.There is no word twisting at all except by tasos himself in an attempt to blame the players for AV screw-ups/
oh surprise. one of the more ardent flamboys agrees to whatever outlandish twist can further his cause.
so the customer was the only factor in the equation eh?
oh wait. on the next line you admit that the billing system sucked. could that possibly have anything to do with it? gee i wonder!
its a simple statement telling you the cause of the problem. the billing system is fucked up. did he anywhere in that statement try to get out of the fact that it is THEIR billing system therefore they are responsible for it?
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Tasos is right! It is your fault.
You shouldn't have been trying to buy his product....how dare you!!!!
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Everything born must die. All that is, will come to ruin. This is the essence of Doom. So sayeth the Doomsayer.
hahahahaha