What guilds got the cities: Lod- Well know guild. Got the first city. They were amongst the prospects to get the first. SUN- Tons of guys in beta. Well known guild. Expected to do well. Drunken Beggars- New guild. Well organized. In beta. Winterblades- Well organized. In beta. Well known SB guild. Redemption- Well known SB guild. Societas Demonica- Well known SB guild
Anyone see a pattern here? You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys. Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving. Stop crying for a reroll. Not ever gonna happen. Step your game up.
Oh really. I'm not going to say which one, but one of those guilds was sending out a macro program to new members in beta so they could be ready for launch to do just what they did. And another of those guilds spent the last 24hrs camping a high level mob that was bugging out every 8 seconds after it spawned. Two of those guilds (that I know of) have totally exploited to get their cities. Yes, they were all in beta, and that is exactly why they had hacks/exploits ready and waiting for launch.
What til the PVP really starts and they start using the speed hacks they have ready.
Those guilds aren't building cities because of the 'experience' they had in beta, they are building cities because they had their hacks/exploits all ready because they were in beta.
Yes, this is all true and well documented and discussed in beta... mods DELETED these threads, because it is these guilds that hold the most promis for Darkfall's future and the same guilds that stormed the Public boards about how awsome this game was once the NDA was lifted...!
Darkfall's end-game is about macros, hacks and exploits..! Because Darkfall is 100% about COMBAT!
I was on Vent with a guildmate who was talking about the hacks his roomate was working on... I just knew right then and there Darkfall was going to turn into COD hack-fest where seeing your name #1 was all that mattered.
Aventurine got the fanbase they went after and these are the same people who without hesitation move to another game if their 12 little buddies can brag better in that game.
All those clans were in beta so they kinda knew how it works. All they had to do is group up and go to their favorite camp spot after getting some basic weapons and gear. Then keep farming that monster for gold or items to build up your city. ANd considering those clans got a nice amount of members it shouldnt be that hard to aquire the gold requirement.
I bet half of the clan macroed their resources and maybe also abused abit broken npc AI. But they would still have had a city on first day most likely.
Even with cheating/exploiting I still find it hard to believe that a major accomplishment could be achieved so freaking fast.
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Real easy prediciton coming up... This Shadowbane upgrade will be in the same shape in one year that Shadowbane is now (F2P with three live servers, dominated by gold farmers).
Author of the Amazon kindle book, The Clan and the Crown
Gold farmers + full looting + they use macros = easy targets loaded with gold
Remember UO? Groups of "savages" (wearing nothing but white paint, using only spears) would happily slaughter gold farmers for the gold and gear the farmers were gathering ... they had nothing to lose but a spear (and they had plenty more of those!), and oh so so much to gain. And it was fun.
That people will cheat, exploit, etc etc won't mean it's not a good game. There are people who will do that in every game. What really matters will be whether the game is fun. And to be honest, even assuming the fanbois are talking up things, it still looks well worth trying: after all it's not like WoW is going anywhere just atm. Skill based MMOs are more interesting than class based with levels, because it's more fun PvPing when you don't know what the other person has got going for them.
So several clans have effectively reached the end game in less then 3 days with the servers down over 50% of the time? Yep this game will have a long run before it falls flat on it's face.
Holy crap, so that's the endgame?!? Wow.
The end game is about player rivalries, massive wars between factions.
Saying that building a clan city=endgame finished is like saying an alliance which has claimed sov in eve has nothing left to do and may aswell leave the game.
On this topic, these guilds had knowledge of where to go to get maximum results from beta, they did not have to run around looking for spawns, then when they get to the spawns the spawns are non responsive, so it is even easier.
Well done.
Thinking the hierachy of clans as it is now will remain the same for years is a bit short sighted, and will not happen.
All those clans were in beta so they kinda knew how it works. All they had to do is group up and go to their favorite camp spot after getting some basic weapons and gear. Then keep farming that monster for gold or items to build up your city. ANd considering those clans got a nice amount of members it shouldnt be that hard to aquire the gold requirement.
I bet half of the clan macroed their resources and maybe also abused abit broken npc AI. But they would still have had a city on first day most likely.
Even with cheating/exploiting I still find it hard to believe that a major accomplishment could be achieved so freaking fast.
This is not accomplishment at all to take empty city. Acomplishment is to keep one. If you don't realize that then you will fail at this game.
I'm in one of SB clans. We had 40 in beta, 50 now playing , 80 waiting to join. We don't care about wipe. We will get that city again in no time when you will be still fighting goblins and thinking it's only place to farm gold. If someone takes our city before us we will simply siege it and take it back like many times in SB.
Go back to WoW if you think that you and your boyfriend can have a city only because you want.
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Oh really. I'm not going to say which one, but one of those guilds was sending out a macro program to new members in beta so they could be ready for launch to do just what they did. And another of those guilds spent the last 24hrs camping a high level mob that was bugging out every 8 seconds after it spawned. Two of those guilds (that I know of) have totally exploited to get their cities. Yes, they were all in beta, and that is exactly why they had hacks/exploits ready and waiting for launch.
What til the PVP really starts and they start using the speed hacks they have ready.
Those guilds aren't building cities because of the 'experience' they had in beta, they are building cities because they had their hacks/exploits all ready because they were in beta.
Yes, this is all true and well documented and discussed in beta... mods DELETED these threads, because it is these guilds that hold the most promis for Darkfall's future and the same guilds that stormed the Public boards about how awsome this game was once the NDA was lifted...!
Darkfall's end-game is about macros, hacks and exploits..! Because Darkfall is 100% about COMBAT!
I was on Vent with a guildmate who was talking about the hacks his roomate was working on... I just knew right then and there Darkfall was going to turn into COD hack-fest where seeing your name #1 was all that mattered.
Aventurine got the fanbase they went after and these are the same people who without hesitation move to another game if their 12 little buddies can brag better in that game.
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Even with cheating/exploiting I still find it hard to believe that a major accomplishment could be achieved so freaking fast.
Comedy genius!
Real easy prediciton coming up... This Shadowbane upgrade will be in the same shape in one year that Shadowbane is now (F2P with three live servers, dominated by gold farmers).
Author of the Amazon kindle book, The Clan and the Crown
People, people ... you're forgetting something.
Gold farmers + full looting + they use macros = easy targets loaded with gold
Remember UO? Groups of "savages" (wearing nothing but white paint, using only spears) would happily slaughter gold farmers for the gold and gear the farmers were gathering ... they had nothing to lose but a spear (and they had plenty more of those!), and oh so so much to gain. And it was fun.
That people will cheat, exploit, etc etc won't mean it's not a good game. There are people who will do that in every game. What really matters will be whether the game is fun. And to be honest, even assuming the fanbois are talking up things, it still looks well worth trying: after all it's not like WoW is going anywhere just atm. Skill based MMOs are more interesting than class based with levels, because it's more fun PvPing when you don't know what the other person has got going for them.
Holy crap, so that's the endgame?!? Wow.
The end game is about player rivalries, massive wars between factions.
Saying that building a clan city=endgame finished is like saying an alliance which has claimed sov in eve has nothing left to do and may aswell leave the game.
On this topic, these guilds had knowledge of where to go to get maximum results from beta, they did not have to run around looking for spawns, then when they get to the spawns the spawns are non responsive, so it is even easier.
Well done.
Thinking the hierachy of clans as it is now will remain the same for years is a bit short sighted, and will not happen.
Even with cheating/exploiting I still find it hard to believe that a major accomplishment could be achieved so freaking fast.
This is not accomplishment at all to take empty city. Acomplishment is to keep one. If you don't realize that then you will fail at this game.
I'm in one of SB clans. We had 40 in beta, 50 now playing , 80 waiting to join. We don't care about wipe. We will get that city again in no time when you will be still fighting goblins and thinking it's only place to farm gold. If someone takes our city before us we will simply siege it and take it back like many times in SB.
Go back to WoW if you think that you and your boyfriend can have a city only because you want.